How Good Does Being "in shape" Taste/Feel
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crazyycatlady1 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »I really, really hate that quote. It implies two things:
1. That skinny is a feeling
2. Once you get to "skinny," you just walk around feeling all hunky-dory all the time and never have food cravings
Neither of those things are remotely true. Unless you also do a lot of work mentally as well, the new skinny you will feel the same as the old fat you. If you don't find a way to incorporate treats and fun foods into your diet, skinny you will be craving doughnuts MUCH MORE than you are right now and they'll taste that much better.
If being skinny/fit doesn't make you feel much better than being obese, I fail to see the point of getting fit.
That's just rhetorical. Being fit makes me feel less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain, on and on..a million times better than being overweight. It could not be more untrue about "feel the same as the old fat you"
Gallow is right about "Actually, the further I stayed away from such foods, the less I wanted them. " Tastes and cravings are acquired and condition-based. They can be as acquired as they can be un-acquired, completely gone from one's life.
Don't assume that you will be craving donuts or something the rest of you life.
As someone who's 4 years into maintenance-if it wasn't for the weight loss improving my blood work panels/health markers, frankly I wouldn't be bothering with this whole thing. I wasn't unhappy being overweight and I didn't have any obvious health conditions/struggles, (my issue was internal, with no symptoms). I was fine with how I looked and I really don't feel that much different now. It gets really tedious to always have to be mindful of my calorie intake now, to always check labels, to say no to food I want to eat and all the other things I have to do, to maintain my weight loss. The 'high' of losing the extra weight wore off a long time ago and I can totally see why most people fail at long term maintenance. I'll keep at this whole thing for the rest of my life, (which could be 40+ more years), because I know my weight directly controls my glucose number, but I'm under no illusion that weight loss does anything magical to how I 'feel'. I'm the same as I was before, I just wear different sized clothes now.
I realize I sound like I'm being a downer, but I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what actually may happen with weight loss.
This is bizarre to me and I'm lost when people lost weight to get better blood work,health markers but at the same time implied that they didn't feel better. As if having healthier body, having better blood pressure, blood sugar mark feels the same as having them bad when they were obese. At the least they should be mentally relieved that they have lower health risks. Is that not feeling better?
Well, I didn't expect anything "magical" so I don't have that illusion that you're talking about. I align my expectation correctly and defined "better feelings" clearly, ie "less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain". That's as real physical and mental as feelings go. I dispute the notion claimed by someone that they are not real.
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endlessfall16 wrote: »crazyycatlady1 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »I really, really hate that quote. It implies two things:
1. That skinny is a feeling
2. Once you get to "skinny," you just walk around feeling all hunky-dory all the time and never have food cravings
Neither of those things are remotely true. Unless you also do a lot of work mentally as well, the new skinny you will feel the same as the old fat you. If you don't find a way to incorporate treats and fun foods into your diet, skinny you will be craving doughnuts MUCH MORE than you are right now and they'll taste that much better.
If being skinny/fit doesn't make you feel much better than being obese, I fail to see the point of getting fit.
That's just rhetorical. Being fit makes me feel less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain, on and on..a million times better than being overweight. It could not be more untrue about "feel the same as the old fat you"
Gallow is right about "Actually, the further I stayed away from such foods, the less I wanted them. " Tastes and cravings are acquired and condition-based. They can be as acquired as they can be un-acquired, completely gone from one's life.
Don't assume that you will be craving donuts or something the rest of you life.
As someone who's 4 years into maintenance-if it wasn't for the weight loss improving my blood work panels/health markers, frankly I wouldn't be bothering with this whole thing. I wasn't unhappy being overweight and I didn't have any obvious health conditions/struggles, (my issue was internal, with no symptoms). I was fine with how I looked and I really don't feel that much different now. It gets really tedious to always have to be mindful of my calorie intake now, to always check labels, to say no to food I want to eat and all the other things I have to do, to maintain my weight loss. The 'high' of losing the extra weight wore off a long time ago and I can totally see why most people fail at long term maintenance. I'll keep at this whole thing for the rest of my life, (which could be 40+ more years), because I know my weight directly controls my glucose number, but I'm under no illusion that weight loss does anything magical to how I 'feel'. I'm the same as I was before, I just wear different sized clothes now.
I realize I sound like I'm being a downer, but I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what actually may happen with weight loss.
This is bizarre to me and I'm lost when people lost weight to get better blood work,health markers but at the same time implied that they didn't feel better. As if having healthier body, having better blood pressure, blood sugar mark feels the same as having them bad when they were obese. At the least they should be mentally relieved that they have lower health risks. Is that not feeling better?
Well, I didn't expect anything "magical" so I don't have that illusion that you're talking about. I align my expectation correctly and defined "better feelings" clearly, ie "less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain". That's as real physical and mental as feelings go. I dispute the notion claimed by someone that they are not real.
As I said above-I had no physical symptoms of my high glucose number. I accidentally found out I was a prediabeitc when I had unplanned blood work done, (thought my appendix was on the fritz at the time, and the ER ran a glucose test as part of the blood panel they did). Mentally I know that I've reversed the progression prediabetes, but some days that only goes so far. Again-I was happy with how things were before, and it's easy to lose focus on an 'abstract' grim future outcome. I know that I would probably be a type 2 diabetic at this point if I hadn't lost the weight, but in the day-in, day-out hassle of dealing with my weight management plan, that can fade into the background. This is part of the reason why I now get blood work panels done twice a year, because they help me stay focused.
Endlessfall16-are you in maintenance? If so, do you mind sharing how many years you've been maintaining? There's so few of us that are actually maintaining long term, and it's interesting to hear of others experiences with it.
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Oprah has lost weight successfully many times. She's not a great example of maintenance. I'm sure many here can identify with this.sunfastrose wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »I'm having trouble getting past "something Oprah said". Not the best example of successful weight loss
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Rebecca0224 wrote: »sunfastrose wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »I'm having trouble getting past "something Oprah said". Not the best example of successful weight loss
And just to point out - the saying has been co-opted by the pro-ana (pro-anorexia) communities, so I regard it warily now.
Every time I hear this or one of its paraphrasings I can't think of anything except the people I was in an ED clinic with. It sends a shiver down my spine.
Yeah. In fact, wasn't that quote originally said by an emaciated, possibly anorexic, fashion model.
I'm not sure, the first time I heard it was at a ED center and the girl passed out after saying it. The saying does work for getting me not to eat something because it makes me nauseous.2 -
crazyycatlady1 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »crazyycatlady1 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »I really, really hate that quote. It implies two things:
1. That skinny is a feeling
2. Once you get to "skinny," you just walk around feeling all hunky-dory all the time and never have food cravings
Neither of those things are remotely true. Unless you also do a lot of work mentally as well, the new skinny you will feel the same as the old fat you. If you don't find a way to incorporate treats and fun foods into your diet, skinny you will be craving doughnuts MUCH MORE than you are right now and they'll taste that much better.
If being skinny/fit doesn't make you feel much better than being obese, I fail to see the point of getting fit.
That's just rhetorical. Being fit makes me feel less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain, on and on..a million times better than being overweight. It could not be more untrue about "feel the same as the old fat you"
Gallow is right about "Actually, the further I stayed away from such foods, the less I wanted them. " Tastes and cravings are acquired and condition-based. They can be as acquired as they can be un-acquired, completely gone from one's life.
Don't assume that you will be craving donuts or something the rest of you life.
As someone who's 4 years into maintenance-if it wasn't for the weight loss improving my blood work panels/health markers, frankly I wouldn't be bothering with this whole thing. I wasn't unhappy being overweight and I didn't have any obvious health conditions/struggles, (my issue was internal, with no symptoms). I was fine with how I looked and I really don't feel that much different now. It gets really tedious to always have to be mindful of my calorie intake now, to always check labels, to say no to food I want to eat and all the other things I have to do, to maintain my weight loss. The 'high' of losing the extra weight wore off a long time ago and I can totally see why most people fail at long term maintenance. I'll keep at this whole thing for the rest of my life, (which could be 40+ more years), because I know my weight directly controls my glucose number, but I'm under no illusion that weight loss does anything magical to how I 'feel'. I'm the same as I was before, I just wear different sized clothes now.
I realize I sound like I'm being a downer, but I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what actually may happen with weight loss.
This is bizarre to me and I'm lost when people lost weight to get better blood work,health markers but at the same time implied that they didn't feel better. As if having healthier body, having better blood pressure, blood sugar mark feels the same as having them bad when they were obese. At the least they should be mentally relieved that they have lower health risks. Is that not feeling better?
Well, I didn't expect anything "magical" so I don't have that illusion that you're talking about. I align my expectation correctly and defined "better feelings" clearly, ie "less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain". That's as real physical and mental as feelings go. I dispute the notion claimed by someone that they are not real.
As I said above-I had no physical symptoms of my high glucose number. I accidentally found out I was a prediabeitc when I had unplanned blood work done, (thought my appendix was on the fritz at the time, and the ER ran a glucose test as part of the blood panel they did). Mentally I know that I've reversed the progression prediabetes, but some days that only goes so far. Again-I was happy with how things were before, and it's easy to lose focus on an 'abstract' grim future outcome. I know that I would probably be a type 2 diabetic at this point if I hadn't lost the weight, but in the day-in, day-out hassle of dealing with my weight management plan, that can fade into the background. This is part of the reason why I now get blood work panels done twice a year, because they help me stay focused.
Endlessfall16-are you in maintenance? If so, do you mind sharing how long you've been there? There's so few people that are actually maintaining long term, and it's interesting to hear of others experiences with it.
Maybe I sound combative but in actuality most of the time I look at things with interests and curiosity. No exception in this case. I suppose you handled/managed the weight issue much better than I did and those I know. I haven't met anyone who's not aware of their overweight status and harbor some worries about health. It's interesting to read about someone not "unhappy being overweight". That's a mindset that I don't see everyday! Certainly interesting.
I've been in maintenance over a year. As days go by I am feeling it's getting easier. Some statistics are important and I'm aware but not in this case for me. I read up on a lot of issues described on here trying to identify with so I could anticipate and refine my approach. I follow my own approach.0 -
The truth is ..... it's a good feeling to not have any physical limitations due to your size or weight. Not to be held back from doing things you enjoy. And it's nice to be at a healthy weight and look your best.
That being said, you don't need to retire the donuts altogether, just lay off them for now, or until you can eat one donut once in awhile. In due time, you might come to find you enjoy yogurt more than donuts anyway.2 -
Rebecca0224 wrote: »Rebecca0224 wrote: »sunfastrose wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »I'm having trouble getting past "something Oprah said". Not the best example of successful weight loss
And just to point out - the saying has been co-opted by the pro-ana (pro-anorexia) communities, so I regard it warily now.
Every time I hear this or one of its paraphrasings I can't think of anything except the people I was in an ED clinic with. It sends a shiver down my spine.
Yeah. In fact, wasn't that quote originally said by an emaciated, possibly anorexic, fashion model.
I'm not sure, the first time I heard it was at a ED center and the girl passed out after saying it. The saying does work for getting me not to eat something because it makes me nauseous.
I believe it was Kate Moss (waif-thin supermodel during the 'heroin chic' era) who popularized that saying.0 -
I can now easily chase my kid around the yard. play soccer with her, etc. I'll be alive to watch her grow up. I will be the father I never had who died young from piss poor habits and smoking.
Yeah.. that's alot better then a damn donut.
But on a less serious note, as many have said, you can have it all if you do it right3 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »crazyycatlady1 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »I really, really hate that quote. It implies two things:
1. That skinny is a feeling
2. Once you get to "skinny," you just walk around feeling all hunky-dory all the time and never have food cravings
Neither of those things are remotely true. Unless you also do a lot of work mentally as well, the new skinny you will feel the same as the old fat you. If you don't find a way to incorporate treats and fun foods into your diet, skinny you will be craving doughnuts MUCH MORE than you are right now and they'll taste that much better.
If being skinny/fit doesn't make you feel much better than being obese, I fail to see the point of getting fit.
That's just rhetorical. Being fit makes me feel less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain, on and on..a million times better than being overweight. It could not be more untrue about "feel the same as the old fat you"
Gallow is right about "Actually, the further I stayed away from such foods, the less I wanted them. " Tastes and cravings are acquired and condition-based. They can be as acquired as they can be un-acquired, completely gone from one's life.
Don't assume that you will be craving donuts or something the rest of you life.
As someone who's 4 years into maintenance-if it wasn't for the weight loss improving my blood work panels/health markers, frankly I wouldn't be bothering with this whole thing. I wasn't unhappy being overweight and I didn't have any obvious health conditions/struggles, (my issue was internal, with no symptoms). I was fine with how I looked and I really don't feel that much different now. It gets really tedious to always have to be mindful of my calorie intake now, to always check labels, to say no to food I want to eat and all the other things I have to do, to maintain my weight loss. The 'high' of losing the extra weight wore off a long time ago and I can totally see why most people fail at long term maintenance. I'll keep at this whole thing for the rest of my life, (which could be 40+ more years), because I know my weight directly controls my glucose number, but I'm under no illusion that weight loss does anything magical to how I 'feel'. I'm the same as I was before, I just wear different sized clothes now.
I realize I sound like I'm being a downer, but I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what actually may happen with weight loss.
This is bizarre to me and I'm lost when people lost weight to get better blood work,health markers but at the same time implied that they didn't feel better. As if having healthier body, having better blood pressure, blood sugar mark feels the same as having them bad when they were obese. At the least they should be mentally relieved that they have lower health risks. Is that not feeling better?
Well, I didn't expect anything "magical" so I don't have that illusion that you're talking about. I align my expectation correctly and defined "better feelings" clearly, ie "less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain". That's as real physical and mental as feelings go. I dispute the notion claimed by someone that they are not real.
But here you're invalidating the feelings of anyone who doesn't feel different after losing weight by telling them how they *should* feel, yet you are expecting others to validate your own feelings, which may differ from their's.5 -
Having clothes look nice on you, not being afraid of pictures, the confidence of having a good level of fitness, all of those things are much better than mindless splurging. As said, just plan your eating and you can still enjoy whatever. Personally, I'm in the group that doesn't miss most of the junk I used to eat.1
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I think I'm just so tired of being heavy that it feels almost like a treat to be losing weight. I've lost 18 lbs at about 1.2 lbs per week and have about 20 to go. How does it feel? It feels in control. My pants feel comfortable. My feet don't hurt. I want the bare veggie burger with hummus and broccoli. I feel proud that I can pass up the free candy and cake and donut. Nothing in the world tastes as good as being thinner feels!5
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endlessfall16 wrote: »crazyycatlady1 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »crazyycatlady1 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »I really, really hate that quote. It implies two things:
1. That skinny is a feeling
2. Once you get to "skinny," you just walk around feeling all hunky-dory all the time and never have food cravings
Neither of those things are remotely true. Unless you also do a lot of work mentally as well, the new skinny you will feel the same as the old fat you. If you don't find a way to incorporate treats and fun foods into your diet, skinny you will be craving doughnuts MUCH MORE than you are right now and they'll taste that much better.
If being skinny/fit doesn't make you feel much better than being obese, I fail to see the point of getting fit.
That's just rhetorical. Being fit makes me feel less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain, on and on..a million times better than being overweight. It could not be more untrue about "feel the same as the old fat you"
Gallow is right about "Actually, the further I stayed away from such foods, the less I wanted them. " Tastes and cravings are acquired and condition-based. They can be as acquired as they can be un-acquired, completely gone from one's life.
Don't assume that you will be craving donuts or something the rest of you life.
As someone who's 4 years into maintenance-if it wasn't for the weight loss improving my blood work panels/health markers, frankly I wouldn't be bothering with this whole thing. I wasn't unhappy being overweight and I didn't have any obvious health conditions/struggles, (my issue was internal, with no symptoms). I was fine with how I looked and I really don't feel that much different now. It gets really tedious to always have to be mindful of my calorie intake now, to always check labels, to say no to food I want to eat and all the other things I have to do, to maintain my weight loss. The 'high' of losing the extra weight wore off a long time ago and I can totally see why most people fail at long term maintenance. I'll keep at this whole thing for the rest of my life, (which could be 40+ more years), because I know my weight directly controls my glucose number, but I'm under no illusion that weight loss does anything magical to how I 'feel'. I'm the same as I was before, I just wear different sized clothes now.
I realize I sound like I'm being a downer, but I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what actually may happen with weight loss.
This is bizarre to me and I'm lost when people lost weight to get better blood work,health markers but at the same time implied that they didn't feel better. As if having healthier body, having better blood pressure, blood sugar mark feels the same as having them bad when they were obese. At the least they should be mentally relieved that they have lower health risks. Is that not feeling better?
Well, I didn't expect anything "magical" so I don't have that illusion that you're talking about. I align my expectation correctly and defined "better feelings" clearly, ie "less worried about health, get up much easier, less joint pain". That's as real physical and mental as feelings go. I dispute the notion claimed by someone that they are not real.
As I said above-I had no physical symptoms of my high glucose number. I accidentally found out I was a prediabeitc when I had unplanned blood work done, (thought my appendix was on the fritz at the time, and the ER ran a glucose test as part of the blood panel they did). Mentally I know that I've reversed the progression prediabetes, but some days that only goes so far. Again-I was happy with how things were before, and it's easy to lose focus on an 'abstract' grim future outcome. I know that I would probably be a type 2 diabetic at this point if I hadn't lost the weight, but in the day-in, day-out hassle of dealing with my weight management plan, that can fade into the background. This is part of the reason why I now get blood work panels done twice a year, because they help me stay focused.
Endlessfall16-are you in maintenance? If so, do you mind sharing how long you've been there? There's so few people that are actually maintaining long term, and it's interesting to hear of others experiences with it.
Maybe I sound combative but in actuality most of the time I look at things with interests and curiosity. No exception in this case. I suppose you handled/managed the weight issue much better than I did and those I know. I haven't met anyone who's not aware of their overweight status and harbor some worries about health. It's interesting to read about someone not "unhappy being overweight". That's a mindset that I don't see everyday! Certainly interesting.
I've been in maintenance over a year. As days go by I am feeling it's getting easier. Some statistics are important and I'm aware but not in this case for me. I read up on a lot of issues described on here trying to identify with so I could anticipate and refine my approach. I follow my own approach.
If you're not a part of the NWCR (National Weight Control Registry), you should join-with so few of us who are successfully maintaining it's important that our maintenance experiences can possibly help others down the road
And yeah, my weight really wasn't an issue for me back then-my grandmother/mother/sisters/uncles are all obese/overweight (and grandfather/great-grandmother were too), all my girlfriends at the time were overweight and I had 3 kids 22 months apart from each other-I was solidly in the 'mommy jeans' crowd lol. Now that I'm thin, with a bmi of a 20, I definitely don't fit in with rest of my family/those who I interact with in real life. That's actually one of the reasons I keep coming back to MFP (I get fed up with the forums, delete my account and then come right back
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Losing 110 lbs made it possible for me to hike without knee pain, and walk around wearing regular shoes instead of needing highly cushioned athletic shoes all the time. Maintaining my responsibilities is easier because I'm not constantly being exhausted by moving that extra weight around. But I experienced extreme symptoms becausei have an autoimmune disorder that was attacking my heart. Getting the weight off gave my poor heart a fighting chance against my immune system.
But it didn't get rid of the arthritis in my hands, or cure my scoliosis related issues of nerve compression in the spine or lowered lung capacity. My migraines are only under control because of better medication ; missing a dose still means I get them back. I never had high blood pressure or a fast pulse or high blood sugar, and outside of active episodes of pericarditis, I was never physically weak when fat.
It didn't just magically fix everything, only those things that my weight was actually affecting for me.
And while I am not weak in the knees for doughnuts, I love cookies. And other sweets, but mostly cookies.
Now, regular cookies are part of my maintenance plan. Once I meet my nutrition goals for protein and fiber, I figure the rest of my calories are discretionary. So I get to enjoy a few hundred calories of tasty, delicious things without making their nutrition profile the mahogany focus of my life.
Cookies still taste heavenly to me. I just stop at a smaller (though still quite generous) 200 to 400 calories now.6 -
Oprah has lost weight successfully many times. She's not a great example of maintenance. I'm sure many here can identify with this.sunfastrose wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »I'm having trouble getting past "something Oprah said". Not the best example of successful weight loss
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I'd bet there are many fit people walking around who may not feel good about themselves. I'd bet there are many non-fit in the same category.
While exercise can make you feel temporarily, if there are things that "haunt" you as a person, no exercise in the world will make resolve those for you.
Agreed....I really, really hate that quote. It implies two things:
1. That skinny is a feeling
2. Once you get to "skinny," you just walk around feeling all hunky-dory all the time and never have food cravings
Neither of those things are remotely true. Unless you also do a lot of work mentally as well, the new skinny you will feel the same as the old fat you. If you don't find a way to incorporate treats and fun foods into your diet, skinny you will be craving doughnuts MUCH MORE than you are right now and they'll taste that much better.
Agreed again...I consider myself to be a fit person. Speaking from my own personal experience, being skinny doesn't, in itself, "make" me feel anything. I was speaking more about your mental state and not necessarily about your physical state; I don't personally think that "skinny" is a feeling. Mentally, there is no automatic shift between being skinny and being fat. That kind of a shift in thinking takes work.
Physically, there may be a noticeable change and there may not be. Some people don't physically feel terrible when they're overweight and some people have a lot of discomfort, so YMMV.
I absolutely still crave things like doughnuts. Losing weight didn't necessarily change my tastebuds. Just hoping that the feeling of being skinny is enough to make you not want things that taste good is ridiculous.
Agreed again..."AliceDark wrote: »It's possible to lose weight and have no associated changes in mindset/mental state.
It's possible to lose weight and have positive associated changes in mindset/mental state.
It's even possible to lose weight and have negative associated changes in mindset/mental state.
Losing weight is not dependent upon, nor does it necessarily lead to, any change of mindset, outlook, perspective, etc. Your argument may be true in your experience, but there are people other than me in this thread who are telling you that your experience is not universal.
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Unfortunately for me, nowhere near as good as 5 doughnuts. Or pizza. Or cake. Or biscuits. So I can't use that as my motivation.2
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For me, the achievement of setting a big goal, putting 100% effort into it and achieving it, is worth more than the 30 seconds of satisfaction from a certain piece of food.
That aside, there is no need to cut out foods to reach your goal, you just need to account for them in your daily/weekly intake. Reduces calories by 100 from Monday - Friday and allow yourself 1 (or 2) doughnuts knowing that you've earned them0 -
I'm with @crazyycatlady1 To be honest, I can't put my finger on why I decided to lose weight. I wasn't unhappy. Yeah there was some stuff I couldn't do, but nothing I needed to do that I couldn't. Hell, I can't even blame a doctors visit or bloodwork, as I haven't been in years. People ask me if I feel better and my standard reply is I didn't feel bad before. Yeah I have more energy now, and I walk more, but I wasn't unhappy on the couch with a bag of chips.
I get that some have done this to dramatically improve themselves, but that wasn't a big motivation for me. I'm just doing it, because.3 -
You can have both.0
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Healthy eating and being in shape aren't mutually exclusive. Enjoy your doughnuts, but keep your body moving. Fitness, for me, has made me feel unstoppable. The junk food, not so much, but I just can't refuse myself the sweets.3
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »I eat donuts and I lose weight. You can have both.
You might be able to do that, but I sure have no plans to go down that road again.
I can't get the same "food value" out of a donut as I can from say, a protein bar. So if I eat a donut, I have to eat more of something else to make up for that lack of nutrition. For those of us that don't have 2000 calories (or whatever your high number is) to consume, yes, we DO need to give up/restrict certain foods from our regular diet. As a special treat now and then, sure, when I am back on maintenance, once in a great while, I will splurge on a Duck Donuts maple bacon. But no way am I eating them every day or even every week. Eating too much of that kind of stuff is what got me this extra weight I am working on losing. 1 -
storyjorie wrote: »I guess everyone has their own "taste" when it comes to what makes a splurge taste good. I enjoy and really savor every crumb of a splurge I planned for. Going out for an amazing Italian dinner with my husband on a Saturday night when that morning I ran 8 miles, after a week of eating as I had planned to do=feels and tastes great in every possible way. Eating a donut I didn't intend to eat "just because" doesn't feel nearly as good to me.
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »I eat donuts and I lose weight. You can have both.
You might be able to do that, but I sure have no plans to go down that road again. I can't get the same "food value" out of a donut as I can from say, a protein bar. So if I eat a donut, I have to eat more of something else to make up for that lack of nutrition. For those of us that don't have 2000 calories (or whatever your high number is) to consume, yes, we DO need to give up/restrict certain foods from our regular diet. As a special treat now and then, sure, when I am back on maintenance, once in a great while, I will splurge on a Duck Donuts maple bacon. But no way am I eating them every day or even every week. Eating too much of that kind of stuff is what got me this extra weight I am working on losing.
You ever have the special treat on the rare occasion and then think "That didn't taste nearly as good as I remember it"?1 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »This becomes a personal question, that no one but you can answer for yourself. If you can't "eat just one", then it might be best to cut them out completely.
I thought I might have this issue with chips. I could eat a family sized bag in one sitting if I felt like it. And it would not last more than 3, with 2 being average. I now have a box of small bags of chips (under 30 grams ~ 170 calories) and I can eat one bag and move on happily. Others here can't and would eat a lot more than 1 bag if they had them in the house.
Absolutely agree. Everyone has to know themselves, and figure out what works for them. I know that I CANNOT HAVE POTATO CHIPS IN THE HOUSE. NEVER. EVER.
I will eat a half of a bag, in one sitting. Simply love them too much, and the only way for me to conquer that is to not buy them. Nope. Not gonna do it.2 -
This thread has done much to stir my emotions.
Thanks again, everyone.
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »I eat donuts and I lose weight. You can have both.
You might be able to do that, but I sure have no plans to go down that road again. I can't get the same "food value" out of a donut as I can from say, a protein bar. So if I eat a donut, I have to eat more of something else to make up for that lack of nutrition. For those of us that don't have 2000 calories (or whatever your high number is) to consume, yes, we DO need to give up/restrict certain foods from our regular diet. As a special treat now and then, sure, when I am back on maintenance, once in a great while, I will splurge on a Duck Donuts maple bacon. But no way am I eating them every day or even every week. Eating too much of that kind of stuff is what got me this extra weight I am working on losing.
You ever have the special treat on the rare occasion and then think "That didn't taste nearly as good as I remember it"?
Oh yes.
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