Who watched "fat sick and nearly dead"?
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He's using the term metaphorically, of course.
I watched the documentary and what I took away was that it would be a good way to make sure I'm getting plenty of vegetables each day. I haven't tried it, yet, but I did get a juicer on Amazon for this purpose. I'm also interested to see if it gives me more energy and clarity. Obviously, consuming fewer calories during a fast will result in some weight loss, but so would eating more veggies and less of other things--that is not the reason I'm going to try a short term fast next week.
After some surgeries, physicians will prescribe a liquid diet to give the intestinal tract a rest. I see a juice fast as accomplishing the same thing.1 -
He's using the term metaphorically, of course.
I watched the documentary and what I took away was that it would be a good way to make sure I'm getting plenty of vegetables each day. I haven't tried it, yet, but I did get a juicer on Amazon for this purpose. I'm also interested to see if it gives me more energy and clarity. Obviously, consuming fewer calories during a fast will result in some weight loss, but so would eating more veggies and less of other things--that is not the reason I'm going to try a short term fast next week.
After some surgeries, physicians will prescribe a liquid diet to give the intestinal tract a rest. I see a juice fast as accomplishing the same thing.
If you've recently had surgery, it would be a prudent idea to follow your doctor's instructions.
If you haven't recently had surgery, there's no rational reason to "give the intestinal tract a rest", any more than there's a rational reason to give your respiratory system a rest from airborne pollutants/"toxins" by not breathing for a few weeks.13 -
He's using the term metaphorically, of course.
I watched the documentary and what I took away was that it would be a good way to make sure I'm getting plenty of vegetables each day. I haven't tried it, yet, but I did get a juicer on Amazon for this purpose. I'm also interested to see if it gives me more energy and clarity. Obviously, consuming fewer calories during a fast will result in some weight loss, but so would eating more veggies and less of other things--that is not the reason I'm going to try a short term fast next week.
After some surgeries, physicians will prescribe a liquid diet to give the intestinal tract a rest. I see a juice fast as accomplishing the same thing.
That is because after surgeries, if you dont rest you can cause infection or worse. That is a medical necessity. And if you have spend any long periods of time in a hospital, you'd also know that the doctors quickly advance you off that diet because they always want patients to be able to tolerate real food because it demonstrates there bodies are healed and working right.7 -
He's using the term metaphorically, of course.
I watched the documentary and what I took away was that it would be a good way to make sure I'm getting plenty of vegetables each day. I haven't tried it, yet, but I did get a juicer on Amazon for this purpose. I'm also interested to see if it gives me more energy and clarity. Obviously, consuming fewer calories during a fast will result in some weight loss, but so would eating more veggies and less of other things--that is not the reason I'm going to try a short term fast next week.
After some surgeries, physicians will prescribe a liquid diet to give the intestinal tract a rest. I see a juice fast as accomplishing the same thing.
Which physicians would that be? Not MD's2 -
I just watched it on Netflix and it was very interesting!!! I'm just genuinely curious- what do you all think of fasting for a few days, does it really help to detoxify or are you doing more harm than good? And won't you just end up gaining that weight back once you go back to your "regular" diet routine?
Other than that it was really eye opening how big of an issue obesity is and how others see themselves, very interesting!
rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/
Here is a non Netflix source I am currently watching on the web. Thanks for posting. I am glad he did it with a doctor watching his process with blood work every 10 days.1 -
Eating a lot of vegetables is a great idea!I watched the documentary and what I took away was that it would be a good way to make sure I'm getting plenty of vegetables each day. I haven't tried it, yet, but I did get a juicer on Amazon for this purpose. I'm also interested to see if it gives me more energy and clarity.
I'm not sure that doing that through juicing is as good an idea though, unless you're also eating the fiber that most juicers separate out and most people discard. (For example you could juice vegetables and use both the juice and the fiber in a soup.) The only reasons I can think of why juicing might be necessary is if someone can't tolerate solid food or has to limit fiber.
Part of the benefit of vegetables for someone who's "fat, sick, and nearly dead" is that whole vegetables are both low-calorie and bulky. They tend to crowd out more calorie-dense foods, making it easier to lose weight. Vegetable juices don't provide the same benefit.
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He's using the term metaphorically, of course.
I watched the documentary and what I took away was that it would be a good way to make sure I'm getting plenty of vegetables each day. I haven't tried it, yet, but I did get a juicer on Amazon for this purpose. I'm also interested to see if it gives me more energy and clarity. Obviously, consuming fewer calories during a fast will result in some weight loss, but so would eating more veggies and less of other things--that is not the reason I'm going to try a short term fast next week.
After some surgeries, physicians will prescribe a liquid diet to give the intestinal tract a rest. I see a juice fast as accomplishing the same thing.
This was my first intro to the concept of juicing and I found it interesting.
What I find interesting is how most all diets can help REBOOT one's health. I accidentally did it when I when Low Carb High Fat without knowing about LCHF.
It seems like the mental intent to REBOOT our health may be as key as the HOW we REBOOT our health.
It was a great video and it pulled together things I have learned about rebooting one's health that I have learned/practiced since 2014.
The truck driver getting of meds that in lead to premature health failure was a big push in his health reboot I expect.2 -
Don't be obtuse: he's using the term metaphorically, of course.
I watched the documentary and what I took away was that it would be a good way to make sure I'm getting plenty of vegetables each day. I haven't tried it, yet, but I did get a juicer on Amazon for this purpose. I'm also interested to see if it gives me more energy and clarity. Obviously, consuming fewer calories during a fast will result in some weight loss, but so would eating more veggies and less of other things--that is not the reason I'm going to try a short term fast next week.
After some surgeries, physicians will prescribe a liquid diet to give the intestinal tract a rest. I see a juice fast as accomplishing the same thing.
If you've recently had surgery, it would be a prudent idea to follow your doctor's instructions.
If you haven't recently had surgery, there's no rational reason to "give the intestinal tract a rest", any more than there's a rational reason to give your respiratory system a rest from airborne pollutants/"toxins" by not breathing for a few weeks.
Indeed.
I actually just came from visiting a friend of mine who is rehabilitating after surgery. He told me that all he feels like eating is the fruit plate, but that his doctor is forcing him to consume more protein. Today he was trying to get down some salisbury steak.0 -
How about yogurt or eggs rather than a steak?1
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How about yogurt or eggs rather than a steak?
My friend? I think he had a yogurt on his plate too, can't say if he ate it. The steak was something he chose based on the menu and what his doctor told him. He told me the food was fine, but nothing seemed appealing in general (but for fruit). Don't know if they had eggs as an option for lunch or if he likes eggs or if his doctor encouraged meat because of it being a more efficient protein source (friend is not a vegetarian); I didn't look at the menu or ask any questions about it. I'm assuming it wasn't unlimited choices given this was a medical facility.0 -
I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning.
I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all. 16 -
I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Did you just bump a thread that hasn't been posted in for over 4 months in order to scold people and brag about your expensive juicer?13 -
I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
ok...2 -
urgh, why are we still using disposable stuff - environment, people!!6
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I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Science doesn't care what you believe.8 -
I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???6 -
I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?7 -
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I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.0 -
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Shawshankcan wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Science doesn't care what you believe.
Until today's science is proven wrong tomorrow.10 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.
A smoothie is with fibre juice leaves behind the pulp which IS the fibre.
My point exactly. (When I make juice I just use a food processor and pour the liquid right into the cup. Nothing gets left behind. So to speak.)1 -
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GaleHawkins wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Science doesn't care what you believe.
Until today's science is proven wrong tomorrow.
Maybe someday, but not today...1 -
RedfootDaddy wrote: »
I think the point is to go cold-turkey on things like sugars, refined carbs, fast food, and junk. The juicing itself is secondary. The main thing is to brute force your way through cravings and the will-power-leeching habits of the first couple weeks of any new WOE. Which is easier if you're only drinking a melange of fruits and veg.
Juice is pretty much literally sugar water with vitamins in it. It's no different to drinking pop, except for the vitamins. Juice even takes out the fibre (juice with the fibre left in is a smoothie) so you're not even getting that benefit.OnthatStuff wrote: »
I'm not going to weigh in on juice fasting. Still, if anything, juicing as a part of a normal diet can be an easy way to get larger portions of fruit and veggie nutrients into your diet. In my experience, drinking those nutrients is often much easier than eating them. For example, I don't like eating beets, but I can hide their flavor in a drink using a few slices of fruit.
Unfortunately, it really doesn't work that way. Juice can ONLY count as ONE of your recommended 5-a-day, according to most accepted science. This is because juice leaves out a lot of the most important stuff such as fibre, and the nutrients of the skin etc. It also concentrates the sugar. Sugar's not bad for you, but it's a lot of calories for very little benefit. Sure, you're getting loads of vitamin C and A but it's really not the same as eating those fruits and vegetables whole.
All in all, OP, I'd recommend just... eating less and getting a balanced diet.
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I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
ok, no one cares about juicing..what we care about are the BS claims that it somehow detoxifies the body..7 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Science doesn't care what you believe.
Until today's science is proven wrong tomorrow.
Science is a process. There are no facts to be proven right or wrong. Everything is a theory. Once a theory has been tested enough times, it is accepted. That still doesn't make it a fact.
Some theories you take for granted without even realizing it. You don't fall off the earth (theory of gravity), you type on your computer (theory of electricity), and you have no problem getting in an airplane (many theories at work here). Yet when there's a chance at a shortcut and an snake oil salesman is involved, people suspend common sense. So to those who are easily manipulated, I know the one TRUE way to fly. Trust me (but please pay up front
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It always makes me chuckle a little when people say "BUT SCIENCE" in relation to nutrition. It is perhaps the field with the least scientific consensus that I've ever seen. It's the nature of the beast. You could conduct the exact same experiment on 2 sets of different people that seem otherwise similar and get totally different and contradictory results.11
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I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.
If you're using a "juicer" then it's already straining out the fiber. If you use a food processor or blender then you'll still get the fiber even if it's completely liquefied.
I watched that movie a couple years ago and thought it was interesting and wanted to try it. My son was also interested so I bought both of us juicers on Amazon and we both tried it for awhile. Comparing notes and sharing ideas.
Main takeaways for me:
Pros: tasty juice with lots of vitamins
Cons: expensive, messy, wasteful, not very filling
I was buying a lot of produce, making a big mess in my kitchen, getting a little bit of juice and then had lots of leftover veggie fiber that just went into the composter. I tried making soup out of the fiber but it wasn't that great. The juicer was also hard to clean, so it was time consuming.
I switched to just make fruit/veggie smoothies, cleaned up the PITA juicer and donated it to charity. I think my son's charity donation preceded mine by several weeks.2
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