April 2017 Running Challenge

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  • OSUbuckeye906
    OSUbuckeye906 Posts: 315 Member
    @7lenny7 I'm so sorry to hear that your MIL is not doing well. Thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
  • BeeerRunner
    BeeerRunner Posts: 728 Member
    hesfeld wrote: »
    @BeeerRunner I am doing the 10k. The night run part is the most intriguing part of it to me! I'm in OKC and I hardly ever have a need to go to Texas but this run was a sponsored ad on my Facebook and that's how I found it. I'm trying to figure out where to stay that's near the river and near IKEA haha

    @hesfeld That sounds fun. I see glow runs around here from time to time. I think those would be fun to do some time. I did a 15K trail race at night and I'm doing another this summer down in Glenrose, TX. They have 5K, 15K, and HM options.

    I've only been to that IKEA once because my son had a soccer game nearby. It's ginormous!

    @OSUbuckeye906 Even though you didn't PR, it sounds like you still had a good race and did the right thing by not pushing so hard that you'd get injured again. :smiley:
  • 9voice9
    9voice9 Posts: 693 Member
    I need to get a rain jacket for running in the rain. We've got a lot of rain in the forecast for the rest of this week and I'm pretty tired of getting soaked. Anyone got any recommendations? Can't be too expensive though. Bonus points if I can use PayPal to pay for it.
    Here's what I use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008F0JL3Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    It packs up into its own pocket, so I just throw it into my run bag, leave it out to dry if I use it, and then pack it away again. It's labelled as water-resistant (not waterproof), but that's sufficient for my needs. It's very light, so I've also used it for a windbreaker. BONUS: it's less than $30 (US)!
  • 9voice9
    9voice9 Posts: 693 Member
    What is a good brand of running shoe? Looking in to it, they can be really expensive.
    It's worth it to go find a good running store, and let them fit you for a pair - letting them help you know whether you're a neutral, or a pronator, or whatever will help in the future. You will likely feel more-or-less obligated to purchase a pair, but if they're a really good store, they're at least as interested in growing the running community as in profiting from the sale of one pair of shoes.
  • hanlonsk
    hanlonsk Posts: 762 Member
    Treadmill at hotel was what I did Sunday for 2 miles. Then today i was supposed to switch towns, but 6+ inches of hwavy wet snows said otherwise. So, treadmill again. I made it 4 miles, my goal was 5, but this hotels workout room, although delightfully nice, is like 9million degrees... so I gave up at 4 and went and played snow angel so I could see straight again.

    92.8/100

  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    @greenolivetree Sciatica Pain can have so many different symptoms depending on where it is pinched off. Haven't had a flair up since dropping the Jelly Belly. Amazing what weight loss will do for your overall health.
    Driving vehicles. When I bought my last vehicle I made sure it had 6 way adjustable Buckets to allow for lots of tweaking = comfort.

    @Brumley2005 As so many have said get fitted at a Store that specializes in Running and explain to them that your are just getting into the sport. Quite a few of the really good stores have Learn to Run clinics that are $0.00. I know the Running Room usually has them at all there stores and in bigger centers one of the stores will be the central depository for all the Previous Years Models of shoes at discounted prices. This Running Room has there warehouse sale as they call it, walk into the stock room and browse. @MobyCarp summed it up perfectly
    MobyCarp wrote: »
    Less is more. When you hurt, you need to do less until you no longer hurt. How much is "less" depends on where you are in your running career. // I ran myself into injury on less than 25 miles per week. // Then I compounded the problem by staying in denial about it for 2 or 3 months. // "No pain, no gain" does not apply to running and shin pain. Take a few days off. Walk gently. Pay attention to how the shins feel. If they don't get better, consider seeking medical advice.

    @RespectTheKitty You go girl on those repeats, they can be a struggle but are well worth it.

    @BeeerRunner Yes Ikea is ginormous! If we don't hear from you for a few days should we file a Missing Person's Report ??

    What should have been a 5 hour drive turned into a 7 hour adventure due to bad weather and people who had already changed their winter tires out to summer tires. So by the time I got to my Hotel I was exhausted and was to late for the organized run so called it a REST DAY.
  • iofred
    iofred Posts: 488 Member
    26/04 - 6.5 mile Taper run #6 - Easy pace - They must have forgotten to pay the heating bill over here, as it was not very warm

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    Completed
    11/03 - 10K Run The Solar System (thanks for the tip) - 52:01
    12/03 - TM Half Marathon (plugged in the MK HM route - attempt 1  ) - 1:54:02
    25/03 - TM Half Marathon (plugged in the MK HM route - attempt 2  ) - 1:53:53
    15/04 - TM Easter Bunny support run (plugged in the MK HM route - attempt 2  ) - 1:59:03
    Coming up:
    • 01/05 - Milton Keynes HM
    • 18/06 - Run-Bedford-Run - 10K
    • 02/09 - Bedford HM
    • 24/09 - Windsor HM
  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    @7lenny7 - so sorry your MIL is not doing well.
    @Brumley2005 - agree with @9voice9 - getting fitted properly is important because the wrong/cheap shoes can cause injuries.

    4/1 - 44 miles biking
    4/2 - 40 miles biking
    4/3 - 3.7 miles
    4/4 - 4.2 miles
    4/5 - strength training
    4/6 - 3.4 miles
    4/7 - strength training
    4/8 - 10K Zombies Chunnel run
    4/9 - 28 miles on bike - but like a rest day
    4/10 - 4.5 miles
    4/11 - 4.6 miles
    4/12 - travel day
    4/13 - London - walking
    4/14 - London - walking
    4/15 - 5.2 miles London
    4/16 -- 5 miles London
    4/17 - London walking
    4/18 - 5 miles London
    4/19 - walking Paris and bike tour
    4/20 - 5.2 miles Paris
    4/21 - walking Paris
    4/22 - 5.3 miles Paris
    4/23 - travel day
    4/24 - rest day
    4/25 - 5.0 miles
    4/26 - 4.1 miles


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  • WhatMeRunning
    WhatMeRunning Posts: 3,538 Member
    edited April 2017
    @Brumley2005 - I think the best advice on shoes have been offered. It's not really the brand that matters, it's the ones that fit your feet the best and provide support where you need it based upon your gait. It's all individual. Just because someone has run many thousands of miles in a particular shoe does not mean that shoe can work on another person. The salesperson should look at your current shoes at the wear pattern, and watch you run to help determine the right shoe. Also, look for sales, but never let the price keep you from getting proper shoes. When it comes to equipment, the #1 priority in running is caring for your feet and legs. Shoes are where your legs and feet meet the ground, so it really is the top concern. Even for barefoot runners who choose it is most important to run barefoot than to have some unnatural thing between their feet and the ground.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    4/1- 15.23
    4/2- 3.14
    4/3- 7.07
    4/4- 3.69
    4/5- 9
    3/6- REST
    4/7- 5.12
    4/8- 17.58
    4/9- 4.05
    4/10- 7.13
    4/11- 3.79
    4/12- 9
    4/13- REST
    4/14- 17
    4/15- 5.11
    4/16- 4.06
    4/17- 5.71
    4/18- REST
    4/19- 7.14
    4/20- REST
    4/21- 3.69
    4/22- 15
    4/23- 3.15
    4/24- 8.1
    4/25- 4.6
    4/26- 9

    Total: 167.4

    Monthly Goal: Stay "healthy" and get in good marathon training
    Nominal Mileage goal: 191 miles.

    Today's notes: Today's assignment was 3 miles at E, 4 miles at Tempo and then 2 miles at E. Conditions for running were not ideal. Temp was 25F, which was OK, but there was a 10mph wind with gusts getting up to 25 (according to weather.com), with ice pellets falling from the sky. To top it off, the roads were covered with a glaze of ice so, at times, I felt more like I was skating than running. Anyway, here's a breakdown of the run:

    Miles 1-3: Mile 1 was all uphill and mostly into the wind, ran it in 9:29. Mile 2 was downhill, less wind, but the ice was still there, pace was 9:24. Mile 3, blessedly was net downhill, and I found some dry spots, pace was 9:18. So, I ended up averaging 9:24 for the first 3, warm up miles.

    Miles 4-7: These were the tempo miles, and these were tough. Mile 4, uphill, into the wind, and on the iciest section of the run, was my slowest Tempo split. I ran it in 8:31, still in Tempo pace range, but near the slow end. Mile 5 was uphill again, and again, the ice sucked, but I got some relief from the wind. Pace picked up and I ran it in 8:26. Mile 6 was downhill, but that presented the issue of controlling myself so I didn't crash on the ice. Still, I was "making up time" from my slow mile 4. Mile 6 split pace was 8:21. Mile 7, last Tempo mile was a slight net uphill, with some wind, not bad, and some ice, but not horrible. I clocked my fastest split of the run at 8:19. Average pace for Tempo miles was 8:24, so I was pleased with that.

    Miles 8-9: Not much to talk about, other than I ran them too fast. Mile 8 was 9:11 and Mile 9 was 9:19.

    All in all, a pretty good tempo run or, tempo skate, as it felt like. Rest day tomorrow, and I'll need it!

    2017 Races
    6/16- William A Irvin 5k
    6/17- Grandma's Marathon (Full!)
    8/19- Rampage at the Ridge 5k OCR
    9/23- Ely Marathon (full)
    10/21 Wild Duluth 50k<- yeah, I'm crazy enough to go for it
    11/23- TBD 5k Turkey Trot
  • WhatMeRunning
    WhatMeRunning Posts: 3,538 Member
    edited April 2017
    Congrats @OSUbuckeye906! PR or not, you ran it, post-injury, not in the best of conditions, and finished healthy! That's a great result!!

    I keep telling myself that about my recent HM time too, like I'm trying to convince myself. I hope I am more convincing when I'm telling others as opposed to myself, because it is the truth.
  • garygse
    garygse Posts: 896 Member
    One of those slow run days where I didn't really feel like I got in to the swing of things. Oh well, we'll see what Friday's long run brings.

    03 - 13.37
    04 - 9.59
    05 - 13.39
    06 - 10.75
    07 - 13.36
    10 - 10.73
    11 - 9.27
    12 - 8.16
    13 - 8.89
    14 - 2.33
    15 - 13.14
    18 - 11.37
    19 - 13.51
    20 - 8.89
    21 - 5.46
    24 - 12.95
    25 - 10.46
    26 - 13.52

    Total: 189.14 / 175 miles
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    iofred wrote: »
    26/04 - 6.5 mile Taper run #6 - Easy pace - They must have forgotten to pay the heating bill over here, as it was not very warm

    tell me about it - I got attacked by chunks of ICE on my run last night, ICE!!! It's nearly MAY!!!

    (apparently there's snow on the Mendips.)
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    1/4/17. 6.1m plus walking 4m
    2/4/17 13 mile cycle ride
    3/4/17 rest day - or rather Shag day
    4/4/17 6.4m
    5/4/17 Calf twinge so no run.
    6/4/17 3.3m
    7/4/17 walk to park and gentle run in barefoot shoes
    8/4/17 13.7m lots of walking on the ups and a stop at a pub for some lunch!!
    9/4/17 8.3m a 'recovery' run over hilly terrain. We walked the last couple of miles as quads were v. painful!!
    10/4/17 rest
    11/4/17 morning 1/2 hr walk and same in the afternoon
    12/4/17 2.35m run
    13/4/17 serious migraine. Made it part way down the road to get a mile in
    14/4/17 walking round a military zone - a village forcibly evacuated in 1942 so it could become an American base, the church and eerie empty houses only open a couple of times a year. Scrap tanks, shrapnel, and signs of target practice everywhere.
    15/4/17. 7 miles Walking on the coastal path, Devon. Excellent cream tea!
    16/4/17 7 miles, more coastal path. Fabulous fruit cake. Saw lots of runners.
    17/4/17 4 miles, seeking bluebells in the sun
    18/4/17 4 mile run. A run!! Back to it now.
    19/4/17 2.4mile run - what IS going on with my hamstring???
    20/4/17 2.23mile run
    21/4/17 1.7m run
    22/4/17 too much beer the night before - and there's no run
    23/4/17 too much prosecco and dancing...and there's no run. Forced myself to take a 3 mile walk in the city.
    24/4/17 an IBS attack. This is not good
    25/4/17 still crampy, but a morning mile and a bit, and an evening 4 mile run, in the icy hail, and thunder, and lightning.
    26/4/17 STILL crampy. a gentle morning mile and a bit run

    Planned races -

    7.5.17 HM-ish The Ox Wiltshire.
    30.7.17 HM-ish Dorset Invader
    27.8.17 East Farm Frolic

    yesterday's run was from work, along some old railway tracks. I knew it was supposed to rain, but I wasn’t expecting the chunks of ICE coming at me. And then the thunder. I started to question the wisdom of running alongside steel tracks at that point……

    Made a critical error of judgement, by not putting on a dry shirt when I finished my run, so spent the hour commute home with the heating whacked up, damp and cold. Not advised. Had a very hot shower when I got home but will remember to take a change of clothes next time. And use them!

    Got a busy couple of days with long train journeys and site visits, and it’s just over a week to go until my HM EEEEEEKKKK!!!
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    question for @mobycarp @lporter229 and other marathoners.

    My colleague ran London last Monday, and mentioned that in a big marathon like that, unless you run the line exactly, your marathon measurement is out. So his ACTUAL distance for London was 26.8miles - meaning his time is greater than he'd like.

    What does your own record show?
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    girlinahat wrote: »
    question for @mobycarp @lporter229 and other marathoners.

    My colleague ran London last Monday, and mentioned that in a big marathon like that, unless you run the line exactly, your marathon measurement is out. So his ACTUAL distance for London was 26.8miles - meaning his time is greater than he'd like.

    What does your own record show?

    Haven't run a marathon yet, but yes, in most races, even from 5k on, most of the time your GPS will show a greater distance than the official distance, because you aren't running perfect tangents on the shortest route along the course. Fir instance even on a straight as an arrow out and back on a certified 5 mile course, my GPS showed more than 5 miles and on my first HM, my Garmin showed a distance of 13.2 miles.
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    Stoshew71 wrote: »
    @7lenny7 Thoughts and prayers go out to your family and your MIL.

    I am racing this weekend. Leaving Friday morning to head up to Louisville. I already got approval to take the day off from work.

    Due to a busy Friday and weekend, I am hoping to post the May challenge on Thursday.

    I'll say it again, but I'll say it now too. Good luck this weekend. Oh, and the bolded made me smile....I was actually wondering about that, with your race this weekend.

    Thanks @MNLittleFinn
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @girlinahat your run sounds like mine this morning. Ice falling from the sky sucks.
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    girlinahat wrote: »
    question for @mobycarp @lporter229 and other marathoners.

    My colleague ran London last Monday, and mentioned that in a big marathon like that, unless you run the line exactly, your marathon measurement is out. So his ACTUAL distance for London was 26.8miles - meaning his time is greater than he'd like.

    What does your own record show?

    Haven't run a marathon yet, but yes, in most races, even from 5k on, most of the time your GPS will show a greater distance than the official distance, because you aren't running perfect tangents on the shortest route along the course. Fir instance even on a straight as an arrow out and back on a certified 5 mile course, my GPS showed more than 5 miles and on my first HM, my Garmin showed a distance of 13.2 miles.

    Not only is there the fact of running (or not running) perfect tangents, but GPS technology is not perfect. Your Garmin, strava, mapmyrun, endomundo, ect.. they use the satellite GPS and "bread crumbs". That means multiple samples of your current position are then strung together to build the route you just ran. If each time the sample is taken can be off as much as 3 meters, then that means your overall route could incur big inaccuracies.

    http://www.mio.com/technology-gps-accuracy.htm

    When a course is officially measured, someone is actually rolling a device called a Jones Counter or a calibration wheel for the entire course. And in most cases 2x or 3x for verification. That means sometimes a volunteer will risk their life on a busy street rolling the device on foot or the counter connected to a bike all along the very detailed and documented certified route in the middle of the day. And they are purposefully doing this in perfect tangents. When you finally run the course on race day with "a thousand of your closest friends", police will be there to stop traffic.

    https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2009/03/racing-line-understanding-how-courses.html
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    Stoshew71 wrote: »
    girlinahat wrote: »
    question for @mobycarp @lporter229 and other marathoners.

    My colleague ran London last Monday, and mentioned that in a big marathon like that, unless you run the line exactly, your marathon measurement is out. So his ACTUAL distance for London was 26.8miles - meaning his time is greater than he'd like.

    What does your own record show?

    Haven't run a marathon yet, but yes, in most races, even from 5k on, most of the time your GPS will show a greater distance than the official distance, because you aren't running perfect tangents on the shortest route along the course. Fir instance even on a straight as an arrow out and back on a certified 5 mile course, my GPS showed more than 5 miles and on my first HM, my Garmin showed a distance of 13.2 miles.

    Not only is there the fact of running (or not running) perfect tangents, but GPS technology is not perfect. Your Garmin, strava, mapmyrun, endomundo, ect.. they use the satellite GPS and "bread crumbs". That means multiple samples of your current position are then strung together to build the route you just ran. If each time the sample is taken can be off as much as 3 meters, then that means your overall route could incur big inaccuracies.

    http://www.mio.com/technology-gps-accuracy.htm

    When a course is officially measured, someone is actually rolling a device called a Jones Counter or a calibration wheel for the entire course. And in most cases 2x or 3x for verification. That means sometimes a volunteer will risk their life on a busy street rolling the device on foot or the counter connected to a bike all along the very detailed and documented certified route in the middle of the day. And they are purposefully doing this in perfect tangents. When you finally run the course on race day with "a thousand of your closest friends", police will be there to stop traffic.

    https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2009/03/racing-line-understanding-how-courses.html

    Thanks for adding that in, I knew there was more info I could have given.
  • angmarie28
    angmarie28 Posts: 2,893 Member
    ahhh, I'm getting stir crazy. I haven't ran since Saturday. I have had a horrific side ache for 3 days, I wish it would go away so I could run, ugh. (FYI this side ache is not a cause for concern, its a side effect of a health condition I have that flares up about once every 2 months) hopefully it dies down so I can run either tonight or in the morning.
  • MrsBoney12
    MrsBoney12 Posts: 20 Member
    @WhatMeRunning Thank you so much! I am beginning to find myself able to run further in my comfort zone I noticed on my Monday evening run. That was also a new route, however, which always tends to give me a little pep in my step! Question: What is "HM"?
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @MrsBoney12 HM is a half marathon
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    Today is a "rest the hip" day, so pretty much all walking (or hiking, as Garmin likes to call it). I did jog two quarter-mile segments during today's walk, but the rest was three miles of walking. Luckily the rain stayed away this morning, though now it is starting to cloud up pretty bad and supposed to rain later. Then rain for the next four days, ugh. I did order a rain jacket from Macy's of all places (hey, it was cheap), and knowing the Law of the Universe, once it arrives we will probably have a drought.
  • hesfeld
    hesfeld Posts: 95 Member
    I work a double today so no exercise at all for me. It's an unplanned rest day, but I'm not so sure I'm sad about it. My body could use it. I am sad only because it's a gentle rain today and I'd love to get outside in it!
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    @juliet3455 That's funny because my sciatica was opposite and started after weigh tloss. LOL Before weight loss I had a lot of upper back pain between my shoulder blades and that went away.

    Day 3 of no running for me. My calf isn't hurting but foot is still slightly numb. However, it was storming this morning and will be yuck all day. So maaaaaybe tomorrow morning I'll get to run again. I haven't done any exercise at all really. My right leg felt too weak to even walk yesterday for exercise.

    Little sleep last night too thanks to upset stomach from a poorly timed heavy meal......and still being sick with this cold.....and the bad weather that came through. Our house is fine but neighbors lost siding.
  • WhatMeRunning
    WhatMeRunning Posts: 3,538 Member
    edited April 2017
    Way to tough it out in the crappy weather @iofred, @MNLittleFinn and @girlinahat!

    @Stoshew71 - It would be nice if MFP had any freaking clue about proper sports nutrition! :lol: I always get a laugh when adding in my recovery drink (Gatorade powder and Whey Protein) about the dire warning about the sugar or sodium content in the Gatorade. I mean, what the hell do they expect? It does give me credit for the high protein count in the Whey Protein. I would never have known otherwise.
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    girlinahat wrote: »
    question for @mobycarp @lporter229 and other marathoners.

    My colleague ran London last Monday, and mentioned that in a big marathon like that, unless you run the line exactly, your marathon measurement is out. So his ACTUAL distance for London was 26.8miles - meaning his time is greater than he'd like.

    What does your own record show?

    per Garmin, Boston 2016 came in at 26.39 miles; Boston 2017 at 26.43 miles. I think Buffalo 2015 was also right around 26.4. Of the three, I'm sure I ran the best tangents at Buffalo, and better tangents in Boston 2016 than Boston 2017. At Boston, it is impossible to attempt good tangents for the first few miles, and it remains difficult to achieve perfect tangents through the entire race due to crowding. Well, maybe you'd have a chance if you were seeded into Corral 1 of your wave.

    But there is also random GPS error, which can result in an honest 4800 meters in Lane 1 of a standard track being recorded as over 3 miles. (3 miles is about 4827 meters.) The map picture for that one painted my route covering all lanes of the track, when I know I pretty consistently stayed in Lane 1.

    @Stoshew71 has already provided a more technical explanation of this, including a bit about the fudge factor used in certified race distances. That save me from researching it the hard way. :smile:
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    @Stoshew71 - do they not call that wheel thing a trundle wheel anymore?!!!!

    also. 840g of carbs!!! that's over 3000 calories. What ELSE are you eating???? :)
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