Why so much despise for bodybuilders

BHFF

Why the despise for people who want to bodybuild? Shoot there is even a gym (PLANET FITNESS) that pretty much says bodybuilders are NOT welcome in their facilities. Even though there slogan is "NO JUDGMENT ZONE" is that hypocrisy?

livingleanlivingclean

Where? When?

.... I think it's your perception, not reality.

BHFF

livingleanlivingclean wrote: »

Where? When?

.... I think it's your perception, not reality.

It's definitely not my perception. Spend a day in my shoes just on this simple app and you will see. Furthermore my comments about planet fitness stand true and strong. If they are not biased towards bodybuilders then I am not sure what they are.

prattiger65

They have a different business model. YOU are not the customer they are looking for and further, YOU intimidate the customer they do want. So in that respect, you're right, they don't want you in there, I have no problem with that. But it isn't discrimination, it's business. As far as this app goes, when it's you against the world, some self reflection is in order.

livingleanlivingclean

BHFF wrote: »

livingleanlivingclean wrote: »

Where? When?

.... I think it's your perception, not reality.

It's definitely not my perception. Spend a day in my shoes just on this simple app and you will see. Furthermore my comments about planet fitness stand true and strong. If they are not biased towards bodybuilders then I am not sure what they are.

Spending a day in your shoes would be seeing things from your perspective. I've spent plenty of days on the app and not ever felt any despise for bodybuilders

BHFF

prattiger65 wrote: »

They have a different business model. YOU are not the customer they are looking for and further, YOU intimidate the customer they do want. So in that respect, you're right, they don't want you in there, I have no problem with that. But it isn't discrimination, it's business. As far as this app goes, when it's you against the world, some self reflection is in order.

Whoever said it was me against the world?? Furthermore, their slogan is the no judgment zone yet they judge so please explain that bias to me. You can't use the fact that I am not the customer that they want or I intimidate others. Are you insinuating that my appearance in itself is intimidating. Actions are intimidating not appearances. I work out in peace and quiet like everyone else so how am I intimidating?

usmcmp

I'm a competitive bodybuilder. I've never gotten any sort of hate and I don't feel despised. I do think there are lots of bodybuilders who have a crappy attitude and are morally corrupt, those ones get too much attention and make everyone else look bad.

Other than that...

skinnycow1234567

Theres gyms that are just for woman,there a boxing gym in Queens NY that is just for men..
Planet fitness dosnt want bodybuilders,just join another gym.. Never really had a problem with anyone on this app either. If someone is a tool just ignore them

usmcmp

BHFF wrote: »

prattiger65 wrote: »

They have a different business model. YOU are not the customer they are looking for and further, YOU intimidate the customer they do want. So in that respect, you're right, they don't want you in there, I have no problem with that. But it isn't discrimination, it's business. As far as this app goes, when it's you against the world, some self reflection is in order.

Whoever said it was me against the world?? Furthermore, their slogan is the no judgment zone yet they judge so please explain that bias to me. You can't use the fact that I am not the customer that they want or I intimidate others. Are you insinuating that my appearance in itself is intimidating. Actions are intimidating not appearances. I work out in peace and quiet like everyone else so how am I intimidating?

The original intention behind "No judgement zone" was that the other gym goers aren't going to judge you. It's a solid business model to get the average Joe in since they are the ones worried that super fit people are going to judge them at the gym. I don't feel threatened or unwanted when I travel and have to use one.

L1zardQueen

It's your perception. Really.

BHFF

skinnycow1234567 wrote: »

Theres gyms that are just for woman,there a boxing gym in Queens NY that is just for men..
Planet fitness dosnt want bodybuilders,just join another gym.. Never really had a problem with anyone on this app either. If someone is a tool just ignore them

I'm not saying I don't ignore them, I'm not even insinuating that I am extremely upset. I posted a question that was all I did. From my perspective, from the comments And messages I have received on this app there is a bias towards myself and bodybuilders in general.

sardelsa

My gym is the best. Everyone is welcome.

Well, except for the centipedes, yeeuck.. they need to stay out!!

I really should start putting a sign up....

ninerbuff

BHFF wrote: »

Why the despise for people who want to bodybuild? Shoot there is even a gym (PLANET FITNESS) that pretty much says bodybuilders are NOT welcome in their facilities. Even though there slogan is "NO JUDGMENT ZONE" is that hypocrisy?

I've been on both sides so I believe I can give a pretty neutral view.
I don't think it's despising, but actual curiosity as to why some bodybuilders go to the extent that they do to attain a type of physique. Especially with competitive bodybuilders who use stacks of PED's to attain it. Let's face it, the average competitor stands out and looks beyond normal, so it can easily make people feel uncomfortable. And if they are a strong bodybuilder and hoisting around some serious poundages, people will gawk or be amazed. So competitive bodybuilders draw attention to themselves without even saying a word.
Most of the bodybuilders I've met are cool and funny, but of course there are going to be some that are very narcissistic and believe that the world revolves around them. And they act that way in the gym. They aren't hard to spot. Especially when they show outright disdain having to wait for equipment or weights.
As for Planet Fitness, I agree on the "no judgement zone". To me it's false advertising, but any establishment has the right to cater to the type of people they want in their place. Honestly, I think their ads are hilarious.
All in all, if people worry so much about how they appeared to others, they may have to change how when, where or the time they workout to avoid it. IMO, I could give a rat's *kitten* about what people think about me, but I'll always be cordial to them.

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SLLRunner

BHFF wrote: »

Why the despise for people who want to bodybuild? Shoot there is even a gym (PLANET FITNESS) that pretty much says bodybuilders are NOT welcome in their facilities. Even though there slogan is "NO JUDGMENT ZONE" is that hypocrisy?

Oh, I love bodybuilders. They are my eye candy at the gym.....and the entire gym loves them.

IVMay

I'll just leave this here:





Nothing wrong with bodybuilding although some people do take it a little too far. But hey that's up to them. The only ones I lack respect for are those 'carpet carriers' who walk around as if their latissimus dorsai need their own postcode; when their 'v-taper' (or lack thereof) is not in proportion to biceps and pectorials which seems to be a monday-sunday type exercise.

One other thing with 'bodybuilders' is lack of rear deltoid development. So I think there's a perception that the whole narcissistic focus on 'guns n chest' takes priority over achieving an actual proportioned look which gives an illusion of size. To me a lot of so called 'bodybuilders' are just juiceheads without any knowledge what the hell they're doing. I have the utmost respect for those who treat it like a science and art project to actually 'sculpt' their body to the fullest and leanest extent but some of these people are just.... plain - strange.

Respect for those who do it for self improvement and development to help their lives.

comptonelizabeth

I certainly don't see any bias against body builders on this app. Quite the opposite,in fact- the weight gaining forum was changed to weight gaining and body building; just one example.
The comment about oestrogen was insulting though.

VintageFeline

Meh, I'm indifferent, it's not an aesthetic I'm particularly fond of but I can appreciate the work that goes into it. I do sometimes wonder though what it's like not to be able to cross your arms cos pecs and guns (generic you).

IVMay

Robbo_79 wrote: »

I cant say ive ever felt any despise on here amongst members, in the whole its a very supportive place, and i've never had any derogatory comments.
Some small minded people, when they see you have muscle, immediately assume you do steroids, those people are the ones that dont realise it takes years if hard work in the gym and eating right, purely because they dont do it themselves.

@IVMay - its quite amusing how you spout off about bodybuilders traps and delts and their lack of this and that - judging by the look of you, you are a crossfitter or cardio monkey, thats fine, being muscular is not everyones fitness goal, some just life to stay lean and fit and healthy, thats absolutely fine, everyone is different, but i dont think you show any class or earn any right to criticise people that do spend their life dedicated to building a better body.

It's an observation based on what I've seen in the gym and disproportional look. I agree that it's not everybody's goal and everybody is different. I also think that people think that a lot of bodybuilders don't actually 'bodybuild' by just focusing entirely on arms and chest. But hey - I believe that stereotype is there for a reason and there's no smoke without fire given peoples experiences (not just mine).

Either way if you actually read what I wrote: I am very supportive and have great respect for bodybuilders who are serious about their craft and treat it like an art experiment of sculpting aesthetically pleasing physiques.

Please don't tell me what right I have and do not have to have an opinion. Bodybuilding is a subjective issue. And as for my right to critique - it's just as valid as yours. Just like people critique Dorian Yates' 1997 [edit: win, sorry] to Nasser and Columbo's 1981 win with gyno in his pectorials when Danny Padilla was considered far superior - or possibly 1980's ludicrous decision in Sydney.
I do also keep up to date with current trends like Phil "narrow" Heath and Kai Greene who seems to have given up on everything but the Arnold Classic. Dallas McCarver is coming in ok but recently had that spout with Shawn Ray over his gut. So yeah - I think I am quite 'aware' with that particular sport given that I was into it 10 years ago and considerably different than I am now. So thanks for judging my opinion as invalid

Believe me - I do have some form of basis for my opinions they're not just out of thin air.

You are entitled to your opinion about whatever aspect of bodybuilding. I am entitled to mine. The rest is: obvious is obvious. Thanks for the response though - but I do recommend rereading my original post and general admiration for it.

As for commenting on my 'cardio monkey' physique. OK. I presume that's a pejorative term and you wonder why there's so many petty type playground comments thrown around by different camps of these exercise related parties? You are as always entitled to your opinion. I'm lucky to have two arms, two legs and at least half a brain and grateful that I still have my life and health mostly ahead of me - thus far. Everything else is a bonus.

PS - hope you're enjoying your Friday