Artificial Sweeteners?
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I use a half teaspoon of Truvia in each of my two coffees in the morning, it does the job of taking the edge of the plain coffee. A little FF milk and my coffee barely impacts my day. You'll have to make your own mind up about adding more artificial sweeteners in to your diet but they are already in so many things we consume you'd have to make a project out of it to get rid of them anyway.0
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JstTheWayIam wrote: »https://youtu.be/0smauGspMm4
Pay close attention for at least the first few minutes of the video...
I tried. I did. I got as far as "the longest study was 18 weeks, and we needed longer-term data." That's a paraphrase. Its also a blatant lie, which is sadly typical of this sort of communication.
OP hasn't checked in. It could be a trolling post. If not, though, I do have 35 years of anecdotes using every commercially available artificial sweetener, and I happy to share them if you can provide more guidance on what sort of information you're looking for. The only thing I'll say I think is true for everyone is that, on their own, they won't get you thin or keep you thin.
P.S. to the poster of this video: If you can identify the chemical formula represented in that diagram without research, I'll watch the rest of it. And also eat my proverbial hat.
Of course food companies are not motivated by their care for you, whether they produce aspartame, sugar, potato chips or organic wheat grass. Its an argument that shouldn't be made unless you are able to produce 100% of your food by yourself.8 -
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Truvia is the absolute best tasting but it's pretty expensive. I use way too much of it lol0
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Some artificial sweeteners are better in liquids, others bake better. Aspartame hands down is best for cold beverages.
I find that Stevia tingles very much like cinnamon so if I am using Stevia I'll often use cinnamon too.
Try a hot Chai tea with a little Stevia and cocoa.0 -
JstTheWayIam wrote: »Simply saying that everyone's got a financial stake does not suddenly mean that soda manufacturers do not have a financial stake in convincing people that artificial sweeteners are not harmful... In fact to the contrary, in only helps to backup my argument...
Also note that all the money Dr Greger makes from his book went to charity and he makes nothing on his website either...
You say that I refused to put up any sort of factual argument, while I present you with a YouTube video that definitely has factual information...
You then claim the data to be cherry picked (which your going to claim no matter what I present you with) and counter with absolutely nothing... Nothing at all...
Then please allow me to counter that non-factual, fearmongering YouTube video with a 93-page PDF summation of actual scientific studies regarding the safety of aspartame: http://seriecientifica.org/sites/default/files/scl_enc_butchko.pdf
In addition, a thread which was started by a biochemist, with evidence-based information included, was linked earlier in the thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p18 -
I like fake sugars. Try different things and eat the ones that taste good to you. Personally, I like Coke Zero, Diet Dr Pepper, and use stevia in my overnight oats and in some other things. Sometimes I'll just cut the sugar in half and replace half, to get a better flavour with less aftertastes.2
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JstTheWayIam wrote: »Simply saying that everyone's got a financial stake does not suddenly mean that soda manufacturers do not have a financial stake in convincing people that artificial sweeteners are not harmful... In fact to the contrary, in only helps to backup my argument...
Also note that all the money Dr Greger makes from his book went to charity and he makes nothing on his website either...
You say that I refused to put up any sort of factual argument, while I present you with a YouTube video that definitely has factual information...
You then claim the data to be cherry picked (which your going to claim no matter what I present you with) and counter with absolutely nothing... Nothing at all...
Then please allow me to counter that non-factual, fearmongering YouTube video with a 93-page PDF summation of actual scientific studies regarding the safety of aspartame: http://seriecientifica.org/sites/default/files/scl_enc_butchko.pdf
In addition, a thread which was started by a biochemist, with evidence-based information included, was linked earlier in the thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
You do realize that serie cientifica is sponsored by the Coca-Cola company right?
But if you want to take their word for it, be my guest...0 -
JstTheWayIam wrote: »JstTheWayIam wrote: »Simply saying that everyone's got a financial stake does not suddenly mean that soda manufacturers do not have a financial stake in convincing people that artificial sweeteners are not harmful... In fact to the contrary, in only helps to backup my argument...
Also note that all the money Dr Greger makes from his book went to charity and he makes nothing on his website either...
You say that I refused to put up any sort of factual argument, while I present you with a YouTube video that definitely has factual information...
You then claim the data to be cherry picked (which your going to claim no matter what I present you with) and counter with absolutely nothing... Nothing at all...
Then please allow me to counter that non-factual, fearmongering YouTube video with a 93-page PDF summation of actual scientific studies regarding the safety of aspartame: http://seriecientifica.org/sites/default/files/scl_enc_butchko.pdf
In addition, a thread which was started by a biochemist, with evidence-based information included, was linked earlier in the thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
You do realize that serie cientifica is sponsored by the Coca-Cola company right?
But if you want to take their word for it, be my guest...
And the biochemist? Guess he's in the pockets of the soft drinks industry too.......9 -
JstTheWayIam wrote: »JstTheWayIam wrote: »Simply saying that everyone's got a financial stake does not suddenly mean that soda manufacturers do not have a financial stake in convincing people that artificial sweeteners are not harmful... In fact to the contrary, in only helps to backup my argument...
Also note that all the money Dr Greger makes from his book went to charity and he makes nothing on his website either...
You say that I refused to put up any sort of factual argument, while I present you with a YouTube video that definitely has factual information...
You then claim the data to be cherry picked (which your going to claim no matter what I present you with) and counter with absolutely nothing... Nothing at all...
Then please allow me to counter that non-factual, fearmongering YouTube video with a 93-page PDF summation of actual scientific studies regarding the safety of aspartame: http://seriecientifica.org/sites/default/files/scl_enc_butchko.pdf
In addition, a thread which was started by a biochemist, with evidence-based information included, was linked earlier in the thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
You do realize that serie cientifica is sponsored by the Coca-Cola company right?
But if you want to take their word for it, be my guest...
Do you understand how studies are funded?
Do you understand that serie cientifica is merely hosting the file and did not conduct the studies themselves?
Do you realize that there are a multitude of studies referenced in that document?
Did you even read the document?15 -
OP I'm not really a fan of any of the artificial sweeteners in my coffee. I think Stevia is probably the best tasting, has a sort of caramel flavour. I just use half to a whole teaspoon of regular old sugar in my coffee which I find plenty sweet enough for me and not too calorific.
I will drink Diet Coke and other cold drinks though now and again.1 -
My coke zero has aspartame in it.. I drink at least 2 cans of that stuff a day, sometimes more. I've lost 200+lbs.. and all of my health markers are great. It helped me by still allowing me to get the taste of a coke, without the calories that I would get if I drank a regular coke. You can pry my coke zero/cherry coke zero from my cold dead hands.9
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I used to use Splenda. It was ok. Used Sugar In The Raw a few times too.
Anymore I use real sugar. I really just don't like the vibe from artificial sugars..... and I'm not just attacking artificial sugars here. I really don't like eating anything that's an artificial substitute, or made fat-free, pre-packaged, etc.
I always try to eat as "whole" as possible, using foods as close to their whole, natural state as possible. 80% of my diet is homemade from scratch - the rest is generally because I'm eating out or had to make financial sacrifices in the food department.1 -
I used to use Splenda. It was ok. Used Sugar In The Raw a few times too.
Anymore I use real sugar. I really just don't like the vibe from artificial sugars..... and I'm not just attacking artificial sugars here. I really don't like eating anything that's an artificial substitute, or made fat-free, pre-packaged, etc.
I always try to eat as "whole" as possible, using foods as close to their whole, natural state as possible. 80% of my diet is homemade from scratch - the rest is generally because I'm eating out or had to make financial sacrifices in the food department.
I heard that. Maruchan ftw.0 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Truvia is the absolute best tasting but it's pretty expensive. I use way too much of it lol
If you have an Aldi available, they also sell a generic version of this for a lot less.
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I use sucralose in cooking if I'm not cooking with yeast. If I'm cooking with yeast, I do feed them sugar.1
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100% of the people who watched that YouTube video will DIE!!!!!
These killer videos should be banned, IMMEDIATELY, as unsafe for public viewing.17 -
JstTheWayIam wrote: »JstTheWayIam wrote: »Simply saying that everyone's got a financial stake does not suddenly mean that soda manufacturers do not have a financial stake in convincing people that artificial sweeteners are not harmful... In fact to the contrary, in only helps to backup my argument...
Also note that all the money Dr Greger makes from his book went to charity and he makes nothing on his website either...
You say that I refused to put up any sort of factual argument, while I present you with a YouTube video that definitely has factual information...
You then claim the data to be cherry picked (which your going to claim no matter what I present you with) and counter with absolutely nothing... Nothing at all...
Then please allow me to counter that non-factual, fearmongering YouTube video with a 93-page PDF summation of actual scientific studies regarding the safety of aspartame: http://seriecientifica.org/sites/default/files/scl_enc_butchko.pdf
In addition, a thread which was started by a biochemist, with evidence-based information included, was linked earlier in the thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
You do realize that serie cientifica is sponsored by the Coca-Cola company right?
But if you want to take their word for it, be my guest...
I can't immediately find any evidence that this is true, but it could be, and should be, and I hope it is. Research is expensive, and rarely has immediate financial returns. If we exclude businesses from funding and conducting research, then there will be almost no research, and we will shut down scientific progress in every field. That is true whether we're talking about foods, drugs, energy, economics...anything. All research in every field has either direct ties to business funding or indirect ties between academic researchers and corporate researchers sharing information. This is normal and good. Its also normal and good to include government policy-makers who keep abreast of research information. Sharing money and knowledge is how we move discovery forward, and if we were to separate researchers from money and policy-makers from research, we'd have to abandon most of what we'd learned in the last 150 years as suspect due to its funding sources, business connections or government connections.10
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