Any recommendations for a good colon cleanse?
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tabletop_joe wrote: »A lot of those so-called cleansing products are a clay particle suspension. They clay itself is harmless (though the act of cleansing is not), but when it exits your digestive tract, it looks like you just evacuated a sea creature.
It's snake oil, trickery, slight of hand. Health entertainment. You been had.
I've seen those Bowtrol pictures...thanks for enlightening me. I have bentonite clay for external use and now I'm curious about passing sea creatures, lol.
I was really sick in the 90s and found alternative methods helpful and conventional medicine useless, so I am more open to so-called "woo."
@rdridi12 if I were to try a cleanse I would do the psyllium/bentonite recipe discussed here, using the smaller quantities in the second article:
http://www.astrodreamadvisor.com/Body_B&P.html
http://www.allaboutfasting.com/colon-cleanse-recipe.html0 -
25 grams of Creatine.0
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The problem though is this is not a thing. You have bad information. Colons do not get build up in them which prevents nutrient absorption, you have been told something which is incorrect.Alatariel75 wrote: »And OP - I know we're poking fun, but all of these very silly suggestions for things that will give you diarrhea are just as legitimate as anything that markets itself as a colon cleanse.
It's nothing more than a way to get you to pay money to spend hours on the toilet with cramps. Ask yourself why something which, when unplanned and unexpected is a sickness, is suddenly beneficial when you slot it into your calendar.
No one ever gets over a case of food poisoning and celebrates how clean their colon feels and how detoxed they are.
Never said I was doing it to detox. There are benefits to getting rid of build up in your colon. I'm not talking about doing some salt water flush type of thing to spend 6 hours back and forth between the toilet, I'm talking about a cleanse to help eliminate any build up in my colon to help with nutrient absorption.
No worries though. I'll go elsewhere
Seriously, it won't help you and can potentially harm you by reducing helpful gut flora.
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ronjsteele1 wrote: »
$58 for Curaçao and Cape Aloe Leaf, Senna Leaf and Pod, Cascara Sagrada Aged Bark, Oregon Grape Root, Hawaiian Yellow Ginger Root, Garlic Bulb, Habanero Pepper.
Also, your probiotics don't do what you think they do. You should be thankful your stomach acid prevents microorganisms from going further down your digestive tract. The best way to replenish the good bacteria in your intestinal tract is a poop transplant.
What someone wants to pay for an herbal cleanse (vs. buying the herbs themselves) shouldn't really matter to anyone else. I have huge issues with what a doctor charges to draw my blood and run tests when I can get all the same tests and blood draw done on my own for $50 (vs. $150+). As I said, everyone is out to make money, discernment is wise. Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. My guess is you'd gladly pay $150 to get your blood drawn at the doctors office while I'll gladly pay to have the herbs pre-measured, etc. for me. And neither is wrong. They are both personal choices.
Yes, probiotics do work. Which ones a person uses matters (and determines how far down the digestive tract they make it). You don't know what you think you know about probiotics.
When my kids were little we called this "back door probiotics" because if they had diarrhea the fastest way to stop it was to open a probiotic capsule and use a q-tip to gently put the probiotic powder right at the opening of the *kitten*. Diarrhea stops FAST with this method. So, yes, this is an excellent way to replenish good bacteria and it will even stop diarrhea. BTW, there is one alternative healthcare method (what you guys call "woo") that has been practicing a method of this for years. The medical profession is quite slow at catching up to it. It's quite effective (by far the most effective IMO).
well certain sects of the amish also shove potato up their butts to "help" with hemorrhoids but I dont suggest trying it.I dont see how rubbing probiotic on your (as grandma would say) "your pucker" is going to prevent or stop diarrhea when its caused from an internal issue2 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »I will be honest.. 3 pages and i am shocked nobody has suggested it. As much as i love it too.
Taco bell?
Someone did say Chipotle awhile back...1 -
Halo Top0
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Alatariel75 wrote: »And OP - I know we're poking fun, but all of these very silly suggestions for things that will give you diarrhea are just as legitimate as anything that markets itself as a colon cleanse.
It's nothing more than a way to get you to pay money to spend hours on the toilet with cramps. Ask yourself why something which, when unplanned and unexpected is a sickness, is suddenly beneficial when you slot it into your calendar.
No one ever gets over a case of food poisoning and celebrates how clean their colon feels and how detoxed they are.
I have always had ibs issues. Sometimes this is the only thing that gets me through the hours of intensive labor cramps to deliver those poop babies! You can't take that away from me
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »And OP - I know we're poking fun, but all of these very silly suggestions for things that will give you diarrhea are just as legitimate as anything that markets itself as a colon cleanse.
It's nothing more than a way to get you to pay money to spend hours on the toilet with cramps. Ask yourself why something which, when unplanned and unexpected is a sickness, is suddenly beneficial when you slot it into your calendar.
No one ever gets over a case of food poisoning and celebrates how clean their colon feels and how detoxed they are.
Never said I was doing it to detox. There are benefits to getting rid of build up in your colon. I'm not talking about doing some salt water flush type of thing to spend 6 hours back and forth between the toilet, I'm talking about a cleanse to help eliminate any build up in my colon to help with nutrient absorption.
No worries though. I'll go elsewhere
I almost never fray into these discussions but I'm going to on this one because you people clearly have misconceptions about what a colon cleanse is/does. First off, I've never had a colon cleanse give me diarrhea. I'm sure there are some out there that do that, but a decent one will not. Second, every colon cleanse I've ever done has resulted in nothing more then extra trips to the bathroom to empty the bowel of normal, everyday, waste that has collected and not passed well. Someone is going to say, then why do one? Because the body does get build up in the colon/bowel and a good cleanse will take away the excesses faster and easier then many other methods. After a detox/cleanse I generally experience clearer skin, feel better overall, and have more energy. Fasting will do the same thing. So there is more then one way to skin a cat. Third, I clearly see some people coming here wanting to detox/cleanse as a weight loss method. THAT, does not work, nor does it even make sense.
The body does have its own detox pathways. What y'all fail to "get" is that our bodies also take in via the skin and air (and even the crappy food we sometimes eat), chemicals and waste that are not good for our bodies, nor are our bodies good at eliminating etc. If this weren't the case, then they wouldn't have issues with water contaminated with hormones and antibiotics affecting people's health because everyone would magically eliminate them out. But we don't eliminate out everything. In a perfect world, maybe, but not in this one. An occasional juice detox, fasting (a day or two) detox, whatever, is not necessarily bad for the body. There will always be extremes on both ends of the spectrum, but you guys are on the extreme on the opposite end of a good detox/cleanse. There is a middle ground. It would do you well to find it.
I absolutely support taking probiotics while you're doing a cleanse because you can (and will if you're not careful) kill off your good bacteria which is not the goal. So if you're going to do an herbal cleanse of any type (in particular), always take a good probiotic at night on an empty stomach to replenish your gut (heck, a probiotic daily is just a good idea). This is not so much an issue if you're doing a fresh juice cleanse or regular fasting for a day or two. It is mostly an issue for herbal types of cleanses.
OP, as for a good cleanse, the best one I have ever used is Dr. Schulze's cleanse. It does not taste bad - most are awful. It's really easy to do (it's not time consuming). And it never gave me diarrhea. He makes some crazy claims and I don't endorse his stuff because I believe what he is saying (beyond just it's good for a general detox). I like his cleanse products because of their ingredients and they have been the gentlest and least time consuming of the ones I've tried over the years. The unfortunate reality is that a lot of natural health stuff makes claims they shouldn't because it's the only way to catch people's attention to try alternatives. The true reality is, there are a lot of good natural health things out there that do work well but never gain traction because their voice isn't the loudest and the cost of studies to prove their effectiveness are horribly expensive. And just like the medical world, people are out to make money. Discernment is always a must. Nonetheless, you asked about a cleanse and this is the one I would recommend above others I've used.
As with all things in this world, do your research, know your body (if you're one that does tend easily toward diarrhea then any cleanse you do should be cut in half dosage wise), and be well.
As for the rest of you, I don't even want to hear it. OP asked for an answer and I gave him one. A thorough and balanced answer.
All the best, OP.
Wow! Do you have your poo tested? How do you know you have eliminated said chemicals? Eliminating all bacteria from your gut to get it replaced by ingesting a probiotic? Which probiotic and how does it pass the stomach acid unscathed.
Woo, im sorry I only got halfway through your reply. I'll keep reading if I can.
Finished reading. So you don't want to hear the replies. Got it.
Op, don't listen to this guy.
Yes, seriously. I will recommend a probiotic, though. I know a lot of people are skeptical about them, but I have been suffering from the opposite problem you've had since taking a course of antibiotics a year a half ago and have now sorted those issues out thanks to starting a good probiotic.
If you chronically have issues with constipation, try supplementing with magnesium and upping your intake of fibrous vegetables and whole grains and make sure your fluid intake is good.
I'll second the magnesium supplement. After years of chronic constipation I discovered that 400mg of magnesium and a cup of hot coffee in the mornings keeps things moving on the regular. It's a miracle supplement if you ask me.0 -
Having a regular poop every day is a really fabulous colon cleanse. And as a bonus, it doesn't cost anything more than your regular diet.0
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dale050467 wrote: »Halo Top
doesnt work that way for me lol0 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »Haribo sugar free gummy bears.
Agree - you just need to go slow and find your magic number or you will be very, very sad.... Try 10 at one time and then add a few each day until you go. This is not a long term solution.
I am assuming that this isn't about purging (which is bad) and an inquiry about bowel health in general.
Long term it's better to create the environment where your gut works as it's supposed to (input, process, output) and the weight (solid, liquid, real perceived) will literally fall off because you are more efficiently digesting your food and it's not rotting in your colon.
Something that helps to get your bowel moving is melatonin powder (bulksupplements on Amazon) 1/32 of a teaspoon, because it increases peristalsis (bowel motility) and literally increases the natural antidepressants in your gut and makes you happy. (It's actually recommended for IBS-C patients.) I have no feeling of fullness, sense of can't go, or cramping - I was amazed.
I also try to take at least two teaspoons of pure psyllium seed husk (Bob's Red Mill) and two tablespoons of rice bran powder (Now Brand) every day. I incorporate 1 each psyllium seed husk and rice bran powder in my morning smoothie (pretty much undetectable) and the other dose at night whipped up in warm water (I don't mind the taste) if I don't have it in my lunch (explained below).
This seems to help me immensely to be regular on my low carb diet. I was in a world of hurt before and actually went for a colonic to get things moving again (it worked short term but didn't work long term); so, I went the sugar free gummy bear route the next time just so that I would go until I figured things out. I was literally at the point that all I though about was #2... (TMI - LOL) .
In my searching for a more permanent solution I found things that helped to balance the "bowel milieu":- liquid probiotics (I like American Health unflavored in High Fat Greek Yogurt);
- fermented vegetables like Kimchi and Miso paste (I get these at the local Asian market because they have them cheaper) that I blend with seasonal greens, especially parsley, and veggies and raw apple cider vinegar.
I make up a kind of blended "raw vegetable soup" that I eat at lunch during the week and it's like clock work now.
Another thing to look at adding is sodium butyrate (smells like stinky cheese) because it jump starts your bowel flora and makes things work so much better.
Like good compost, a well-digested #2 smells very different than what you may have been used to.0 -
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A vindaloo generally does it for most people, or some castor oil mixed with pure orange juice.0
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ruqayyahsmum wrote: »dragon_girl26 wrote: »Haribo sugar free gummy bears.
Gummi bears
Pooing here and there and everywhere
High adventures that are beyond compare
They are the gummi bears
And there went my whole childhood...0 -
I don't know if this thread is serious or not, or if there was a resolved concensus... but you can buy an enema kit at the drug store and do an in home enema with just warm water. Do it once a day for 2-3 days and your colon will be sparkly clean on the inside.1
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Geocitiesuser wrote: »I don't know if this thread is serious or not, or if there was a resolved concensus... but you can buy an enema kit at the drug store and do an in home enema with just warm water. Do it once a day for 2-3 days and your colon will be sparkly clean on the inside.
Also makes for a fun response when coworkers ask, "What are your plans tonight?"3 -
ronjsteele1 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »And OP - I know we're poking fun, but all of these very silly suggestions for things that will give you diarrhea are just as legitimate as anything that markets itself as a colon cleanse.
It's nothing more than a way to get you to pay money to spend hours on the toilet with cramps. Ask yourself why something which, when unplanned and unexpected is a sickness, is suddenly beneficial when you slot it into your calendar.
No one ever gets over a case of food poisoning and celebrates how clean their colon feels and how detoxed they are.
Never said I was doing it to detox. There are benefits to getting rid of build up in your colon. I'm not talking about doing some salt water flush type of thing to spend 6 hours back and forth between the toilet, I'm talking about a cleanse to help eliminate any build up in my colon to help with nutrient absorption.
No worries though. I'll go elsewhere
I almost never fray into these discussions but I'm going to on this one because you people clearly have misconceptions about what a colon cleanse is/does. First off, I've never had a colon cleanse give me diarrhea. I'm sure there are some out there that do that, but a decent one will not. Second, every colon cleanse I've ever done has resulted in nothing more then extra trips to the bathroom to empty the bowel of normal, everyday, waste that has collected and not passed well. Someone is going to say, then why do one? Because the body does get build up in the colon/bowel and a good cleanse will take away the excesses faster and easier then many other methods. After a detox/cleanse I generally experience clearer skin, feel better overall, and have more energy. Fasting will do the same thing. So there is more then one way to skin a cat. Third, I clearly see some people coming here wanting to detox/cleanse as a weight loss method. THAT, does not work, nor does it even make sense.
The body does have its own detox pathways. What y'all fail to "get" is that our bodies also take in via the skin and air (and even the crappy food we sometimes eat), chemicals and waste that are not good for our bodies, nor are our bodies good at eliminating etc. If this weren't the case, then they wouldn't have issues with water contaminated with hormones and antibiotics affecting people's health because everyone would magically eliminate them out. But we don't eliminate out everything. In a perfect world, maybe, but not in this one. An occasional juice detox, fasting (a day or two) detox, whatever, is not necessarily bad for the body. There will always be extremes on both ends of the spectrum, but you guys are on the extreme on the opposite end of a good detox/cleanse. There is a middle ground. It would do you well to find it.
I absolutely support taking probiotics while you're doing a cleanse because you can (and will if you're not careful) kill off your good bacteria which is not the goal. So if you're going to do an herbal cleanse of any type (in particular), always take a good probiotic at night on an empty stomach to replenish your gut (heck, a probiotic daily is just a good idea). This is not so much an issue if you're doing a fresh juice cleanse or regular fasting for a day or two. It is mostly an issue for herbal types of cleanses.
OP, as for a good cleanse, the best one I have ever used is Dr. Schulze's cleanse. It does not taste bad - most are awful. It's really easy to do (it's not time consuming). And it never gave me diarrhea. He makes some crazy claims and I don't endorse his stuff because I believe what he is saying (beyond just it's good for a general detox). I like his cleanse products because of their ingredients and they have been the gentlest and least time consuming of the ones I've tried over the years. The unfortunate reality is that a lot of natural health stuff makes claims they shouldn't because it's the only way to catch people's attention to try alternatives. The true reality is, there are a lot of good natural health things out there that do work well but never gain traction because their voice isn't the loudest and the cost of studies to prove their effectiveness are horribly expensive. And just like the medical world, people are out to make money. Discernment is always a must. Nonetheless, you asked about a cleanse and this is the one I would recommend above others I've used.
As with all things in this world, do your research, know your body (if you're one that does tend easily toward diarrhea then any cleanse you do should be cut in half dosage wise), and be well.
As for the rest of you, I don't even want to hear it. OP asked for an answer and I gave him one. A thorough and balanced answer.
All the best, OP.
$58 for Curaçao and Cape Aloe Leaf, Senna Leaf and Pod, Cascara Sagrada Aged Bark, Oregon Grape Root, Hawaiian Yellow Ginger Root, Garlic Bulb, Habanero Pepper.
Senna is a laxative, ginger is supposed to help calm the stomach, habanero will make it burn on the way out to make you really feel like you got rid of toxins, and the rest are to ensure you don't get nasty tasting burps after taking it.
Also, your probiotics don't do what you think they do. You should be thankful your stomach acid prevents microorganisms from going further down your digestive tract. The best way to replenish the good bacteria in your intestinal tract is a poop transplant.
/agree
I cringe whenever I hear anyone looking for a colon cleanse/detox/probiotic.
Eat sauerkraut. Yogurt has a marginal impact. Roughage and fiber to keep the traffic moving, but that's about it.
None of the current medical treatments currently available are above 40% effective. Far too many variables at play in syntrophic gut bacteria relationships and anyone claiming to have a solution is just marketing crap - literally.0 -
Bizarrely, I really would like to see a "sparkly clean colon." Sounds like it's lined with gems or stars.0
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Try a very long bottle brush.1
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Taco Bell and a hose.2
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Something about Japanese hibachi grill does it for me every time0
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