How dare these restaurant chains not post nutritional information?
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Most local restaurants that I go to change their menu on a regular (sometimes daily) basis. There is NO way they could ever list the nutritional information for each new menu item. In the end, it is up to you to make smart choices, based on your knowledge of food in general. It's YOUR responsibility, not theirs.5
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I actually agree with the OP. I get that it's expensive but people need to know. Anyone heard of Slim Chicken? People are OUTRAGED that the restaurant won't post their nutrition information. I went there once and won't go back because I have no idea how many calories I'm consuming.
More and more people are becoming calorie conscious so I think it makes good business sense, but if they don't want to post it they don't have to post it. I'll just move on to a restaurant who does (besides, Raising Canes is much better than Slim Chicken anyway )
You're OUTRAGED, really? Over what one business owner decides to do with their own business, when you're free to choose a product from any number of other businesses that also meet your criteria for the item you want to purchase? Doesn't OUTRAGE seem like a really excessive emotion in this case?4 -
Honestly, I don't think ANY restaurant should be forced to post the information. Let them if they want to, but to make it a law is reaching. If you want nutritional information, then just eat at places the have it. That is your right as a consumer. Let the market sort it all out.5
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More and more people are becoming calorie conscious so I think it makes good business sense, but if they don't want to post it they don't have to post it. I'll just move on to a restaurant who does (besides, Raising Canes is much better than Slim Chicken anyway )
i get the annoyance more if the place is focused on being health conscious, i don't know what "Slim Chicken" is but it sounds like it's marketing itself as a healthy-ish place. there's a place called "Grown" by me which is owned by ray allen (of the miami heat) and markets itself as a health place but doesn't have info about allergens and calories and that was a bit annoying. but i didn't know that the cost was prohibitive for a lot of places. duly noted.
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Slim Chicken is in no way marketing itself as healthy. I think they are dragging their heels because they don't want to admit just how many calories are in a few chicken tenders.0
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twistedingenue wrote: »Slim Chicken is in no way marketing itself as healthy. I think they are dragging their heels because they don't want to admit just how many calories are in a few chicken tenders.
gotcha, i got confused by the "slim"0 -
I actually agree with the OP. I get that it's expensive but people need to know. Anyone heard of Slim Chicken? People are OUTRAGED that the restaurant won't post their nutrition information. I went there once and won't go back because I have no idea how many calories I'm consuming.
More and more people are becoming calorie conscious so I think it makes good business sense, but if they don't want to post it they don't have to post it. I'll just move on to a restaurant who does (besides, Raising Canes is much better than Slim Chicken anyway )
I'm sure they'll do just fine without you...
I rarely go to chain restaurants and prefer local mom and pop shops because the food quality is typically better and I'm also pretty big on supporting local. I could care less if they have calorie information posted...I have common sense and can usually guestimate just fine. Plus, when I'm going out to eat, I'm going for entertainment/enjoyment...it's not a daily thing so I don't particularly worry about it.
And like I said before, if mom and pop shops were required to do this, there basically wouldn't be many local eateries at all...just institutionalized franchise food...6 -
How dare they do the same thing they have done since the beginning of recorded history.8
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It really doesn't cost that much money for you to have nutritional facts on your food in a restaurant. The guidelines for them aren't as strict as packaged food in a super market. You could easily get this from raw ingredients. Working in the restaurant industry you see it all the time, portions vary from cook to cook. A 500 calorie meal could jump up a few hundred calories just depending on who's working. Restaurants aren't reprimanded for this at all while say lays potato chips would be. I've literally had a manager use butter for weight watcher meals instead of the low calorie option cause it cuts down on food costs and they make big bonus's for stuff like that. This was in a big chain restaurants, lets call it crapplebee's.
The main issue lies in that it's time consuming and most restaurants aren't going to invest that time into doing this. Why? Well people who are going out to eat for the most part aren't worried about the calorie content of the meals. Sure they would change that if the majority of customers complained about it. It's different when its a chain and there are restaurants spread out nation wide.1 -
Haven't there always been build your own pizzas on the menus? I remember that option since I was a kid. My family usually got pepperoni, olives, mushrooms and then anchovies on half.0
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This is turning into a good debate: when should restaurants be required to post nutritional info? Here are some options
- Make it entirely voluntary (never required)
- Required it for chains selling standardized items (the current requirement for 20 or more locations)
- Require it for all restaurants, all meals
I wonder if restaurants should be allowed to do their own estimates listed as such. It is pretty easy to do that with a variety of online tools (including MFP).0 -
Note that at one time, fast-food and other restaurants weren't required to reveal their ingredients to the public. Check out the ingredients for McDonalds "fries:"
FRENCH FRIES:
Ingredients: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk Derivatives]*, Citric Acid [Preservative]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (Maintain Color), Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid added to preserve freshness), Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.0 -
I think it would depend on the requirements to establish - if they are providing a ballpark - i.e.
pizza a - 500-800cal (depending on customization) - all places could do this
pizza b - 564 cal (as written) - verified by an independent body - totally different story0 -
Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »This is turning into a good debate: when should restaurants be required to post nutritional info? Here are some options
- Make it entirely voluntary (never required)
- Required it for chains selling standardized items (the current requirement for 20 or more locations)
- Require it for all restaurants, all meals
I wonder if restaurants should be allowed to do their own estimates listed as such. It is pretty easy to do that with a variety of online tools (including MFP).
I think the way it is, is just fine...if you're a chain with more than 20 locations, you should have the resources whereby the requirement wouldn't be overbearing.
I don't think allowing a restaurant to just use a database like MFP would be any good...to be remotely accurate I think it needs to be sent to a lab as it is now. Even then there's a wide margin of error depending on who's cooking...the error rate just using some database would be even higher.
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Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »This is turning into a good debate: when should restaurants be required to post nutritional info? Here are some options
- Make it entirely voluntary (never required)
- Required it for chains selling standardized items (the current requirement for 20 or more locations)
- Require it for all restaurants, all meals
I wonder if restaurants should be allowed to do their own estimates listed as such. It is pretty easy to do that with a variety of online tools (including MFP).
voluntary ..
I don't want the government in my bedroom, dinner, personal life, etc...
People need to learn to use common sense and not turn to "big brother" government at every level of society...6 -
Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »Note that at one time, fast-food and other restaurants weren't required to reveal their ingredients to the public. Check out the ingredients for McDonalds "fries:"
FRENCH FRIES:
Ingredients: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk Derivatives]*, Citric Acid [Preservative]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (Maintain Color), Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid added to preserve freshness), Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
so what? Ever seen the ingredient list for a strawberry?5 -
Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »Note that at one time, fast-food and other restaurants weren't required to reveal their ingredients to the public. Check out the ingredients for McDonalds "fries:"
FRENCH FRIES:
Ingredients: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk Derivatives]*, Citric Acid [Preservative]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (Maintain Color), Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid added to preserve freshness), Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
meh, I don't have a problem with it..those ingredients serve purposes-
The sodium acid pyrophosphate and dextrose is also generally added to pre-chopped frozen potatoes you buy at the grocery as well. (keeps them from turning black, sticking to each other).The antifoaming agent is there as a safety measure for employees (reduced splatter, especially if those fries are frozen) - some other fast food places also add it to the oil. The seasonings many of us add have random flavorings.5 -
Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »Note that at one time, fast-food and other restaurants weren't required to reveal their ingredients to the public. Check out the ingredients for McDonalds "fries:"
FRENCH FRIES:
Ingredients: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk Derivatives]*, Citric Acid [Preservative]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (Maintain Color), Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid added to preserve freshness), Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
I have no idea why you have added scare quotes to fries here. Which of these ingredients concerns you? Which ones turn them from fries to "fries"?8 -
Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »This is turning into a good debate: when should restaurants be required to post nutritional info? Here are some options
- Make it entirely voluntary (never required)
- Required it for chains selling standardized items (the current requirement for 20 or more locations)
- Require it for all restaurants, all meals
I wonder if restaurants should be allowed to do their own estimates listed as such. It is pretty easy to do that with a variety of online tools (including MFP).10
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