Confused About Weight Loss Plateau
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Christine_72 wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
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Ive resolved the issue
I've been following this thread, and unless i missed it, can you please share how you resolved the issue?
Calories are likely too low which may be causing water retention. Also low Fiber may be causing the same thing
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cmriverside wrote: »I think you might have better luck on the low carb forum...
Here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
It's a group, so you'll have to join first...
The main forums aren't particularly keto oriented, and sometimes no one who is keto educated will be on the main forums at all. I think you've gotten good advice so far, but there may be some more detained stuff on that Group's forums.
Thank you!!!
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musicfan68 wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Oh, so you DO eat vegetables then, unlike what you said before.
I would guess your non-weight loss is due to constipation you mentioned upthread - if you are basically only eating meat and cheese, I can see why you would be constipated.
My other guess is that you have lost enough weight that you need to adjust your calories down. It might just be helpful for you to weigh your foods for one day just to check yourself because just because something says it's 6 oz, doesn't mean it is.
But, you seem to know everything already and know more than the rest of us, so keep doing what you are doing if you think that's working for you.
Yeah I only said I know I'm running a calorie deficit and I know I'm in a plateau. Why that sparked such rigorous debate I don't know.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
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CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
We were trying to help you. Again, lots of people vow and declare they know how many calories they're eating. They're not lying, they truly do believe that. In this instance, you do know, and you could have very easily said how you know. And it likely would have become apparent at that time, or soon there after, that you're stressing your body by undereating and probably have raised cortisol levels as a result.
You can either take this as a lesson in providing full and accurate information to the people who are giving their free time to help you, or you can continue to be angry about it (which isn't going to help those cortisol levels, fyi).6 -
CheersforWhit wrote: »musicfan68 wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Oh, so you DO eat vegetables then, unlike what you said before.
I would guess your non-weight loss is due to constipation you mentioned upthread - if you are basically only eating meat and cheese, I can see why you would be constipated.
My other guess is that you have lost enough weight that you need to adjust your calories down. It might just be helpful for you to weigh your foods for one day just to check yourself because just because something says it's 6 oz, doesn't mean it is.
But, you seem to know everything already and know more than the rest of us, so keep doing what you are doing if you think that's working for you.
Yeah I only said I know I'm running a calorie deficit and I know I'm in a plateau. Why that sparked such rigorous debate I don't know.
I can tell you why it sparked a debate - because in 99 out of a 100 cases, the answer to "why am I in a plateau" is "because you aren't weighing your food and you are eating more calories than you think you are, so you are not in a deficit."
Please don't take this personally - no one here knows you, they only know that your question is an FAQ and your story has all the hallmarks of a common situation which regular forum goes have seen ten thousand times already. Without measuring your food in some way, it's unclear how you could possibly know you are in a deficit, or even that you are eating the same thing every day - studies have found that obese people habitually underestimate the food they eat, and when they get hungry, they eat even more and estimate even more poorly. The brain is tricky.
You are also not in a plateau, which is defined on the FAQ as a failure to lose weight for three weeks or more.
My feeling is that since you aren't really in a plateau but have only been stuck for two weeks, you will soon be happily surprised by losing weight. I wish you the best and hope that you will consider that it's impossible to learn anything if you are sure you already know everything.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
We were trying to help you. Again, lots of people vow and declare they know how many calories they're eating. They're not lying, they truly do believe that. In this instance, you do know, and you could have very easily said how you know. And it likely would have become apparent at that time, or soon there after, that you're stressing your body by undereating and probably have raised cortisol levels as a result.
You can either take this as a lesson in providing full and accurate information to the people who are giving their free time to help you, or you can continue to be angry about it (which isn't going to help those cortisol levels, fyi).
Nony I understand that but you can't go into a situation assuming the worst of people because you've had bad experiences with others. That's when unnecessary conflict arises.
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CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
Or you could have read any of the what? 3? 4? threads on plateaus in the stickied "must reads" lists. Or lurked the ten other threads on plateaus today. Instead you opted to get defensive and insult people trying to help you.10 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
We were trying to help you. Again, lots of people vow and declare they know how many calories they're eating. They're not lying, they truly do believe that. In this instance, you do know, and you could have very easily said how you know. And it likely would have become apparent at that time, or soon there after, that you're stressing your body by undereating and probably have raised cortisol levels as a result.
You can either take this as a lesson in providing full and accurate information to the people who are giving their free time to help you, or you can continue to be angry about it (which isn't going to help those cortisol levels, fyi).
I think maybe you should take this as a lesson in not making negative assumptions. If someone says to you they're saying at a deficit just believe them until you have reason to think otherwise. And I'm not angry.
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rheddmobile wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »musicfan68 wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Oh, so you DO eat vegetables then, unlike what you said before.
I would guess your non-weight loss is due to constipation you mentioned upthread - if you are basically only eating meat and cheese, I can see why you would be constipated.
My other guess is that you have lost enough weight that you need to adjust your calories down. It might just be helpful for you to weigh your foods for one day just to check yourself because just because something says it's 6 oz, doesn't mean it is.
But, you seem to know everything already and know more than the rest of us, so keep doing what you are doing if you think that's working for you.
Yeah I only said I know I'm running a calorie deficit and I know I'm in a plateau. Why that sparked such rigorous debate I don't know.
I can tell you why it sparked a debate - because in 99 out of a 100 cases, the answer to "why am I in a plateau" is "because you aren't weighing your food and you are eating more calories than you think you are, so you are not in a deficit."
Please don't take this personally - no one here knows you, they only know that your question is an FAQ and your story has all the hallmarks of a common situation which regular forum goes have seen ten thousand times already. Without measuring your food in some way, it's unclear how you could possibly know you are in a deficit, or even that you are eating the same thing every day - studies have found that obese people habitually underestimate the food they eat, and when they get hungry, they eat even more and estimate even more poorly. The brain is tricky.
You are also not in a plateau, which is defined on the FAQ as a failure to lose weight for three weeks or more.
My feeling is that since you aren't really in a plateau but have only been stuck for two weeks, you will soon be happily surprised by losing weight. I wish you the best and hope that you will consider that it's impossible to learn anything if you are sure you already know everything.
Thanks I appreciate your help
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Wow. :huh:8
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CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
We were trying to help you. Again, lots of people vow and declare they know how many calories they're eating. They're not lying, they truly do believe that. In this instance, you do know, and you could have very easily said how you know. And it likely would have become apparent at that time, or soon there after, that you're stressing your body by undereating and probably have raised cortisol levels as a result.
You can either take this as a lesson in providing full and accurate information to the people who are giving their free time to help you, or you can continue to be angry about it (which isn't going to help those cortisol levels, fyi).
I think maybe you should take this as a lesson in not making negative assumptions. If someone says to you they're saying at a deficit just believe them until you have reason to think otherwise. And I'm not angry.
Why don't you hang around for a few weeks and help us all answer some more plateau threads?
I'd love to know if you still trust everything random people on the internet say after fifty of these.
I notice you chose not to "just believe" anyone who told you this isn't a plateau. Not a two-way street?11 -
diannethegeek wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
Or you could have read any of the what? 3? 4? threads on plateaus in the stickied "must reads" lists. Or lurked the ten other threads on plateaus today. Instead you opted to get defensive and insult people trying to help you.diannethegeek wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
Or you could have read any of the what? 3? 4? threads on plateaus in the stickied "must reads" lists. Or lurked the ten other threads on plateaus today. Instead you opted to get defensive and insult people trying to help you.
I didn't see a thread that involves Ketosis. Thanks for chiming in though.
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I've read for keto plateaus intermittent fasting helps. 20/4 is recommended. That is 20 hours fasting 4 hours eating
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CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
We were trying to help you. Again, lots of people vow and declare they know how many calories they're eating. They're not lying, they truly do believe that. In this instance, you do know, and you could have very easily said how you know. And it likely would have become apparent at that time, or soon there after, that you're stressing your body by undereating and probably have raised cortisol levels as a result.
You can either take this as a lesson in providing full and accurate information to the people who are giving their free time to help you, or you can continue to be angry about it (which isn't going to help those cortisol levels, fyi).
Nony I understand that but you can't go into a situation assuming the worst of people because you've had bad experiences with others. That's when unnecessary conflict arises.
We didn't assume the worst. We assumed something that is really, really common, that you could have knocked on the head from the outset by saying 'I know my calories because I work to a meal plan and everything is portioned out in the freezer already'. If we assumed that everyone who posts that they're not losing weight (which is several people a day) was actually being accurate with their calories just because they say they are, while they refuse to say how they know that, those people would be left spinning their wheels. The onus is on the person asking for help to provide the proper information.
Anyway, I'm glad that we have hopefully identified your problem. I also hope you take the advice of a maintenance break for a couple of weeks to let that cortisol level settle.7 -
diannethegeek wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
We were trying to help you. Again, lots of people vow and declare they know how many calories they're eating. They're not lying, they truly do believe that. In this instance, you do know, and you could have very easily said how you know. And it likely would have become apparent at that time, or soon there after, that you're stressing your body by undereating and probably have raised cortisol levels as a result.
You can either take this as a lesson in providing full and accurate information to the people who are giving their free time to help you, or you can continue to be angry about it (which isn't going to help those cortisol levels, fyi).
I think maybe you should take this as a lesson in not making negative assumptions. If someone says to you they're saying at a deficit just believe them until you have reason to think otherwise. And I'm not angry.
Why don't you hang around for a few weeks and help us all answer some more plateau threads?
I'd love to know if you still trust everything random people on the internet say after fifty of these.
I notice you chose not to "just believe" anyone who told you this isn't a plateau. Not a two-way street?
Diana weight loss plateaus are loosly defined. My calorie intake is not. That's a false equivalency. Asking you to not assume I'm lying or in denial isn't asking much. If you can't do that while even bother answering? Anyway what are you expecting to get out of continuing this conversation?
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davidacorreia wrote: »I've read for keto plateaus intermittent fasting helps. 20/4 is recommended. That is 20 hours fasting 4 hours eating
Thank you!!!
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
We were trying to help you. Again, lots of people vow and declare they know how many calories they're eating. They're not lying, they truly do believe that. In this instance, you do know, and you could have very easily said how you know. And it likely would have become apparent at that time, or soon there after, that you're stressing your body by undereating and probably have raised cortisol levels as a result.
You can either take this as a lesson in providing full and accurate information to the people who are giving their free time to help you, or you can continue to be angry about it (which isn't going to help those cortisol levels, fyi).
Nony I understand that but you can't go into a situation assuming the worst of people because you've had bad experiences with others. That's when unnecessary conflict arises.
We didn't assume the worst. We assumed something that is really, really common, that you could have knocked on the head from the outset by saying 'I know my calories because I work to a meal plan and everything is portioned out in the freezer already'. If we assumed that everyone who posts that they're not losing weight (which is several people a day) was actually being accurate with their calories just because they say they are, while they refuse to say how they know that, those people would be left spinning their wheels. The onus is on the person asking for help to provide the proper information.
Anyway, I'm glad that we have hopefully identified your problem. I also hope you take the advice of a maintenance break for a couple of weeks to let that cortisol level settle.
Alright Nony. We will have to agree to disagree on that. Have a good evening.
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This thread is so bizarre because this community as a whole is super helpful and polite. Like ridiculously so. I posted a thread last week and ONLY got helpful and positive answers. Literally not one negative comment. On the Internet this is virtually unheard of.14
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CheersforWhit wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
Or you could have read any of the what? 3? 4? threads on plateaus in the stickied "must reads" lists. Or lurked the ten other threads on plateaus today. Instead you opted to get defensive and insult people trying to help you.diannethegeek wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »CheersforWhit wrote: »
How do you know they are 6 oz if you don't measure? How do you know you've drank the same amount of liquids everyday without measuring? How do you know the intensity of your exercise is exact every time? You can't just by gauging it.CheersforWhit wrote: »
It's a stall though and not a plateau. A plateau would be 6 weeks or more of no weight movement if one was CONSISTENT (especially in calorie counts) with diet and exercise. If consistency was lost at anytime, then it wouldn't be a plateau. It is a stall, but usually by identifying certain things (calories taken in, rest, exercise) and making adjustments, it should resolve itself.CheersforWhit wrote: »I have been losing over a pound a week for 12 weeks so I consider it a plateau . If I'm running a calorie deficit and exercising I should be losing. I believe the issue is not enough fiber in my diet so I'm going to try that. Thanks anyway
I liken a stall and plateau to a stop sign and a red light stop . One is a quick stop, the other could keep you there awhile.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Im extremely consistent . I have a menu I eat every week. Breakfast Lunch and Dinner. As in I eat 2 pieces of 6oz baked fish every Monday with half a cup of broccoli. I am also very consistent with exercise.
Trust that you're NOT the first person or client I've had this discussion with. What's been mentioned above about identifying how much your eating IS NOT a big deal, unless you make it one. Measure everything for a week. Just a week. If your weight changes, then you've likely identified what might have been the issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
They're all precut and then frozen. I buy them from the market that way. They measure it there. The only liquid I drink is water. I run on a treadmill so that information is tracked. 4mph for 30 minutes. Weights are simple to track as well. Anyway as I've said before Ive resolved the issue
Again, information you could have given pages ago...
Or you could have just trusted me mate.
Or you could have read any of the what? 3? 4? threads on plateaus in the stickied "must reads" lists. Or lurked the ten other threads on plateaus today. Instead you opted to get defensive and insult people trying to help you.
I didn't see a thread that involves Ketosis. Thanks for chiming in though.
LOL there are literally hundreds of threads about ketogenic diets posted here every week. It's the latest diet fad, and because devout followers have convinced others that you don't have to count calories while following keto because so satiating, there are also dozens of threads with people who don't understand why they are not losing following this approach.
Threads like yours are a dime a dozen and your dismissive, snarky tone with people who are genuinely trying to help you avoid one of the most common mistakes that posters make is nothing new either. If you had it all figured out and knew exactly what was going on, you wouldn't be in your unnecessarily low calorie, constipated, no variety in your meal plan, two week stall, asking for help.
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