June 2017 Running Challenge
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lporter229 wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »WhatMeRunning wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »@MobyCarp @lporter229 thank you both! I have a feeling I won't make any kind of a decision on the 5k until day of. Pacing for my wife would ensure I take it easy, but might also be too slow...OTOH going my own pace might turn it into a race for me.... lol...
... no easy answer and all because I wanted the hooded sweatshirt I get for running both....lol.... I'm such a dork
So...what I'm saying is...
If you want to race that full...which you do since you are gunning for a sub 4 hour finish and worked hard to bump up your pace...
Don't run the 5k.
Just my input. Go for it if you must, but you are stealing from your full if you do.
I might, but... there's always a but.... my plan has a 3 mile shake out run the day before the race anyway....and I really don't see it as stealing from the full, I'll be fully tapered and have planned for getting in the 3......sub 4 is the woohoo goal, but I can be happy with a 415, which is a slower pace than my training runs have been.. and I don't really have it in me to take the swag and skip the race.... I hate even taking the shirt if I don't run it....... I'm not worried at all about the energy expenditure of the 5k, it's all about just pacing it nice and easy..... which is super simple if I run with my wife....
Oh, and thanks for making me question my decision making during taper... I really needed that, especially since both runs were on my list for the last 7 months
I totally get that. Since the whole purpose of a shake out run is to keep the legs loose and shake out the nerves, there is really no set rule on how long, far or fast you need to run. You could always start the race with your wife and if it feels too unnatural, stop and walk for a bit, let her get a lead, then run at your comfortable (but slow!) pace to catch up. You could do these types of intervals for the whole race.
I think whatever you do will be fine, as long as you don't end up going out alone and getting sucked into the race environment and running at a pace that is any faster than a crawl for you. In other words DON'T run this race in under 30 minutes!
Thanks. My first timerism is really showing isn't it? I hate to admit it, but I'm pretty nervous, and the 5k is a way for me to work out some nerves (at a slow pace) before the big day. I've trained really hard and now need to get my mind in gear better for it.1 -
girlinahat wrote: »carolineb81 wrote: »@stkobin - thats beautiful
It's a beautiful run. We have pretty bizzare weather here in Newfoundland--but it is a beautiful place, for sure. Need reminders of that when I'm struggling through runs!! Have to shake my head sometimes and take a look around.
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Hope everyone's doing good. Just catching up. Great job everyone on fabtastic races this weekend! Enjoyed Karl's race recap. Heat and humidity are nothing to mess around with. I had a 5K this weekend. It's the last race until fall where I'll try to break the 20 min 5k mark. Short story, I didn't. I was close though. From here till October I'm going to run my races not trying to beat my previous mark. It just gets too hot and humid here.
The 5k was fairly warm at 75F/24C with 80% humidity. The 5k started pretty good but after 1.5 miles I could feel my limiting factor was my cardio. I didn't warm up hard enough. Due to time, I didn't do any sprint intervals. It took about .5 mi for my heart to catch up and by that time there wasn't enough course to make it up. I did end up coming in 2nd in the Masters and 9th overall. It was also a PR (20:11) at the 5K. It looks like I won't have a shot at the sub 20 5k until probably Nov/Dec. Oh well. I hope everyone is doing good!
Just as I finished
Praying that I finished uninjured
Time
Bling
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@ctlaws44 super 5K! so close to breaking 20.2
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Thanks @skippygirlsmom! Unfortunately that was probably the flattest 5k I could hope for.2
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@ctlaws44 but think how fast you'll be when the weather cools off1
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@ctlaws44 great 5k! You're definitely going to break 20 at your next one in the fall!1
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I did a run last night and it was rough because of heat. To some amount, that was an excuse, but then I got up early this morning (I am NOT a morning person, so 4:30a is rough for different reasons). Anyway, it was cool because it is not humid at all this year, so things cooled down quite a bit overnight. My home internet was out this morning, so I'll post an updated ticker from home later.
Question: My HM training plan has be progressively increasing mileage. This weekend is supposed to be 13 miles (longest I've ever run continuously). However, I'm backpacking this weekend and instead am trying to plan that for Thurs. instead. That presents 2 challenges: First, I'm tight on time on Thurs. because I need to make sure to get everything packed so I can leave Fri. right away after work to go backpacking + I need to pack for a work trip next week because I'm planning to go straight from the park to the airport (saves 2 hrs. driving time and allows more time in the wilderness before my late Sun. flight). Second, I work on Thurs. normal hours in addition to having to pack... and should mow the lawn then as well since I won't be home for another week (or just do that tomorrow).
So I'm trying to decide how to handle the 13 miles in plan. Should I just wake up really early on Thurs. morning, drag myself outside to run mostly in the dark when it is cool? Should I split them up and do some miles in the early AM and make some time in the evening? I do have a gym membership at a 24 hr. facility, so perhaps I should do them in the early AM before work, but inside so as not to worry about running in the dark so much?
If you are wondering, the backpacking plan is 0.5-1 miles on Fri. evening (arriving without a lot of daylight, so hoping to barely make it into the woods); 11-12 miles of mostly difficult terrain on Sat., and then around 4-6 miles on Sun. morning. Maybe I should cut back the 13 miles to something smaller since I'm putting in the mileage in another way this weekend? Backpacking is not the same as running, though...
Edit: As I think about this more and more, the answer seems to be that I should wake up really early... just haven't decided whether I should run outside in the dark or on the dreadmill inside.1 -
@stkobin Beautiful pictures! You live in Newfoundland? That's so cool - I heard it's absolutely lovely!
Actually, I'll spend my summer vacation this year in Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. I'm really looking forward to seeing the nature in the Gros Morne National Park. And icebergs drifting by the Baie Verte Peninsula. And lots of other things I read about in the guidebook1 -
6/1 - 8 miles (daily double: 3.5 & 4.5)
6/2 - 9 miles
6/3 - 5 mile recovery run
6/4 - GW Bridge Challenge 10k (PR - 53:43)
6/5 - 6.25 mile recovery run
6/6 - 9 soaking wet miles
June Total: 43.45/140
644.25 miles/2,017 miles - goal for the year
So, I got my 9 miles in at lunch. They were very very wet, lol. I didn't run an easy run (I just don't have time at lunch) but it wasn't a LT tempo run either. Still kinda surprised how good my legs are feeling, considering this is day 7 of my 9 day running streak. So far, I have 51.5 miles on 7 consecutive days. Yikes, lol.2 -
Hello fellow runners!
6/1: 8.7k -w/u, Tempo Run, c/d-
6/2: 10.3k -again Tempo-
6/4: 7.1k - urban running
6/6: 14.1k -Long run-
Aim: 40.2k/161k
2nd run in Cyprus. Various surfaces, I found a 4k trail around a salt lake. Awesome!
Stay free of injuries!4 -
@midwesterner85 --- being out in the wilderness is so good for the soul... hope the weather is nice for you! How many more training weeks do you have until your HM race and how many left on the plan? For me, if there was enough time to make plan adjustments, I would cut back and do the long 13 mi run next week. When I trained for my HM this spring, I extended the 12 week plan into about 16 with some 5K and 10K races mixed in as well.0
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@ctlaws44 - Look at everything that went wrong, and you still came close to 20 minutes! You're going to break 20 in a 5K some time when things come together, for sure.
@midwesterner85 - If you had done a half before, I'd say bag the long run in light of what else you have going on this weekend; but 13 miles can be a Big Deal psychologically on your way to your first half. Do you have enough time before the race to get 13 in next week instead of this week, even if the plan has you running shorter? I don't like the potential physical effects of going short on sleep before a full day of work, long drive, and very active weekend. But it's hard to argue with the psychological benefit of actually running the distance you will race.
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June goal= 80 miles
Todays run=3 miles
Total= 12 miles
It was lashing down at 6am this morning when I went out. So much for flaming June?
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June 1 – 6.0 miles Temp: 84°F Humidity: 52%
June 2 – 6.0 miles w/6 x 400m intervals Temp: 80°F Humidity: 80%
June 3 – 3.0 miles Easy Run Temp: 80°F Humidity: 80%
June 4 – 0.0 miles Rest Day
June 5 – 5.0 miles Easy run w/strides (8) Temp: 75°F Humidity: 90%
June 6 – 0.0 miles XT Day Water Zumba and 30 min of swimming laps
Total: 20 miles/100 miles
Races:
June 23 – St. Pete Beach Series, Race #1, 5K
July 21 - St. Pete Beach Series, Race #2, 5K
August 5 – Great Brain Wash 5K Obstacle Run, St. Pete, FL
August 18 - St. Pete Beach Series, Race #3, 5K
September 16 – Samoa Challenge (Thin Mint Sprint 5K and a Tagalong Trot 1 mile), Safety Harbor, FL
November 18 – Insane Inflatable 5K Obstacle Run, Tampa, FL
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June Goal: 95 miles
6/01 0
6/02 5.0 - 9:09 m/m 153 HR
6/03 4.0 - 8:47 m/m 156 HR
6/04 5.0 - 8:56 m/m 154 HR
6/05 0.0
6/06 5.0 - 3 miles of .5 mi intervals with a 2 mi easy jog cool down - 8:42 m/m 139 HR (pace is intervals only, HR includes wu/cd)
Total: 19 miles4 -
Hey @Elise4270 - Love the article! Something for me to be working toward I doubt if I could qualify given the times those ladies are running though!1 -
Thanks for all the input everyone, like many of you have stated my phone will probably take a back seat once I've gotten used to the watch but it has been my GPS source so I'm just used to it. As it stands I'm looking at the Fenix 5 or the FR 735XT, still reading up on the DC Rainmaker's reviews though.2
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@elise4270 very cool. We recently had a track meet here with an open age group. It had all types of events including the pole vault, our coach wants me to learn to pole vault in the worst way. He said I can win a gold medal if I enter a few of the events. What cracks me up is no 3200 for my age group, what? I'm too old to run 3200m I guess ha ha!1
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@rusgolden @mobycarp I've never done a half marathon before and I'm trying to be ready for my first on 6/24. The plan increases from 9 miles long run last week (and it was tough because it was super hot and not much shade on the route I took) to 13 miles this "weekend" and then up to 14 miles the following weekend... then HM on the following weekend.
Mileage during the week is 5 miles x 3 days this week, 6 miles x 3 days next week (will do while traveling for work - different challenge, but not as bad), and then 7 miles x 3 days the week prior to the HM. Hoping for 2 rest days between the last training run (7 miles) and the HM. My goal is only to finish, not to win. Yes, there is a huge psychological benefit to knowing I can do 13 miles straight before going out and trying to actually finish on my own. And the plan is to basically do that twice before the event.
The plan is to spend 6 days backpacking starting the day after the HM, so doing 13 miles Thurs. and then going backpacking for the weekend is good practice anyway.4 -
@midwesterner85 that sounds a pretty full-on plan - especially the 7miles 3x a week just before the HM.
I did just over 13miles once before my HM. That was at a very slow pace given the terrain and there was a brief lunch stop. Like you I just wanted to confirm I could do the distance. I did only a couple of short runs (2-3miles) the week before and nothing two days before.
Can you do a back-to-back to simulate a long run? I'd be tempted to try and do just the one at the distance, the week before say do 7/8 and then up to around 4 during the week before. I'm saying all this from gut instinct however.3 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »@rusgolden @mobycarp I've never done a half marathon before and I'm trying to be ready for my first on 6/24. The plan increases from 9 miles long run last week (and it was tough because it was super hot and not much shade on the route I took) to 13 miles this "weekend" and then up to 14 miles the following weekend... then HM on the following weekend.
Mileage during the week is 5 miles x 3 days this week, 6 miles x 3 days next week (will do while traveling for work - different challenge, but not as bad), and then 7 miles x 3 days the week prior to the HM. Hoping for 2 rest days between the last training run (7 miles) and the HM. My goal is only to finish, not to win. Yes, there is a huge psychological benefit to knowing I can do 13 miles straight before going out and trying to actually finish on my own. And the plan is to basically do that twice before the event.
The plan is to spend 6 days backpacking starting the day after the HM, so doing 13 miles Thurs. and then going backpacking for the weekend is good practice anyway.
Wowza! Quite the plan there! I defer to @MobyCarp as he has a LOT more experience, but just giving my 2 cents as someone who recently went thru training for 1st HM. My plan's longest run was 12 miles (weekly mileage of 34 miles that week) and it was 3 weeks before the race, then went down to long runs of 8 miles (weekly mileage of 27-29) the last 2 weeks. I do think you need to get at least one of those long runs in before the race, but maybe not both?? My goal wasn't to win either, just to finish (although I did have some target finish goals that I ended up exceeding). One thing about running early in the morning... it's always shady!
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Oh, and six days backpacking straight after? I could barely keep my eyes open to WORK after mine.4
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So I sent my trainer the story link that @Elise4270 posted... guess getting fast enough to qualify will be my new goal By 2019 we should be retired so I should have plenty of time, right??
Short run today as I thought I needed to be back for a meeting which ended up being cancelled. I called in while heading home but when no one else joined I took another loop around the cul-de-sacs in my neighborhood just to get in the 4 miles! My last few runs have been better - I am still walking to catch my breath (note I am not running too fast, I just get to a point where I can't breath... my average HR was only 97 with a high of 117) but it is happening less frequently and the running in between is getting better and better! There must really be something to this sleeping enough and eating enough calories
Date........Miles.......Total
06/01......0.00........0.00 - Unplanned rest/life day
06/02......6.06........6.06
06/03......0.00........6.06
06/04......6.51......12.57
06/05......3.45......16.02 - + Agility class
06/06......4.27......20.29 - + Strength Training
My completed and upcoming Races - Let me know if you will be running too!
02/05/17 - Surf City Half Marathon
07/23/17 - San Francisco 1st Half Marathon
10/14/17 - AIM for the Cure Melanoma 5K Walk/Run
12/16/17 - San Diego Holiday Half Marathon6 -
girlinahat wrote: »Oh, and six days backpacking straight after? I could barely keep my eyes open to WORK after mine.
Agreed... and the blisters... it wasn't horrible for me, but you should probably count on having a few to deal with when hiking and would suggest some anti-chaff balm on any seams, nipples, nether regions especially if it will be hot.1 -
Took a rest day yesterday then did a nice slow 3 mile recovery run on the treadmill this afternoon. Planning a swim for later then a harder ride/run brick for tomorrow, but nothing under a 9 minute pace for at least a week and a half.
6/1 - 2 miles
6/3 - 3.5 miles
6/4 - 13 miles (1:36 run @ IM Raleigh 70.3)
6/6 - 3 miles
Total: 21.5 miles
Goal: 180 miles
Remaining: 158.5 miles
2017 Race Schedule:
1/29 - Chilly Willy Duathlon (1:07:48 - 20:05 1st 5K/21:16 2nd 5K - 1st AG, 3rd Amateur)
2/5 - Best Damn Race 1:50 pacer
5/5 - Pittsburgh Marathon (withdrew at mile 16 - 1:32 split @ 13.1)
6/4 - Ironman 70.3 Raleigh - 4:43/1:36 run - Qualified for Ironman 70.3 World Championships
8/25 - Ironman Coeur D'Alene
9/10 - Ironman 70.3 World Championships
@MNLittleFinn - a 3 mile run with 1 warmup mile + 2 at marathon heart rate to determine my race pace (after 2 rest days) is my usual day before marathon strategy, so a 5k would be perfect for that.
Link for Sunday's race report: https://www.reddit.com/r/triathlon/comments/6fnebl/race_report_im_raleigh_703_44356_again/5 -
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@Ohhim Thanks for the race report. Looks like you did great! Your HM time is pretty darn awesome, and coming at the end of a half IronMan it's even more impressive!
and the input on running the 5k.
I technically only have 1 rest day before the 5k, since my plan has a 5 mile fartlek on Wednesday next week, but I could, move it to 2 days, get 2 solid rest days and then run the 5k on pretty darn fresh legs.2 -
C25K
6/1 W1D3 1.83 mi
6/3 W2D1 2.08 mi
6/5 W2D2 2.11 mi
Total 6.02 mi6
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