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Although PF is my secondary gym for mainly cardio, I still feel they are hypocrites. How can you call yourself a "no judgement zone" and judge people that lift heavy. I've been thinking of cancelling my membership, I only go once or twice a week, usually after a lifting session at my other gym. Maybe I'll walk in there wearing a muscle shirt, grunt and drop some weights and they'll kick me out.1
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HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Oh my gawd, a proposed schedule with rest days? Two of them! A week!
It's a crime against humanity.
Please tell me you're not serious. Do you seriously think that people object to these workout programs because they allow for rest days?
Here's a suggestion. Take a good close look at this plan again. Take a look at their proposed exercises for each day, then compare them against, say, the Mayo Clinic's minimum recommendations for basic fitness. Do you notice any discrepancies?
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cwolfman13 wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »SeikoMonster wrote: »I dead lift, super set, bench and overhead weekly.
They don't want people screaming and dropping weights. If you are referring to that as noise. Actually its nice, not having that guy doing massive 70 pound bench press grunting like he just lifted a car.
As someone that's working to pass her 75lb bench press and feels darn proud of it can I just say that you might want to be mindful of your tone or at least the way you phrase your argument? I know you're trying to make a point and call out someone else BUT you basically just tore down everyone that's benching under 100lbs in the process.
LOTS of people start off way below 70lb on a bench press.
Context, context, context...the response was to a post that was specifically about a "dude"....context of discussion is kind of important.
Outside of a brand new lifter, most guys aren't going to have an issue with 70 Lbs...and even if they are brand new, 70 Lbs won't be much issue for very long.
Correct. In fact, even most beginners can start with much more weight than that.
Here are some typical bench press standards. Note that unless you're an absolute beginner and really tiny -- somewhere around 125 lbs -- you should be able to bench more than just 70lbs. Of course, there will be exceptions, but that's a decent general guideline.
I find it mindboggling that when we can talk about the typical strength capabilities for men, there will be people who protest, "Wait a minute! I'm a woman, and I can't lift that much! You're insulting me!"
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piperdown44 wrote: »If I miss a squat or DL day at work I can find other ways to get a solid leg day in. Sometimes you have to be creative. Like doing RDL on the smith machines they have. Or front squats like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8O2ziMeiA
I hate to break it to you, but that's not a front squat. In fact, it's the opposite.
As for doing RDLs in a Smith machine, I wouldn't recommend it. Opinions differ, but I personally believe that it imposes an unnatural plane of motion. I'd be concerned about causing injury that way, especially if you go heavy (as one typically should for the deadlift to be effective).1 -
piperdown44 wrote: »Nothing wrong with the PF by me. I get most of my heavy lifting done at my workplace gym. Those days I can't make it over or if I want a weekend session I can accomplish a good lifting session there. There are some fairly muscular people at the one I go to and they work hard when they are there. About the only no-no I've heard tell about is the spaghetti strap tanks.
If I miss a squat or DL day at work I can find other ways to get a solid leg day in. Sometimes you have to be creative. Like doing RDL on the smith machines they have. Or front squats like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8O2ziMeiA
That's not a front squat.1 -
piperdown44 wrote: »If I miss a squat or DL day at work I can find other ways to get a solid leg day in. Sometimes you have to be creative. Like doing RDL on the smith machines they have. Or front squats like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8O2ziMeiA
I hate to break it to you, but that's not a front squat. In fact, it's the opposite.
As for doing RDLs in a Smith machine, I wouldn't recommend it. Opinions differ, but I personally believe that it imposes an unnatural plane of motion. I'd be concerned about causing injury that way, especially if you go heavy (as one typically should for the deadlift to be effective).
Just curious about what you think is the unnatural about the plane of motion during an RDL in a smith machine.0 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »If I miss a squat or DL day at work I can find other ways to get a solid leg day in. Sometimes you have to be creative. Like doing RDL on the smith machines they have. Or front squats like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8O2ziMeiA
I hate to break it to you, but that's not a front squat. In fact, it's the opposite.
As for doing RDLs in a Smith machine, I wouldn't recommend it. Opinions differ, but I personally believe that it imposes an unnatural plane of motion. I'd be concerned about causing injury that way, especially if you go heavy (as one typically should for the deadlift to be effective).
Just curious about what you think is the unnatural about the plane of motion during an RDL in a smith machine.
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RAD_Fitness wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »If I miss a squat or DL day at work I can find other ways to get a solid leg day in. Sometimes you have to be creative. Like doing RDL on the smith machines they have. Or front squats like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8O2ziMeiA
I hate to break it to you, but that's not a front squat. In fact, it's the opposite.
As for doing RDLs in a Smith machine, I wouldn't recommend it. Opinions differ, but I personally believe that it imposes an unnatural plane of motion. I'd be concerned about causing injury that way, especially if you go heavy (as one typically should for the deadlift to be effective).
Just curious about what you think is the unnatural about the plane of motion during an RDL in a smith machine.
I mean it's in a fixed plane of motion. Doesn't necessarily make it an unnatural plane of motion. Just like any machine. More stability, which allows you to add a heavier weight, but you are not required to balance which makes it less work for the smaller muscles that would be used to keep balance and stabilize. It's not better or wore per say, but having to choose one, generally you'd want to choose a free standing exercise if you had to choose one or the other. But if you are just not able to do a regular barbell squat or barbell RDL, a smith machine is better than not if you are using safe and effective form/muscle contraction.0 -
HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Oh my gawd, a proposed schedule with rest days? Two of them! A week!
It's a crime against humanity.
Please tell me you're not serious. Do you seriously think that people object to these workout programs because they allow for rest days?
Here's a suggestion. Take a good close look at this plan again. Take a look at their proposed exercises for each day, then compare them against, say, the Mayo Clinic's minimum recommendations for basic fitness. Do you notice any discrepancies?
I can't take criticism of any work-out schedule seriously if it solely consists of ragging on a jazzed-up rest day.
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HeliumIsNoble wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Oh my gawd, a proposed schedule with rest days? Two of them! A week!
It's a crime against humanity.
Please tell me you're not serious. Do you seriously think that people object to these workout programs because they allow for rest days?
Here's a suggestion. Take a good close look at this plan again. Take a look at their proposed exercises for each day, then compare them against, say, the Mayo Clinic's minimum recommendations for basic fitness. Do you notice any discrepancies?
I can't take criticism of any work-out schedule seriously if it solely consists of ragging on a jazzed-up rest day.
First, while the image in question does draw attention to the tanning days, nowhere does it state that it "solely consist of ragging on a jazzed-up rest day." If anything, it should be obvious that there are multiple problems with these workout plans. The notion that this is the ONLY problem I have with these plans is pure supposition, unsupported by actual evidence.
Second, these workout plans amount to an ENTIRE WEEK of rest days. The overwhelming majority of the exercises prescribed (ten measly crunches, for example) amount to practically nothing. Are they more demanding that lying in a tanning bed? Technically, sure, but barely so. Even 20 minutes on a treadmill would still be a legitimate rest day for anyone who's not purely sedentary.
For that matter, it's noteworthy that the tanning days weren't even labeled as rest days. Whoever prescribed these plans obviously knows what a rest day is, as evidenced by the "Saturday relax" entry.
And third, the fact that they prescribe tanning AT ALL is a problem in itself. Do we need to explain why?
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HeliumIsNoble wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Oh my gawd, a proposed schedule with rest days? Two of them! A week!
It's a crime against humanity.
Please tell me you're not serious. Do you seriously think that people object to these workout programs because they allow for rest days?
Here's a suggestion. Take a good close look at this plan again. Take a look at their proposed exercises for each day, then compare them against, say, the Mayo Clinic's minimum recommendations for basic fitness. Do you notice any discrepancies?
I can't take criticism of any work-out schedule seriously if it solely consists of ragging on a jazzed-up rest day.
First, while the image in question does draw attention to the tanning days, nowhere does it state that it "solely consist of ragging on a jazzed-up rest day." If anything, it should be obvious that there are multiple problems with these workout plans. The notion that this is the ONLY problem I have with these plans is pure supposition, unsupported by actual evidence.
Second, these workout plans amount to an ENTIRE WEEK of rest days. The overwhelming majority of the exercises prescribed (ten measly crunches, for example) amount to practically nothing. Are they more demanding that lying in a tanning bed? Technically, sure, but barely so. Even 20 minutes on a treadmill would still be a legitimate rest day for anyone who's not purely sedentary.
For that matter, it's noteworthy that the tanning days weren't even labeled as rest days. Whoever prescribed these plans obviously knows what a rest day is, as evidenced by the "Saturday relax" entry.
And third, the fact that they prescribe tanning AT ALL is a problem in itself. Do we need to explain why?
I'm characterising that image as 'solely consist[ing] of ragging on a jazzed-up rest day'. It naturally wouldn't describe itself so derisively. Or perhaps it would. I don't know how seriously the dude/dudette wielding MS Paint took their work.
But that is what that image is. It's a cheap shot, wholly without substance or merit, and probably only intended as a light quip, and not as a serious concern.
But if you take it seriously as an argument, I could find any Proper Workout Plan For Proper Athletes du jour, copy-and-paste the entries and then put "five minutes tanning" for one of the rest days, and that ridiculous tagline would then apply equally to the slightly amended Proper Workout Plan.
So, in conclusion, it's nonsense, and I responded to it in that spirit. It makes no claims of substance about the entries for the other days of the week, and I will not pretend it did!0 -
My hubby and I just left our old local gym. They tried rebranding into an "athletic club" and wanted exorbitant fees. Hardly worth it when the showers never ran warm, the water fountain was broken every other week, and a quarter of their equipment was busted on a regular basis. Anyway, we looked into the planet fitness in our town because of how cheap it was. When we were getting the tour, the employee seemed quite put off that I inquired about a pull up bar, deadlift equip, etc. And I was put off that she recommended I don't wear strappy tops or strappy sports bras that showed under a top. I get not wanting people to work out in essentially underwear, but it felt like I was in high school again with the dress code. We decided it seemed like a nice gym for a beginner or gym goer who would mainly do cardio. But it didn't have the equipment we wanted for our needs. There's my two cents.3
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piperdown44 wrote: »If I miss a squat or DL day at work I can find other ways to get a solid leg day in. Sometimes you have to be creative. Like doing RDL on the smith machines they have. Or front squats like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8O2ziMeiA
I hate to break it to you, but that's not a front squat. In fact, it's the opposite.
As for doing RDLs in a Smith machine, I wouldn't recommend it. Opinions differ, but I personally believe that it imposes an unnatural plane of motion. I'd be concerned about causing injury that way, especially if you go heavy (as one typically should for the deadlift to be effective).
Yes, I realize that's not a front squat. I miswrote. But whatever it's called it still hits the front quads quite hard.
As for RDL, I do them both free style BB and, when I need to, at PF using the smith machine. I can't tell any difference between using the BB or the smith machine for RDL. Back squats in smith machine, no way, but for RDL it's fine.
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Haven't ventured into this space yet but our PF has something similar in a room off to the side. One of these days I'm going to try those battle ropes and also the jump platform.
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doittoitgirl wrote: »My hubby and I just left our old local gym. They tried rebranding into an "athletic club" and wanted exorbitant fees. Hardly worth it when the showers never ran warm, the water fountain was broken every other week, and a quarter of their equipment was busted on a regular basis. Anyway, we looked into the planet fitness in our town because of how cheap it was. When we were getting the tour, the employee seemed quite put off that I inquired about a pull up bar, deadlift equip, etc. And I was put off that she recommended I don't wear strappy tops or strappy sports bras that showed under a top. I get not wanting people to work out in essentially underwear, but it felt like I was in high school again with the dress code. We decided it seemed like a nice gym for a beginner or gym goer who would mainly do cardio. But it didn't have the equipment we wanted for our needs. There's my two cents.
That was my impression too when I checked out a local PF some years ago. It was filled with rows of cardio machines, and the freeweight area consisted of a rack of dumbbells that only went up to like 60 lbs. and a couple of adjustable benches. That was also where the lunk alarm was conveniently located, which seemed awfully judgmental for a "judgment-free zone". I was a triathlete at the time and coming from a cycling background I was pretty lean, and I was a bit put off by the employee showing me around who wouldn't stop going on about losing weight, despite me frequently reminding her that wasn't my goal.
It's interesting to hear that other locations do have barbells and racks, I assumed that since it was a chain that all locations would be pretty much the same. I didn't join because it simply wouldn't meet my goals, but it may be a good fit for someone mainly looking to do cardio.
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piperdown44 wrote: »Haven't ventured into this space yet but our PF has something similar in a room off to the side. One of these days I'm going to try those battle ropes and also the jump platform.
That equipment looks gymtimidating2 -
stanmann571 wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »Haven't ventured into this space yet but our PF has something similar in a room off to the side. One of these days I'm going to try those battle ropes and also the jump platform.
That equipment looks gymtimidating
Not so much when you get close and see it for the various independent stations thereof. There should be little cards by each station with pictures showing its use and muscles exercised thereby.0 -
70 lbs is a basic physical ability. I've never been at a job that didn't include the phrase "Able to lift 70 lbs objects" as part of the job requirements/description. Seriously, even as a security officer when I was at college, working in a hospital as a manager, any office job that I've ever applied too. Was part of the description for applying as a postal carrier. I spent nearly a year & a half out of steady employment work when the economy tanked & applied to thousands of jobs & it was on the job description for a majority of them.
I don't think PF is a bad place to be if you just need somewhere to work out & you don't have space or can't afford to have a piece of equipment or two at home. $10 a month for 12 months wont cover the cost of even a crappy treadmill. Outside of doing light lifting or cardio, it's probably not what you're looking for. If that's all you need though, it's probably an ok option. Just don't get all grunty & lunky while your there. LOL0 -
LOL @planet fitness1
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Since there are no lunks allowed, there wouldn't be an hottie lady lunks either, and that would be disappointing...
Samantha Wright is one bad *kitten* mama jama!!!
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It really is $10 or $20 depending on your plan. There may be a start up fee or a cancel fee but it was like $80 or something.... PF is very affordable compared to other gyms.0
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Wow. I've never been to one and know lots of people who do... I had no idea it was *what sounds like* a stress-inducing carnival of rules! And here I thought my local YMCA was probably lacking and I just didn't realize it! Geez, we can hear dudes screaming up on the cardio floor and even in the studios for class sometimes!
And "no strappy tops or tops that show straps"? Ummm, that's literally 98% of women's workout wear. What are you supposed to wear?? Sweats and a tee shirt? Strappy, open backs are in style IN GENERAL for women right now. Now I'm realizing the "Christian Values" YMCA is quite liberal for this strappy-bra and see-through top-wearing Atheist! I'd slap someone's face off if they commented on my attire at $70 per month. But even at $10...how is ANY of that (lug-light, dress code, anti-heavy lifts) "a judgement free zone"?? Or any of their business (your clothes)? I mean, if you're not nude, what's the problem?
I'm totally shocked. I thought PF was meant to be welcoming and easy going/friendly from the ads. Not *what sounds like* the 7th Circle of Hell. I thought that's what Summer at the Y was for because of navigating through children in hoards attending the Camp!1 -
Wasn't a fan of Planet Fitness at all.
First red flag was when they asked an in shape women in a tank top to cover herself up more because it made other people "not feel good about themselves".
Second red flag was the majority of the people at my location were overweight to obese range and the gym served them pizza, donuts, and bagels. I adjusted the times I would work out because it kind of made me sick watching a gym serve people with eating problems pizza and donuts. I literally watched an obese man eat a slice of pizza sitting on a weight machine.
Third red flag that made me never go back was watching a woman get kicked out after somebody rang the lunk alarm on her for being "intimidating". The woman who was just working out was in her own world, wasn't even being loud. I was seriously confused on how she was being "intimidating".
I lasted about 10 days there, switched to a gym called EoS Fitness and it's been amazing.
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Sometimes I think my gym could use a lunk alarm when *kitten* drop the bar at the top of a deadlift...for reps.1
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HeliumIsNoble wrote: »
But if you take it seriously as an argument, I could find any Proper Workout Plan For Proper Athletes du jour, copy-and-paste the entries and then put "five minutes tanning" for one of the rest days, and that ridiculous tagline would then apply equally to the slightly amended Proper Workout Plan.
So, in conclusion, it's nonsense, and I responded to it in that spirit. It makes no claims of substance about the entries for the other days of the week, and I will not pretend it did!
Your entire defense of PF is predicated on the notion that these tanning days -- something that has no place in a proper fitness plan -- are meant as "rest days." Rest from what, exactly? Those measly five squats? Those oh-so-exhausting ten crunches? These tanning days are scarcely any less vigorous than those "workouts," so it takes tremendous mental gymnastics to justify them as "rest days."
Obviously, the tagline in question uses hyperbole. It is simply bizarre that you take outrage at this hyperbole, but not at the fact that they're recommending workout plans that amount to diddly squat. Or the over-the-top way in which they characterize bodybuilders and other fit individuals as lunks and horrible people.
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I think a lot of people in this thread are confusing the culture and philosophy of PF with the ability to use a gym for $10 a month.
The free pizza day and tootsie rolls, stupid minimalist workout goals, etc are contrary to getting in shape.
Guess what? YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT!!!!
If you can live with 75 pound dumbbells, and smith machines. Its a great place! My goal like 90% of people that go to the gym is to improve myself physically. Not to become a power lifter. I can do 99.9% of all workouts I've looked into from bodybuilding.com at my PF. Some slight modifications but nothing too serious.
They have all the equipment, its clean, and minimal if any wait ever. With the added benefit of tons of cardio machines. Again I can only speak to the two I go to, but Ive seen all fitness levels from the 80+ year old woman who has had a stroke, to the power lifter putting up 300+ pounds on his bench press.
Ignore the "philosophy" surrounding it, walk in, do your work and become better.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »SeikoMonster wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »the catch is they don't like people who take their workouts too seriously - no deadlifts, no noises, no supersets, no benching, no overhead press. if you like just cardio I guess it could be ok.
You are incorrect in almost everything you said.
I dead lift, super set, bench and overhead weekly.
They don't want people screaming and dropping weights. If you are referring to that as noise. Actually its nice, not having that guy doing massive 70 pound bench press grunting like he just lifted a car.
It is not the gym to turn you into mr olympia. But for the other 80% of people that don't need more than 75 pound dumbbells, and are okay using a smith machine its a good place.
Cheap, clean, never much if any wait for using a machine or spot to use the dumbbells.
Lol..."massive 70 Lb bench press"...if a 70 Lb bench press is massive, PF is probably spot on your place to be. My bench is in no way impressive, but far more than 70 Lbs...
And a deadlift is always going to clank when it hits the floor...I can't imagine you're deadlifting much without bumpers and a platform.
Note that I'm a cycling enthusiast and not at all a big "lunk" body builder or anything like that...but the notion of someone training hard enough to need to grunt a little to get the weight up being offensive is why PF is ridiculous...if you don't have to work at it, you're not pushing or pulling enough weight...you're spinning your wheels.
Lol, I've been stressing over my bench as it's plateaued at 43kg (95lb) for the last couple months, feel better now I know that 70lb is massive
(yes I know 70lb isn't massive, I'm in awe of the guys at my gym that stick the 20kg plates on the bar for their warm up sets)
(Oh and sorry I grunt, well make a sort of "pschaaar" noise when I'm lifting near my 1rpm)0 -
HeliumIsNoble wrote: »
But if you take it seriously as an argument, I could find any Proper Workout Plan For Proper Athletes du jour, copy-and-paste the entries and then put "five minutes tanning" for one of the rest days, and that ridiculous tagline would then apply equally to the slightly amended Proper Workout Plan.
So, in conclusion, it's nonsense, and I responded to it in that spirit. It makes no claims of substance about the entries for the other days of the week, and I will not pretend it did!
Your entire defense of PF is predicated on the notion that these tanning days -- something that has no place in a proper fitness plan -- are meant as "rest days." Rest from what, exactly? Those measly five squats? Those oh-so-exhausting ten crunches? These tanning days are scarcely any less vigorous than those "workouts," so it takes tremendous mental gymnastics to justify them as "rest days."
Obviously, the tagline in question uses hyperbole. It is simply bizarre that you take outrage at this hyperbole, but not at the fact that they're recommending workout plans that amount to diddly squat. Or the over-the-top way in which they characterize bodybuilders and other fit individuals as lunks and horrible people.
You've spent a couple of posts now trying to defend the image's... academic credibility on the grounds of what it didn't say. Are you enjoying this?
Is it your image, perchance?
In that case, let me say this really, really, really, really, really clearly. It doesn't matter what logical justifications for finding fault with the work-out plan were going through your head when you fiddled around with your image editor. What matters is the words you actually type.
You cannot go for such frivolous, lighthearted quips and then reasonably expect it to be treated like a work of great scientific value. 'Specially not on the internet.
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »the catch is they don't like people who take their workouts too seriously - no deadlifts, no noises, no supersets, no benching, no overhead press. if you like just cardio I guess it could be ok.
Hahaha was yours ran by Hitler?
I went to planet fitness and the only rule was no judging0 -
I used planet fitness. 10$ a month no contract canceled whenever I wanted which I did twice for moving reasons.
It might depend who runs yours
But mine allowed deadlifts, bench pressing, they had a good weight section, you could grunt and love the mirror all you wanted but yes they had a huge cardio section.
It was worth the money.0
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