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ClubSilencio wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Bullets are not susceptible to wind.Michael190lbs wrote: »VioletRojo wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
Why would I carry mace when I can carry a gun?
Its safer for the jogger to carry Mace when running and more than likely a better choice for accuracy especially if using a fogger type mace.
Try jogging in place for 2 minutes at the shooting range then attempt to hit a target you will get my point quickly
I train as I expect I might need to use the training. In other words, not in a calm, perfect stance under ideal range conditions.GiddyupTim wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Ah. No
But we were just talking about Plaxico, so.......What's your point? A gun is foolproof?
Riiiight...
We were talking about some idiot who illegally carried a firearm. Plaxico Burress has no bearing on a lawful concealed carrier.ClubSilencio wrote: »Wouldn't something like Krav Maga be more useful than simply carrying heat? You never really read about joggers thwarting an attacker on the trail with close range gunfire. I understand the need to feel safe, and maybe you do have Charles Bronson skillz, but the odds are more likely that there will be a struggle. Krav Maga is universally effective.
This thread isn't a debate on the merits of firearms as a defense tool. OP asked for carry options, not your opinion on hand to hand combat techniques.
If the end game is safety, why can't we bring up other self defense techniques? We are selling this issue way short if the answer is simply holster yoga pants.
1) OP didn't ask for critique or judgment of her chosen self-defense method. She chooses to carry a firearm and specifically asked for suggestions for a good holster for walking/running.
2) I imagine that if OP was interested in exploring other methods/techniques, she would have asked. She didn't ask.
3) This isn't the debate forum and nothing in the OP asked for/invited debate. Nor did she ask for people crapping on/derailing her thread with unrelated discussion.
4) I don't consider it "selling the issue way short" by keeping responses relevant to the original, explicitly asked question. It's about as civil and relevant as going into a thread asking for suggestions for vegan meals and saying "You should really eat meat instead!".
Those are a few reasons I can think of.10 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »southrnchic479 wrote: »Just wondering if anyone has found any cute Capri length workout pants or tops or if anyone has any general suggestions on ways to conceal carry while going for a walk or jog. Luckily mine is pretty tiny so it lends itself to being easily concealed but obviously I'd like it easily accessible too! Sorry if this is the wrong board to be posting in - let me know if so and I will move it to the appropriate board! Thanks!bigmuneymfp wrote: »Nobody asked for opinions lol
Actually.......
Opinions on ways to carry concealed while running were asked for.
Opinions on whether or not concealed carry is the preferable method of self defense were not.ClubSilencio wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Bullets are not susceptible to wind.Michael190lbs wrote: »VioletRojo wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
Why would I carry mace when I can carry a gun?
Its safer for the jogger to carry Mace when running and more than likely a better choice for accuracy especially if using a fogger type mace.
Try jogging in place for 2 minutes at the shooting range then attempt to hit a target you will get my point quickly
I train as I expect I might need to use the training. In other words, not in a calm, perfect stance under ideal range conditions.GiddyupTim wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Ah. No
But we were just talking about Plaxico, so.......What's your point? A gun is foolproof?
Riiiight...
We were talking about some idiot who illegally carried a firearm. Plaxico Burress has no bearing on a lawful concealed carrier.ClubSilencio wrote: »Wouldn't something like Krav Maga be more useful than simply carrying heat? You never really read about joggers thwarting an attacker on the trail with close range gunfire. I understand the need to feel safe, and maybe you do have Charles Bronson skillz, but the odds are more likely that there will be a struggle. Krav Maga is universally effective.
This thread isn't a debate on the merits of firearms as a defense tool. OP asked for carry options, not your opinion on hand to hand combat techniques.
If the end game is safety, why can't we bring up other self defense techniques? We are selling this issue way short if the answer is simply holster yoga pants.
Maybe you should start a thread about debating methods of self defense in the debate forum.5 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »southrnchic479 wrote: »Just wondering if anyone has found any cute Capri length workout pants or tops or if anyone has any general suggestions on ways to conceal carry while going for a walk or jog. Luckily mine is pretty tiny so it lends itself to being easily concealed but obviously I'd like it easily accessible too! Sorry if this is the wrong board to be posting in - let me know if so and I will move it to the appropriate board! Thanks!bigmuneymfp wrote: »Nobody asked for opinions lol
Actually.......
Opinions on ways to carry concealed while running were asked for.
Opinions on whether or not concealed carry is the preferable method of self defense were not.ClubSilencio wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Bullets are not susceptible to wind.Michael190lbs wrote: »VioletRojo wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
Why would I carry mace when I can carry a gun?
Its safer for the jogger to carry Mace when running and more than likely a better choice for accuracy especially if using a fogger type mace.
Try jogging in place for 2 minutes at the shooting range then attempt to hit a target you will get my point quickly
I train as I expect I might need to use the training. In other words, not in a calm, perfect stance under ideal range conditions.GiddyupTim wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Ah. No
But we were just talking about Plaxico, so.......What's your point? A gun is foolproof?
Riiiight...
We were talking about some idiot who illegally carried a firearm. Plaxico Burress has no bearing on a lawful concealed carrier.ClubSilencio wrote: »Wouldn't something like Krav Maga be more useful than simply carrying heat? You never really read about joggers thwarting an attacker on the trail with close range gunfire. I understand the need to feel safe, and maybe you do have Charles Bronson skillz, but the odds are more likely that there will be a struggle. Krav Maga is universally effective.
This thread isn't a debate on the merits of firearms as a defense tool. OP asked for carry options, not your opinion on hand to hand combat techniques.
If the end game is safety, why can't we bring up other self defense techniques? We are selling this issue way short if the answer is simply holster yoga pants.
Maybe you should start a thread about debating methods of self defense in the debate forum.
My comment still applies to the comment I was quoting. I'm aware of what the post is about. Thank you for your unsolicited help, though.0 -
People call the county I live in Fayette Nam. You either are good at defending yourself, watch where and when you go anywhere, pray you don't need to protect yourself or your property or you take lessons and have a conceal carry permit. My dtr is 23 and jogs before she had a conceal carry she carried a knife and a taser or pepper spray, never just one of the three.
I have a weapon, but do not carry, I live too far from anyone and my husband travels. I really try hard to keep my activities to crowded areas in full sunlight or have someone with me. Where I work someone was attacking girls on the rail trail. If that starts at home I will need my permit.0 -
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Wow! Who knew that such an innocuous question would provoke such furor? I think this was a great place to ask the question and I'm glad you brought awareness and consideration to the issue of safety and security while running. Sorry it kind of blew up. I recommend taking a look at LA Police Gear (http://www.lapolicegear.com). They have some great concealed carry stuff, a lot of gear specifically for women (yes, capris), and lots of fun toys for those who do choose to revel in their second amendment rights. I don't know if anything there will necessarily fit the bill, but there were a lot of other good recommendations from a few other posters (if you can sift through them). I like the idea of the fanny pack myself, although I think it's a good idea to have one specifically designed for concealed carry. It will allow for easier access, better retention, and will eliminate the risk of keys or other items that you're carrying getting wedged in the trigger. An in the waistband holster would be nice, but harder to conceal unless you're wearing bulkier clothes. LA Police Gear does have a variety of athletically cut tactical shirts with a holster pocket for concealed carry, but I think they're intended more as an undershirt and might cause some chafing on the inside of your arm or torso if you're trying to jog in it. Good luck, and stay safe!5
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Bullets are not susceptible to wind.Michael190lbs wrote: »VioletRojo wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
Why would I carry mace when I can carry a gun?
Its safer for the jogger to carry Mace when running and more than likely a better choice for accuracy especially if using a fogger type mace.
Try jogging in place for 2 minutes at the shooting range then attempt to hit a target you will get my point quickly
I train as I expect I might need to use the training. In other words, not in a calm, perfect stance under ideal range conditions.GiddyupTim wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Ah. No
But we were just talking about Plaxico, so.......What's your point? A gun is foolproof?
Riiiight...
We were talking about some idiot who illegally carried a firearm. Plaxico Burress has no bearing on a lawful concealed carrier.ClubSilencio wrote: »Wouldn't something like Krav Maga be more useful than simply carrying heat? You never really read about joggers thwarting an attacker on the trail with close range gunfire. I understand the need to feel safe, and maybe you do have Charles Bronson skillz, but the odds are more likely that there will be a struggle. Krav Maga is universally effective.
This thread isn't a debate on the merits of firearms as a defense tool. OP asked for carry options, not your opinion on hand to hand combat techniques.
Awesome post we should be bros!0 -
Put on your army boots and fatigues, grab an assault rifle, get out in the park and do some double time while chanting cadence rhymes at the top of your lungs. Ain't no one gonna *kitten* with you.0
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bigmuneymfp wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Bullets are not susceptible to wind.Michael190lbs wrote: »VioletRojo wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
Why would I carry mace when I can carry a gun?
Its safer for the jogger to carry Mace when running and more than likely a better choice for accuracy especially if using a fogger type mace.
Try jogging in place for 2 minutes at the shooting range then attempt to hit a target you will get my point quickly
I train as I expect I might need to use the training. In other words, not in a calm, perfect stance under ideal range conditions.GiddyupTim wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Ah. No
But we were just talking about Plaxico, so.......What's your point? A gun is foolproof?
Riiiight...
We were talking about some idiot who illegally carried a firearm. Plaxico Burress has no bearing on a lawful concealed carrier.ClubSilencio wrote: »Wouldn't something like Krav Maga be more useful than simply carrying heat? You never really read about joggers thwarting an attacker on the trail with close range gunfire. I understand the need to feel safe, and maybe you do have Charles Bronson skillz, but the odds are more likely that there will be a struggle. Krav Maga is universally effective.
This thread isn't a debate on the merits of firearms as a defense tool. OP asked for carry options, not your opinion on hand to hand combat techniques.
Awesome post we should be bros!
I like bonding over firearms.1 -
Me too!0
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bigmuneymfp wrote: »Me too!
It's the smell of burnt propellant in the air that makes the magic happen.2 -
ClubSilencio wrote: »Wouldn't something like Krav Maga be more useful than simply carrying heat? You never really read about joggers thwarting an attacker on the trail with close range gunfire. I understand the need to feel safe, and maybe you do have Charles Bronson skillz, but the odds are more likely that there will be a struggle. Krav Maga is universally effective.
Mainstream media isn't exactly pro gun. Magazines like "Guns and Ammo" and "Field and Stream" have sections called "The Armed Citizen" and the like, reporting confrontations between criminals and law abiding citizens and the outcome of these conflicts. Most people aren't very good at hand to hand combat. A gun greatly levels the playing field, and often gives an attacker pause to rethink his actions, prior to getting shot. Most attackers are looking for "victims", not people capable of defending themselves.There's no reason you should ever have to take a beating when there are legal, effective, decisive ways to defend yourself. I'll take my chances with a firearm every time.6 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »Me too!
It's the smell of burnt propellant in the air that makes the magic happen.
The smell of hoppes #9 does it for me!0 -
Dang! You women have so many concealment options! That's a great site. Those compression shorts are awesome.1 -
5.11 has some great concealment options and my personal go to. My wife has some of the UnderTech products and they make a capri. The key point in this is selecting a garment and carry option that feels comfortable and is immediately accessible. Whatever you decide on try on and train in a safe environment drawing from your holster.3
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Michael190lbs wrote: »VioletRojo wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »VioletRojo wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
Why would I carry mace when I can carry a gun?
Its safer for the jogger to carry Mace when running and more than likely a better choice for accuracy especially if using a fogger type mace.
Try jogging in place for 2 minutes at the shooting range then attempt to hit a target you will get my point quickly
I have. I try to train for the situations I might be placed in. As an experienced runner, and an experienced shooter, I would much rather be carrying a gun than mace. A big reason is t hat I don't want to have to be close enough to a threat to use mace.
If someone is far away they aren't attacking you so you can't shoot them my mace shoots 25 feet. If they beat you up get up and walk away you can't shoot them after they have stopped. So many people are going to prison because they shot someone as they believe its legal or because they have a gun they are some how now a judge, jury executioner- My 2 cents - NOT EVEN A JUDGE puts someone to death for assault.
I can assure you killing someone will haunt you much more than the *kitten* kicking you might get ...lol..
I doubt sexual assault survivors appreciate your humor.12 -
bigmuneymfp wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »Me too!
It's the smell of burnt propellant in the air that makes the magic happen.
The smell of hoppes #9 does it for me!
Yankee needs to make a candle, or I'm just going to start sticking some reeds in a bottle of Hoppes.0 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »Me too!
It's the smell of burnt propellant in the air that makes the magic happen.
The smell of hoppes #9 does it for me!
Yankee needs to make a candle, or I'm just going to start sticking some reeds in a bottle of Hoppes.
Well, sites that sell fragrance oils for crafters have one called "Dirt" (and yes, it smells exactly like freshly turned soil and is popular to use in shampoo and stuff for hunters) so maybe they have one that smells like Hoppes.0 -
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I doubt sexual assault survivors appreciate your humor.[/quote]
No humor was meant in my post just trying to keep her out of jail for killing someone illegally and sexual assault is a CLOSE encounter NOT the distance comment she made I replied too.. For the record I own 27 pistols, rifles, bows and a Gamo Pellet gun..0 -
Michael190lbs wrote: »
I doubt sexual assault survivors appreciate your humor.
No humor was meant in my post just trying to keep her out of jail for killing someone illegally and sexual assault is a CLOSE encounter NOT the distance comment she made I replied too.. For the record I own 27 pistols, rifles, bows and a Gamo Pellet gun..
In many places it is legal to use lethal force in defense of yourself if you have reasonable fear of death, serious bodily injury, rape or kidnapping in any place you can legally be.
OP is likely well aware of the law where she lives.
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@msdemeanor70 wrote: »I carry a Ruger SR22 and wear Undertech Undercover compression shorts when I'm runing a new route.
Honestly, I've only carried in shoulder holsters as I carried big magnums (my concern was bears, not humans).
I was looking these Undertech Undercover shorts. It is an interesting concept, but doesn't the handgun bulge under your shirt & shorts at all when you are running?
I couldn't find pictures of people carrying in these that were actually clothes, just half naked models with the gun in plain view
Might have to get these though. I like the concept. I'm just curious what it looks like when someone has clothes over these.
Mine is easily covered by a t-shirt when I run. I do not wear shorts over them. They are compression and hold very close to the body. I have not worn them under jeans or pants as I have a Fobus Universal and an old shoulder holder when I feel the need.0 -
I came in to this thread as an Australian with no idea what you were on about. I'm glad I don't need to know...5
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Police are taught to stand at least 15' away from a suspect who may have a weapon in order to draw their gun if that suspect charges.
If you're out running, just wondering how people would have the reflexes UNTRAINED to pull their gun out fast enough on someone sneaking up on you?
I'm not against guns and fully support the 2nd amendment, but I think many people may be thinking that just carrying a gun is going to keep them much safer when that may not entirely be the case.
Wouldn't the better options to be safer: running with someone, running in a safer area even if you have to drive there, run with a dog, etc.
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THIS. Personally I think a knife would be easier to use and is usually enough of a deterrent against an assailant.StarvingDiva wrote: »Listen, I would never belittle the efforts of any woman who wanted to take measures to protect herself.
I just think that, unless you are fairly experienced with being in a threatening situation, you want the thing that is easiest to use.
Pretty hard to aim a pistol when you are shaking, let alone unsnap it from your holster that is in the back of your sports bra.
**I don't know too many people who feel comfortable carrying concealed without training.
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I haven't seen Lethal Lace mentioned so I'll throw it out there. I haven't used it but it looks interesting and very flexible. I'm just not sure how easy it would be to draw with it and I've never seen it in person. That little carry pack looked very interesting!
I do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, kickboxing and carry because we have wild life here that I don't want to try to choke. A bear is a little out of my weight class.
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Like many martial arts, LIVE reality is much different than "prepared" training and situations. Watch the disarming of a knife wielder in "practice" then watch it be applied to someone in real life. It NEVER turns out like in practice. That's why your best effort should be in getting away first and foremost. Hell if you're running, out run them.VioletRojo wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Tomk652015 wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »Um.....Why wouldn't you just carry mace?
Easier to carry, and a good shot of mace to the face will keep you as safe as a gun.
lol ever spray someone and have it blow back in your face?
Ah. No
But we were just talking about Plaxico, so.......What's your point? A gun is foolproof?
Riiiight...
have a red laser dot in your eye and see if you may want to rethink your actions
Listen, I would never belittle the efforts of any woman who wanted to take measures to protect herself.
I just think that, unless you are fairly experienced with being in a threatening situation, you want the thing that is easiest to use.
Pretty hard to aim a pistol when you are shaking, let alone unsnap it from your holster that is in the back of your sports bra.
Bra holsters aren't in the back of your bra, they are front and center and very easy to use. You assume that people who carry don't train. I don't know anyone who doesn't train with their guns. I take at least two classes each year, plus I compete monthly.
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southrnchic479 wrote: »Just wondering if anyone has found any cute Capri length workout pants or tops or if anyone has any general suggestions on ways to conceal carry while going for a walk or jog. Luckily mine is pretty tiny so it lends itself to being easily concealed but obviously I'd like it easily accessible too! Sorry if this is the wrong board to be posting in - let me know if so and I will move it to the appropriate board! Thanks!
I use my IWB desantis holster for my glock 26 regardless of the clothing. Although, it really should be worn with a belt.
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IMO, be the person no one wants. Spray this on you and you should be fine:
This stuff reeks and I promise, people will veer away.
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