The Many benefits of one meal a day!!
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Elijah Muhammad was much more than a Minister. And whether or not He had education according to your standards, the proof is in the pudding. Get out of here with your negativity.
This board is about making a positive life change. Elijah Muhammad talked about one meal a day in the 1930s, and now as "new meadows" posted, other doctors are verifying that one meal a day is in fact the best for your health.
Ay yah. People are such energy vampires. You try so hard to suck away the positive energy and motivation floating around. Shame on you.-5 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I started eating one meal a day a few days ago. I tell you all it takes is a MADE UP MIND. I'm already down 12 pounds and it hasn't even been a full week yet. I'm more energetic! I just passed my mid term with flying colors! It's such a healthy lifestyle change, and I found out about it from The Honorable Elijah Muhammad in his book called "How to eat to live"!
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You should look up Dr. Fung. There is actually a TON of very reliable research about how the body benefits from having a break from digestion. Reguardless of how it enables a person to stick to a calorie deficit. A body in fasted state reduces insulin. Dr. Fung prescribes intermittent fasting to his obese patients with type 2 diabetes and kidney failure. Many of them are cured of type 2 diabetes and off all meds fairly quickly.
Brad Pilon's Eat Stop Eat book also shares the research on fasting.
Btw, I didn't read the entire thread, but I noticed a bunch of comments about OMAD being "science light." Go read up on the research that has been done on the body in the fasted state. The benefits are many and backed by reliable science. I started with watching interviews with Dr. Fung and also Brad Pilon on YouTube. Next time someone called it "science light" you can point them to some websites with the references that prove otherwise :-D
losing weight from being a caloric deficit has helped people get off meds and reverse their diabetes. its not curable though. it can come back if you regain the weight.if you have kidney failure its not usually curable ,you can get dialysis and hope it goes into a type of remission, or get a transplant.(my mother in law had failing kidneys,the dialysis didnt work and she didnt get a transplant-she has been gone over 20 years)
You should just go check out Dr. Fung, his story, and the research on PubMed.com
Currently the medical community treats Diabetes (type 1) with insulin because that's the problem, too little insulin. We also treat type 2 diabetes with insulin because it's assumed that the problem is the same (because of the way we test for it) However Dr. Fung noticed that his patients only gained weight and needed more and more insulin to keep their bodies functioning. He eventually reasoned that perhaps the problem with type 2 diabetes is different than with type one. Perhaps the body is producing too MUCH insulin. Perhaps the body has become resistant or "deaf" to the insulin and so when we give the person with type 2 diabetes more and more insulin it works for a time before the body becomes resistant to it again. Perhaps we need to teach the body to be sensitive to insulin again. Perhaps the person with type 2 diabetes needs less insulin instead of more. (again, this is a paraphrase, go listen to the guy with 9yrs of medical school tell you about what he did, please don't take my word for it. He was very skeptical at first.) exercise lowers insulin levels. Turns out letting your body be in a Fasted state also lowers insulin levels.
Yes, people get off their meds with weight loss all the time. This is different. This isn't about a caloric deficit. This is about what is going on in the body chemically and hormonally when the digestive system is given a rest. When most people do intermittent fasting they actually don't eat at a caloric deficit. Many of Dr. Fungs patients eat at maintenance calories. They just eat in a 6-8hr window. Maintenance calories. But with an extended rest from having food to digest. You can eat maintenance calories from 9a-5p and still give the body an overnight break from 5p-9a the next day. No caloric deficit. No more kidney disease. No more type 2 diabetes. No more obesity.
Again, you should do the research yourself instead of taking my word for it. Dr. Fung is an MD who specializes in kidney disease. He was skeptical. He now cures most of his patients of type 2 and kidney disease. Without caloric deficit. Change of diet? Absolutely. But the research lies in what the hormones of the body do when the body is without food. It's fascinating!
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Elijah Muhammad was much more than a Minister. And whether or not He had education according to your standards, the proof is in the pudding. Get out of here with your negativity.
This board is about making a positive life change. Elijah Muhammad talked about one meal a day in the 1930s, and now as "new meadows" posted, other doctors are verifying that one meal a day is in fact the best for your health.
Ay yah. People are such energy vampires. You try so hard to suck away the positive energy and motivation floating around. Shame on you.
the thing is you put this on a public forum. so I as well as anyone else can comment.as for dr fung if she means jason fung the nephrologist he deals with kidney problems.that would be like me going to a podiatrist and asking them for advice on weight loss.4 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Elijah Muhammad was much more than a Minister. And whether or not He had education according to your standards, the proof is in the pudding. Get out of here with your negativity.
This board is about making a positive life change. Elijah Muhammad talked about one meal a day in the 1930s, and now as "new meadows" posted, other doctors are verifying that one meal a day is in fact the best for your health.
Ay yah. People are such energy vampires. You try so hard to suck away the positive energy and motivation floating around. Shame on you.
the thing is you put this on a public forum. so I as well as anyone else can comment.as for dr fung if she means jason fung the nephrologist he deals with kidney problems.that would be like me going to a podiatrist and asking them for advice on weight loss.
Yep! That's the Dr. Fung I'm referring to! He does deal with kidney problems! (As I stated in my above posts) And most (but not all) of his patients have kidney problems because of their type 2 diabetes. He really desires to treat the whole patient. So he went back to school and became specialized in treating the whole system of problems instead of just the kidney disease. He didn't want to put a bandaid on the problem so he went to the root of it and added on the education and training necessary to do so
Did you know that in his 9yrs of training to be an MD he only received 4hrs of education about what food does in the body? That's one of the things he changed. He went and learned a bunch of stuff he didn't previously know so he could better treat his patients with kidney problems. He no longer just prescribes them a pill but gives them the tools to be better permanently and without medication! Woohoo! 4 -
What I said sounds science-light is the idea that eating frequently "wears out" your stomach. Not anything about intermittent fasting. Eating does not wear out your stomach.I started eating one meal a day a few days ago. I tell you all it takes is a MADE UP MIND. I'm already down 12 pounds and it hasn't even been a full week yet. I'm more energetic! I just passed my mid term with flying colors! It's such a healthy lifestyle change, and I found out about it from The Honorable Elijah Muhammad in his book called "How to eat to live"!
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You should look up Dr. Fung. There is actually a TON of very reliable research about how the body benefits from having a break from digestion. Reguardless of how it enables a person to stick to a calorie deficit. A body in fasted state reduces insulin and increases your bodies sensitivity to it thereby reversing insulin resistance. Dr. Fung prescribes intermittent fasting to his obese patients with type 2 diabetes and kidney failure. Many of them are cured of type 2 diabetes and off all meds fairly quickly.
Brad Pilon's Eat Stop Eat book also shares the research on fasting. The whole book is basically a publicized version of his thesis.
Go read up on the research that has been done on the body in the fasted state. The benefits are many and backed by reliable science. I started with watching interviews with Dr. Fung and also Brad Pilon on YouTube. Next time someone calls it "science light" you can point them to some websites with the references that prove otherwise :-D
Even just a quick search with a discerning eye on pubmed.com can provide lots of studies illustrating the benefits.
Happy researching!
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What I said sounds science-light is the idea that eating frequently "wears out" your stomach. Not anything about intermittent fasting. Eating does not wear out your stomach.I started eating one meal a day a few days ago. I tell you all it takes is a MADE UP MIND. I'm already down 12 pounds and it hasn't even been a full week yet. I'm more energetic! I just passed my mid term with flying colors! It's such a healthy lifestyle change, and I found out about it from The Honorable Elijah Muhammad in his book called "How to eat to live"!
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You should look up Dr. Fung. There is actually a TON of very reliable research about how the body benefits from having a break from digestion. Reguardless of how it enables a person to stick to a calorie deficit. A body in fasted state reduces insulin and increases your bodies sensitivity to it thereby reversing insulin resistance. Dr. Fung prescribes intermittent fasting to his obese patients with type 2 diabetes and kidney failure. Many of them are cured of type 2 diabetes and off all meds fairly quickly.
Brad Pilon's Eat Stop Eat book also shares the research on fasting. The whole book is basically a publicized version of his thesis.
Go read up on the research that has been done on the body in the fasted state. The benefits are many and backed by reliable science. I started with watching interviews with Dr. Fung and also Brad Pilon on YouTube. Next time someone calls it "science light" you can point them to some websites with the references that prove otherwise :-D
Even just a quick search with a discerning eye on pubmed.com can provide lots of studies illustrating the benefits.
Happy researching!
Ah, yes. I would agree that the literal concept of eating "wearing out" the stomach does sound science light. I think I read/interpreted wrong. Oops!
Let me see if Ican figure out why I read the comment the way I did.
I think perhaps I was thinking that since most of the researched benefits of IF come from letting the digestive system be empty and rest that in a round about way eating would "wear out" the stomach. But only in the sense that research is showing that there are benefits from letting the system have a rest. ? I was making connections I shouldn't have made.
Does my thought process on that make any sense?
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Elijah Muhammad was much more than a Minister. And whether or not He had education according to your standards, the proof is in the pudding. Get out of here with your negativity.
This board is about making a positive life change. Elijah Muhammad talked about one meal a day in the 1930s, and now as "new meadows" posted, other doctors are verifying that one meal a day is in fact the best for your health.
Ay yah. People are such energy vampires. You try so hard to suck away the positive energy and motivation floating around. Shame on you.
the thing is you put this on a public forum. so I as well as anyone else can comment.as for dr fung if she means jason fung the nephrologist he deals with kidney problems.that would be like me going to a podiatrist and asking them for advice on weight loss.
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What I said sounds science-light is the idea that eating frequently "wears out" your stomach. Not anything about intermittent fasting. Eating does not wear out your stomach.I started eating one meal a day a few days ago. I tell you all it takes is a MADE UP MIND. I'm already down 12 pounds and it hasn't even been a full week yet. I'm more energetic! I just passed my mid term with flying colors! It's such a healthy lifestyle change, and I found out about it from The Honorable Elijah Muhammad in his book called "How to eat to live"!
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You should look up Dr. Fung. There is actually a TON of very reliable research about how the body benefits from having a break from digestion. Reguardless of how it enables a person to stick to a calorie deficit. A body in fasted state reduces insulin and increases your bodies sensitivity to it thereby reversing insulin resistance. Dr. Fung prescribes intermittent fasting to his obese patients with type 2 diabetes and kidney failure. Many of them are cured of type 2 diabetes and off all meds fairly quickly.
Brad Pilon's Eat Stop Eat book also shares the research on fasting. The whole book is basically a publicized version of his thesis.
Go read up on the research that has been done on the body in the fasted state. The benefits are many and backed by reliable science. I started with watching interviews with Dr. Fung and also Brad Pilon on YouTube. Next time someone calls it "science light" you can point them to some websites with the references that prove otherwise :-D
Even just a quick search with a discerning eye on pubmed.com can provide lots of studies illustrating the benefits.
Happy researching!
Also, this may be weird but please forgive me. I just re-read my post. That last paragraph where I mention that someone (you) calls it "science light" wasn't supposed to be in there! I felt it was too direct and "attacking" and back handed in a way so I removed it, because that's just not my gig. I specifically remember taking it out because I didn't like how it sounded when I re-read it.
I've had this happen on MFP before where things I type and then delete before hitting "post reply" end up in the post anyway. Before it's just been typos and this time it was a direct quote from a human I don't know and it came across snarky. Snarky is NOT my thing. I will try and edit it out. (I've had horrible luck with this function as well)
I'm really very sorry if you felt attacked or belittled because of that. :-( ugh.0 -
Earl, I hear ya. Different strokes for different folks. But if you do a little bit of research the lining of the stomach gets severely worn out by eating so many meals a day. It causes a lot of health problems. So eating one meal a day is not only beneficial for losing weight. It benefits you overall.
Actually, I HEALED the lining of my stomach by switching to 5 meals a day. Too much food in one meal was contributing to erosion of the stomach lining and anemia from the bleeding.
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If the stomach truly "wears" out from consistent eating, shouldn't animals be dying who eat consistently? Like cows for instance.
We're still animals. We just happen to have more intelligence than others, but our bodies pretty much work the same way it did THOUSANDS of years ago. All that changed was HOW we eat.
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Earl, I hear ya. Different strokes for different folks. But if you do a little bit of research the lining of the stomach gets severely worn out by eating so many meals a day. It causes a lot of health problems. So eating one meal a day is not only beneficial for losing weight. It benefits you overall.
Actually, I HEALED the lining of my stomach by switching to 5 meals a day. Too much food in one meal was contributing to erosion of the stomach lining and anemia from the bleeding.
That's AWESOME that you healed your stomach! The human body is just amazing. I think it's really incredible that for some people eating 5 meals a day HEALS them and for others eating that often keeps their insulin levels too high so an intermittent fasting schedule works for their body. It's so awesome (yet frustrating at times) that there's no blanket "fix all" approach!If the stomach truly "wears" out from consistent eating, shouldn't animals be dying who eat consistently? Like cows for instance.
We're still animals. We just happen to have more intelligence than others, but our bodies pretty much work the same way it did THOUSANDS of years ago. All that changed was HOW we eat.
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I like where you're going with this. did you know that cows have 4 stomachs? I don't know the anatomy of other animals well enough to suggest one that proves where you were going, otherwise I would!! But cows eat alllll the time and actually regurgitate some of their food (it's called "cud") and chew it and digest it a second time before it passes onto the other stomachs. I think you're absolutely right that if cows tried to eat as much as they do with our digestive system they would be dying!!! But they're a bit out of our league what with the 4 stomachs and second pass at chewing their food and all 
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I don't think I could take in 2700-3000 calories per day in one meal..1
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I started eating one meal a day a few days ago. I tell you all it takes is a MADE UP MIND. I'm already down 12 pounds and it hasn't even been a full week yet. I'm more energetic! I just passed my mid term with flying colors! It's such a healthy lifestyle change, and I found out about it from The Honorable Elijah Muhammad in his book called "How to eat to live"!
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Elijah Muhammad was a minister,.he had no degree in science,he wasnt a dietitian,he had no credentials. being a minister doesnt make you an expert on ways to eat or to give diet advice.anyone can write a diet book now adays and someone out there will follow the advice in it. doesnt make it reputable. you are losing weight quickly because you have a bigger deficit than what is healthy.
I remember coming across his book some years ago. He said one meal a day is the good, 1 meal every 2 days will help you live to be a 100, 1 meal every 3 days and you will never get sick. That's some dangerous advice there. It's best to stick to his religious writings as this is what he specialized at. As a side note, he had an average lifespan and died of heart disease.
As for eating one meal a day, that's okay if you can consume enough calories in one meal. 1000 calories is NOT enough for most people so you may need to increase that for your own health.6 -
I can't do the one meal a day thing. I am hypoglycemic and start to feel shaky, get headaches and feel nauseated if I go more than 5 hours without eating (except overnight of course). I tend to space my meals out where I know I'll be hungry and have found that I have less issues that way.
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Well don't hold your breath on the updates. Seems the OP closed their account. Sad. I was waiting to hear how week 2 was progressing. Any one else who practices IF - that's great! I tried and failed (headaches and moodiness don't work for me), but if it works for you and you are happy with the results nothing wrong with it. Have a great day everyone!5
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I couldnt do OMAD either. I went from 3 meals and 2 snacks to 2 meals and 1-2 snacks a day.1
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I don't think I could take in 2700-3000 calories per day in one meal..
Agreed, at 3800 calories per day (what I am currently consuming), that would be one hell of a meal.... No thanks.
Glad the OP found something they believe to help them. I can't imagine eating such a small amount of food, whether one meal or 5.
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I do IF but I could never do OMAD @ 1000 calories. I think I'd pass out.1
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Earl, I hear ya. Different strokes for different folks. But if you do a little bit of research the lining of the stomach gets severely worn out by eating so many meals a day. It causes a lot of health problems. So eating one meal a day is not only beneficial for losing weight. It benefits you overall.
Actually, I HEALED the lining of my stomach by switching to 5 meals a day. Too much food in one meal was contributing to erosion of the stomach lining and anemia from the bleeding.
That's AWESOME that you healed your stomach! The human body is just amazing. I think it's really incredible that for some people eating 5 meals a day HEALS them and for others eating that often keeps their insulin levels too high so an intermittent fasting schedule works for their body. It's so awesome (yet frustrating at times) that there's no blanket "fix all" approach!
Actually, eating more frequent, smaller meals is better for the blood sugar because it keeps it more level rather than the peaks and dips people get from eating less frequent larger meals.
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Earl, I hear ya. Different strokes for different folks. But if you do a little bit of research the lining of the stomach gets severely worn out by eating so many meals a day. It causes a lot of health problems. So eating one meal a day is not only beneficial for losing weight. It benefits you overall.
Actually, I HEALED the lining of my stomach by switching to 5 meals a day. Too much food in one meal was contributing to erosion of the stomach lining and anemia from the bleeding.
That's AWESOME that you healed your stomach! The human body is just amazing. I think it's really incredible that for some people eating 5 meals a day HEALS them and for others eating that often keeps their insulin levels too high so an intermittent fasting schedule works for their body. It's so awesome (yet frustrating at times) that there's no blanket "fix all" approach!
Actually, eating more frequent, smaller meals is better for the blood sugar because it keeps it more level rather than the peaks and dips people get from eating less frequent larger meals.
True ^^
Dr. Fung is generally considered a quack. Most of what he spews should be thrown out the window.0 -
We can go with animals that have one stomach too. Rodents, birds, apes, etc. look for food ALL the time. And eat A LOT more often than humans do. So not buying the pseudoscience of the stomach getting "worn" out at all. It's quack science just like akaline diets, blood diets, detoxing, etc.Earl, I hear ya. Different strokes for different folks. But if you do a little bit of research the lining of the stomach gets severely worn out by eating so many meals a day. It causes a lot of health problems. So eating one meal a day is not only beneficial for losing weight. It benefits you overall.
Actually, I HEALED the lining of my stomach by switching to 5 meals a day. Too much food in one meal was contributing to erosion of the stomach lining and anemia from the bleeding.
That's AWESOME that you healed your stomach! The human body is just amazing. I think it's really incredible that for some people eating 5 meals a day HEALS them and for others eating that often keeps their insulin levels too high so an intermittent fasting schedule works for their body. It's so awesome (yet frustrating at times) that there's no blanket "fix all" approach!If the stomach truly "wears" out from consistent eating, shouldn't animals be dying who eat consistently? Like cows for instance.
We're still animals. We just happen to have more intelligence than others, but our bodies pretty much work the same way it did THOUSANDS of years ago. All that changed was HOW we eat.
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I like where you're going with this. did you know that cows have 4 stomachs? I don't know the anatomy of other animals well enough to suggest one that proves where you were going, otherwise I would!! But cows eat alllll the time and actually regurgitate some of their food (it's called "cud") and chew it and digest it a second time before it passes onto the other stomachs. I think you're absolutely right that if cows tried to eat as much as they do with our digestive system they would be dying!!! But they're a bit out of our league what with the 4 stomachs and second pass at chewing their food and all
Think about this: what can hydorchloric acid destroy? Just about everything except your stomach due to mucus lining and sodium bicarbonate. If one does have an issue with either, they see a gastroenterologist and not some book by some MD who just happens to study something and have no doctorate in it.
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I personally had a lot of success on one meal a day and one snack. It works well. To each their own0
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OP is gone and this thread should too!0
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There's no hate here, because different methods work for different people. But upon reading this, I realized that I don't eat very often daily. I have insomnia and I am up late and wake late/ get up and start my day late. So I normally don't eat between 9 - 11 pm and 1-3pm. And I don't wake up starving. I'm not sure of the science behind it but eating 5-6 meals a day just doesn't work for me. Just putting in my info. 0
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