Why so much despise for bodybuilders
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crooked_left_hook wrote: »For the same reason there are body builders and competitive athletes who think those that exercise casually and don't get overly obsessed with their diet are lazy, or automatically assume that everyone that is overweight is out of shape. I actually had someone on this site tell me that person who runs marathons and ultra-marathons but happens to be overweight doesn't take their sport seriously.
Personally I don't like how bodybuilders look, and I prefer guys that are thinner rather than bulky. The sight of veins popping out all over the place totally skeeves me out and they feel really gross! For myself, I like enough fat on my bones to keep my curves. To each their own
And for nurses that vascularity is a sight for sore eyes. It's all a difference in personal preferences. I don't equate my personal preferences for male (or female) physique to equal hatred or distain for those that don't fit into it. I do, however, find that even the best looking people become ugly when their attitude and ego are regularly sucking the life out of the room.7 -
I don't know if people actually hate bodybuilders, especially on MFP, but people do feel pretty free to hate on their bodies, make rude comments like "ew, too many muscles" in a way they wouldn't dare talk about other people. I think it's a combination of basic discomfort with seeing an extreme body type, but also a lot of judgement about anyone who very clearly puts so much time and work into aesthetics.
A lot of people get behind the idea that fitness should be about longevity, quality of life, etc. and that it's morally inferior or something to exercise for the purpose of changing your body shape. I definitely see that tension on MFP- people get pretty judgey. I am not into bodybuilding but personally find vanity and competition super motivating.
I don't know anything about Planet Fitness, but most gyms definitely protect their business model and culture. People who don't fit in will feel unwelcome. Not quite discrimination, more like tribalism.
I think that the people who most despise PF have never actually set foot in one, it is just a target of convenience because something offended them about their commercials.
I had never been in one before until a few months ago when my gym was acquired by PF. I resisted going and tried out 3-4 other local gyms before I gave it a try, and in reality, it is not that different than other gyms. The people look about the same as they do in your average neighborhood rec center, there are varying ages and levels of fitness.
There is no bouncer at the door turning bodybuilders away, Mr. Olympia could come in and workout without any issues as long as he followed the basic rules, which are nowhere near as restrictive as people dramatically claim they are.
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Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't know if people actually hate bodybuilders, especially on MFP, but people do feel pretty free to hate on their bodies, make rude comments like "ew, too many muscles" in a way they wouldn't dare talk about other people. I think it's a combination of basic discomfort with seeing an extreme body type, but also a lot of judgement about anyone who very clearly puts so much time and work into aesthetics.
A lot of people get behind the idea that fitness should be about longevity, quality of life, etc. and that it's morally inferior or something to exercise for the purpose of changing your body shape. I definitely see that tension on MFP- people get pretty judgey. I am not into bodybuilding but personally find vanity and competition super motivating.
I don't know anything about Planet Fitness, but most gyms definitely protect their business model and culture. People who don't fit in will feel unwelcome. Not quite discrimination, more like tribalism.
I think that the people who most despise PF have never actually set foot in one, it is just a target of convenience because something offended them about their commercials.
I had never been in one before until a few months ago when my gym was acquired by PF. I resisted going and tried out 3-4 other local gyms before I gave it a try, and in reality, it is not that different than other gyms. The people look about the same as they do in your average neighborhood rec center, there are varying ages and levels of fitness.
There is no bouncer at the door turning bodybuilders away, Mr. Olympia could come in and workout without any issues as long as he followed the basic rules, which are nowhere near as restrictive as people dramatically claim they are.
I have been in one. I wouldn't want to train there- it's not my vibe.
BEING SAID:
it's a great 'starter' gym- or a great second gym (actually it's effing brilliant for a second gym membership if that's what you need).
I 100% disagree with the marketing- and I think if I don't like someone's marketing choice- I have a right to have that opinion- and not spend my money there. Hell I've boycotted products for less. (I refuse to eat at mcdonalds b/c corporate HQ lobbies with people for anti handgun laws)- so personal discrimination against someone's life choices is kind of wack. I don't have to have stepped foot in it to fundamentally be opposed to the gym and not want to spend my money there.3 -
How do I say this; Bodybuilding is something some people aspire to, many do not.
Like many other things including tattoos, many people like them, good for them, for me most of tattoos leave me scratching my head at why someone in their right mind would do that, but it is their body so that is on them. I do not want a tattoo, so I am not going to get one, at the same time I am probably not going to get into chat groups about tattoos.
Well MFP concentrates on fitness, and within fitness, some people see bodybuilders and say, yeah that is not me, and are going to avoid many of them. Some of them are also going to discredit any advice from bodybuilders under fear of going down that road. (Kind of like women that lift weights, stop looking like women. Completely false, but many people still believe it.) Good or Bad we all have preconceptions, and we all make decisions (sometime unconsciously) on those preconceptions.
Planet Fitness it trying to create a cheap gym that attracts marginal fitness people. Meaning the vast majority of their members will sign up, and then never go, but they are still paying. And while some will be there regularly they are not normally huge bodybuilders, so the occasional fitness people can walk in and not be too intimidated, they can still feel like they fit in among people of a similar fitness level. Hence why memberships are so cheap that people will keep them and pay for them yet seldom go. As compared to Crossfit where the gyms cost way more, and therefore most members use it, or end the memberships. (I mean an argument could be made for why are there Women Only fitness clubs, because some women do not like working out around or in front of men. It is a demographic, whether we like it or not.)2 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't know if people actually hate bodybuilders, especially on MFP, but people do feel pretty free to hate on their bodies, make rude comments like "ew, too many muscles" in a way they wouldn't dare talk about other people. I think it's a combination of basic discomfort with seeing an extreme body type, but also a lot of judgement about anyone who very clearly puts so much time and work into aesthetics.
A lot of people get behind the idea that fitness should be about longevity, quality of life, etc. and that it's morally inferior or something to exercise for the purpose of changing your body shape. I definitely see that tension on MFP- people get pretty judgey. I am not into bodybuilding but personally find vanity and competition super motivating.
I don't know anything about Planet Fitness, but most gyms definitely protect their business model and culture. People who don't fit in will feel unwelcome. Not quite discrimination, more like tribalism.
I think that the people who most despise PF have never actually set foot in one, it is just a target of convenience because something offended them about their commercials.
I had never been in one before until a few months ago when my gym was acquired by PF. I resisted going and tried out 3-4 other local gyms before I gave it a try, and in reality, it is not that different than other gyms. The people look about the same as they do in your average neighborhood rec center, there are varying ages and levels of fitness.
There is no bouncer at the door turning bodybuilders away, Mr. Olympia could come in and workout without any issues as long as he followed the basic rules, which are nowhere near as restrictive as people dramatically claim they are.
I have been in one. I wouldn't want to train there- it's not my vibe.
BEING SAID:
it's a great 'starter' gym- or a great second gym (actually it's effing brilliant for a second gym membership if that's what you need).
I 100% disagree with the marketing- and I think if I don't like someone's marketing choice- I have a right to have that opinion- and not spend my money there. Hell I've boycotted products for less. (I refuse to eat at mcdonalds b/c corporate HQ lobbies with people for anti handgun laws)- so personal discrimination against someone's life choices is kind of wack. I don't have to have stepped foot in it to fundamentally be opposed to the gym and not want to spend my money there.
If your opposition is purely one based on a dislike of their anti-lunkhead marketing, then you reasonably wouldn't need to set foot in one to validate that dislike. If your opposition is based upon other people's opinions that they somehow treat bodybuilders differently or otherwise create a hostile environment for them, I don't think you could formulate a rational opinion about PF until you actually worked out there.
PF isn't necessarily my "vibe" in a lot of respects, but it does have enough to justify spending $10 a month, including 24 hr availability, a convenient location, respectful members, and a clean environment. I have my grimy work gym (where I spend half the time reracking weights or trying not to touch the filthy walls while showering) to fill the gaps that PF has in terms of equipment.0 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't know if people actually hate bodybuilders, especially on MFP, but people do feel pretty free to hate on their bodies, make rude comments like "ew, too many muscles" in a way they wouldn't dare talk about other people. I think it's a combination of basic discomfort with seeing an extreme body type, but also a lot of judgement about anyone who very clearly puts so much time and work into aesthetics.
A lot of people get behind the idea that fitness should be about longevity, quality of life, etc. and that it's morally inferior or something to exercise for the purpose of changing your body shape. I definitely see that tension on MFP- people get pretty judgey. I am not into bodybuilding but personally find vanity and competition super motivating.
I don't know anything about Planet Fitness, but most gyms definitely protect their business model and culture. People who don't fit in will feel unwelcome. Not quite discrimination, more like tribalism.
I think that the people who most despise PF have never actually set foot in one, it is just a target of convenience because something offended them about their commercials.
I had never been in one before until a few months ago when my gym was acquired by PF. I resisted going and tried out 3-4 other local gyms before I gave it a try, and in reality, it is not that different than other gyms. The people look about the same as they do in your average neighborhood rec center, there are varying ages and levels of fitness.
There is no bouncer at the door turning bodybuilders away, Mr. Olympia could come in and workout without any issues as long as he followed the basic rules, which are nowhere near as restrictive as people dramatically claim they are.
I have been in one. I wouldn't want to train there- it's not my vibe.
BEING SAID:
it's a great 'starter' gym- or a great second gym (actually it's effing brilliant for a second gym membership if that's what you need).
I 100% disagree with the marketing- and I think if I don't like someone's marketing choice- I have a right to have that opinion- and not spend my money there. Hell I've boycotted products for less. (I refuse to eat at mcdonalds b/c corporate HQ lobbies with people for anti handgun laws)- so personal discrimination against someone's life choices is kind of wack. I don't have to have stepped foot in it to fundamentally be opposed to the gym and not want to spend my money there.
Perfectly put.0 -
No-one will read this but I was on the phone with a planet fitness employee inquiring about a membership to which he told me. Before we go any further this isn't a gym for muscle heads and people that slam weights. There is biased at the gym and it stereotypes body builders as lunkylumps with no manors. Not perception this is how it is...they lost my business but I gently put down weights, wipe equipment, and rerack...yhe only reason they don't want body builders because of the way we look and the PERCEIVED behaviors we exhibit0
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Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »No-one will read this but I was on the phone with a planet fitness employee inquiring about a membership to which he told me. Before we go any further this isn't a gym for muscle heads and people that slam weights. There is biased at the gym and it stereotypes body builders as lunkylumps with no manors. Not perception this is how it is...they lost my business but I gently put down weights, wipe equipment, and rerack...yhe only reason they don't want body builders because of the way we look and the PERCEIVED behaviors we exhibit
I read your post. That sucks. But it probably isn't the "norm." I don't think of bodybuilders in any negative way. The only thing that bothers me is when people lifting weights have to yell and slam down the weights. It's almost like they are hoping for attention. Grunting and breathing hard is one thing (I do that when I take a Zumba class, LOL) But yelling loud enough for the entire gym to take notice and then practically dropping the weight from hip level is just ridiculous.
Yeah, the slamming I never understand but the breathing during some hard work is understandable. I don't agree with everyone despising bodybuilders but planet fitness found a way to market their business by exploiting a group and it's not even bodybuilders they escorted a lady from their gym because people complained she was too fit and intimidating while she was on a treadmill.
I don't get it.
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@BHFF where is this you tube channel you speak of?0
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A lot people see bodybuilders as narcissistic, ego driven, self-important morons.
It's doesn't help when there is a semi-built looking late 20s moron in the gym making loud noises, using bad form, but still looks above average due to his stack. So many guys on gear and they don't even compete. I don't get it?1 -
Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »No-one will read this but I was on the phone with a planet fitness employee inquiring about a membership to which he told me. Before we go any further this isn't a gym for muscle heads and people that slam weights. There is biased at the gym and it stereotypes body builders as lunkylumps with no manors. Not perception this is how it is...they lost my business but I gently put down weights, wipe equipment, and rerack...yhe only reason they don't want body builders because of the way we look and the PERCEIVED behaviors we exhibit
I read your post. That sucks. But it probably isn't the "norm." I don't think of bodybuilders in any negative way. The only thing that bothers me is when people lifting weights have to yell and slam down the weights. It's almost like they are hoping for attention. Grunting and breathing hard is one thing (I do that when I take a Zumba class, LOL) But yelling loud enough for the entire gym to take notice and then practically dropping the weight from hip level is just ridiculous.
Yeah, the slamming I never understand but the breathing during some hard work is understandable. I don't agree with everyone despising bodybuilders but planet fitness found a way to market their business by exploiting a group and it's not even bodybuilders they escorted a lady from their gym because people complained she was too fit and intimidating while she was on a treadmill.
I don't get it.
is that true? that seems so unlikely.0 -
jessiferrrb wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »No-one will read this but I was on the phone with a planet fitness employee inquiring about a membership to which he told me. Before we go any further this isn't a gym for muscle heads and people that slam weights. There is biased at the gym and it stereotypes body builders as lunkylumps with no manors. Not perception this is how it is...they lost my business but I gently put down weights, wipe equipment, and rerack...yhe only reason they don't want body builders because of the way we look and the PERCEIVED behaviors we exhibit
I read your post. That sucks. But it probably isn't the "norm." I don't think of bodybuilders in any negative way. The only thing that bothers me is when people lifting weights have to yell and slam down the weights. It's almost like they are hoping for attention. Grunting and breathing hard is one thing (I do that when I take a Zumba class, LOL) But yelling loud enough for the entire gym to take notice and then practically dropping the weight from hip level is just ridiculous.
Yeah, the slamming I never understand but the breathing during some hard work is understandable. I don't agree with everyone despising bodybuilders but planet fitness found a way to market their business by exploiting a group and it's not even bodybuilders they escorted a lady from their gym because people complained she was too fit and intimidating while she was on a treadmill.
I don't get it.
is that true? that seems so unlikely.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/03/too_fit_for_planet_fitness_woman_says_staff_said_her_toned_body_intimidated_others.html0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »No-one will read this but I was on the phone with a planet fitness employee inquiring about a membership to which he told me. Before we go any further this isn't a gym for muscle heads and people that slam weights. There is biased at the gym and it stereotypes body builders as lunkylumps with no manors. Not perception this is how it is...they lost my business but I gently put down weights, wipe equipment, and rerack...yhe only reason they don't want body builders because of the way we look and the PERCEIVED behaviors we exhibit
I read your post. That sucks. But it probably isn't the "norm." I don't think of bodybuilders in any negative way. The only thing that bothers me is when people lifting weights have to yell and slam down the weights. It's almost like they are hoping for attention. Grunting and breathing hard is one thing (I do that when I take a Zumba class, LOL) But yelling loud enough for the entire gym to take notice and then practically dropping the weight from hip level is just ridiculous.
Yeah, the slamming I never understand but the breathing during some hard work is understandable. I don't agree with everyone despising bodybuilders but planet fitness found a way to market their business by exploiting a group and it's not even bodybuilders they escorted a lady from their gym because people complained she was too fit and intimidating while she was on a treadmill.
I don't get it.
is that true? that seems so unlikely.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/03/too_fit_for_planet_fitness_woman_says_staff_said_her_toned_body_intimidated_others.html
And PF's response, that I didn't see in the article was that the top was not in compliance with their dress code.0 -
dudebro200 wrote: »A lot people see bodybuilders as narcissistic, ego driven, self-important morons.
It's doesn't help when there is a semi-built looking late 20s moron in the gym making loud noises, using bad form, but still looks above average due to his stack. So many guys on gear and they don't even compete. I don't get it?
how do you know he's on gear?
you watch him inject in the bathroom?
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jessiferrrb wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »No-one will read this but I was on the phone with a planet fitness employee inquiring about a membership to which he told me. Before we go any further this isn't a gym for muscle heads and people that slam weights. There is biased at the gym and it stereotypes body builders as lunkylumps with no manors. Not perception this is how it is...they lost my business but I gently put down weights, wipe equipment, and rerack...yhe only reason they don't want body builders because of the way we look and the PERCEIVED behaviors we exhibit
I read your post. That sucks. But it probably isn't the "norm." I don't think of bodybuilders in any negative way. The only thing that bothers me is when people lifting weights have to yell and slam down the weights. It's almost like they are hoping for attention. Grunting and breathing hard is one thing (I do that when I take a Zumba class, LOL) But yelling loud enough for the entire gym to take notice and then practically dropping the weight from hip level is just ridiculous.
Yeah, the slamming I never understand but the breathing during some hard work is understandable. I don't agree with everyone despising bodybuilders but planet fitness found a way to market their business by exploiting a group and it's not even bodybuilders they escorted a lady from their gym because people complained she was too fit and intimidating while she was on a treadmill.
I don't get it.
is that true? that seems so unlikely.
It is. Let me find a source though since this is the internets0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »No-one will read this but I was on the phone with a planet fitness employee inquiring about a membership to which he told me. Before we go any further this isn't a gym for muscle heads and people that slam weights. There is biased at the gym and it stereotypes body builders as lunkylumps with no manors. Not perception this is how it is...they lost my business but I gently put down weights, wipe equipment, and rerack...yhe only reason they don't want body builders because of the way we look and the PERCEIVED behaviors we exhibit
I read your post. That sucks. But it probably isn't the "norm." I don't think of bodybuilders in any negative way. The only thing that bothers me is when people lifting weights have to yell and slam down the weights. It's almost like they are hoping for attention. Grunting and breathing hard is one thing (I do that when I take a Zumba class, LOL) But yelling loud enough for the entire gym to take notice and then practically dropping the weight from hip level is just ridiculous.
Yeah, the slamming I never understand but the breathing during some hard work is understandable. I don't agree with everyone despising bodybuilders but planet fitness found a way to market their business by exploiting a group and it's not even bodybuilders they escorted a lady from their gym because people complained she was too fit and intimidating while she was on a treadmill.
I don't get it.
is that true? that seems so unlikely.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/03/too_fit_for_planet_fitness_woman_says_staff_said_her_toned_body_intimidated_others.html
And PF's response, that I didn't see in the article was that the top was not in compliance with their dress code.
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stanmann571 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »No-one will read this but I was on the phone with a planet fitness employee inquiring about a membership to which he told me. Before we go any further this isn't a gym for muscle heads and people that slam weights. There is biased at the gym and it stereotypes body builders as lunkylumps with no manors. Not perception this is how it is...they lost my business but I gently put down weights, wipe equipment, and rerack...yhe only reason they don't want body builders because of the way we look and the PERCEIVED behaviors we exhibit
I read your post. That sucks. But it probably isn't the "norm." I don't think of bodybuilders in any negative way. The only thing that bothers me is when people lifting weights have to yell and slam down the weights. It's almost like they are hoping for attention. Grunting and breathing hard is one thing (I do that when I take a Zumba class, LOL) But yelling loud enough for the entire gym to take notice and then practically dropping the weight from hip level is just ridiculous.
Yeah, the slamming I never understand but the breathing during some hard work is understandable. I don't agree with everyone despising bodybuilders but planet fitness found a way to market their business by exploiting a group and it's not even bodybuilders they escorted a lady from their gym because people complained she was too fit and intimidating while she was on a treadmill.
I don't get it.
is that true? that seems so unlikely.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/03/too_fit_for_planet_fitness_woman_says_staff_said_her_toned_body_intimidated_others.html
And PF's response, that I didn't see in the article was that the top was not in compliance with their dress code.
damn, i would be super pissed.0 -
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stanmann571 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »No-one will read this but I was on the phone with a planet fitness employee inquiring about a membership to which he told me. Before we go any further this isn't a gym for muscle heads and people that slam weights. There is biased at the gym and it stereotypes body builders as lunkylumps with no manors. Not perception this is how it is...they lost my business but I gently put down weights, wipe equipment, and rerack...yhe only reason they don't want body builders because of the way we look and the PERCEIVED behaviors we exhibit
I read your post. That sucks. But it probably isn't the "norm." I don't think of bodybuilders in any negative way. The only thing that bothers me is when people lifting weights have to yell and slam down the weights. It's almost like they are hoping for attention. Grunting and breathing hard is one thing (I do that when I take a Zumba class, LOL) But yelling loud enough for the entire gym to take notice and then practically dropping the weight from hip level is just ridiculous.
Yeah, the slamming I never understand but the breathing during some hard work is understandable. I don't agree with everyone despising bodybuilders but planet fitness found a way to market their business by exploiting a group and it's not even bodybuilders they escorted a lady from their gym because people complained she was too fit and intimidating while she was on a treadmill.
I don't get it.
is that true? that seems so unlikely.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/03/too_fit_for_planet_fitness_woman_says_staff_said_her_toned_body_intimidated_others.html
And PF's response, that I didn't see in the article was that the top was not in compliance with their dress code.
I once got mildly reprimanded at a gym (not PF) for wearing a sleeveless vest which was apparently against the (unpublished) dress code. When I asked if they were going to have a word with the three ladies nearby on treadmills also wearing sleeveless vests I got the answer.....
"No - because women don't sweat."
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NO WAY!!!!! Another reason I would get banished from PF- I wear tank tops and sweat in a very unlady-like fashion. Like I need to mop up a puddle to avoid creating a slip-and-fall hazard.stanmann571 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »Kevoofthehoradrim wrote: »
And PF's response, that I didn't see in the article was that the top was not in compliance with their dress code.
I once got mildly reprimanded at a gym (not PF) for wearing a sleeveless vest which was apparently against the (unpublished) dress code. When I asked if they were going to have a word with the three ladies nearby on treadmills also wearing sleeveless vests I got the answer.....
"No - because women don't sweat."
Snort!!2
https://youtu.be/8r94KRdcg5A
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