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What the Health?
Fitblkorchid
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I am wondering if any of you watched the documentary What the Health? What are your thoughts?
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Vegan propaganda at its finest.18
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Even the vegans i know think it was shameful bullcrap.20
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I think frying up cigarettes to eat and saying meat is equivalent is pretty over the top... scare tactics like that should pretty much clue you in as to whether or not you're being informed or just being fear mongered.
Its vegan agenda biased.
Really, any documentary on any topic needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt... they are almost always biased and serve one agenda or another. Documentaries can be entertaining, but they're not particularly reliable sources for information.16 -
I haven't seen it, but I've read enough about it to conclude it's not a reliable source of information.5
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I couldn't get more than 15 minutes into it. Overdramatized, poorly backed, rubbish.10
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Was,too busy grilling New York Strip to give it full attention
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Here are two pretty good take downs of all the problems with the film:
https://vox.com/science-and-health/2017/7/25/16018658/what-the-health-documentary-review-vegan-diet
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-health-a-movie-with-an-agenda/7 -
My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own research and as mentioned above to take some things with a grain of salt. While often shown over dramatically there were many valid and researched positions. I personally don’t think anyone who is not already open to adopting a plant based diet would decide to go vegan off of a documentary, but what I have seen is people wanting to incorporate more fruits and veggies into their diets…which I think everyone can agree is a positive thing for people’s health.
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
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My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
Or..you can have a sense of humor, life is too short to take oneself so serious19 -
My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
Or..you can have a sense of humor, life is too short to take oneself so serious
I'd have a sense of humor if I didn't hear this multiple times a day, every day.
For some reason it's the only thing Omi people like to say/joke about vegans. I understand that you will not know my frustration as it is not something you have had to deal with, but take my word for it.18 -
My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
Or..you can have a sense of humor, life is too short to take oneself so serious
I'd have a sense of humor if I didn't hear this multiple times a day, every day.
For some reason it's the only thing Omi people like to say/joke about vegans. I understand that you will not know my frustration as it is not something you have had to deal with, but take my word for it.
Yup ya right, my 48 years of life experiences, dealing with abuse, loss, death, addiction, recovery and learning the VALUE of laughing it off makes me unqualified to understand your frustration. Enjoy the day!27 -
My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own research and as mentioned above to take some things with a grain of salt. While often shown over dramatically there were many valid and researched positions. I personally don’t think anyone who is not already open to adopting a plant based diet would decide to go vegan off of a documentary, but what I have seen is people wanting to incorporate more fruits and veggies into their diets…which I think everyone can agree is a positive thing for people’s health.
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
You must have missed the other threads about this 'documentary', where people have indeed claimed their new found 'veganism' is due to watching it. The film plays off of people's fear and intentionally misleads to push an agenda.14 -
My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
Or..you can have a sense of humor, life is too short to take oneself so serious
I'd have a sense of humor if I didn't hear this multiple times a day, every day.
For some reason it's the only thing Omi people like to say/joke about vegans. I understand that you will not know my frustration as it is not something you have had to deal with, but take my word for it.
Yup ya right, my 48 years of life experiences, dealing with abuse, loss, death, addiction, recovery and learning the VALUE of laughing it off makes me unqualified to understand your frustration. Enjoy the day!
Get it right...frustration over salads.5 -
OliveGirl128 wrote: »My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own research and as mentioned above to take some things with a grain of salt. While often shown over dramatically there were many valid and researched positions. I personally don’t think anyone who is not already open to adopting a plant based diet would decide to go vegan off of a documentary, but what I have seen is people wanting to incorporate more fruits and veggies into their diets…which I think everyone can agree is a positive thing for people’s health.
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
You must have missed the other threads about this 'documentary', where people have indeed claimed their new found 'veganism' is due to watching it. The film plays off of people's fear and intentionally misleads to push an agenda.
I was at a Costco and there was a guy there demoing the Vitamix, and we got into a discussion. He was so vegan that any thought of meat or animal products was anathema, and he told me, with this weird gleam in his eye, red meat was going to give me cancer. I felt like I was talking to a fanatic.7 -
theresejesu wrote: »OliveGirl128 wrote: »My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own research and as mentioned above to take some things with a grain of salt. While often shown over dramatically there were many valid and researched positions. I personally don’t think anyone who is not already open to adopting a plant based diet would decide to go vegan off of a documentary, but what I have seen is people wanting to incorporate more fruits and veggies into their diets…which I think everyone can agree is a positive thing for people’s health.
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
You must have missed the other threads about this 'documentary', where people have indeed claimed their new found 'veganism' is due to watching it. The film plays off of people's fear and intentionally misleads to push an agenda.
I was at a Costco and there was a guy there demoing the Vitamix, and we got into a discussion. He was so vegan that any thought of meat or animal products was anathema, and he told me, with this weird gleam in his eye, red meat was going to give me cancer. I felt like I was talking to a fanatic.
Gosh. Good job there's no-one round here doing that with lectin containing foods isn't it!? Last thing we need along with evangelical vegans and low carbers etc.31 -
VintageFeline wrote: »theresejesu wrote: »OliveGirl128 wrote: »My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own research and as mentioned above to take some things with a grain of salt. While often shown over dramatically there were many valid and researched positions. I personally don’t think anyone who is not already open to adopting a plant based diet would decide to go vegan off of a documentary, but what I have seen is people wanting to incorporate more fruits and veggies into their diets…which I think everyone can agree is a positive thing for people’s health.
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
You must have missed the other threads about this 'documentary', where people have indeed claimed their new found 'veganism' is due to watching it. The film plays off of people's fear and intentionally misleads to push an agenda.
I was at a Costco and there was a guy there demoing the Vitamix, and we got into a discussion. He was so vegan that any thought of meat or animal products was anathema, and he told me, with this weird gleam in his eye, red meat was going to give me cancer. I felt like I was talking to a fanatic.
Gosh. Good job there's no-one round here doing that with lectin containing foods isn't it!? Last thing we need along with evangelical vegans and low carbers etc.
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ETA: I should clarify the :noway: is for any additional preaching of the must dos for weight loss/health/etc.1 -
My vegan agenda and I enjoyed the film. I do think though as with any food or health documentary you need to do your own research and as mentioned above to take some things with a grain of salt. While often shown over dramatically there were many valid and researched positions. I personally don’t think anyone who is not already open to adopting a plant based diet would decide to go vegan off of a documentary, but what I have seen is people wanting to incorporate more fruits and veggies into their diets…which I think everyone can agree is a positive thing for people’s health.
Nota bene: Steak/bacon/burger jokes? Are we still doing this? I think there are ways to share your opinions without demeaning or making fun of others beliefs.
Interesting.6 -
I'm a vegan and I think this documentary is bad and makes vegans look crazy.
If people are going to make things like this it should be based solely on evidence otherwise what is the point18
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