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To answer the original question.
Every PF is a little different. Mine(and many others) are very little different from a regular gym.
Others are hostile towards "lunks"
Where I go...it's my rainy day plan... there's folks doing DLs in the Smith's, there are kettlebells and folks swinging them. No screaming... but an occasional grunt or sigh.2 -
stanmann571 wrote: »SeikoMonster wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »the catch is they don't like people who take their workouts too seriously - no deadlifts, no noises, no supersets, no benching, no overhead press. if you like just cardio I guess it could be ok.
You are incorrect in almost everything you said.
I dead lift, super set, bench and overhead weekly.
They don't want people screaming and dropping weights. If you are referring to that as noise. Actually its nice, not having that guy doing massive 70 pound bench press grunting like he just lifted a car.
It is not the gym to turn you into mr olympia. But for the other 80% of people that don't need more than 75 pound dumbbells, and are okay using a smith machine its a good place.
Cheap, clean, never much if any wait for using a machine or spot to use the dumbbells.
If you think a 70lb bench press is massive, then you're right, Planet Fitness is perfect for you.
Pretty sure that was an ironic use of the word massive.
Because at any gym I've ever been at. It's not the guys doing actually massive lifts(250-400lb) screaming... it's the puffy(not to be confused with fluffy) guy who's doing 70 or 90 lbs. And it's not like he's grunting on the last press he's screaming like he's on the electric chair for 30-90 seconds.
I must have lucked out most of my life with gyms...I've only ever been a member of one like this and it was a Gold's...I've been in and out of gyms most of my life and I've rarely encountered this kind of stuff.
I'm at a small studio gym now that isn't open to the public...pretty much everyone there is just serious business...and Oly lifting is part of what everyone does, including my 70 year old lifting buddy...who would obviously be considered a lunk at PF...super intimidating 70 year old man doing clean and jerks...0 -
I know that type of puffy guy, he's likely on 'roids and uses bro technique. In my gym this type of guy grunts like there is no tomorrow and also drops the weights without reason. I usually ignore them, but sometimes groups of them hog the bench press and lat pull down which is annoying.
Provided the equipment is half decent and you're just beginning (especially for women who tend to start at a lower level than men) it's fine to train with machines, a couple of dumbbells, kettlebells and do some cardio to build up strength and fitness for a year and then switch to another gym if needed. Just make sure you challenge yourself and use progressive overloading like ordinary barbell training. If you don't know whether you'll like strength training it's a bit of a stretch to join an oly or power lifting gym but if it's something you'd like to try out certainly do.0 -
PF is alright. The massage chairs are nice, the equipment is generally well taken care of and clean.
The problem is the lack of barbells makes it quite limited.
But it's alright for light dumbbell workouts and cardio.0 -
I think it depends on the size of the gym and the area you are in. I LOVE the 2 Planet Fitness gyms that I frequent. They actually have up to 150 pound dumb bells but i do not need them. There are also lots of them, but these are both very large gyms. They both have quite a few "lunks" that are members. The Lunk gym in our area closed so they had to go somewhere. I see people with tank tops, carrying jugs of water, and doing the movements that I keep reading you aren't allowed to do. No dead lifts? Really? I do them every week. I hear regular grunting and sometimes someone even drops weights! There are also quite a few personal trainers on staff and they don't mind if you train with your own trainer. I love that it is clean, large, open 24 hours with staff and CHEAP. I pay extra for the massages etc as well. You have to do what works for you!1
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cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »SeikoMonster wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »the catch is they don't like people who take their workouts too seriously - no deadlifts, no noises, no supersets, no benching, no overhead press. if you like just cardio I guess it could be ok.
You are incorrect in almost everything you said.
I dead lift, super set, bench and overhead weekly.
They don't want people screaming and dropping weights. If you are referring to that as noise. Actually its nice, not having that guy doing massive 70 pound bench press grunting like he just lifted a car.
It is not the gym to turn you into mr olympia. But for the other 80% of people that don't need more than 75 pound dumbbells, and are okay using a smith machine its a good place.
Cheap, clean, never much if any wait for using a machine or spot to use the dumbbells.
Lol..."massive 70 Lb bench press"...if a 70 Lb bench press is massive, PF is probably spot on your place to be...
And I read "massive 70 Lb bench press" as a sarcastic dig at grunting showboaters.
Anyone who needs to put some effort into the lift is going to make a little noise...that's not show boating, that's actually working out...and nobody is grunting with 70 Lbs...
I had my wife quit her idiot trainer a few months ago and have her lifting with me now. She has made incredible progress and now benches two 25# plates - so about 95#. She grunts a little on her last few reps of her last set. She'd kill me if I tried to make fun of the weight she was pushing. It's HEAVY for her. It's all relative.12 -
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cwolfman13 wrote: »
Anyone who needs to put some effort into the lift is going to make a little noise...that's not show boating, that's actually working out...and nobody is grunting with 70 Lbs...
The 70 pound massive lift was a true story from yesterday... I am not kidding in the slightest. You would have thought he was lifting a car that was stuck on his chest.
I'm in agreement with you. I can only speak to the 2 PF's I go to. A little grunt or sharp breath as you lift is not a problem at either of them. Its the idiots that are the problem. Ive only had the "Lunk Alarm" go of twice in my 4-5 months there. Some jack wagon intentionally dropped a 60 pound bar bell while doing bicep curls. And the 70 pounder.1 -
I would be in for the client retaining pizza parties $10 a month is a cheap price to pay for a pizza dinner once per week. good commercial quality cardio equipment ain't cheap you could buy about 10 years worth of PF before you bought a treadmill. This all being said PF is certainly not for me. I don't make a ton of noise when I workout but I don't need a siren going off if I grunt through my last rep nor do I need a smith machine forcing me into an unnatural bar path.1
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SeikoMonster wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »
Anyone who needs to put some effort into the lift is going to make a little noise...that's not show boating, that's actually working out...and nobody is grunting with 70 Lbs...
The 70 pound massive lift was a true story from yesterday... I am not kidding in the slightest. You would have thought he was lifting a car that was stuck on his chest.
I'm in agreement with you. I can only speak to the 2 PF's I go to. A little grunt or sharp breath as you lift is not a problem at either of them. Its the idiots that are the problem. Ive only had the "Lunk Alarm" go of twice in my 4-5 months there. Some jack wagon intentionally dropped a 60 pound bar bell while doing bicep curls. And the 70 pounder.
That has always been one of my worst pet peeves. If you drop a weight... I mean really drop it... not just the thunk from putting down the bell or bells after Bench press; I totally understand that 70+ lb dumbells make a sound when they touchdown. It's a thunk not a crash. Don't immediately go up in weight and drop the weight again.
The lift starts and ends at the floor/rack. Be purposeful and deliberate from start to end5 -
It is a great place for cardio, I powerlift at home. For me its convenient and can usually find one when traveling. I do get a kick out of people using the smith machines, but hey they are doing more than most people.0
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thewindandthework wrote: »I stick to machine-based strength training, and cardio machines. there is a freeweight section, but it's smaller when compared to other gyms I've been to, and as mentioned above, they don't want to hear any weights dropping or clanking, and they don't want to hear any loud grunting.
Not just loud grunting. Officially, they don't want to hear even the slightest amount of grunting. Not even loud exhaling.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yp51yc/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-plight-of-muscled-americans
If you're lucky though, the management at your local PF won't be so draconian.
Basically, I'd say that PF is okay for LIGHT cardio and some lighter isolated resistance training. Not very good for the more effective weight training moves that just about everyone should be doing.0 -
Seriously? 70 lbs isn't even a beginner level bench press. That's the exactly the sort of mentality that PF tries to promote -- the notion that people above a beginner level are somehow being excessive.SeikoMonster wrote: »I dead lift, super set, bench and overhead weekly.
They don't want people screaming and dropping weights. If you are referring to that as noise. Actually its nice, not having that guy doing massive 70 pound bench press grunting like he just lifted a car.
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BTW, whatever you do, don't go with their workout recommendations. I kid you not.
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Seriously? 70 lbs isn't even a beginner level bench press. That's the exactly the sort of mentality that PF tries to promote -- the notion that people above a beginner level are somehow being excessive.SeikoMonster wrote: »I dead lift, super set, bench and overhead weekly.
They don't want people screaming and dropping weights. If you are referring to that as noise. Actually its nice, not having that guy doing massive 70 pound bench press grunting like he just lifted a car.
As someone that's working to pass her 75lb bench press and feels darn proud of it can I just say that you might want to be mindful of your tone or at least the way you phrase your argument? I know you're trying to make a point and call out someone else BUT you basically just tore down everyone that's benching under 100lbs in the process.
LOTS of people start off way below 70lb on a bench press.12 -
MsHarryWinston wrote: »
Seriously? 70 lbs isn't even a beginner level bench press. That's the exactly the sort of mentality that PF tries to promote -- the notion that people above a beginner level are somehow being excessive.SeikoMonster wrote: »I dead lift, super set, bench and overhead weekly.
They don't want people screaming and dropping weights. If you are referring to that as noise. Actually its nice, not having that guy doing massive 70 pound bench press grunting like he just lifted a car.
As someone that's working to pass her 75lb bench press and feels darn proud of it can I just say that you might want to watch your tone? I know you're trying to make a point and call out someone else BUT you basically just tore down everyone that's benching under 100lbs in the process.
Ma'm, he was talking about "that guy" doing a 70lb bench press. I understand that some women would reasonably feel proud of a 75lb bench press, but for the majority of men, that's pretty much a warm-up weight for beginners.
Again, for most MEN, it's not even a beginner weight.
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As for screaming during a bench press -- I am skeptical that this story played out exactly as stated, precisely because 70lbs is way too light for even novice male lifters. Even if we grant it to be true though, most people would agree that screaming or grunting excessively during a lift is poor gym etiquette. Same thing with slamming weights to the ground. This is not unique at all to Planet Fitness.
The real problem is that PF goes way overboard. Officially, even light grunting is prohibited, as shown in the video that I posted. Ditto for dropping weights naturally, such as at the end of a heavy dumbbell bench press. This is often the safest thing to do, and the only way to avoid it is to prevent people from working harder.
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MsHarryWinston wrote: »
Seriously? 70 lbs isn't even a beginner level bench press. That's the exactly the sort of mentality that PF tries to promote -- the notion that people above a beginner level are somehow being excessive.SeikoMonster wrote: »I dead lift, super set, bench and overhead weekly.
They don't want people screaming and dropping weights. If you are referring to that as noise. Actually its nice, not having that guy doing massive 70 pound bench press grunting like he just lifted a car.
As someone that's working to pass her 75lb bench press and feels darn proud of it can I just say that you might want to watch your tone? I know you're trying to make a point and call out someone else BUT you basically just tore down everyone that's benching under 100lbs in the process.
Ma'm, he was talking about "that guy" doing a 70lb bench press. I understand that some women would reasonably feel proud of a 75lb bench press, but for the majority of men, that's pretty much a warm-up weight for beginners.
Again, for most MEN, it's not even a beginner weight.
Honestly, I don't think 75lb is a massive amount of weight either way, for men or women. I just thought the way the argument was phrased was kind of crappy and thoughtless. Because lots of women and men are struggling to get there.
Yes, calling 75lb "masssive" is rediculous, though I'm pretty sure it's been established that it was dubbed that ironically. But there's no need to *kitten* on it either to make a point. Because it's just going to make the people in that weight zone reading this thread feel like crap.
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Again, I was not talking about women. The post referred to a man lifting 70lbs, and whether you like it or not, that IS well below a beginner level for men.
You say that "lots of women and men are struggling to get there." I'd really like to see how many men are truly "struggling" to reach the 70lb bench press level. I can guarantee that it's nowhere near a lot.1
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