Say goodbye to sugar
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I'm vegetarian. Most of my protein comes with carbs. A lot of my carbs (not necessarily the protein-laden ones) come with sugar. And the ones that don't (like nuts), yes, do have fat. Hasn't stopped me dropping 54 lbs, tho...9
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diannethegeek wrote: »ItsAllMental819 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OP, the ONLY rule to weight loss is to eat fewer calories than your body uses in a day. It doesn't matter (for weight loss) whether those calories are sugar, fats, carbs (which sugar is), or protein. It doesn't matter what time of day you eat those calories. It doesn't matter if you eat them all in one sitting, or in six different small meals per day.
ALL THAT MATTERS FOR WEIGHT LOSS IS EATING FEWER CALORIES PER DAY THAN YOUR BODY USES.
Good luck.
Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters. If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows. If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic... There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.
Now if your trying to lose fat and not muscle you need to eat enough protein so your not losing both or just muscle.
Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy... I always keep them under 45g daily & under 20g when cutting. Fat on the other hand I don't regulate but don't go out of control - just eat a lot of eggs and steak so it comes with the territory.
Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated but to each there own... Good luck to you in your journey.
I would like to see your citation about metabolism slowing if you eat all of your calories in the morning. Get hungry, lower energy, moody, those I can get behind. But how much does the metabolism slow and by what mechanism?
Overall, all that we know about the OP exists in a couple of threads here. In this particular thread we get:Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
This doesn't sound to me like someone who fully understands weight loss or good nutrition, which is why I've been so anxious to get them to come back and clarify their stance on cutting fats. I don't think it's out of the question to get back to the basics for this particular OP as @quiksylver296 has done in the post you quoted. I just don't get the hate for telling someone how weight loss occurs when the OP specifically stated how they think it occurs and was wrong. Information is good.
Overall I'm not agreeing with the OP... Just disagreeing with many of the responses - again everyone has their own opinions on what works & I have mine. I was speaking about sugars not fats as you've read in my first post.
There was no hate involved, just disagreement unlike the hate & those sayin I was just wrong in numerous responses to my post Yet, no one pointed out where I was wrong... just that apparently I didn't go with the flow so therefore I'm not liked.
I agree, information is good...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3374835/2 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »ItsAllMental819 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OP, the ONLY rule to weight loss is to eat fewer calories than your body uses in a day. It doesn't matter (for weight loss) whether those calories are sugar, fats, carbs (which sugar is), or protein. It doesn't matter what time of day you eat those calories. It doesn't matter if you eat them all in one sitting, or in six different small meals per day.
ALL THAT MATTERS FOR WEIGHT LOSS IS EATING FEWER CALORIES PER DAY THAN YOUR BODY USES.
Good luck.
Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters. If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows. If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic... There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.
Now if your trying to lose fat and not muscle you need to eat enough protein so your not losing both or just muscle.
Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy... I always keep them under 45g daily & under 20g when cutting. Fat on the other hand I don't regulate but don't go out of control - just eat a lot of eggs and steak so it comes with the territory.
Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated but to each there own... Good luck to you in your journey.
I would like to see your citation about metabolism slowing if you eat all of your calories in the morning. Get hungry, lower energy, moody, those I can get behind. But how much does the metabolism slow and by what mechanism?
Overall, all that we know about the OP exists in a couple of threads here. In this particular thread we get:Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
This doesn't sound to me like someone who fully understands weight loss or good nutrition, which is why I've been so anxious to get them to come back and clarify their stance on cutting fats. I don't think it's out of the question to get back to the basics for this particular OP as @quiksylver296 has done in the post you quoted. I just don't get the hate for telling someone how weight loss occurs when the OP specifically stated how they think it occurs and was wrong. Information is good.
Overall I'm not agreeing with the OP...
Perhaps that what caused the confusion. The posts you were responding to WERE responses to OP and pointing out that it's not healthy to cut out all fat and sugar. And you seemed to take issue with that.
You said:ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters.
Here you seem to think that people were saying nutrition doesn't matter for any purpose. No one was, period. It's a rather uncharitable assumption to make.If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows.
This has not been supported.If you eat all simple sugars...
This is an absurd strawman. Protein and fat (and vegetables, IMO, other than in extreme cases) are required for good nutrition. People even pointed this out in response to OP, as it's one reason why NO sugar and fat is a bad idea.
You for some reason ignored the actual discussion and what was being said, the context, and went off about how nutrition matters, getting enough protein matters, as if people were saying otherwise, and they were not. It's a misreading of the conversation and, again, an uncharitable one.Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy...
Cutting out all sugars would mean cutting out vegetables. Bad idea, IMO. And you yourself acknowledge that of course you consume sugar. No one has said that it's a bad idea to cut down on or limit sugar.Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated
Again, who is this OP that you refer to, because the only OP in this thread said 0 about focusing on macros for health. She said cut out sugar (not a macro, as I'm assuming that she did not mean all carbs), and fat (yes, a macro). If one cared about macros for health, one would absolutely not say cut out all fat and sugar. One would say get enough fat for your goals and stats and enough protein for you and your goals and stats, and carbs as remain, or some such. Focus on what leads to satiety for you, too.
However, since I am not IIFYM, particularly, I have to point out that the importance of macros is grossly overestimated for most people. There is a huge range of good, reasonable macro ratios, healthy human diets vary enormously on that point. Even for people trying to lose weight, I think protein ought to hit a certain level (to protect against muscle loss), but there's a huge range of options even so. For fat and carbs I think WHAT fat and carbs you eat matters more than how much of each, for most people. (For other things, like satiety and satisfaction, it may matter a great deal, but that's individual.)There was no hate involved, just disagreement unlike the hate & those sayin I was just wrong in numerous responses to my post
Disagreement does not mean hate. I don't perceive anyone to be hating you.
This is 3 meals vs. 14 meals. How does it relate to the claim that eating just a morning meal reduces metabolism, which is what you asserted before?8 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »ItsAllMental819 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »ItsAllMental819 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OP, the ONLY rule to weight loss is to eat fewer calories than your body uses in a day. It doesn't matter (for weight loss) whether those calories are sugar, fats, carbs (which sugar is), or protein. It doesn't matter what time of day you eat those calories. It doesn't matter if you eat them all in one sitting, or in six different small meals per day.
ALL THAT MATTERS FOR WEIGHT LOSS IS EATING FEWER CALORIES PER DAY THAN YOUR BODY USES.
Good luck.
Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters. If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows. If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic... There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.
Now if your trying to lose fat and not muscle you need to eat enough protein so your not losing both or just muscle.
Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy... I always keep them under 45g daily & under 20g when cutting. Fat on the other hand I don't regulate but don't go out of control - just eat a lot of eggs and steak so it comes with the territory.
Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated but to each there own... Good luck to you in your journey.
I would like to see your citation about metabolism slowing if you eat all of your calories in the morning. Get hungry, lower energy, moody, those I can get behind. But how much does the metabolism slow and by what mechanism?
Overall, all that we know about the OP exists in a couple of threads here. In this particular thread we get:Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
This doesn't sound to me like someone who fully understands weight loss or good nutrition, which is why I've been so anxious to get them to come back and clarify their stance on cutting fats. I don't think it's out of the question to get back to the basics for this particular OP as @quiksylver296 has done in the post you quoted. I just don't get the hate for telling someone how weight loss occurs when the OP specifically stated how they think it occurs and was wrong. Information is good.
Overall I'm not agreeing with the OP...
Perhaps that what caused the confusion. The posts you were responding to WERE responses to OP and pointing out that it's not healthy to cut out all fat and sugar. And you seemed to take issue with that.
You said:ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters.
Here you seem to think that people were saying nutrition doesn't matter for any purpose. No one was, period. It's a rather uncharitable assumption to make.If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows.
This has not been supported.If you eat all simple sugars...
This is an absurd strawman. Protein and fat (and vegetables, IMO, other than in extreme cases) are required for good nutrition. People even pointed this out in response to OP, as it's one reason why NO sugar and fat is a bad idea.
You for some reason ignored the actual discussion and what was being said, the context, and went off about how nutrition matters, getting enough protein matters, as if people were saying otherwise, and they were not. It's a misreading of the conversation and, again, an uncharitable one.Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy...
Cutting out all sugars would mean cutting out vegetables. Bad idea, IMO. And you yourself acknowledge that of course you consume sugar. No one has said that it's a bad idea to cut down on or limit sugar.Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated
Again, who is this OP that you refer to, because the only OP in this thread said 0 about focusing on macros for health. She said cut out sugar (not a macro, as I'm assuming that she did not mean all carbs), and fat (yes, a macro). If one cared about macros for health, one would absolutely not say cut out all fat and sugar. One would say get enough fat for your goals and stats and enough protein for you and your goals and stats, and carbs as remain, or some such. Focus on what leads to satiety for you, too.
However, since I am not IIFYM, particularly, I have to point out that the importance of macros is grossly overestimated for most people. There is a huge range of good, reasonable macro ratios, healthy human diets vary enormously on that point. Even for people trying to lose weight, I think protein ought to hit a certain level (to protect against muscle loss), but there's a huge range of options even so. For fat and carbs I think WHAT fat and carbs you eat matters more than how much of each, for most people. (For other things, like satiety and satisfaction, it may matter a great deal, but that's individual.)There was no hate involved, just disagreement unlike the hate & those sayin I was just wrong in numerous responses to my post
Disagreement does not mean hate. I don't perceive anyone to be hating you.
This is 3 meals vs. 14 meals. How does it relate to the claim that eating just a morning meal reduces metabolism, which is what you asserted before?
Not only is it 3 vs. 14, the 3 meals group had increased metabolism.9 -
stevencloser wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »ItsAllMental819 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »ItsAllMental819 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OP, the ONLY rule to weight loss is to eat fewer calories than your body uses in a day. It doesn't matter (for weight loss) whether those calories are sugar, fats, carbs (which sugar is), or protein. It doesn't matter what time of day you eat those calories. It doesn't matter if you eat them all in one sitting, or in six different small meals per day.
ALL THAT MATTERS FOR WEIGHT LOSS IS EATING FEWER CALORIES PER DAY THAN YOUR BODY USES.
Good luck.
Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters. If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows. If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic... There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.
Now if your trying to lose fat and not muscle you need to eat enough protein so your not losing both or just muscle.
Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy... I always keep them under 45g daily & under 20g when cutting. Fat on the other hand I don't regulate but don't go out of control - just eat a lot of eggs and steak so it comes with the territory.
Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated but to each there own... Good luck to you in your journey.
I would like to see your citation about metabolism slowing if you eat all of your calories in the morning. Get hungry, lower energy, moody, those I can get behind. But how much does the metabolism slow and by what mechanism?
Overall, all that we know about the OP exists in a couple of threads here. In this particular thread we get:Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
This doesn't sound to me like someone who fully understands weight loss or good nutrition, which is why I've been so anxious to get them to come back and clarify their stance on cutting fats. I don't think it's out of the question to get back to the basics for this particular OP as @quiksylver296 has done in the post you quoted. I just don't get the hate for telling someone how weight loss occurs when the OP specifically stated how they think it occurs and was wrong. Information is good.
Overall I'm not agreeing with the OP...
Perhaps that what caused the confusion. The posts you were responding to WERE responses to OP and pointing out that it's not healthy to cut out all fat and sugar. And you seemed to take issue with that.
You said:ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters.
Here you seem to think that people were saying nutrition doesn't matter for any purpose. No one was, period. It's a rather uncharitable assumption to make.If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows.
This has not been supported.If you eat all simple sugars...
This is an absurd strawman. Protein and fat (and vegetables, IMO, other than in extreme cases) are required for good nutrition. People even pointed this out in response to OP, as it's one reason why NO sugar and fat is a bad idea.
You for some reason ignored the actual discussion and what was being said, the context, and went off about how nutrition matters, getting enough protein matters, as if people were saying otherwise, and they were not. It's a misreading of the conversation and, again, an uncharitable one.Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy...
Cutting out all sugars would mean cutting out vegetables. Bad idea, IMO. And you yourself acknowledge that of course you consume sugar. No one has said that it's a bad idea to cut down on or limit sugar.Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated
Again, who is this OP that you refer to, because the only OP in this thread said 0 about focusing on macros for health. She said cut out sugar (not a macro, as I'm assuming that she did not mean all carbs), and fat (yes, a macro). If one cared about macros for health, one would absolutely not say cut out all fat and sugar. One would say get enough fat for your goals and stats and enough protein for you and your goals and stats, and carbs as remain, or some such. Focus on what leads to satiety for you, too.
However, since I am not IIFYM, particularly, I have to point out that the importance of macros is grossly overestimated for most people. There is a huge range of good, reasonable macro ratios, healthy human diets vary enormously on that point. Even for people trying to lose weight, I think protein ought to hit a certain level (to protect against muscle loss), but there's a huge range of options even so. For fat and carbs I think WHAT fat and carbs you eat matters more than how much of each, for most people. (For other things, like satiety and satisfaction, it may matter a great deal, but that's individual.)There was no hate involved, just disagreement unlike the hate & those sayin I was just wrong in numerous responses to my post
Disagreement does not mean hate. I don't perceive anyone to be hating you.
This is 3 meals vs. 14 meals. How does it relate to the claim that eating just a morning meal reduces metabolism, which is what you asserted before?
Not only is it 3 vs. 14, the 3 meals group had increased metabolism.
What if I do two meals a day? Even better?0 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »ItsAllMental819 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OP, the ONLY rule to weight loss is to eat fewer calories than your body uses in a day. It doesn't matter (for weight loss) whether those calories are sugar, fats, carbs (which sugar is), or protein. It doesn't matter what time of day you eat those calories. It doesn't matter if you eat them all in one sitting, or in six different small meals per day.
ALL THAT MATTERS FOR WEIGHT LOSS IS EATING FEWER CALORIES PER DAY THAN YOUR BODY USES.
Good luck.
Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters. If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows. If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic... There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.
Now if your trying to lose fat and not muscle you need to eat enough protein so your not losing both or just muscle.
Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy... I always keep them under 45g daily & under 20g when cutting. Fat on the other hand I don't regulate but don't go out of control - just eat a lot of eggs and steak so it comes with the territory.
Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated but to each there own... Good luck to you in your journey.
I would like to see your citation about metabolism slowing if you eat all of your calories in the morning. Get hungry, lower energy, moody, those I can get behind. But how much does the metabolism slow and by what mechanism?
Overall, all that we know about the OP exists in a couple of threads here. In this particular thread we get:Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
This doesn't sound to me like someone who fully understands weight loss or good nutrition, which is why I've been so anxious to get them to come back and clarify their stance on cutting fats. I don't think it's out of the question to get back to the basics for this particular OP as @quiksylver296 has done in the post you quoted. I just don't get the hate for telling someone how weight loss occurs when the OP specifically stated how they think it occurs and was wrong. Information is good.
Overall I'm not agreeing with the OP... Just disagreeing with many of the responses - again everyone has their own opinions on what works & I have mine. I was speaking about sugars not fats as you've read in my first post.
There was no hate involved, just disagreement unlike the hate & those sayin I was just wrong in numerous responses to my post Yet, no one pointed out where I was wrong... just that apparently I didn't go with the flow so therefore I'm not liked.
I agree, information is good...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3374835/
I am glad to see you linking to peer-reviewed journal articles, but this article contradicts your claim that eating all of your calories at 8am slows your metabolism. From the article conclusion:
"RMR [resting metabolic rate] and appetite control increased in the LFr [low-frequency] diet."
If you want to extrapolate their conclusion to interpret how 1 meal a day (versus several meals per day) will affect metabolism, you would have to conclude that 1 meal a day would increase metabolism. You would also have to ignore that RMR is not exactly the same thing as metabolism, and that they did not test 1 meal per day. There are other papers that you could have linked to that show a slight decrease in RMR for LFr diet, but modern meta-analyses show that meal timing is just not very significant.12 -
youchristinaki89 wrote: »Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
the biggest reason you gain weight is from overeating, not because of sugar or fats. #getreal3 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters.ItsAllMental819 wrote: »If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows.ItsAllMental819 wrote: »If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic...ItsAllMental819 wrote: »There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Now if your trying to lose fat and not muscle you need to eat enough protein so your not losing both or just muscle.ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy... I always keep them under 45g daily & under 20g when cutting. Fat on the other hand I don't regulate but don't go out of control - just eat a lot of eggs and steak so it comes with the territory.ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated but to each there own... Good luck to you in your journey.6
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Yinz spend a lot of time here... But I appreciate the responses... Please read the entire study - Its actually 12 meals vs 2 & talks about insulin and metabolic responses. It never said that 3 meals a day had increased metabolism also. They incorporated other info within their work.
Again, when did I say cut ALL sugars? Said cutting down simple sugars is healthy... I love me some fruit & veggies and they are low calorie.
Thanks again all.2 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Yinz spend a lot of time here... But I appreciate the responses... Please read the entire study - Its actually 12 meals vs 2 & talks about insulin and metabolic responses. It never said that 3 meals a day had increased metabolism also. They incorporated other info within their work.
Again, when did I say cut ALL sugars? Said cutting down simple sugars is healthy... I love me some fruit & veggies and they are low calorie.
Thanks again all.
I think for most, it comes down to personal preference and what they can stick to long term (within reason). I mean at some level, regardless of what you believe, you have to eat responsibly. Eat a wide variety of food, get your nutrition, maintain a deficit if fat loss is your goal, exercise and get plenty of rest.4 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OP, the ONLY rule to weight loss is to eat fewer calories than your body uses in a day. It doesn't matter (for weight loss) whether those calories are sugar, fats, carbs (which sugar is), or protein. It doesn't matter what time of day you eat those calories. It doesn't matter if you eat them all in one sitting, or in six different small meals per day.
ALL THAT MATTERS FOR WEIGHT LOSS IS EATING FEWER CALORIES PER DAY THAN YOUR BODY USES.
Good luck.
Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters. If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows. If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic... There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.
Wrong. You do NOT become diabetic because of what you eat. You become diabetic because the beta cells in your pancreas are no longer working properly to produce insulin (some will be resistant to the insulin produced). Why does this happen? Genetics, obesity, age, Mom had Gestational diabetes when carrying you, you have been taking statins or certain antidepressants long term, and several other risk factors. Eating carbs does NOT contribute to it except where it adds to excess calories which increases weight.
Unfortunately, people assume that, because the treatment is limiting carbs, carbs are the cause. They are not.
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diannethegeek wrote: »ItsAllMental819 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OP, the ONLY rule to weight loss is to eat fewer calories than your body uses in a day. It doesn't matter (for weight loss) whether those calories are sugar, fats, carbs (which sugar is), or protein. It doesn't matter what time of day you eat those calories. It doesn't matter if you eat them all in one sitting, or in six different small meals per day.
ALL THAT MATTERS FOR WEIGHT LOSS IS EATING FEWER CALORIES PER DAY THAN YOUR BODY USES.
Good luck.
Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters. If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows. If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic... There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.
Now if your trying to lose fat and not muscle you need to eat enough protein so your not losing both or just muscle.
Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy... I always keep them under 45g daily & under 20g when cutting. Fat on the other hand I don't regulate but don't go out of control - just eat a lot of eggs and steak so it comes with the territory.
Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated but to each there own... Good luck to you in your journey.
I would like to see your citation about metabolism slowing if you eat all of your calories in the morning. Get hungry, lower energy, moody, those I can get behind. But how much does the metabolism slow and by what mechanism?
Overall, all that we know about the OP exists in a couple of threads here. In this particular thread we get:Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
This doesn't sound to me like someone who fully understands weight loss or good nutrition, which is why I've been so anxious to get them to come back and clarify their stance on cutting fats. I don't think it's out of the question to get back to the basics for this particular OP as @quiksylver296 has done in the post you quoted. I just don't get the hate for telling someone how weight loss occurs when the OP specifically stated how they think it occurs and was wrong. Information is good.
Thanks for arguing my poing, @diannethegeek, @nutmegoreo, and everyone else. I was at the gym, and then busy making Cadbury mini-eggs fit in my macros for the day.
(Yep, I eat IIFYM, but I still know it all comes down to CICO, @ItsAllMental819. )2 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Yinz spend a lot of time here... But I appreciate the responses... Please read the entire study - Its actually 12 meals vs 2 & talks about insulin and metabolic responses. It never said that 3 meals a day had increased metabolism also. They incorporated other info within their work.
Again, when did I say cut ALL sugars? Said cutting down simple sugars is healthy... I love me some fruit & veggies and they are low calorie.
Thanks again all.
the thing is sugar = sugar; source does not matter...
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christinaki89 wrote: »Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
You have fun with that.
You will have to pry them from my cold dead hands.5 -
Gave up sugar...but not fat or liquor. I lost 80 pounds in 18 months anyway just counting the calories.
Calories in < calories out = weight loss.
Simple math really.0 -
Tweaking_Time wrote: »Gave up sugar...but not fat or liquor. I lost 80 pounds in 18 months anyway just counting the calories.
Calories in < calories out = weight loss.
Simple math really.
Any alcohol diet is okay in my book0 -
Tweaking_Time wrote: »Gave up sugar...but not fat or liquor. I lost 80 pounds in 18 months anyway just counting the calories.
Calories in < calories out = weight loss.
Simple math really.
Noooo!!! Sugar turns to fat even on a 900 calorie diet.
Ummmm but he lost 80 pounds whilst drinking alcohol ... so winner0 -
christinaki89 wrote: »Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
@christinaki89 saying goodbye to sugar and grain was a lifesaver for me at the age of 63. I however did add a lot of plant based fats like coconut oil and olive oil and naturally got away from animal protein except for fish.
https://amazon.com/Licking-Sweet-Death-Information-Sugarcoating/dp/1608604756
I just got my copy of Licking Sweet Death by Hugo Rodier, MD from Utah USA. It is based on solid scientific research and has 67 pages at the end with just the references clearly stated.
For about $12 I got a used copy but never used copy in just two days with Prime.-2 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Again, when did I say cut ALL sugars?
OP is the one who said that. So cutting all sugar (and all fat) was the topic of the thread.
Again, the topic is not whether cutting down on certain kinds of sugar (while not cutting down on fat or some such) might be healthy. If you eat lots of extra sugar or an unbalanced diet, of course it is. But that's not what everyone was discussing, was it?0
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