June 2017 Running Challenge

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  • zdyb23456
    zdyb23456 Posts: 1,706 Member
    6/1 5miles 46:33min
    6/2 3miles 27:09min
    6/3 7miles 65:53min
    6/4 rest
    6/5 3miles 27:52min
    6/6 4miles 36:43min

    A warm 4 miles today. I wish my hip felt better. I'm worried about running 13 on Saturday. I think I will take a week off after to give my hip a break. I'm still waiting on my referral to a PT. I think longingly of the days when I was running pain free...
  • WhatMeRunning
    WhatMeRunning Posts: 3,538 Member
    4.5 miles at easy effort today (65% to 80% maxHR). Felt great! Especially the weather. Still warmer than ideal running weather, but a very welcome break from how things have been lately.

    6/1 - rest
    6/2 - 3.1 miles
    6/3 - 13.1 miles
    6/4 - 4.5 miles
    6/5 - 9 miles
    6/6 - 4.5 miles

    34.2 of 170 miles completed


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  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    BettyM1017 wrote: »
    sktobin wrote: »

    Any advice on strength training while running?? Running is a part of an overall fitness plan for me.
    I won't be winning any races or anything like that! Purely recreational. I really enjoy strength training. Sometimes find it tough to balance that with getting in the kms.

    Let me start by saying I'm not an elite runner. I've only been at this for about a year and a half. I run about 25 miles a week. Running started as part of an overall fitness plan....and then I did my first 5K! Can you say hooked? Lol! So now my primary focus is running. However! And it's a big however....what I've learned in that short time is that I need strength training, especially total body workouts that incorporate core and balance if I want to stay injury free. I'm 50 years old and my body doesn't create the chemistry to maintain muscle very well anymore. Regular strength training is a must for me just to get through the day!

    I'm a bit lazy though when trying to create a program so I use a lot of videos. I'm currently hooked on Beachbody programs like 21 Day Fix Extreme and P90X3. I just ditch the cardio days on the calender and run. So far it's been working out pretty well. I'm injury free and I can still lift heavy trays over my head at work without wanting to crumble.

    I totally agree! And I like your plan with the Beach Body programs of substituting the cardio with the running. That is what I did with the original P90X several years back and it worked well. I am currently also doing the P90X3 (loosely, as I am not doing it every day, but fitting it into my schedule as I can). I am doing the cardio videos this time around since I am doing very little running thanks to, you guessed it, an injury. I stupidly let my strength training fall to the way side in the place of chasing higher mileage and ended up with a bear of a case of high hamstring tendinitis which is not proving easy to cure!

    @_nikkiwolf_ Thanks! I texted my PT yesterday and he told me to ease back into it even more slowly and really concentrate on my foot strike (mid foot to forefoot) so that I have less hamstring activation. I may go for some short intervals tonight.

    @KatieJane83- If I were you, I would swap your tempo run out for another day since you will be doing speed work tomorrow as well. Back to back speed workouts in combination with high mileage are a recipe for injury. Just a suggestion.

    June 1- 2.8 miles(first run back!)
    June 2- 30 minutes swim (800m)+ 30 minutes yoga
    June 3- 3.6 miles+ 30 minutes stretching/PT
    June 4- P90X3 Challenge
    June 5- 32 minute swim (850m)

    Total miles 6.4/50

    After my first two runs and my conversation with my PT yesterday, I think I am going to retract my June goal of 50 miles. New goal will be to finish the month with a pain free run of any distance!
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    Got my bib numbers! It all feels super real now! 5k is at 6pm on the 16th. I'll be running that with my wife. She's a 40min 5k runner, so it will be a shake out run for me. Marathon starts at 0745 on the 17th.

    Excitement level 100!

    @MNLittleFinn - A thought occurs to me. Your normal easy pace is somewhere in the 9:15 to 9:45 per mile range, correct? Running 5K in 40 minutes even is an average pace of 12:54 per mile. Can you run 3 miles that slow without messing yourself up? If you haven't already, you might want to pace your wife for a few runs between now and race day, so you know what you're getting into.
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    lporter229 wrote: »
    BettyM1017 wrote: »
    sktobin wrote: »

    Any advice on strength training while running?? Running is a part of an overall fitness plan for me.
    I won't be winning any races or anything like that! Purely recreational. I really enjoy strength training. Sometimes find it tough to balance that with getting in the kms.

    Let me start by saying I'm not an elite runner. I've only been at this for about a year and a half. I run about 25 miles a week. Running started as part of an overall fitness plan....and then I did my first 5K! Can you say hooked? Lol! So now my primary focus is running. However! And it's a big however....what I've learned in that short time is that I need strength training, especially total body workouts that incorporate core and balance if I want to stay injury free. I'm 50 years old and my body doesn't create the chemistry to maintain muscle very well anymore. Regular strength training is a must for me just to get through the day!

    I'm a bit lazy though when trying to create a program so I use a lot of videos. I'm currently hooked on Beachbody programs like 21 Day Fix Extreme and P90X3. I just ditch the cardio days on the calender and run. So far it's been working out pretty well. I'm injury free and I can still lift heavy trays over my head at work without wanting to crumble.



    @KatieJane83- If I were you, I would swap your tempo run out for another day since you will be doing speed work tomorrow as well. Back to back speed workouts in combination with high mileage are a recipe for injury. Just a suggestion.

    Oh yeah, honestly I'll probably just cut this speed workout out, as right now I'd rather have the higher mileage done safely.
  • Bakins929
    Bakins929 Posts: 895 Member
    Got in 5.1 this morning. Was barely raining and felt great!
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  • Azercord
    Azercord Posts: 573 Member
    Fitness watch question for everyone:

    My watch it dying and I'm looking to get a new one, I'm leaning towards a Garmin but I'm not sure which type. I run with my phone so GPS isn't an issue but it looks like most/all their watches have it anyways. I'm a little concerned at how much it shortens the battery life but if I can turn it off on the watch and just use my phone that would be fine. All I do is run at this point so I'm not sure which model/how much overkill I want.

    I'm fairly torn between the Forerunners and Fenix series. Any recommendations would be great.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    edited June 2017
    MobyCarp wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    Got my bib numbers! It all feels super real now! 5k is at 6pm on the 16th. I'll be running that with my wife. She's a 40min 5k runner, so it will be a shake out run for me. Marathon starts at 0745 on the 17th.

    Excitement level 100!

    @MNLittleFinn - A thought occurs to me. Your normal easy pace is somewhere in the 9:15 to 9:45 per mile range, correct? Running 5K in 40 minutes even is an average pace of 12:54 per mile. Can you run 3 miles that slow without messing yourself up? If you haven't already, you might want to pace your wife for a few runs between now and race day, so you know what you're getting into.

    Excellent point @MobyCarp i didn't think about that, i was just thinking of supporting her entry into running. I didn't think about how going that slow would mess with ME!

    I've paced for her before, so it's somewhat familiar territory for me, but I've never done it right before a goal race for myself. She signed for the 5k after I was already locked in, so we'll see.... I might talk to her about me going my own pace....
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    MobyCarp wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    Got my bib numbers! It all feels super real now! 5k is at 6pm on the 16th. I'll be running that with my wife. She's a 40min 5k runner, so it will be a shake out run for me. Marathon starts at 0745 on the 17th.

    Excitement level 100!

    @MNLittleFinn - A thought occurs to me. Your normal easy pace is somewhere in the 9:15 to 9:45 per mile range, correct? Running 5K in 40 minutes even is an average pace of 12:54 per mile. Can you run 3 miles that slow without messing yourself up? If you haven't already, you might want to pace your wife for a few runs between now and race day, so you know what you're getting into.

    Excellent point @MobyCarp i dodnr thonk about that, i was just thinking of supporting her entry into running. I didn't think about how going that slow would mess with ME!

    I've paced for her before, so it's somewhat familiar territory for me, but I've never done it right before a goal race for myself. She signed for the 5k after I was already locked in, so we'll see.... I might talk to her about me going my own pace....

    If you've paced for her before and not had problems, you should be fine. I was concerned about it being a surprise.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    @MNLittleFinn - @MobyCarp makes a good point, and even though you have done it before, you might still want to revisit it since you have become significantly faster recently. There is a point at which running too slow becomes way too much of an effort because you have to compromise your form.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    lporter229 wrote: »
    @MNLittleFinn - @MobyCarp makes a good point, and even though you have done it before, you might still want to revisit it since you have become significantly faster recently. There is a point at which running too slow becomes way too much of an effort because you have to compromise your form.

    Great point. I havent pacef for her in a while, so i might need to go my own pace.... well talk about along with the other logistics of thst weekend.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Azercord wrote: »
    Fitness watch question for everyone:

    My watch it dying and I'm looking to get a new one, I'm leaning towards a Garmin but I'm not sure which type. I run with my phone so GPS isn't an issue but it looks like most/all their watches have it anyways. I'm a little concerned at how much it shortens the battery life but if I can turn it off on the watch and just use my phone that would be fine. All I do is run at this point so I'm not sure which model/how much overkill I want.

    I'm fairly torn between the Forerunners and Fenix series. Any recommendations would be great.

    I have the Garmin FR 620 and love it. I never have a problem with battery life. One 90 minute outting and I'm probably at 80%. DH has the 230 and never seems to charge his and it's been fine. You can turn the GPS off on the watch, but I find my phone craps out way before my watch does running the GPS. I love having all the metrics.

    Check out DCRainmakers reviews, they are the best.
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    lporter229 wrote: »
    @MNLittleFinn - @MobyCarp makes a good point, and even though you have done it before, you might still want to revisit it since you have become significantly faster recently. There is a point at which running too slow becomes way too much of an effort because you have to compromise your form.

    Great point. I havent pacef for her in a while, so i might need to go my own pace.... well talk about along with the other logistics of thst weekend.

    There's another thing about running a 5K as a race, even a "B" race, the day before the marathon. How much of the glycogen you've carb loaded for are you willing to spend on the 5K the day before? Probably not an issue at your wife's pace, but there's that form concern. I'd say revisit running with her before race day arrives, so you have more information to work with.

    The classic answer is, "Just run the 5K at an easy pace." Yeah, right. Tell me what mental games to play to get myself to do that. Pacing someone else would work; trying to do it on my own is very, very difficult in a race environment.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @MobyCarp @lporter229 thank you both! I have a feeling I won't make any kind of a decision on the 5k until day of. Pacing for my wife would ensure I take it easy, but might also be too slow...OTOH going my own pace might turn it into a race for me.... lol...

    ... no easy answer and all because I wanted the hooded sweatshirt I get for running both....lol.... I'm such a dork
  • BruinsGal_91
    BruinsGal_91 Posts: 1,400 Member
    Azercord wrote: »
    Fitness watch question for everyone:

    My watch it dying and I'm looking to get a new one, I'm leaning towards a Garmin but I'm not sure which type. I run with my phone so GPS isn't an issue but it looks like most/all their watches have it anyways. I'm a little concerned at how much it shortens the battery life but if I can turn it off on the watch and just use my phone that would be fine. All I do is run at this point so I'm not sure which model/how much overkill I want.

    I'm fairly torn between the Forerunners and Fenix series. Any recommendations would be great.

    It all depends on how many bells and whistles you want. I'm solely a runner, and I found the Garmin's 'entry level' Forerunner 25 was perfect for me. There is also the Garmin Forerunner 35 which has the HR monitor. Both are fairly basic compared to a lot of fitness watches out there, but for me, the FR25 does everything I want.

    I second what @Elise4270 said re check out D C Rainmaker's reviews.
  • rusgolden
    rusgolden Posts: 1,337 Member
    BettyM1017 wrote: »
    sktobin wrote: »

    Any advice on strength training while running?? Running is a part of an overall fitness plan for me.
    I won't be winning any races or anything like that! Purely recreational. I really enjoy strength training. Sometimes find it tough to balance that with getting in the kms.

    Let me start by saying I'm not an elite runner. I've only been at this for about a year and a half. I run about 25 miles a week. Running started as part of an overall fitness plan....and then I did my first 5K! Can you say hooked? Lol! So now my primary focus is running. However! And it's a big however....what I've learned in that short time is that I need strength training, especially total body workouts that incorporate core and balance if I want to stay injury free. I'm 50 years old and my body doesn't create the chemistry to maintain muscle very well anymore. Regular strength training is a must for me just to get through the day!

    I'm a bit lazy though when trying to create a program so I use a lot of videos. I'm currently hooked on Beachbody programs like 21 Day Fix Extreme and P90X3. I just ditch the cardio days on the calender and run. So far it's been working out pretty well. I'm injury free and I can still lift heavy trays over my head at work without wanting to crumble.

    Totally agree and @BettyM1017 that 1st paragraph could have been written by me, lol. I started out my fitness journey with strength training 3 days a week and walking the other 4 days and lost my 1st 50 lbs doing that. Last spring I felt like I was fit enough to try to add running and began the C25K program, running 3-4 days a week and doing strength training 2-3 days a week. Now that I am running 5 days a week pretty consistently, I spend the other 2 off days doing my strength training and might squeeze in a resistance circuit workout on a short mid-week run day as well. I mainly focus on muscle group areas (Day 1: Chest/Shoulders, Day 2: Legs/Back) and have incorporated some core exercises in between sets. I use the JEFit app to track those workouts. I've found that flex training can also be important to staying injury free and have been trying to add in some yoga or extended stretching routines.
  • cburke8909
    cburke8909 Posts: 990 Member
    5 miles today June total 32.6/150 117.4 to go.

  • garygse
    garygse Posts: 896 Member
    @Azercord Getting a GPS watch and then using the GPS on a phone instead just sounds kinda weird (to me, at least). I used to run using the GPS on my phone, but it sucked the battery life out of my phone, and I definitely want the phone to have juice in it just in case I need it for an emergency. So I picked up the FR 235...I love it, and I can run for hours before thinking about needing to charge it again. I can't say the same for my phone.

    That being said, I'm sorely tempted by the new FR 935. And it has an even bigger battery (20 hours or so of GPS, I think), and all the bells and whistles that would make a data nerd like myself extremely happy.

    I'll third what @Elise4270 and @BruinsGal_91 said, and suggest reading up on D C Rainmaker's reviews. They're more in-depth than nearly anything else out there.
  • WhatMeRunning
    WhatMeRunning Posts: 3,538 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    @MobyCarp @lporter229 thank you both! I have a feeling I won't make any kind of a decision on the 5k until day of. Pacing for my wife would ensure I take it easy, but might also be too slow...OTOH going my own pace might turn it into a race for me.... lol...

    ... no easy answer and all because I wanted the hooded sweatshirt I get for running both....lol.... I'm such a dork
    @MNLittleFinn - If it's like most races that have multiple events, that sort of swag like shirts get handed out at packet pickup for everyone who signed up for both. About the only thing that gets held back until you complete both are any special medals indicating you FINISHED both.

    So...what I'm saying is...

    If you want to race that full...which you do since you are gunning for a sub 4 hour finish and worked hard to bump up your pace...

    Don't run the 5k.

    Just my input. :smile: Go for it if you must, but you are stealing from your full if you do.
  • WhatMeRunning
    WhatMeRunning Posts: 3,538 Member
    edited June 2017
    @azercord - My Garmin Forerunner 630 only needs to be charged once or twice per week, and I use both GPS and GLONASS, two different GPS receivers. So I am draining that battery as fast as I can. My phone can't even last a full day without needing a recharge, and usually can only last about 4 to 6 hours with GPS (and it is far less accurate than the GPS + GLONASS on the Garmin). If I do no running (when I was injured), I would only need to charge the Garmin every two or three weeks or so.

    I continued taking my phone with me after I got my Garmin just in case I wanted to take photos or something. After a little while I found the phone to be more of a burden and now I just use the watch. I'll take the phone only if I am worried I may need to call for help if I get stuck somewhere. I run a lot of routes near my home normally so that's not typically a concern. That's just me though.

    ETA - For reference, I charged my Garmin FR 630 watch last Thursday 6/1. Over the last 5 days since charging it I have run for over 8 hours. I will charge it again overnight as it is too low to go for tomorrows planned 9 miles. But I guess that could be helpful data if you want to compare battery life of a phone using a single GPS receiver vs a dual GPS watch.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    edited June 2017
    WhatMeRunning wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    @MobyCarp @lporter229 thank you both! I have a feeling I won't make any kind of a decision on the 5k until day of. Pacing for my wife would ensure I take it easy, but might also be too slow...OTOH going my own pace might turn it into a race for me.... lol...

    ... no easy answer and all because I wanted the hooded sweatshirt I get for running both....lol.... I'm such a dork
    @MNLittleFinn - If it's like most races that have multiple events, that sort of swag like shirts get handed out at packet pickup for everyone who signed up for both. About the only thing that gets held back until you complete both are any special medals indicating you FINISHED both.

    So...what I'm saying is...

    If you want to race that full...which you do since you are gunning for a sub 4 hour finish and worked hard to bump up your pace...

    Don't run the 5k.

    Just my input. :smile: Go for it if you must, but you are stealing from your full if you do.

    I might, but... there's always a but.... my plan has a 3 mile shake out run the day before the race anyway....and I really don't see it as stealing from the full, I'll be fully tapered and have planned for getting in the 3......sub 4 is the woohoo goal, but I can be happy with a 415, which is a slower pace than my training runs have been.. and I don't really have it in me to take the swag and skip the race.... I hate even taking the shirt if I don't run it....... I'm not worried at all about the energy expenditure of the 5k, it's all about just pacing it nice and easy..... which is super simple if I run with my wife....

    Oh, and thanks for making me question my decision making during taper... I really needed that, especially since both runs were on my list for the last 7 months :p
  • ctlaws44
    ctlaws44 Posts: 182 Member
    sktobin wrote: »
    Beautiful morning run in Newfoundland, CAN today. Was a relaxing, slow run but nice to be done before the work day starts.

    Any advice on strength training while running?? Running is a part of an overall fitness plan for me.
    I won't be winning any races or anything like that! Purely recreational. I really enjoy strength training. Sometimes find it tough to balance that with getting in the kms.

    Sometimes during my runs I throw in Burpee's, mountain climbers or some other (planks) to activate the core and upper body. This has helped me control my pace too. I typically do the intervals every 8 min. Hope this helps.
  • skippygirlsmom
    skippygirlsmom Posts: 4,433 Member
    edited June 2017
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    WhatMeRunning wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    @MobyCarp @lporter229 thank you both! I have a feeling I won't make any kind of a decision on the 5k until day of. Pacing for my wife would ensure I take it easy, but might also be too slow...OTOH going my own pace might turn it into a race for me.... lol...

    ... no easy answer and all because I wanted the hooded sweatshirt I get for running both....lol.... I'm such a dork
    @MNLittleFinn - If it's like most races that have multiple events, that sort of swag like shirts get handed out at packet pickup for everyone who signed up for both. About the only thing that gets held back until you complete both are any special medals indicating you FINISHED both.

    So...what I'm saying is...

    If you want to race that full...which you do since you are gunning for a sub 4 hour finish and worked hard to bump up your pace...

    Don't run the 5k.

    Just my input. :smile: Go for it if you must, but you are stealing from your full if you do.

    I might, but... there's always a but.... my plan has a 3 mile shake out run the day before the race anyway....and I really don't see it as stealing from the full, I'll be fully tapered and have planned for getting in the 3......sub 4 is the woohoo goal, but I can be happy with a 415, which is a slower pace than my training runs have been.. and I don't really have it in me to take the swag and skip the race.... I hate even taking the shirt if I don't run it....... I'm not worried at all about the energy expenditure of the 5k, it's all about just pacing it nice and easy..... which is super simple if I run with my wife....

    Oh, and thanks for making me question my decision making during taper... I really needed that, especially since both runs were on my list for the last 7 months :p

    @MNlittleFinn funny I was thinking about this too. I notice when Skip runs with me she complains that it's so slow it's actually harder for her to run, I can see the difference in her form. Most of the time after a couples of miles she'll say "can I go?" and leave me. Perhaps even if you started out with the Mrs. you can have a plan to leave her after she feels comfortable at say mile 1. I personally appreciate Skip's support more when I'm coming to the finish and she is there yelling for me then her running next to me talking, talking, talking... ha ha Her running coach has even told us both she can run with more occasionally, like long run day, but not on 3 to 5 mile runs.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    Thanks @skippygirlsmom I was kind of thinking something along those lines, if we don't run full together.... get her set and then up my speed just to keep form correct.....

    Did I mention that I hate taper? Only really day 2 and it's already torture.....
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