Opinions wanted - certain foods causing belly fat - even in the underweight?

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  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »
    mohamedahmed07 wrote: »
    katadx wrote: »
    So I have a stubborn little bit of fat over my abs. I can see the outline of them - but if I do a quick jump in front of the mirror I can see a layer around my belly button jiggle. After a quick google search before hopping on here to gather opinions, I found a random thread of sparkpeople http://www.sparkpeople.com/ma/Petite-girl-(underweight)-with-belly-fat/7/1/21874817 Note: Link breaks
    Where people say that certain foods (carbs, sugar, anything processed) will cause fat gain and cause it to collect in certain areas. What is your opinion of this? I am very frustrated to be collecting a little fat in this area. I am 5'7" 115 lbs. I know part of this can be attributed to just being a woman, but I'm really looking to shred down this area. My doctor says I shouldn't lose any weight though. I've looked into recomp, but I'm looking for opinions just on the 'cut X food because it causes fat to 'move' and 'collect' in the belly area.'

    carbs, sugar, insulin spikes usually cause bloating in the belly , if you go on a low carb diet it will decrease your belly size a lot after 3weeks, but it's mostly from water not from fat. when you eat carbs again it will bloat once again, so what you need to do is to lose a little bit of fat percentage to get rid of the belly fat, stick to a diet with a caloric deficit and keep your carb intake to about 25-30%

    You do realise that protein also causes an insulin spike?

    Good point. And not only does protein cause insulin spikes, it causes insulin spikes that are almost identical to those caused by carbs. Krieger goes over that in detail in the research review I linked in my previous post above.

    It's also worth noting that insulin is a highly anabolic hormone - bodybuilders sometimes supplement with extrinsic, supraphysiological amounts of insulin to increase their muscle gains, so it's not like insulin is the enemy to be avoided at all costs.
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »
    mohamedahmed07 wrote: »
    katadx wrote: »
    So I have a stubborn little bit of fat over my abs. I can see the outline of them - but if I do a quick jump in front of the mirror I can see a layer around my belly button jiggle. After a quick google search before hopping on here to gather opinions, I found a random thread of sparkpeople http://www.sparkpeople.com/ma/Petite-girl-(underweight)-with-belly-fat/7/1/21874817 Note: Link breaks
    Where people say that certain foods (carbs, sugar, anything processed) will cause fat gain and cause it to collect in certain areas. What is your opinion of this? I am very frustrated to be collecting a little fat in this area. I am 5'7" 115 lbs. I know part of this can be attributed to just being a woman, but I'm really looking to shred down this area. My doctor says I shouldn't lose any weight though. I've looked into recomp, but I'm looking for opinions just on the 'cut X food because it causes fat to 'move' and 'collect' in the belly area.'

    carbs, sugar, insulin spikes usually cause bloating in the belly , if you go on a low carb diet it will decrease your belly size a lot after 3weeks, but it's mostly from water not from fat. when you eat carbs again it will bloat once again, so what you need to do is to lose a little bit of fat percentage to get rid of the belly fat, stick to a diet with a caloric deficit and keep your carb intake to about 25-30%

    You do realise that protein also causes an insulin spike?

    Good point. And not only does protein cause insulin spikes, it causes insulin spikes that are almost identical to those caused by carbs. Krieger goes over that in detail in the research review I linked in my previous post above.

    It's also worth noting that insulin is a highly anabolic hormone - bodybuilders sometimes supplement with extrinsic, supraphysiological amounts of insulin to increase their muscle gains, so it's not like insulin is the enemy to be avoided at all costs.

    I know.. insulin is always pinned as the bad guy. Very beneficial when gaining muscle.
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    It's also worth noting that some women just naturally have a little extra fat on their tummies even when trying to get lean and seeing that everywhere else. It's an evolutionary protect the baby making equipment thing.

    There is also of course, the possibility that you are seeing something that isn't there given your current weight but hopefully getting onto a plan that will help you achieve your aesthetic goals will rectify that.

    Recomp and reading up in the Gaining Weight section is a great idea and I'm glad you are open to going down that route.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,984 Member
    mohamedahmed07 wrote: »
    CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
    mohamedahmed07 wrote: »
    katadx wrote: »
    So I have a stubborn little bit of fat over my abs. I can see the outline of them - but if I do a quick jump in front of the mirror I can see a layer around my belly button jiggle. After a quick google search before hopping on here to gather opinions, I found a random thread of sparkpeople http://www.sparkpeople.com/ma/Petite-girl-(underweight)-with-belly-fat/7/1/21874817 Note: Link breaks
    Where people say that certain foods (carbs, sugar, anything processed) will cause fat gain and cause it to collect in certain areas. What is your opinion of this? I am very frustrated to be collecting a little fat in this area. I am 5'7" 115 lbs. I know part of this can be attributed to just being a woman, but I'm really looking to shred down this area. My doctor says I shouldn't lose any weight though. I've looked into recomp, but I'm looking for opinions just on the 'cut X food because it causes fat to 'move' and 'collect' in the belly area.'

    carbs, sugar, insulin spikes usually cause bloating in the belly , if you go on a low carb diet it will decrease your belly size a lot after 3weeks, but it's mostly from water not from fat. when you eat carbs again it will bloat once again, so what you need to do is to lose a little bit of fat percentage to get rid of the belly fat, stick to a diet with a caloric deficit and keep your carb intake to about 25-30%

    anything can cause bloating, its not just carbs(which are sugar), low carb diet does not guarantee anything when it comes to belly fat. you cannot spot reduce fat, please stop with the misinformation.how do you know if his/her belly fat is from water or other things? you dont.

    Welp, if you give it a try you will know what I'm talking about, people don't believe unless they try, water or not, insulin hormone places the fat around the waist (belly area) and lowering carbs, no sugars counters that until you load up carbs again
    Really? Where's your source for this?

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  • PinkamenaD8
    PinkamenaD8 Posts: 99 Member
    This is the spot fat reduction myth, our body has a genetic predisposition to store weight in certain areas. Where is stored first is the last place to go.

    Check this article OP http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/is-a-calorie-a-calorie.html/

    While different diets can work better for different people in many studies the source of the calories doesn't have consistent results, doesn't seem to play a major role in body composition as CICO.

    I agree @SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish you can look more toned if you work in gaining muscle.
    mohamedahmed07 wrote: »
    but people always stop you when you speak about the carbs they love and the donuts xD

    Lol, my carbs are oats, brown rice, fruits and veggies. It's true that you experience water retention when you're on a considerable cal deficit, see woosh effect, though I don't know if it has to do with carbs. And is also true that keto can eliminate the stored fluids. But to say that insulin plays a role in fat storage is off, it's only genetic predisposition, if you eat large amounts of cals in a keto diet you'll end with a fat belly too.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    PinkamenaD8 wrote: »
    This is the spot fat reduction myth, our body has a genetic predisposition to store weight in certain areas. Where is stored first is the last place to go.

    Check this article OP http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/is-a-calorie-a-calorie.html/

    While different diets can work better for different people in many studies the source of the calories doesn't have consistent results, doesn't seem to play a major role in body composition as CICO.

    I agree @SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish you can look more toned if you work in gaining muscle.
    mohamedahmed07 wrote: »
    but people always stop you when you speak about the carbs they love and the donuts xD

    Lol, my carbs are oats, brown rice, fruits and veggies. It's true that you experience water retention when you're on a considerable cal deficit, see woosh effect, though I don't know if it has to do with carbs. And is also true that keto can eliminate the stored fluids. But to say that insulin plays a role in fat storage is off, it's only genetic predisposition, if you eat large amounts of cals in a keto diet you'll end with a fat belly too.

    To true. I gained weight low carbing back in the day!

    I bought the line that I didn't need to worry about calories and I used to just eat too much food.
  • Tum22
    Tum22 Posts: 102 Member
    mohamedahmed07 wrote: »
    katadx wrote: »
    So I have a stubborn little bit of fat over my abs. I can see the outline of them - but if I do a quick jump in front of the mirror I can see a layer around my belly button jiggle. After a quick google search before hopping on here to gather opinions, I found a random thread of sparkpeople http://www.sparkpeople.com/ma/Petite-girl-(underweight)-with-belly-fat/7/1/21874817 Note: Link breaks
    Where people say that certain foods (carbs, sugar, anything processed) will cause fat gain and cause it to collect in certain areas. What is your opinion of this? I am very frustrated to be collecting a little fat in this area. I am 5'7" 115 lbs. I know part of this can be attributed to just being a woman, but I'm really looking to shred down this area. My doctor says I shouldn't lose any weight though. I've looked into recomp, but I'm looking for opinions just on the 'cut X food because it causes fat to 'move' and 'collect' in the belly area.'

    carbs, sugar, insulin spikes usually cause bloating in the belly , if you go on a low carb diet it will decrease your belly size a lot after 3weeks, but it's mostly from water not from fat. when you eat carbs again it will bloat once again, so what you need to do is to lose a little bit of fat percentage to get rid of the belly fat, stick to a diet with a caloric deficit and keep your carb intake to about 25-30%

    I would agree with this as started low carb a few weeks ago and lost a lot of bloating in the belly area. Also stress/cortisol causes fat to collect in the mid-section. Also the monthly hormones cause water retention.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    Tum22 wrote: »
    mohamedahmed07 wrote: »
    katadx wrote: »
    So I have a stubborn little bit of fat over my abs. I can see the outline of them - but if I do a quick jump in front of the mirror I can see a layer around my belly button jiggle. After a quick google search before hopping on here to gather opinions, I found a random thread of sparkpeople http://www.sparkpeople.com/ma/Petite-girl-(underweight)-with-belly-fat/7/1/21874817 Note: Link breaks
    Where people say that certain foods (carbs, sugar, anything processed) will cause fat gain and cause it to collect in certain areas. What is your opinion of this? I am very frustrated to be collecting a little fat in this area. I am 5'7" 115 lbs. I know part of this can be attributed to just being a woman, but I'm really looking to shred down this area. My doctor says I shouldn't lose any weight though. I've looked into recomp, but I'm looking for opinions just on the 'cut X food because it causes fat to 'move' and 'collect' in the belly area.'

    carbs, sugar, insulin spikes usually cause bloating in the belly , if you go on a low carb diet it will decrease your belly size a lot after 3weeks, but it's mostly from water not from fat. when you eat carbs again it will bloat once again, so what you need to do is to lose a little bit of fat percentage to get rid of the belly fat, stick to a diet with a caloric deficit and keep your carb intake to about 25-30%

    I would agree with this as started low carb a few weeks ago and lost a lot of bloating in the belly area. Also stress/cortisol causes fat to collect in the mid-section. Also the monthly hormones cause water retention.

    drinking more water can help with bloating from water retention believe it or not
  • crazyycatladyy1
    crazyycatladyy1 Posts: 156 Member
    edited May 2017
    CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
    mohamedahmed07 wrote: »
    katadx wrote: »
    So I have a stubborn little bit of fat over my abs. I can see the outline of them - but if I do a quick jump in front of the mirror I can see a layer around my belly button jiggle. After a quick google search before hopping on here to gather opinions, I found a random thread of sparkpeople http://www.sparkpeople.com/ma/Petite-girl-(underweight)-with-belly-fat/7/1/21874817 Note: Link breaks
    Where people say that certain foods (carbs, sugar, anything processed) will cause fat gain and cause it to collect in certain areas. What is your opinion of this? I am very frustrated to be collecting a little fat in this area. I am 5'7" 115 lbs. I know part of this can be attributed to just being a woman, but I'm really looking to shred down this area. My doctor says I shouldn't lose any weight though. I've looked into recomp, but I'm looking for opinions just on the 'cut X food because it causes fat to 'move' and 'collect' in the belly area.'

    carbs, sugar, insulin spikes usually cause bloating in the belly , if you go on a low carb diet it will decrease your belly size a lot after 3weeks, but it's mostly from water not from fat. when you eat carbs again it will bloat once again, so what you need to do is to lose a little bit of fat percentage to get rid of the belly fat, stick to a diet with a caloric deficit and keep your carb intake to about 25-30%

    anything can cause bloating, its not just carbs(which are sugar), low carb diet does not guarantee anything when it comes to belly fat. you cannot spot reduce fat, please stop with the misinformation.how do you know if his/her belly fat is from water or other things? you dont.

    Also people forget that food takes up actual room in your stomach. Think about what's on your plate-it has to go somewhere while it's breaking down/digesting. I eat a lot of vegetables, and after I eat one of my big salads I have a pronounced 'gut'. That's because I just dumped around 600g of veggies plus 100g of beans, black olives, salad dressing plus a beverage etc, into my body. It's got to go somewhere for a while. Has nothing to do with what I'm eating though.
  • Sp1tfire
    Sp1tfire Posts: 1,120 Member
    @crazyycatladyy1 thats a very good reminder I need to keep in mind! Thank you.
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    I've been keto and sometimes I'm just naturally lower carb. Rarely have I ever whooshed from reducing carbs in isolation nor do I experience much bloating from carbs. My stomach was/is equal regardless of the way I am eating as long as I am not overeating and drinking plenty.

    Other things cause it like hormonal changes because female, eating more than usual, flying (lost 4lbs this week from plane bloat). And at the end of the day my tummy is a bit larger than in the morning. Why? As above, there's a day of food in there!

    So some people experience bloating from carbs but it's very likely to actually be other things. And the keto whoosh levels off with some of that water retention being "regained" once the body adjusts.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I end up with what i call my food baby every night no matter what i eat! It's back down in the morning and the pot belly is back again in the evening, and round and round we go.
  • Sp1tfire
    Sp1tfire Posts: 1,120 Member
    Christine_72 wrote: »
    I end up with what i call my food baby every night no matter what i eat! It's back down in the morning and the pot belly is back again in the evening, and round and round we go.

    This happens to me too!
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