!!!!Pasta!!!!
Commander_Keen
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So...
There is this guy at work who is a "nutritionist" who says pasta is bad for you, its harder to burn pasta off once its in your system.
1 - Is there anything else other than a calorie is a calorie, that I can say to him, to show him he's full of crap.
2 - Are there any profiles with before and after photo's with pasta in their diets, that have lost tons of weight.
Me personally I lost 10 lbs with pasta in my diet. but I don't think that will cut it.
Any help would be greatly appreciative
There is this guy at work who is a "nutritionist" who says pasta is bad for you, its harder to burn pasta off once its in your system.
1 - Is there anything else other than a calorie is a calorie, that I can say to him, to show him he's full of crap.
2 - Are there any profiles with before and after photo's with pasta in their diets, that have lost tons of weight.
Me personally I lost 10 lbs with pasta in my diet. but I don't think that will cut it.
Any help would be greatly appreciative
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Oh, brother.
I lost 70 pounds ten years ago and I've kept it off. I eat pasta, white bread, rice, crackers, cereal, ice cream, pizza, french fries, cookies, pie, blah blah blah ad infinitum.
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and it annoys the pig.22 -
I personally don't waste my time trying to convince others. Their opinion isn't my problem. As long as I know what's right and what works for me, I pretty much dismiss them. Not meaning to sound snarky or rude by any means.
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I would personally just let what he says go in one ear and out the other. You've proven that you can lose weight without his "advice", all the while eating pasta. So just let it roll off your back and keep doing what you do. Why the need to prove him wrong?1
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I have always had pasta in my diet lost lots of weight
My story here http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10386176/the-story-so-far-healthy-bmi-now-still-not-finished#latest and that was a year ago lost another 6.5 kg since0 -
A pasta carbohydrate gram is 4 calories just like any other carbohydrate gram. However, if you refrigerate the cooked pasta for 12 hours the pasta becomes resistant to digestion in your stomach and small intestine, effectively becoming 0 calories for you, the human, and 4 calories for the bacteria of your biome living in your large intestine. The paste becomes a pre-biotic food.3
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It amazes me how people point to just one thing and say "this is good or this is bad" our bodies are so much more complex than anyone realizes and its silly to think that doing just one thing over another will make any difference.
But agree with everyone else, don't pay any attention to it, if what you are doing is working and, more importantly, you feel good and healthy, then everything else is noise.0 -
My background is Italian so pasta is a huge staple in our family.. a few times a week. I haven't had any issues with weightloss.. I also bulk with lots of pasta, sugar, carbs you name it in my diet and my fat gains have been pretty minimal to say the least.
But ya I would just ignore it. Or tell him to book a trip to Italy to see for himself what people look like who eat pasta regularly 0 -
I wouldn't bother getting into the "debate" with him either. Some battles just aren't worth your energy.
I've lost over 100 pounds so far and I eat pasta ... and bread ... and chips ... and fries ... and potatoes ... and candy ... and doughnuts ... and you get the picture
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A health 'coach' told me last week that it's harder for your body to absorb carbs from cold pasta. The recommended that I cook said pasta and put it in the fridge and eat it cold vs hot...2
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I'm just curious. Ask what ingredient in pasta is it that makes it so harmful? I bet he doesn't know what most pasta is made of.0
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People in Italy have been eating pasta and bread frequently for ages. The difference is they tend to eat it in smaller portions and live a more active lifestyle. Just like people in Japan eat rice and noodles. And there are probably plenty of other traditional cultures you can think of that have evil carbs as a foundation of their diet. The variable is in volume and lifestyle.3
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I eat pasta at least 5 times a week maybe that's why I am fat0
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A health 'coach' told me last week that it's harder for your body to absorb carbs from cold pasta. The recommended that I cook said pasta and put it in the fridge and eat it cold vs hot...
I remember reading about that awhile ago. Supposedly when you cook a starchy carb and then refrigerate it, it forms some I think it was called resistant starches, which supposedly almost act like insoluble fiber and go right through your digestive system. I doubt it makes a measurable difference, but if it means I can call my pasta and potato salad healthy, I'm in
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It's harder for me to burn off pasta because I have a tendency to eat it in large quantities with lots of butter, cream and cheese. And when I'm eating cold pasta for the resistant starch, I tend to eat it in the form of a macaroni salad with tons of mayo or something similar, also in overly large quantities. This may possibly be a self control issue and not necessarily entirely the fault of the pasta itself.2
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I have a similar "nutritionist" in my office. I just silently eyeroll and continue on lol Annoying af tho1
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JeromeBarry1 wrote: »A pasta carbohydrate gram is 4 calories just like any other carbohydrate gram. However, if you refrigerate the cooked pasta for 12 hours the pasta becomes resistant to digestion in your stomach and small intestine, effectively becoming 0 calories for you, the human, and 4 calories for the bacteria of your biome living in your large intestine. The paste becomes a pre-biotic food.
Umm.... I'm having a little trouble believing that refrigerating cooked pasta for twelve hours magically makes it calorie-free. Care to share some peer reviewed articles proving this? I'd love to read them.4 -
I'd take ramen and eat it in front of him daily 0
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I eat pasta probably 5-6 nights a week and I'm down 11.5lbs - I weigh out a portion, and log it - but there is nothing inheritantly wrong with pasta (or carbs for that fact)1
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Tell him pasta is pretty satiating for the calories (at least to me it is) and it helps you stick to your diet, which is better than inconsistent haphazard dieting. Making it about you is less likely to cause push back. Arguing with these types is pointless. For what it's worth, I'm down 120 lbs and I've eaten pasta often.2
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Wynterbourne wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »A pasta carbohydrate gram is 4 calories just like any other carbohydrate gram. However, if you refrigerate the cooked pasta for 12 hours the pasta becomes resistant to digestion in your stomach and small intestine, effectively becoming 0 calories for you, the human, and 4 calories for the bacteria of your biome living in your large intestine. The paste becomes a pre-biotic food.
Umm.... I'm having a little trouble believing that refrigerating cooked pasta for twelve hours magically makes it calorie-free. Care to share some peer reviewed articles proving this? I'd love to read them.
Look it up. Amylase starch converts at low temperatures. It happens in pasta and rice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistant_starch0 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »Umm.... I'm having a little trouble believing that refrigerating cooked pasta for twelve hours magically makes it calorie-free. Care to share some peer reviewed articles proving this? I'd love to read them.
I think it makes it lower on the glycemic index but it doesn't make it calorie free.
https://www.sciencealert.com/heating-your-pasta-makes-it-significantly-better-for-you4 -
I eat a lot of spaghetti. A large part of my motivation to stay on OMAD is so I can eat ALL the pasta. I eat large quantities of pasta multiple times a week. I've also lost 85lbs in the last 7 and a half months.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10521246/53-progress-224-157-and-still-going-bragpost-indulging-my-vanity#latest
^ my progress thread. Last update was 142lbs. Currently 139lbs. Formerly 224lbs. I ate a lot of pasta between all those photos.1 -
I used to eat cold pasta for lunch a few months ago, I assure you it has calories lol1
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Wynterbourne wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »A pasta carbohydrate gram is 4 calories just like any other carbohydrate gram. However, if you refrigerate the cooked pasta for 12 hours the pasta becomes resistant to digestion in your stomach and small intestine, effectively becoming 0 calories for you, the human, and 4 calories for the bacteria of your biome living in your large intestine. The paste becomes a pre-biotic food.
Umm.... I'm having a little trouble believing that refrigerating cooked pasta for twelve hours magically makes it calorie-free. Care to share some peer reviewed articles proving this? I'd love to read them.
I feel like there is no way it becomes zero calories. I eat a lot of leftovers -- when I make pasta, I typically make four servings, eat one right away, and then eat the others over subsequent days. I know this isn't scientific, but I feel like I would see and feel the results if those subsequent meals only had calories from the sauce, vegetables, whatever I had added to the pasta.
I would accept that there may be *some* reduction in calories, but zero just doesn't track with my (admittedly anecdotal) experience.2 -
Having pasta tonight (leftovers)! As tempted as I am to put the pasta down as 0 calories, I will not. *sigh*3
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JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »A pasta carbohydrate gram is 4 calories just like any other carbohydrate gram. However, if you refrigerate the cooked pasta for 12 hours the pasta becomes resistant to digestion in your stomach and small intestine, effectively becoming 0 calories for you, the human, and 4 calories for the bacteria of your biome living in your large intestine. The paste becomes a pre-biotic food.
Umm.... I'm having a little trouble believing that refrigerating cooked pasta for twelve hours magically makes it calorie-free. Care to share some peer reviewed articles proving this? I'd love to read them.
Look it up. Amylase starch converts at low temperatures. It happens in pasta and rice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistant_starch
That doesn't make it calorie-free and since when is Wikipedia a peer reviewed source?2 -
You should eat mostly pasta for a month and show him your weigh ins.0
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