Diary open am I eating right? I am not losing anymore!!

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  • paxbfl
    paxbfl Posts: 391 Member
    I am shooting at 1.5-2 lbs a week. I have not seen any change in about going on 2 weeks.

    I would set your goals for 1 pound a week. If you have a good week and lose a bit more, great. But you don't want to limit your calories so much that you slow your metabolism or feel like crap.

    Eat more, and you'll have more energy to fuel your workouts... you'll boost your metabolism... you'll burn more calories... you'll feel a lot better... and you'll lose weight. I know it sounds wrong to eat more to lose weight, but sometimes this is what you need to do!

    There's a group on MFP called "In place of a road map" that addresses this. Here's a link:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/975025-in-place-of-a-road-map-short-n-sweet?hl=in+place+of+a+road+map

    P.S. The Batman I know usually knows better than to jump into a tiger cage and get all the cats riled up. lol.
  • TeachTheGirl
    TeachTheGirl Posts: 2,091 Member
    I agree with reducing the amount you want to lose per week to one pound. Anything more seems excessive during this crucial growing period for your child.

    I suggest seeking support here too: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/214-breastfeeding-support
  • glassyo
    glassyo Posts: 7,757 Member


    But you will waste energy to call me a jerk? I did go back and read. It seems everyone is attacking me personally while I've maintained respect for everyone.

    Um, you told someone to relax and go eat a poptart. That's not all that respectful. You also said some other things but I'm too lazy/should be working to go back to quote them.

    OP, if you've set your profile on here to lose weight, you are DEFINITELY not eating enough since you still have a deficit on top of the deficit MFP already gives you. Even if you're adding in the breastfeeding as exercise, you're not eating the calories back that you're giving yourself. Eat more and make it nutritious for the baby's sake. You don't seem to be eating all that badly tho.

    I would say lay off the meal replacement shake but I bet you're already busy being a new mom and it's probably giving you vitamins you wouldn't normally have time to eat with real food.

    Did you ever answer the question about how long it's been since you've stopped losing weight because that initial 10 pounds in a couple months is pretty damned good and you can't really consider it a plateau until at least three weeks (at the minimum).

    Edited to say: And you did answer the question. It hasn't been long enough to be worried about it. It could be anything...sodium, the position of the moon, weighing yourself after having a bigger meal than usual....
  • HerpDerp745
    HerpDerp745 Posts: 223 Member
    P.S. The Batman I know usually knows better than to jump into a tiger cage and get all the cats riled up. lol.

    Because he's the hero MyFitnessPal deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.
  • HerpDerp745
    HerpDerp745 Posts: 223 Member


    But you will waste energy to call me a jerk? I did go back and read. It seems everyone is attacking me personally while I've maintained respect for everyone.

    Um, you told someone to relax and go eat a poptart. That's not all that respectful. You also said some other things but I'm too lazy/should be working to go back to quote them.

    I'm sorry, but what is wrong with pop tarts? I personally love them. How is this some how disrespectful? Also, if you should be working, I don't think you should have taken the time to write that large of a response.
  • WaterBunnie
    WaterBunnie Posts: 1,371 Member
    Surely it makes perfect sense that you need more calories to breastfeed if you just think how many are escaping contained within the milk sustaining another life? I always thought MFP had something in settings though that asked you whether you were nursing. If not, then it perhaps should so that you're striving for the right goal. 1200 certainly isn't enough for 2 of you!
  • glassyo
    glassyo Posts: 7,757 Member

    I'm sorry, but what is wrong with pop tarts? I personally love them. How is this some how disrespectful? Also, if you should be working, I don't think you should have taken the time to write that large of a response.

    Absolutely nothing! I eat a 60 calorie bag of them a day. I'll be really sad when they're discontinued and I have to go back to the 100 calorie bags. The smaller bags were PERFECT. But telling someone to relax and have a poptart comes off very...."go in the kitchen and make me a sandwich, woman!"esqe.

    And yes, I should be working. But no one else here is so while the cat's away....:smile:
  • P.S. The Batman I know usually knows better than to jump into a tiger cage and get all the cats riled up. lol.

    Because he's the hero MyFitnessPal deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.

    May I suggest you think of yourself as this, "FICTIONAL" character & keep the rest of your comments to yourself.
  • HerpDerp745
    HerpDerp745 Posts: 223 Member
    Absolutely nothing! I eat a 60 calorie bag of them a day. I'll be really sad when they're discontinued and I have to go back to the 100 calorie bags. The smaller bags were PERFECT. But telling someone to relax and have a poptart comes off very...."go in the kitchen and make me a sandwich, woman!"esqe.
    And yes, I should be working. But no one else here is so while the cat's away....:smile:

    I certainly didn't mean to come off as some male chauvinist. They called me an 'asshat', so I thought my response was respectful enough to ask them to calm down.
  • PepperWorm
    PepperWorm Posts: 1,206
    how long has it been since a loss?
    what exercise do you do, have you had any "days off" and ate something different? what are you stats, height weight ?
    I looked at your diary, it looks good, but I think that mfp over estimates exercise calories, so when I went to tdee method -20% I started losing again:)
    Louise



    5 ' 7 Starting Weight: 184
    Current weight: 174
    Started diet exercising: May 20th, 2013 approx 2 months and a couple days


    Mon-Fri 10 am : 150 squats
    12 pm: Walking 30 mins briskly
    3:00 pm: 50 squats
    6:00pm-7:00pm: 30 Day Shred Jillian Michaels

    Wednesday: Weights 10 lbs (20) mins
    Friday: Weights 10 lbs (20) mins

    Saturday & Sunday: Rest

    Those are Barbie weights. Try weights that will actually challenge you.

    Everyone else is giving solid advice.

    Try TDEE -20% so you don't overestimate the calorie burn. :)
  • HerpDerp745
    HerpDerp745 Posts: 223 Member
    May I suggest you think of yourself as this, "FICTIONAL" character & keep the rest of your comments to yourself.

    "FICTIONAL" like your weight loss.
  • valjean5
    valjean5 Posts: 17
    When I hit my wall I started eating a little more, kept everything the same as working out and did not feel hungry. Weight started to fall right off
  • cdcooper321
    cdcooper321 Posts: 157 Member
    I would not count breastfeeding calories burned as exercise, as I don't agree with logging what you burn cleaning house . All of this is taken into consideration already. If it's something that's part of your everyday life and not an actual workout or exercise regimen..I don't log.
    Try different methods. Try cutting back a couple hundred calories a day and see how that works. Then if that doesn't try adding in more exercise. You've just got to find the proper balance. Especially breastfeeding...I would not be relying on meal replacement shakes for nutrients. Good luck,girl! :-)
  • May I suggest you think of yourself as this, "FICTIONAL" character & keep the rest of your comments to yourself.

    "FICTIONAL" like your weight loss.

    "FICTIONAL" Like your profile picture =)
  • j724mecham
    j724mecham Posts: 102 Member


    But you will waste energy to call me a jerk? I did go back and read. It seems everyone is attacking me personally while I've maintained respect for everyone.

    Um, you told someone to relax and go eat a poptart. That's not all that respectful. You also said some other things but I'm too lazy/should be working to go back to quote them.

    I'm sorry, but what is wrong with pop tarts? I personally love them. How is this some how disrespectful? Also, if you should be working, I don't think you should have taken the time to write that large of a response.

    It's a pretty fantastic day when HerpDerp previously discredits someone's spelling and grammar only to find out they "some how" managed to do the same.
  • PepperWorm
    PepperWorm Posts: 1,206
    Well, eff my life. Because I'm not registered for summer semester I can't access Galileo.

    Oh, well. Carry on.
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
    What is your point? That she should be reporting actual minutes breastfeeding everyday, or that if the above person can't site a reputable study that supports that breastfeeding burns calories, then obviously breastfeeding doesn't contribute to calorie burn. Why not just drop it?

    If there's no concrete evidence it burns significant calories, it shouldn't be counted. That's my point.



    Anyone who knows anything understands that nursing burns a ton of calories. When I was pregnant, I had a hard time gaining weight. My doctor lectured me about how nursing burns more calories than pregnancy does and wanted to make sure I kept up supplementing my diet with high cal, high protein shakes. Which I did.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member

    Try different methods. Try cutting back a couple hundred calories a day and see how that works.

    Bad advice, she is already eating "just 1200", which is not anywhere near what she needs breastfeeding.
  • HerpDerp745
    HerpDerp745 Posts: 223 Member
    Well, eff my life. Because I'm not registered for summer semester I can't access Galileo.

    Oh, well. Carry on.

    A LIKELY story :laugh:
  • PepperWorm
    PepperWorm Posts: 1,206
    Why did my Pokemon post get removed??

    Like, seriously. It was light hearted and funny.

    Mods, man. They had no childhood.
  • PepperWorm
    PepperWorm Posts: 1,206
    Well, eff my life. Because I'm not registered for summer semester I can't access Galileo.

    Oh, well. Carry on.

    A LIKELY story :laugh:

    Believe what you want to. I just spent a good 15 minutes trying to figure out why I couldn't log in just to prove a point and raged to the kind library folk only to find out that li'l gem. Booo.
  • ladynocturne
    ladynocturne Posts: 865 Member
    Why did my Pokemon post get removed??

    Like, seriously. It was light hearted and funny.

    Mods, man. They had no childhood.

    I totally <3ed that, made me laugh. They can erase it from the board, but they can't erase it from my memory!
  • HerpDerp745
    HerpDerp745 Posts: 223 Member
    Why did my Pokemon post get removed??

    Like, seriously. It was light hearted and funny.

    Mods, man. They had no childhood.

    That's right. Calling people an 'idiot' or 'asshat' is okay, but if you make a joke about pokemon, that's it!
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
    What is your point? That she should be reporting actual minutes breastfeeding everyday, or that if the above person can't site a reputable study that supports that breastfeeding burns calories, then obviously breastfeeding doesn't contribute to calorie burn. Why not just drop it?

    If there's no concrete evidence it burns significant calories, it shouldn't be counted. That's my point.

    This person is TROLLING you. Please ignore him.

    Anyone who knows anything understands that nursing burns a ton of calories. When I was pregnant, I had a hard time gaining weight. My doctor lectured me about how nursing burns more calories than pregnancy does and wanted to make sure I kept up supplementing my diet with high cal, high protein shakes. Which I did.

    And to just add to this:

    A baby is born at 7 lbs. Survives solely off of breast milk for at least 6 months. After that, often predominantly breast milk for another few months.

    A 6 month old baby has grown to an average weight of 16 lbs. In that time, they also moved a lot (ever hold a baby), cried a lot, and around 7 months they are learning to crawl (a huge endeavor if you have ever watched it).

    (This is all stuff you can find easily in your family, in your community, on the internet, or ask a doctor)

    Here is some information about how much nutrients and calories are in the milk consumed by baby (logically, this comes from mama's diet): http://www.parentingscience.com/calories-in-breast-milk.html

    The accepted burn for mom is 20 cals per ounce of breastmilk (http://www.shape.com/lifestyle/mind-and-body/perks-and-health-benefits-breastfeeding)
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    Hi Jennifer cute kids.

    The part you are doing right is adding cals burned for breastfeeding. 300 is on the low end of the range but it's still ok.

    The part you are NOT doing right is you are not looking at your NET CALS. On your newsfeed page you will see a word that says NET CALS and a number that you might not want to fall too low since you are nursing and just in general it's not good to have it go too low. That's how much your body is actually functioning on after all your exercise cals and breastfeeding cals are subtracted. If that number is less than 1200 it's too low. It's just not enough energy to survive, have energy, and keep your hair and nails.

    You look kind of tall from your profile pics. I'm wondering if you shouldn't have a higher cal goal anyways overall?

    There are lots of websites online that help you calculate a good calorie goal specific to you but I'm not sure they incorporate breastfeeding which does indeed require more calories. Not because it's "exercise" but because the body needs those extra calories to produce the milk. So if I were you I would do the following:

    1) I would go look at a website like "scooby" or find anything that will help you calculate a TDEE cal goal personal to YOU.
    THEN I would go see a lactation specialist or just research online how many extra calories you need to consume for breastfeeding a lactation or nutrition specialist seems like a good idea, no?

    2) Then I would either log that number daily as negative calories as you are doing by placing them in your exercise calories OR just add that total to your calorie goal for the day. It does you no good to add your breastfeeding calories to your exercise calories IF YOU DO NOT EAT THEM BACK. Does that make sense.

    You are currenly eating like a very tiny short thin single woman who does not breastfeed and is inactive. 1200 cals
    Then when you subtract the calories necessary for breastfeeding -300 cals (the low end)
    and the calories you burn thru exercise 300-400 (appx)
    You are surviving on very very few calories each day which is not enough for anyone. appx 500-600 for example today.
    as per your diary.

    I hope this makes sense to you because your baby needs you to eat enough to get that good milk from you. Your other kids also need you to eat enough to have energy. Your beauty needs you to eat enough to keep your gorgeous long hair. I wish my hair looked like that with just ONE kid, having three, I'd look like medusa. Lol. Good luck, you got this.:flowerforyou:

    (p.s. Batman just didn't know about nursing. No biggie. Let him see himself out of this thread. It's okay batman just stick to wearing leather and standing there looking cute.)
  • PepperWorm
    PepperWorm Posts: 1,206
    Why did my Pokemon post get removed??

    Like, seriously. It was light hearted and funny.

    Mods, man. They had no childhood.

    That's right. Calling people an 'idiot' or 'asshat' is okay, but if you make a joke about pokemon, that's it!

    All I see is "waaaaaaah, I insulted people and don't like getting a dose of my own medicine, waaaaaah!"
  • HerpDerp745
    HerpDerp745 Posts: 223 Member
    (p.s. Batman just didn't know about nursing. No biggie. Let him see himself out of this thread. It's okay batman just stick to wearing leather and standing there looking cute.)

    I'm not wearing hockey pads!
  • HerpDerp745
    HerpDerp745 Posts: 223 Member
    And to just add to this:

    A baby is born at 7 lbs. Survives solely off of breast milk for at least 6 months. After that, often predominantly breast milk for another few months.

    A 6 month old baby has grown to an average weight of 16 lbs. In that time, they also moved a lot (ever hold a baby), cried a lot, and around 7 months they are learning to crawl (a huge endeavor if you have ever watched it).

    (This is all stuff you can find easily in your family, in your community, on the internet, or ask a doctor)

    Here is some information about how much nutrients and calories are in the milk consumed by baby (logically, this comes from mama's diet): http://www.parentingscience.com/calories-in-breast-milk.html

    The accepted burn for mom is 20 cals per ounce of breastmilk (http://www.shape.com/lifestyle/mind-and-body/perks-and-health-benefits-breastfeeding)

    Please do not feed the troll: CorvusCorax77
  • PepperWorm
    PepperWorm Posts: 1,206
    Why did my Pokemon post get removed??

    Like, seriously. It was light hearted and funny.

    Mods, man. They had no childhood.

    I totally <3ed that, made me laugh. They can erase it from the board, but they can't erase it from my memory!

    Teehee! :)
  • BarbieAS
    BarbieAS Posts: 1,414 Member
    I have spent just under 3.5 years of my life nursing my 2 babies :flowerforyou: (ETA: and counting!).

    First of all, exclusively breastfeeding will use about 300-500 calories per day over and above your normal BMR+activity (as you wean, this will obviously decrease - you can assume approximately 20 calories per ounce produced). It essentially increases your NEAT (non-exercise activity thermogenesis). A PP is correct in that it is not "exercise" in the most technical sense of the word, but it ABSOLUTELY MUST be accounted for in a breastfeeding mother's calorie intake or else she risks undereating and decreased milk supply. Since MFP does not have a "breastfeeding" setting, breastfeeding mothers have to find other ways to include it. You can either (a) just create a custom calorie goal, (b) use the "negative" calorie food entry (which I don't like because it doesn't account for appropriate macro distribution), or (c) add it in as an exercise every day, as the OP has done. No, there's no way to know exactly how much more a breastfeeding mother burns every day through lactation, but adding in 300 calories (the minimum for a typical EBF mother) is a perfectly reasonable approach.

    OP, I would suggest eating a little more. If you're doing cardio and you don't want to eat back those calories, fine, but at least eat back what you're attributing yourself for nursing and set your deficit for 1lb/week. 1500 calories per day (consumed, not net) should be your absolute, rock bottom, bare minimum, and ideally even more than that (whatever 500/day deficit + at least 300 extra per day gets you to). Try that and see what happens.

    Oh, and some links for the non-believers:
    http://kellymom.com/nutrition/mothers-diet/mom-calories-fluids/
    http://www.babycenter.com/0_diet-for-a-healthy-breastfeeding-mom_3565.bc?page=1
    http://www.llli.org/nb/nbmarapr04p44.html
    http://www.today.com/id/13554430/ns/today-today_health/t/answering-your-questions-about-breastfeeding/#.UfGfWKx0uVo
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/breastfeeding-nutrition/MY02015