Apple Cider vinegar and Activated Charcoal
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BruinsGal_91 wrote: »I really thought we were done with the ACV threads, but they just keep on coming.
Tons of ads on Pinterest and a few weeks ago I googled "weight loss" and an ACV ad was 1 st and 2nd to pop up.
People find it hard that I'm 50 and just learned about CICO and TDEE because it's out there but honestly this ACV stuff comes up first.
I should do a google search and see what page CICO comes up? Of course I'd be embarrassed if it was on the first page of the search lol.0 -
ACV is fantastic for a lot of things:
If you microwave it, it makes your microwave easy to clean. (So does white - but apple smells better.)
Mix it with olive oil and it makes a lovely furniture cleaner and polish.
Diluted with water, it cured my dog's ringworm after three different prescription products failed. Really! I swear by it as a doggie shampoo rinse.
It helps dandruff too - in humans!
It's a vital ingredients in several tasty marinades.
But I don't think it'll help you lose weight.1 -
Apple cider is disgusting stuff to chug down straight up, not to mention the damage it will do to your teeth. I did the shots for a little while and it put me off of vinegar forever, and no, it did nothing for weight loss.
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I will add this. Any time you drink an 8 oz glass of plain water before meal it will curb over eating/ suppress appetite ( which apple cidar vinegar supposedly does) So my question is.... Is it the vinegar or the plain water? My guess... Plain water. Why not just not go over daily calories and call it a day?1
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WinoGelato wrote: »What can be the harm in trying you ask OP? Activated charcoal is what is provided as an emergency treatment for someone who has been poisoned. It causes the poison to bind to the surface of the charcoal (adsorbtion), rather than being absorbed into the blood stream and metabolic processes. Additionally, and more concerning, it can cause other substances to bind to it, including prescription medications, food nutrients, vitamins, etc. The charcoal stays in your body with those substances bound to it until your body expels it during a bowel movement.
Does that sound like something that you think is a healthy substance to ingest on a regular basis?
If you are reading about the benefits of ACV and activated charcoal "everywhere", you need to find some new reading material and new sources. Whatever site you are looking at, stop visiting that site. These are not substances that will be beneficial for weight loss and it is a travesty that so many people are being deluded into thinking that this woo is something they should consider to "push your weight loss". Why do you think your weight loss needs to be pushed? You are already losing at the most aggressive pace that is recommended, and it is only recommended for people with more than 75 lbs to lose.
^^ +1 to the above. Do not take activated charcoal unless it is necessary to treat acute poisoning.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »What can be the harm in trying you ask OP? Activated charcoal is what is provided as an emergency treatment for someone who has been poisoned. It causes the poison to bind to the surface of the charcoal (adsorbtion), rather than being absorbed into the blood stream and metabolic processes. Additionally, and more concerning, it can cause other substances to bind to it, including prescription medications, food nutrients, vitamins, etc. The charcoal stays in your body with those substances bound to it until your body expels it during a bowel movement.
Does that sound like something that you think is a healthy substance to ingest on a regular basis?
If you are reading about the benefits of ACV and activated charcoal "everywhere", you need to find some new reading material and new sources. Whatever site you are looking at, stop visiting that site. These are not substances that will be beneficial for weight loss and it is a travesty that so many people are being deluded into thinking that this woo is something they should consider to "push your weight loss". Why do you think your weight loss needs to be pushed? You are already losing at the most aggressive pace that is recommended, and it is only recommended for people with more than 75 lbs to lose.
^^ +1 to the above. Do not take activated charcoal unless it is necessary to treat acute poisoning.
I can't believe more people aren't bothered by the inquiry about Activated Charcoal. It is one thing to have yet another ACV Thread, but if people are starting to think that taking something that is used to treat acute poisoning, is a good idea to kick start weight loss, we've passed from Woo That We Make Jokes About into Dangerous Advice.6 -
markrgeary1 wrote: »tasha12004 wrote: »that's what I was thinking as well. I tried to take a shot of that stuff and it was absolutely the most disgusting stuff ever. (apple cider vinegar) But it does taste great mixed with some avacado oil for salad dressing
Well, sure. It's really good as the acid when making collards, too.
I like it on cooked cabbage too, tastes great.
It also makes a great hot bacon dressing for fresh spinach salad. If you burn part of the bacon you can get your charcoal in too.4 -
I don't know what everyone else is talking about, but I love apple cider vinegar, every time I've used it for weight loss it has worked, plus all of thee other benefits. I've actually studied it, I think it couldn't hurt to try. Also you should consult with a Nutritionist about Activated Charcoal, they might have a different opinion than the people who are against using it for weight loss.26
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Activated charcoal binds to toxins (such as drugs and other chemicals) in the gut before they can be absorbed. It's used in cases of acute poisoning. Like if someone overdosed on tablets.
It's used more frequently than gastric lavage (getting your stomach pumped) for overdose etc.
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Sorry op i havent tried it
Vingegar with charcoal would never pass these lips sounds gross1 -
Maxina3777 wrote: »I don't know what everyone else is talking about, but I love apple cider vinegar, every time I've used it for weight loss it has worked, plus all of thee other benefits. I've actually studied it, I think it couldn't hurt to try. Also you should consult with a Nutritionist about Activated Charcoal, they might have a different opinion than the people who are against using it for weight loss.
1) Interesting bump of a necro thread.
2) Please do not encourage people to get medical advice from a nutritionist of all people. Especially where it involves ingesting a potentially dangerous substance such as activated charcoal. Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist and you can get a 'diploma' by taking an online weekend course. And for this reason, people should consult a Registered Dietician for nutritional advice, too, since R.D.'s study nutrition and diet for years at the college level and have a degree and accreditation to show for it.
3) You've actually 'studied' ACV? What does that mean?
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »andrea4736 wrote: »I take activated charcoal for gas, lol. Doesn't do anything for weight loss though.
This! Activated charcoal is great for some gut issues, but it's not going to magically melt fat off your body. Neither will ACV, though it makes a tasty salad dressing.
It can also help mitigate certain poisons. If you're vulnerable to assassination by poisoning.7 -
Activated charcoal is great in my fish tank filter. Seriously not food but great in fish tank4
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stanmann571 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »andrea4736 wrote: »I take activated charcoal for gas, lol. Doesn't do anything for weight loss though.
This! Activated charcoal is great for some gut issues, but it's not going to magically melt fat off your body. Neither will ACV, though it makes a tasty salad dressing.
It can also help mitigate certain poisons. If you're vulnerable to assassination by poisoning.
Aren't we all?
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Activated charcoal is created to have tiny pockets in/over it, which hold onto the toxins from the liver in our bile as it leeks into the "chime" to be excreted. (The process of Living creates toxins in so many ways.) By holding onto these toxins from the bile stream it prevents reabsorption, avoiding reprocessing, repeating the two stage detoxification process for the same toxin molecule. Oxidation, first stage makes fat soluble cell residues into water soluble substances available for elimination through the blood and kidneys. Stage two which uses different enzymes is the one which uses the bile stream elimination path which is where the activated charcoal comes in, (as mentioned above) to hold toxins till they are excreted rather than recycled.
ACV - apple cider vinegar. preferably with the "mother" from the process.
Cider vinegar. This is held to support the acid levels in the stomach. There are many ways the acid is depleted. Those with acid reflux are most prone to lack of acid confusingly. The modern diet does not favour the production of the acid. There is a chemical in cider vinegar which is not in regular vinegars but most vinegars would probably give some relief too. Another of the benefits of cv and probably other vinegars is that it provides elements which enable the bile to be more free running reducing the risk of bile salts creating Gaul stones. Its in the scientific papers, please take a look for yourselves.
Cider vinegar being acid helps to rebalance the digestive biome towards the most favourable microbes needed by our bodies to perform the magical process which is creating particles of foods small enough to pass through a healthy digestive tract. the body is convulsed with all manor of ill health when this barrier is compromised by particles which are too large and cause more damage and in some situations go on to be mistaken for our own cells so the immune system attacks our own cells by mistake as in Hashimotos' thyroiditis which is diagnosed by the high levels of antibodies.
Cider vinegar also contains salicylate, left from the apples which are high/moderately high in the stuff. Salicylate is a chemical produced by plants, naturally occurring to protect them or their fruits/seeds from moulds and mildews. Ain't things complicated. Salicylate is toxic to humans in large amounts. Usually people are unaffected by normal values in foods but people are becoming susceptible to this toxin all be they a minimal percentage.
As to if any or all of this will aid weight loss- it all depends, if ones system is clogged by toxins and/or laid low by low stomach acid or other various digestive issues, it may; when compared with someone being fit and well, then probably not.
An additional consideration - the extended rest period dietary methods. Having 12 and more hours between your last and first meal of the next day. These provide the liver and other glands time to perform the various processes complexly, to the best a body can. To graze round the day (24 hours) strains liver causing it to have to repeat and repeat its processes.
Before you condemn all nutritionists, please look into BANT registration.
I hope everyone achieves good health and a stable weight at which they are content.26 -
Activated charcoal is created to have tiny pockets in/over it, which hold onto the toxins from the liver in our bile as it leeks into the "chime" to be excreted. (The process of Living creates toxins in so many ways.) By holding onto these toxins from the bile stream it prevents reabsorption, avoiding reprocessing, repeating the two stage detoxification process for the same toxin molecule. Oxidation, first stage makes fat soluble cell residues into water soluble substances available for elimination through the blood and kidneys. Stage two which uses different enzymes is the one which uses the bile stream elimination path which is where the activated charcoal comes in, (as mentioned above) to hold toxins till they are excreted rather than recycled.
ACV - apple cider vinegar. preferably with the "mother" from the process.
Cider vinegar. This is held to support the acid levels in the stomach. There are many ways the acid is depleted. Those with acid reflux are most prone to lack of acid confusingly. The modern diet does not favour the production of the acid. There is a chemical in cider vinegar which is not in regular vinegars but most vinegars would probably give some relief too. Another of the benefits of cv and probably other vinegars is that it provides elements which enable the bile to be more free running reducing the risk of bile salts creating Gaul stones. Its in the scientific papers, please take a look for yourselves.
Cider vinegar being acid helps to rebalance the digestive biome towards the most favourable microbes needed by our bodies to perform the magical process which is creating particles of foods small enough to pass through a healthy digestive tract. the body is convulsed with all manor of ill health when this barrier is compromised by particles which are too large and cause more damage and in some situations go on to be mistaken for our own cells so the immune system attacks our own cells by mistake as in Hashimotos' thyroiditis which is diagnosed by the high levels of antibodies.
Cider vinegar also contains salicylate, left from the apples which are high/moderately high in the stuff. Salicylate is a chemical produced by plants, naturally occurring to protect them or their fruits/seeds from moulds and mildews. Ain't things complicated. Salicylate is toxic to humans in large amounts. Usually people are unaffected by normal values in foods but people are becoming susceptible to this toxin all be they a minimal percentage.
As to if any or all of this will aid weight loss- it all depends, if ones system is clogged by toxins and/or laid low by low stomach acid or other various digestive issues, it may; when compared with someone being fit and well, then probably not.
An additional consideration - the extended rest period dietary methods. Having 12 and more hours between your last and first meal of the next day. These provide the liver and other glands time to perform the various processes complexly, to the best a body can. To graze round the day (24 hours) strains liver causing it to have to repeat and repeat its processes.
Before you condemn all nutritionists, please look into BANT registration.
I hope everyone achieves good health and a stable weight at which they are content.
Dismissing the rest of your post, I wanted to comment on the bolded.
First of all, it appears that BANT applies in the U.K only.
Secondly, I didn't say that *all* nutritionists were bogus. I stated:snickerscharlie wrote: »Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist and you can get a 'diploma' by taking an online weekend course. And for this reason, people should consult a Registered Dietician for nutritional advice, too, since R.D.'s study nutrition and diet for years at the college level and have a degree and accreditation to show for it.
My intent was to clarify that since there currently is so much grey area in qualifications (if any) needed in order to fly the "I'm a nutritionist!" flag, people are better off seeking the help of a Registered Dietician in order not to risk getting questionable advice from someone claiming to be a nutritionist.
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stanmann571 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »andrea4736 wrote: »I take activated charcoal for gas, lol. Doesn't do anything for weight loss though.
This! Activated charcoal is great for some gut issues, but it's not going to magically melt fat off your body. Neither will ACV, though it makes a tasty salad dressing.
It can also help mitigate certain poisons. If you're vulnerable to assassination by poisoning.
Judging by the meal ive just been served by family maybe i should grab some3 -
I recently read that taking activated charcoal without medical supervision can be dangerous. They do administer in hospital for drug overdose, etc, but that is a life and death situation. I don't believe doctor's know everything, but I have seen numerous warnings out their about taking charcoal. I do use it in face masks and tooth powder, just decided not to take orally. I read recently that taking apple cider vinegar for weight loss is a little like trying to bail out a flooding boat with a teaspoon. It may help, but not enough to really make it worth it. I think when people drink the morning concoction you see, it is starting their metabolism up in the morning (usually people that don't eat breakfast) , which will help you lose weight, but you won't lose that type of weight consistently as your body adjusts.
Your body doesn't need something in the morning to start the metabolism.4 -
Shawshankcan wrote: »I recently read that taking activated charcoal without medical supervision can be dangerous. They do administer in hospital for drug overdose, etc, but that is a life and death situation. I don't believe doctor's know everything, but I have seen numerous warnings out their about taking charcoal. I do use it in face masks and tooth powder, just decided not to take orally. I read recently that taking apple cider vinegar for weight loss is a little like trying to bail out a flooding boat with a teaspoon. It may help, but not enough to really make it worth it. I think when people drink the morning concoction you see, it is starting their metabolism up in the morning (usually people that don't eat breakfast) , which will help you lose weight, but you won't lose that type of weight consistently as your body adjusts.
Your body doesn't need something in the morning to start the metabolism.
^^^ This. If your metabolism wasn't running 24/7 you'd be dead. 3
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