Tips & Tricks: Food Hacks
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I made an amazing lasagna using Butternut Squash sheets rather than lasagna noodles. I was expecting it to be horrible (I'm not a veggie lover) but it was amazing. I'd almost say better than normal lasagna. Will be making it again for sure. I bought them from Tesco. As long as they make them I will be experimenting with them for more recipies
I was thinking of trying this with zucchini, but I think I like the idea of butternut squash better (flavor wise).
Also, the zuke tends to cook to mush by the time the sauce & cheese get bubbly.1 -
I made an amazing lasagna using Butternut Squash sheets rather than lasagna noodles. I was expecting it to be horrible (I'm not a veggie lover) but it was amazing. I'd almost say better than normal lasagna. Will be making it again for sure. I bought them from Tesco. As long as they make them I will be experimenting with them for more recipies
I was thinking of trying this with zucchini, but I think I like the idea of butternut squash better (flavor wise).
Also, the zuke tends to cook to mush by the time the sauce & cheese get bubbly.
Good to know, because that would be a real turn off. I wonder if the same thing happens with eggplant.1 -
If I want a really big plate of food for not a lot of calories, I go with spaghetti squash with mushroom sauce. Both of those are shockingly low in calories and very filling.1
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I made an amazing lasagna using Butternut Squash sheets rather than lasagna noodles. I was expecting it to be horrible (I'm not a veggie lover) but it was amazing. I'd almost say better than normal lasagna. Will be making it again for sure. I bought them from Tesco. As long as they make them I will be experimenting with them for more recipies
I was thinking of trying this with zucchini, but I think I like the idea of butternut squash better (flavor wise).
Also, the zuke tends to cook to mush by the time the sauce & cheese get bubbly.
Good to know, because that would be a real turn off. I wonder if the same thing happens with eggplant.
Not quite as bad, and the eggplant's rich flavor is some compensation, unlike the mild zucchini. Maybe cut eggplant on the thicker side (1/2"+). Or cut the eggplant in half, hollow it some, and stuff/top the eggplant with the sauce/cheese instead.
Edited to add: One think I haven't tried, but should, is semi-dehydrating the eggplant slices in a slow oven before subbing them for the pasta.1 -
I made an amazing lasagna using Butternut Squash sheets rather than lasagna noodles. I was expecting it to be horrible (I'm not a veggie lover) but it was amazing. I'd almost say better than normal lasagna. Will be making it again for sure. I bought them from Tesco. As long as they make them I will be experimenting with them for more recipies
When you say 'butternut squash sheets' do you mean you sliced a butternut squash thinly or is this a premade product that you bought? Was it just squash or was there some type of flour added?1 -
myfitnessjourneyto180 wrote: »
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
I agree, but sometimes if I'm craving mcdonalds, 3 junior chickens, fries, and water is just enough to hit my calorie count for the day (close to 1500). Personally, i have the self-control to do this. However, 6-calorie jello, diet soda (aspartame-free), 4 plates of zucchini noodles, with 50 small shrimps and spices, shredded low-calorie mozzarella, a medium plate of skinny pop popcorn, a 20-calorie popsicle, and a fiber one bar is much more filling and tastes pretty damn good. It's also less than a 1000 calories btw. Just saying XD
Well you could just have one junior chicken (what is it anyway?) instead of 3.
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
No, not really. When you really want cheesecake, unless you're a weirdo who's actually satisfied with a couple bites, good luck fitting 800+ non filling calories in your day if you're on a 1400 calories meal plan (even only 400 calories of cheesecake really isn't a big serving, lol).
That's what bothers me about the 'eat what you want within your calories'. It's just impossible to do for some people, because they only like high calorie foods that are not necessarily filling. Sometimes, a diet change IS necessary.
You can bank calories for that cheesecake.
Just saying.
I did that when I first started and was much more sedentary and wanted a very large calorie bomb item.
The trick is to not have a woe is me attitude because those types of indulgences are limited to special occasions.
They're supposed to be for special occasions.6 -
I made an amazing lasagna using Butternut Squash sheets rather than lasagna noodles. I was expecting it to be horrible (I'm not a veggie lover) but it was amazing. I'd almost say better than normal lasagna. Will be making it again for sure. I bought them from Tesco. As long as they make them I will be experimenting with them for more recipies
I was thinking of trying this with zucchini, but I think I like the idea of butternut squash better (flavor wise).
Also, the zuke tends to cook to mush by the time the sauce & cheese get bubbly.
Good to know, because that would be a real turn off. I wonder if the same thing happens with eggplant.
Isn't that almost moussaka? So should work ok?1 -
I made an amazing lasagna using Butternut Squash sheets rather than lasagna noodles. I was expecting it to be horrible (I'm not a veggie lover) but it was amazing. I'd almost say better than normal lasagna. Will be making it again for sure. I bought them from Tesco. As long as they make them I will be experimenting with them for more recipies
I was thinking of trying this with zucchini, but I think I like the idea of butternut squash better (flavor wise).
Also, the zuke tends to cook to mush by the time the sauce & cheese get bubbly.
I've made it with eggplant that I roasted first. It was DELICIOUS. Since the eggplant was pre-roasted, it didn't get overly mushy.
Edit: I see someone asked about the eggplant. I sliced thick and pre-roasted for about 20 minutes. Worked a treat.2 -
I love mashed potatoes. I need a huge mound of mash on my plate or it just doesn't cut it for me. I would easily eat 300gm mash with meat and veges.
But I also love baby minted peas. So now I weigh 100 to 150gms of mashed potatoes and mix in 90gm of peas and I have a huge mound of delicious mashed potato on my plate.
That's my best yummy food hack that I have been doing for years now.2 -
I made an amazing lasagna using Butternut Squash sheets rather than lasagna noodles. I was expecting it to be horrible (I'm not a veggie lover) but it was amazing. I'd almost say better than normal lasagna. Will be making it again for sure. I bought them from Tesco. As long as they make them I will be experimenting with them for more recipies
I was thinking of trying this with zucchini, but I think I like the idea of butternut squash better (flavor wise).
Also, the zuke tends to cook to mush by the time the sauce & cheese get bubbly.
Good to know, because that would be a real turn off. I wonder if the same thing happens with eggplant.
Isn't that almost moussaka? So should work ok?
Maybe slightly like moussaka, but that usually has bechamel in it, so comes out a slightly more souffle-ish texture, vs. the lasagna formula potentially coming out heavier/mushier.0 -
myfitnessjourneyto180 wrote: »
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
I agree, but sometimes if I'm craving mcdonalds, 3 junior chickens, fries, and water is just enough to hit my calorie count for the day (close to 1500). Personally, i have the self-control to do this. However, 6-calorie jello, diet soda (aspartame-free), 4 plates of zucchini noodles, with 50 small shrimps and spices, shredded low-calorie mozzarella, a medium plate of skinny pop popcorn, a 20-calorie popsicle, and a fiber one bar is much more filling and tastes pretty damn good. It's also less than a 1000 calories btw. Just saying XD
Well you could just have one junior chicken (what is it anyway?) instead of 3.
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
No, not really. When you really want cheesecake, unless you're a weirdo who's actually satisfied with a couple bites, good luck fitting 800+ non filling calories in your day if you're on a 1400 calories meal plan (even only 400 calories of cheesecake really isn't a big serving, lol).
That's what bothers me about the 'eat what you want within your calories'. It's just impossible to do for some people, because they only like high calorie foods that are not necessarily filling. Sometimes, a diet change IS necessary.
if you can't eat a small piece of cheesecake and be satisfied with it then yes, that is a control issue...sorry, but that is the truth...
nice straw man argument about fitting in 800 non filling calories into a 1400 calorie day. When people say eat what you like, it means meet your other goals first and then eat what you like with the REMAINING calories...
I find cheesecake very filling for the calories (maybe all that fat is a satiety key for me
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If I ate 800 calories of cheesecake for breakfast, I'm probably still full by lunch and can have all the zucchini and shrimp that I want for dinner :P 4 -
I made an amazing lasagna using Butternut Squash sheets rather than lasagna noodles. I was expecting it to be horrible (I'm not a veggie lover) but it was amazing. I'd almost say better than normal lasagna. Will be making it again for sure. I bought them from Tesco. As long as they make them I will be experimenting with them for more recipies
I was thinking of trying this with zucchini, but I think I like the idea of butternut squash better (flavor wise).
Also, the zuke tends to cook to mush by the time the sauce & cheese get bubbly.
Good to know, because that would be a real turn off. I wonder if the same thing happens with eggplant.
Not quite as bad, and the eggplant's rich flavor is some compensation, unlike the mild zucchini. Maybe cut eggplant on the thicker side (1/2"+). Or cut the eggplant in half, hollow it some, and stuff/top the eggplant with the sauce/cheese instead.
Edited to add: One think I haven't tried, but should, is semi-dehydrating the eggplant slices in a slow oven before subbing them for the pasta.
Thank you. These are good ideas.0 -
Loool I just like eating large volumes of food and enjoy food hacks XD Don't see why it's supposedly wrong for me to have my own low calorie recipes because I like eating a big meal. Sometimes it's not just about working hard, it's about working smart. Regarding 3 junior chickens to reach my calorie count... as much as it tastes amazing, it's loaded with sugars, sodium, and sauces to make you even hungrier. That's why I mix it with water and don't eat it all the time 3
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Of course pasta is not evil. Some people really desire more food volume....and that's fine but now I wonder about the volume eating...seriously who needs to eat 4 big plates of anything?<- This guy.
Me too. I'm a volume eater for sure, and sadly, I'm not a 20 year old, 6' male with a 3,000 calorie limit. Finding ways to eat more volume with fewer calories helps me stay on track.
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Of course pasta is not evil. Some people really desire more food volume....and that's fine but now I wonder about the volume eating...seriously who needs to eat 4 big plates of anything?<- This guy.
Me too. I'm a volume eater for sure, and sadly, I'm not a 20 year old, 6' male with a 3,000 calorie limit. Finding ways to eat more volume with fewer calories helps me stay on track.
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To each his or her own and I'm diabetic also but some of these substitutions are just gross to me, and I've tried to many to name. And not every diabetic can control their diabetes and eat pasta, I can occasionally. But I agree with sezxystef if you can eat the regular pasta an sugar in your coffee or burger buns for that matter do it in moderation. I can't do the weird fake noodles or fake out veggie noodles, good for those who can. I'll eat my veggies but just not in that way. Lean meats, low fat dairy, veggies, fruit and grains all in moderation.0
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Of course pasta is not evil. Some people really desire more food volume....and that's fine but now I wonder about the volume eating...seriously who needs to eat 4 big plates of anything?<- This guy.
Me too. I'm a volume eater for sure, and sadly, I'm not a 20 year old, 6' male with a 3,000 calorie limit. Finding ways to eat more volume with fewer calories helps me stay on track.
my point is this...what is the drive for volume eating...seriously.
to me it sounds disordered...I mean I eat 2 peaches in one sitting but it's 160 grams...not a whole lot (small peaches) but 4 plates of filling carbs...wow...
again why? and note my quote says "needs" not wants...2 -
my point is this...what is the drive for volume eating...seriously.
to me it sounds disordered...I mean I eat 2 peaches in one sitting but it's 160 grams...not a whole lot (small peaches) but 4 plates of filling carbs...wow...
again why? and note my quote says "needs" not wants...
Not disordered. Different things satisfy different people. If you want to be nitpicky, I suppose we could classify everyone here as being somewhat disordered with food. After all, we're here because we need to lose and/or maintain our weight. And my volume is certainly different than someone else's. Four huge plates of pasta would be too much for me, but I definitely prefer more than a serving or two.
I think you're being a bit judgmental, and I get that. I tend to be judgmental towards low carb and keto ways of eating, but I have learned that everyone is different and responds differently to a particular way of eating.
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my point is this...what is the drive for volume eating...seriously.
to me it sounds disordered...I mean I eat 2 peaches in one sitting but it's 160 grams...not a whole lot (small peaches) but 4 plates of filling carbs...wow...
again why? and note my quote says "needs" not wants...
Not disordered. Different things satisfy different people. If you want to be nitpicky, I suppose we could classify everyone here as being somewhat disordered with food. After all, we're here because we need to lose and/or maintain our weight. And my volume is certainly different than someone else's. Four huge plates of pasta would be too much for me, but I definitely prefer more than a serving or two.
I think you're being a bit judgmental, and I get that. I tend to be judgmental towards low carb and keto ways of eating, but I have learned that everyone is different and responds differently to a particular way of eating.
not trying to be nitpicky at all tho...
not everyone here can be seen as disordered because we are on MFP I am in maintenance and have been for over 3 years...I used this site to lose weight I don't see how that is disordered...
I am not trying to be judgemental tho either I am seriously wondering and expressing a valid opinion on the subject.
To me wanting to eat vast quantities of food in one sitting is foreign and really just trying to understand it...
I have 4 brothers, a husband and a son (all big men) and none of them are volume eaters so you can see why it's foreign to me.
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my point is this...what is the drive for volume eating...seriously.
to me it sounds disordered...I mean I eat 2 peaches in one sitting but it's 160 grams...not a whole lot (small peaches) but 4 plates of filling carbs...wow...
again why? and note my quote says "needs" not wants...
Not disordered. Different things satisfy different people. If you want to be nitpicky, I suppose we could classify everyone here as being somewhat disordered with food. After all, we're here because we need to lose and/or maintain our weight. And my volume is certainly different than someone else's. Four huge plates of pasta would be too much for me, but I definitely prefer more than a serving or two.
I think you're being a bit judgmental, and I get that. I tend to be judgmental towards low carb and keto ways of eating, but I have learned that everyone is different and responds differently to a particular way of eating.
not trying to be nitpicky at all tho...
not everyone here can be seen as disordered because we are on MFP I am in maintenance and have been for over 3 years...I used this site to lose weight I don't see how that is disordered...
I am not trying to be judgemental tho either I am seriously wondering and expressing a valid opinion on the subject.
To me wanting to eat vast quantities of food in one sitting is foreign and really just trying to understand it...
I have 4 brothers, a husband and a son (all big men) and none of them are volume eaters so you can see why it's foreign to me.
Okay, well, maybe I can help explain it. My parents are both obese, as are my brothers. My mom cooks every day, good nutritious food, but she serves huge portions. While I was younger, eating these huge portions worked for me and I was actually underweight because I was so active. Then I got older, had injuries and illness which sidelined me, and learned the hard way that eating thousands of calories a day doesn't really work when you're sedentary.
The thing is, I grew up eating these huge portions and they are what I think of as normal. My husband was shocked the first time he ate at my house - my mom piled spaghetti on his plate and he said he couldn't possibly eat that much, so she served him half. He ate half of what she served him, and later said eating that much made him feel sick. Plus a salad, plus bread, plus side vegetables, plus dessert - I should go through and count up sometime but I suspect a typical spaghetti dinner with my mom is at least 3,000 calories.
My eyes and my stomach think that's normal. An actual official serving size seems like a joke to me. After counting calories and weighing my food for a long time, I have become more conscious of proper portions and what I should be eating, but that isn't getting through to my subconscious. On that level, every day feels like I only get to eat a doll's sized portion of food. I will probably never get to the point where an appropriate sized portion of food feels like enough. So any tricks which allow me to eat a whole bunch without wrecking myself are good tricks.9 -
my point is this...what is the drive for volume eating...seriously.
to me it sounds disordered...I mean I eat 2 peaches in one sitting but it's 160 grams...not a whole lot (small peaches) but 4 plates of filling carbs...wow...
again why? and note my quote says "needs" not wants...
Not disordered. Different things satisfy different people. If you want to be nitpicky, I suppose we could classify everyone here as being somewhat disordered with food. After all, we're here because we need to lose and/or maintain our weight. And my volume is certainly different than someone else's. Four huge plates of pasta would be too much for me, but I definitely prefer more than a serving or two.
I think you're being a bit judgmental, and I get that. I tend to be judgmental towards low carb and keto ways of eating, but I have learned that everyone is different and responds differently to a particular way of eating.
not trying to be nitpicky at all tho...
not everyone here can be seen as disordered because we are on MFP I am in maintenance and have been for over 3 years...I used this site to lose weight I don't see how that is disordered...
I am not trying to be judgemental tho either I am seriously wondering and expressing a valid opinion on the subject.
To me wanting to eat vast quantities of food in one sitting is foreign and really just trying to understand it...
I have 4 brothers, a husband and a son (all big men) and none of them are volume eaters so you can see why it's foreign to me.
I'm fairly small (5'5", 120s) older (61) woman, and a volume eater. Just like some people are satiated by "extra" "unnecessary" amounts of protein or fat, some of us are satiated by volume - often, for me, that's plenty of nutritious, delicious, high fiber veggies.
What could possibly be wrong with that, within my calorie limit?
I don't really know why it's satiating for me. Do people who are satiated by fat, protein, oatmeal or apples know why they find those satiating?
I absolutely admit that I find (good) food tasty, that tastiness is pleasurable, and that I want as much pleasure as practical . . . y'know, as long as no one gets hurt. But I think hedonism is not why volume is satiating for me. It just is.
Do I "need" it in some biological sense? No. But I don't think it's immoral or unethical to choose to spend X calories on eggplant and summer squash rather than on bread and butter.
This isn't necessarily a matter of maximizing volume to the exclusion of all other considerations, either, any more than people satiated by fat are just going to drink only a big slug of olive oil every day for every meal. It's one factor. For me, calorie goal and balanced nutrition are higher priorities.
FWIW, your initial comment did come across as judgemental - "seriously who needs to eat 4 big plates of anything?", "to me it sounds disordered" - and far from "really just trying to understand it". I'm not thin-skinned enough to feel wounded by that, however - LOL.10 -
I like to put riced cauliflower and egg whites in my oats for tons of volume! It also helps to keep carbs lower and protein higher... but mostly volume.
Ingredients:
1/3 cup oats
85 g riced cauliflower
cinnamon
pinch of salt
Cover with water and microwave 3 min. Stir. Microwave again 3 min.
Add:
100g egg whites (2 egg whites)
1 tbs peanut butter
sweetener
Microwave 1 min at a time stirring in-between until it reaches desired consistency. Mix in 140 g (1 cup) frozen blueberries.
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I also like to make a Chipotle type bowl using riced cauliflower in stead of rice and greek yogurt instead of sour cream.
Ingredients:
- 170g riced cauliflower
- 150g chopped bell pepper
- 1 bouillon cube
- 1 tsp cumin
- 4 oz seasoned chicken breast (pre cooked)
- 1 oz fat free cheese (or regular fat cheese)
- 1/2 cup salsa
- 1/4 cup greek yogurt
- avocado?
Directions: In a pan, cook cauliflower and pepper until browned. Mix bullion cub and cumin in hot water and pour over rice and peppers. Cook until water has evaporated. Brown chicken on pan. Throw everything into a bowl.1 -
my point is this...what is the drive for volume eating...seriously.
to me it sounds disordered...I mean I eat 2 peaches in one sitting but it's 160 grams...not a whole lot (small peaches) but 4 plates of filling carbs...wow...
again why? and note my quote says "needs" not wants...
Not disordered. Different things satisfy different people. If you want to be nitpicky, I suppose we could classify everyone here as being somewhat disordered with food. After all, we're here because we need to lose and/or maintain our weight. And my volume is certainly different than someone else's. Four huge plates of pasta would be too much for me, but I definitely prefer more than a serving or two.
I think you're being a bit judgmental, and I get that. I tend to be judgmental towards low carb and keto ways of eating, but I have learned that everyone is different and responds differently to a particular way of eating.
not trying to be nitpicky at all tho...
not everyone here can be seen as disordered because we are on MFP I am in maintenance and have been for over 3 years...I used this site to lose weight I don't see how that is disordered...
I am not trying to be judgemental tho either I am seriously wondering and expressing a valid opinion on the subject.
To me wanting to eat vast quantities of food in one sitting is foreign and really just trying to understand it...
I have 4 brothers, a husband and a son (all big men) and none of them are volume eaters so you can see why it's foreign to me.
I'm fairly small (5'5", 120s) older (61) woman, and a volume eater. Just like some people are satiated by "extra" "unnecessary" amounts of protein or fat, some of us are satiated by volume - often, for me, that's plenty of nutritious, delicious, high fiber veggies.
What could possibly be wrong with that, within my calorie limit?
I don't really know why it's satiating for me. Do people who are satiated by fat, protein, oatmeal or apples know why they find those satiating?
I absolutely admit that I find (good) food tasty, that tastiness is pleasurable, and that I want as much pleasure as practical . . . y'know, as long as no one gets hurt. But I think hedonism is not why volume is satiating for me. It just is.
Do I "need" it in some biological sense? No. But I don't think it's immoral or unethical to choose to spend X calories on eggplant and summer squash rather than on bread and butter.
This isn't necessarily a matter of maximizing volume to the exclusion of all other considerations, either, any more than people satiated by fat are just going to drink only a big slug of olive oil every day for every meal. It's one factor. For me, calorie goal and balanced nutrition are higher priorities.
FWIW, your initial comment did come across as judgemental - "seriously who needs to eat 4 big plates of anything?", "to me it sounds disordered" - and far from "really just trying to understand it". I'm not thin-skinned enough to feel wounded by that, however - LOL.
All of this. Then again, you can pretty much speak for me on just about any topic.
I know for me in particular, this is also an issue as to what macro mix satiates me. I don't find fat satiating. I do find a certain level of carbs (after getting my protein needs met, of course) to be so. That level of carbs necessitates volume.
I don't think the volume is VAST, but it's not bird-like, either. I do tend, on many occasions, to eat more, volume-wise, than my husband. His food, however, is much more calorically dense than mine is.
What I can put down pales in comparison to my teenage son, so there's that. 4 -
Sarah_Shapes_Up wrote: »I also like to make a Chipotle type bowl using riced cauliflower in stead of rice and greek yogurt instead of sour cream.
Ingredients:
- 170g riced cauliflower
- 150g chopped bell pepper
- 1 bouillon cube
- 1 tsp cumin
- 4 oz seasoned chicken breast (pre cooked)
- 1 oz fat free cheese (or regular fat cheese)
- 1/2 cup salsa
- 1/4 cup greek yogurt
- avocado?
Directions: In a pan, cook cauliflower and pepper until browned. Mix bullion cub and cumin in hot water and pour over rice and peppers. Cook until water has evaporated. Brown chicken on pan. Throw everything into a bowl.
Will check these out
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rheddmobile wrote: »my point is this...what is the drive for volume eating...seriously.
to me it sounds disordered...I mean I eat 2 peaches in one sitting but it's 160 grams...not a whole lot (small peaches) but 4 plates of filling carbs...wow...
again why? and note my quote says "needs" not wants...
Not disordered. Different things satisfy different people. If you want to be nitpicky, I suppose we could classify everyone here as being somewhat disordered with food. After all, we're here because we need to lose and/or maintain our weight. And my volume is certainly different than someone else's. Four huge plates of pasta would be too much for me, but I definitely prefer more than a serving or two.
I think you're being a bit judgmental, and I get that. I tend to be judgmental towards low carb and keto ways of eating, but I have learned that everyone is different and responds differently to a particular way of eating.
not trying to be nitpicky at all tho...
not everyone here can be seen as disordered because we are on MFP I am in maintenance and have been for over 3 years...I used this site to lose weight I don't see how that is disordered...
I am not trying to be judgemental tho either I am seriously wondering and expressing a valid opinion on the subject.
To me wanting to eat vast quantities of food in one sitting is foreign and really just trying to understand it...
I have 4 brothers, a husband and a son (all big men) and none of them are volume eaters so you can see why it's foreign to me.
Okay, well, maybe I can help explain it. My parents are both obese, as are my brothers. My mom cooks every day, good nutritious food, but she serves huge portions. While I was younger, eating these huge portions worked for me and I was actually underweight because I was so active. Then I got older, had injuries and illness which sidelined me, and learned the hard way that eating thousands of calories a day doesn't really work when you're sedentary.
The thing is, I grew up eating these huge portions and they are what I think of as normal. My husband was shocked the first time he ate at my house - my mom piled spaghetti on his plate and he said he couldn't possibly eat that much, so she served him half. He ate half of what she served him, and later said eating that much made him feel sick. Plus a salad, plus bread, plus side vegetables, plus dessert - I should go through and count up sometime but I suspect a typical spaghetti dinner with my mom is at least 3,000 calories.
My eyes and my stomach think that's normal. An actual official serving size seems like a joke to me. After counting calories and weighing my food for a long time, I have become more conscious of proper portions and what I should be eating, but that isn't getting through to my subconscious. On that level, every day feels like I only get to eat a doll's sized portion of food. I will probably never get to the point where an appropriate sized portion of food feels like enough. So any tricks which allow me to eat a whole bunch without wrecking myself are good tricks.
Thank you I appreciate the time it took to explain this...and yes this makes sense to a degree...learned behaviour to a degree..but so ingrained it's hard to get away from it...understood.my point is this...what is the drive for volume eating...seriously.
to me it sounds disordered...I mean I eat 2 peaches in one sitting but it's 160 grams...not a whole lot (small peaches) but 4 plates of filling carbs...wow...
again why? and note my quote says "needs" not wants...
Not disordered. Different things satisfy different people. If you want to be nitpicky, I suppose we could classify everyone here as being somewhat disordered with food. After all, we're here because we need to lose and/or maintain our weight. And my volume is certainly different than someone else's. Four huge plates of pasta would be too much for me, but I definitely prefer more than a serving or two.
I think you're being a bit judgmental, and I get that. I tend to be judgmental towards low carb and keto ways of eating, but I have learned that everyone is different and responds differently to a particular way of eating.
not trying to be nitpicky at all tho...
not everyone here can be seen as disordered because we are on MFP I am in maintenance and have been for over 3 years...I used this site to lose weight I don't see how that is disordered...
I am not trying to be judgemental tho either I am seriously wondering and expressing a valid opinion on the subject.
To me wanting to eat vast quantities of food in one sitting is foreign and really just trying to understand it...
I have 4 brothers, a husband and a son (all big men) and none of them are volume eaters so you can see why it's foreign to me.
I'm fairly small (5'5", 120s) older (61) woman, and a volume eater. Just like some people are satiated by "extra" "unnecessary" amounts of protein or fat, some of us are satiated by volume - often, for me, that's plenty of nutritious, delicious, high fiber veggies.
What could possibly be wrong with that, within my calorie limit?
I don't really know why it's satiating for me. Do people who are satiated by fat, protein, oatmeal or apples know why they find those satiating?
I absolutely admit that I find (good) food tasty, that tastiness is pleasurable, and that I want as much pleasure as practical . . . y'know, as long as no one gets hurt. But I think hedonism is not why volume is satiating for me. It just is.
Do I "need" it in some biological sense? No. But I don't think it's immoral or unethical to choose to spend X calories on eggplant and summer squash rather than on bread and butter.
This isn't necessarily a matter of maximizing volume to the exclusion of all other considerations, either, any more than people satiated by fat are just going to drink only a big slug of olive oil every day for every meal. It's one factor. For me, calorie goal and balanced nutrition are higher priorities.
FWIW, your initial comment did come across as judgemental - "seriously who needs to eat 4 big plates of anything?", "to me it sounds disordered" - and far from "really just trying to understand it". I'm not thin-skinned enough to feel wounded by that, however - LOL.
For me to see people eating food in that amount feels disordered...sorry it's just how I see it.
I am not trying to be judgemental here just giving my view on eating so much food...and as you said it's not a biological need...it's a feeling of satisfaction which I understand but at the same time it in itself is an odd concept for me...
*and to be honest it could be because of my upbringing where gluttony was viewed as one of the seven deadly kittens...not to bring religion into it because I am not religious but certain things are ingrained in me too from a very young age*
I do not think it's immoral or unethical either...
as for how my comments sounded...not sure you can imply tone on the written word because it's based on your own bias.
and I stand by my original comment who NEEDS that much food...no one..it's a want...
but to a degree I understand it better...not that it changes my mind on it seeming disordered...6 -
myfitnessjourneyto180 wrote: »Loool I just like eating large volumes of food and enjoy food hacks XD Don't see why it's supposedly wrong for me to have my own low calorie recipes because I like eating a big meal. Sometimes it's not just about working hard, it's about working smart. Regarding 3 junior chickens to reach my calorie count... as much as it tastes amazing, it's loaded with sugars, sodium, and sauces to make you even hungrier. That's why I mix it with water and don't eat it all the time
maybe those things make YOU hungrier, but that is not true for everyone...and are we really doing to start with "the food companies are making things to make us hungrier to buy more of their stuff, argument?"3 -
myfitnessjourneyto180 wrote: »
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
I agree, but sometimes if I'm craving mcdonalds, 3 junior chickens, fries, and water is just enough to hit my calorie count for the day (close to 1500). Personally, i have the self-control to do this. However, 6-calorie jello, diet soda (aspartame-free), 4 plates of zucchini noodles, with 50 small shrimps and spices, shredded low-calorie mozzarella, a medium plate of skinny pop popcorn, a 20-calorie popsicle, and a fiber one bar is much more filling and tastes pretty damn good. It's also less than a 1000 calories btw. Just saying XD
Well you could just have one junior chicken (what is it anyway?) instead of 3.
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
No, not really. When you really want cheesecake, unless you're a weirdo who's actually satisfied with a couple bites, good luck fitting 800+ non filling calories in your day if you're on a 1400 calories meal plan (even only 400 calories of cheesecake really isn't a big serving, lol).
That's what bothers me about the 'eat what you want within your calories'. It's just impossible to do for some people, because they only like high calorie foods that are not necessarily filling. Sometimes, a diet change IS necessary.
if you can't eat a small piece of cheesecake and be satisfied with it then yes, that is a control issue...sorry, but that is the truth...
nice straw man argument about fitting in 800 non filling calories into a 1400 calorie day. When people say eat what you like, it means meet your other goals first and then eat what you like with the REMAINING calories...
I find cheesecake very filling for the calories (maybe all that fat is a satiety key for me?)
If I ate 800 calories of cheesecake for breakfast, I'm probably still full by lunch and can have all the zucchini and shrimp that I want for dinner :P
Yup. Cheesecake is the golden trifecta of protein, carbs and fat. I need all three to be satisfied but an 800 calorie slab of cheesecake would keep me going for a while, especially if eaten with a side of coffee.
I am not a fan of the zucchini pasta though. It's nothing like pasta to me and my tastebuds. I don't even eat pasta all that often but I wouldn't be happy with the zucchini instead. Now zucchini as part of a sauce for pasta sure. That's a way to pad out pasta, with a veg heavy sauce.
And cauliflower in sweet oatmeal? Now I'm really weirded out, ha!
I do love PB2 in my porridge though, a full 13g serving with my 30g of oats really adds volume. I then add 20g of strawberry jam for my patent pending PB&J porridge.5 -
VintageFeline wrote: »myfitnessjourneyto180 wrote: »
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
I agree, but sometimes if I'm craving mcdonalds, 3 junior chickens, fries, and water is just enough to hit my calorie count for the day (close to 1500). Personally, i have the self-control to do this. However, 6-calorie jello, diet soda (aspartame-free), 4 plates of zucchini noodles, with 50 small shrimps and spices, shredded low-calorie mozzarella, a medium plate of skinny pop popcorn, a 20-calorie popsicle, and a fiber one bar is much more filling and tastes pretty damn good. It's also less than a 1000 calories btw. Just saying XD
Well you could just have one junior chicken (what is it anyway?) instead of 3.
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
No, not really. When you really want cheesecake, unless you're a weirdo who's actually satisfied with a couple bites, good luck fitting 800+ non filling calories in your day if you're on a 1400 calories meal plan (even only 400 calories of cheesecake really isn't a big serving, lol).
That's what bothers me about the 'eat what you want within your calories'. It's just impossible to do for some people, because they only like high calorie foods that are not necessarily filling. Sometimes, a diet change IS necessary.
if you can't eat a small piece of cheesecake and be satisfied with it then yes, that is a control issue...sorry, but that is the truth...
nice straw man argument about fitting in 800 non filling calories into a 1400 calorie day. When people say eat what you like, it means meet your other goals first and then eat what you like with the REMAINING calories...
I find cheesecake very filling for the calories (maybe all that fat is a satiety key for me?)
If I ate 800 calories of cheesecake for breakfast, I'm probably still full by lunch and can have all the zucchini and shrimp that I want for dinner :P
Yup. Cheesecake is the golden trifecta of protein, carbs and fat. I need all three to be satisfied but an 800 calorie slab of cheesecake would keep me going for a while, especially if eaten with a side of coffee.
I am not a fan of the zucchini pasta though. It's nothing like pasta to me and my tastebuds. I don't even eat pasta all that often but I wouldn't be happy with the zucchini instead. Now zucchini as part of a sauce for pasta sure. That's a way to pad out pasta, with a veg heavy sauce.
And cauliflower in sweet oatmeal? Now I'm really weirded out, ha!
I do love PB2 in my porridge though, a full 13g serving with my 30g of oats really adds volume. I then add 20g of strawberry jam for my patent pending PB&J porridge.
I do the zucchini strands in with the pasta instead of in the sauce, and saying that, it's just a texture thing. Depending on the shape of pasta I'm eating, it could be in the sauce.
I'm not really into saucy sauces for pasta, mine are more a melange of sauteed veggies anyway... onions, garlic, cherry tomatoes.
The one thing I've never done is have the zucchini all by itself and called it a pasta meal.
I have eaten spaghetti squash all by itself, but not as a "pasta" dish. I normally have that with cottage cheese.0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »myfitnessjourneyto180 wrote: »
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
I agree, but sometimes if I'm craving mcdonalds, 3 junior chickens, fries, and water is just enough to hit my calorie count for the day (close to 1500). Personally, i have the self-control to do this. However, 6-calorie jello, diet soda (aspartame-free), 4 plates of zucchini noodles, with 50 small shrimps and spices, shredded low-calorie mozzarella, a medium plate of skinny pop popcorn, a 20-calorie popsicle, and a fiber one bar is much more filling and tastes pretty damn good. It's also less than a 1000 calories btw. Just saying XD
Well you could just have one junior chicken (what is it anyway?) instead of 3.
That's a control issue not a caloric one...
No, not really. When you really want cheesecake, unless you're a weirdo who's actually satisfied with a couple bites, good luck fitting 800+ non filling calories in your day if you're on a 1400 calories meal plan (even only 400 calories of cheesecake really isn't a big serving, lol).
That's what bothers me about the 'eat what you want within your calories'. It's just impossible to do for some people, because they only like high calorie foods that are not necessarily filling. Sometimes, a diet change IS necessary.
if you can't eat a small piece of cheesecake and be satisfied with it then yes, that is a control issue...sorry, but that is the truth...
nice straw man argument about fitting in 800 non filling calories into a 1400 calorie day. When people say eat what you like, it means meet your other goals first and then eat what you like with the REMAINING calories...
I find cheesecake very filling for the calories (maybe all that fat is a satiety key for me?)
If I ate 800 calories of cheesecake for breakfast, I'm probably still full by lunch and can have all the zucchini and shrimp that I want for dinner :P
Yup. Cheesecake is the golden trifecta of protein, carbs and fat. I need all three to be satisfied but an 800 calorie slab of cheesecake would keep me going for a while, especially if eaten with a side of coffee.
I am not a fan of the zucchini pasta though. It's nothing like pasta to me and my tastebuds. I don't even eat pasta all that often but I wouldn't be happy with the zucchini instead. Now zucchini as part of a sauce for pasta sure. That's a way to pad out pasta, with a veg heavy sauce.
And cauliflower in sweet oatmeal? Now I'm really weirded out, ha!
I do love PB2 in my porridge though, a full 13g serving with my 30g of oats really adds volume. I then add 20g of strawberry jam for my patent pending PB&J porridge.
I make peanutbutter chocolate cheesecake pudding
Cottage cheese, Protein powder, PB2 and fat free chocolate pudding mix. So damn satisfying at 250 calories a serving... i eat it almost every day lol. 3
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