Artificial Sweeteners?
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JstTheWayIam wrote: »To the original poster...
Learn to live without the sweeteners, you don't need them. They're just a crutch, soda and refined sugars are terrible for you whether artificial or not...
Do you really think companies like Coca-Cola give a damn about you... No they don't, diet soda is just a scam to take more of your money as cheaply as they can...
This strikes me as an absurd logic fail.
We can live without any single food - we dont need chocolate, bread, milk, oranges, potatoes, eggs (random examples) - but if we like them and can fit them into our calories (if watching our calories) then no problem
And of course companies like Coca Cola dont give a damn about me- they dont even know me - but then nor do companies who sell chocolate, bread, milk, oranges etc - or non food products for that matter.
Should I avoid wearing glasses because optomitrists are a business and they make a profit and they dont actually care about me individually????
Does that make them a scam????
Bizarre logic.
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nicolepburgess91 wrote: »I like sugar in my coffee. I can barely stomach it plain. But it adds more calories than I'd like to see. I'm looking into artificial sweeteners and I'm finding very conflicting information about its benefits/harmful effects.
I'm not looking for scientific data - but, rather personal experience stories.
Have artificial sweeteners helped you, or hurt you?
I use stevia in y coffee or tea, 1 packet. I've been using it for a long time even before I actually was counting the calories. I did cut out my french vanilla cream as that actually added aloof cal/carbs for me overall. Now I can say after 7 months I don't want it or even like it anymore.0 -
sheermomentum wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Truvia is the absolute best tasting but it's pretty expensive. I use way too much of it lol
If you have an Aldi available, they also sell a generic version of this for a lot less.
Ignoring all the mumbo-jumbo claims above; this is the best information I have read so far. Off to Aldi I go.1 -
nicolepburgess91 wrote: »I like sugar in my coffee. I can barely stomach it plain. But it adds more calories than I'd like to see. I'm looking into artificial sweeteners and I'm finding very conflicting information about its benefits/harmful effects.
I'm not looking for scientific data - but, rather personal experience stories.
Have artificial sweeteners helped you, or hurt you?
Helped me reduce calories, but I prefer Stevia.0 -
JstTheWayIam wrote: »Artificial sweeteners have always made me feel bloated and crappy...
Avoid them at all cost, there terrible for you...
They might be terrible for you, but they are not terrible in general.
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JstTheWayIam wrote: »To the original poster...
Learn to live without the sweeteners, you don't need them. They're just a crutch, soda and refined sugars are terrible for you whether artificial or not...
Do you really think companies like Coca-Cola give a damn about you... No they don't, diet soda is just a scam to take more of your money as cheaply as they can...
The is good old-fashioned fear mongering, and certainly not a fact.
Anybody who sells a product wants your money, and CC is no different.3 -
I personally can't stand artificial sweeteners in my coffee so I find a way to fit the sugar into my daily calorie count. I do like Stevia in things like my oatmeal and tea though. For some reason, coffee just doesn't taste right to me without regular sugar0
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MalkinMagic71 wrote: »My coke zero has aspartame in it.. I drink at least 2 cans of that stuff a day, sometimes more. I've lost 200+lbs.. and all of my health markers are great. It helped me by still allowing me to get the taste of a coke, without the calories that I would get if I drank a regular coke. You can pry my coke zero/cherry coke zero from my cold dead hands.
I've been drinking artificially sweetened beverages since they were first introduced. My grandfather was a diabetic and he stocked his refrigerator with Tab and Fresca (sweetened with saccharin) back in the 60's.
Aspartame was a revelation in good taste compared to that, but I loved the bubbles in soda and enjoyed the Tab and Fresca back then.
I like them all, though Stevia has a bit of an aftertaste and I don't like the cooling affect that erythritol and xylitol seem to have in the mouth.
I really think the debate about artificial sweeteners is all just silly fear mongering, and will continue to use them.
Am I the picture of health? Not entirely. I suffer with several autoimmune illnesses. Funny thing, that.
So did my great-grandmother. She had the very same ones I have.
A diet soda never passed her lips.2 -
Revisit the plain coffee. Hot and freshly brewed, it's actually wonderful. At Starbucks get a black Americana. It's a latte made with water instead of milk.0
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I didn't read the whole thread so I don't know if someone mentioned this:
There has been some interesting research that indicates that regular use of artificial sweeteners disrupts the microbiota and leads to glucose intolerance.
Stevia is a good alternative. There is even flavored liquid stevia: coconut, caramel, chocolate, lemon. They're good in coffee or water.0 -
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I used to use diet drinks many many years ago. Artificial Sweetners are not the greatest for you hence the 'artificial' in the name. I actually noticed changes in my vision after using them consistently. I would highly recommend that you stay away. Honey is a great sweetner. It's a way better alternative and because it's natural your body not only processes it better than sugar or artificial sweetners, it's also harder to convert to fat
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AntoinetteAngus wrote: »I used to use diet drinks many many years ago. Artificial Sweetners are not the greatest for you hence the 'artificial' in the name. I actually noticed changes in my vision after using them consistently. I would highly recommend that you stay away. Honey is a great sweetner. It's a way better alternative and because it's natural your body not only processes it better than sugar or artificial sweetners, it's also harder to convert to fat
Honey is sugar.10 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »I used to use diet drinks many many years ago. Artificial Sweetners are not the greatest for you hence the 'artificial' in the name. I actually noticed changes in my vision after using them consistently. I would highly recommend that you stay away. Honey is a great sweetner. It's a way better alternative and because it's natural your body not only processes it better than sugar or artificial sweetners, it's also harder to convert to fat
What are your thoughts on artificial limbs? Or organs?10 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »I used to use diet drinks many many years ago. Artificial Sweetners are not the greatest for you hence the 'artificial' in the name. I actually noticed changes in my vision after using them consistently. I would highly recommend that you stay away. Honey is a great sweetner. It's a way better alternative and because it's natural your body not only processes it better than sugar or artificial sweetners, it's also harder to convert to fat
You noticed changes in your vision after using artificial sweetness so no one should use them. OK. Do you have any scientifically valid studies to back up your contention that having "artiicial" in the name automatically renders a food "not the greatest"?6 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »I used to use diet drinks many many years ago. Artificial Sweetners are not the greatest for you hence the 'artificial' in the name. I actually noticed changes in my vision after using them consistently. I would highly recommend that you stay away. Honey is a great sweetner. It's a way better alternative and because it's natural your body not only processes it better than sugar or artificial sweetners, it's also harder to convert to fat
You noticed changes in your vision after using artificial sweetness so no one should use them. OK. Do you have any scientifically valid studies to back up your contention that having "artiicial" in the name automatically renders a food "not the greatest"?
Not everyone is interested in "scientifically valid studies to back up your contention." Opinions and personal anecdotes should be just as welcome here as scientific studies. IMO1 -
CynthiasChoice wrote: »AntoinetteAngus wrote: »I used to use diet drinks many many years ago. Artificial Sweetners are not the greatest for you hence the 'artificial' in the name. I actually noticed changes in my vision after using them consistently. I would highly recommend that you stay away. Honey is a great sweetner. It's a way better alternative and because it's natural your body not only processes it better than sugar or artificial sweetners, it's also harder to convert to fat
You noticed changes in your vision after using artificial sweetness so no one should use them. OK. Do you have any scientifically valid studies to back up your contention that having "artiicial" in the name automatically renders a food "not the greatest"?
Not everyone is interested in "scientifically valid studies to back up your contention." Opinions and personal anecdotes should be just as welcome here as scientific studies. IMO
It's not so much the sharing of anecdotes that's the issue. It's imposing your resulting beliefs onto others.10 -
CynthiasChoice wrote: »AntoinetteAngus wrote: »I used to use diet drinks many many years ago. Artificial Sweetners are not the greatest for you hence the 'artificial' in the name. I actually noticed changes in my vision after using them consistently. I would highly recommend that you stay away. Honey is a great sweetner. It's a way better alternative and because it's natural your body not only processes it better than sugar or artificial sweetners, it's also harder to convert to fat
You noticed changes in your vision after using artificial sweetness so no one should use them. OK. Do you have any scientifically valid studies to back up your contention that having "artiicial" in the name automatically renders a food "not the greatest"?
Not everyone is interested in "scientifically valid studies to back up your contention." Opinions and personal anecdotes should be just as welcome here as scientific studies. IMO
Opinions are fine unless they're presented as fact - at which point people will call them out. Saying "Artificial sweeteners are not the greatest for you hence the 'artificial' in the name" is stating something untrue (and ridiculous) as a fact. Opinions don't require proof - as the saying goes, "you're entitled to your own opinions but you're not entitled to your own facts". And the statement above is clearly an opinion (and a mistaken one), because it most certainly is not a fact.
And the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.7 -
CynthiasChoice wrote: »AntoinetteAngus wrote: »I used to use diet drinks many many years ago. Artificial Sweetners are not the greatest for you hence the 'artificial' in the name. I actually noticed changes in my vision after using them consistently. I would highly recommend that you stay away. Honey is a great sweetner. It's a way better alternative and because it's natural your body not only processes it better than sugar or artificial sweetners, it's also harder to convert to fat
You noticed changes in your vision after using artificial sweetness so no one should use them. OK. Do you have any scientifically valid studies to back up your contention that having "artiicial" in the name automatically renders a food "not the greatest"?
Not everyone is interested in "scientifically valid studies to back up your contention." Opinions and personal anecdotes should be just as welcome here as scientific studies. IMO
How is that even remotely reliable or helpful?
I'm allergic to strawberries. It's my personal anecdote that they cause hives. I also don't care for tomatoes. Therefore it's my opinion that red fruits are bad. Thusly, no one should eat them.9
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