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Nutritionislife wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to creat any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
what is the problem with red meat?? you keep focusing on that as if it is some horrible thing??
Im using red meat as an example of high saturated fats...but of course when eaten within you caloric limits and in moderation you can eat anything. But from this post she is struggling with weight and eating the wrong foods.
Getting in a calorie deficit will address her weight issues. She may find, over time, that it's easier to maintain a deficit when she limits or avoids certain foods, but this isn't a requirement to lose weight.
You can lose weight while eating foods high in saturated fats. This is just a distraction from what OP needs to be focusing on, a calorie deficit.
Who said it was a requirement? Not me. Im just giving advice that worked for me. Settle down
I don't need to settle down because this isn't an emotional thing for me. I'm responding to your blanket declaration above: "eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now." That's why I'm saying it isn't a requirement because you have decided *for OP* that she can't eat red meat or Snickers while losing weight.
The truth is that we don't know whether or not OP will be more successful with restriction or moderation so none of us should declare what "won't work" for her.
You yourself wrote above "Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone." You should carefully consider that. That's what I (and some others) are trying to communicate to you.13 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to create any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
No. Eliminating foods may be the best way for *you* to sustain, but it isn't the best way for everyone.
You say yourself that not everything works for everyone, so stop assuming that she has to lose weight the same way that you do. Her sustainable plan may look different than yours.
It's contradictory for you to say there is only one way to sustain but that not everything works for everyone. You have no way of knowing that OP won't be successful eating foods like red meat and candy in the context of a calorie deficit. Maybe she's like you and she has to eliminate foods. Or maybe she is like a lot of people here and can lose weight by focusing on a calorie deficit without eliminating certain foods.
I never said she has to do anything or eliminate anything completely and forever. So stop being a drama queen. Im telling her how I lost 28 pounds in 4 months without the gym. But read her post again because she says shes eating the wrong things. People will tell you exactly what they are doing wrong. Its in her nutrition. Since high saturated foods and sugars are contradictory to her goals; this is why they need to be if not eliminated, extremely limited at first. The reason for this is to train her brain to eat less of whatever. Which goes hand in hand with following serving sizes and nutrient content.
She wrote "wrong" things, you're guessing as to what those things are or even if they are truly "wrong." She may just be under some misconceptions about nutrition (I've seen people say that potatoes or bread are "wrong" before). We don't know that she's eating foods high in saturated fat or sugar. These are projections based on *your history.*
What we can know for sure, since she's gaining weight, is that she's consuming more calories than her body is currently using. So rather than focusing on other things, she should focus on that.
This isn't a nutrition problem (although OP may find that making changes will make it easier for her to maintain a calorie deficit). It's a calorie problem.
I'm sorry you feel like this is drama, I just don't think it's helpful to make people who are new feel like they have to implement a bunch of (completely optional) restrictions in order to be successful. OP can begin by focusing on one thing and then figure out what other changes she *might* need to make in order to make a deficit more sustainable for her.
@janejellyroll Girl you are hitting brick wall with this one. OP I would take the advice of someone that has a history of 13,432 posts before I would take the advice of one with 16, and I will personally back Janejellyroll as a fount of good simple RELIABLE information to keep you from going around in circles.17 -
The biggest change for me was to stop trying to "diet" and to start eating the things I enjoy but in moderation. I don't deprive myself of any of the things I love to eat, I just make room for them in my daily calories. If I really want that cookie but I'm low on calories left for the day, I might have to do a 10 minute workout to get it, but then I get to eat it. If I crave pizza, I'll have a slice if it fits into my calories for the day. Obviously, 4 or 5 slices won't fit, so I'll have the one slice along with a side salad and other low calorie things. The trick to sticking to it is to not treat it like a "diet".
Also, if you have time in your schedule and access to a therapist, I highly suggest talking to a professional. Gaining 50 lbs in a year at 19 is a sign of bigger issues, and it may be impossible to deal with the food issues until you talk about the emotional ones. (I hope that doesn't sound too presumptuous) You can do it! We're all here for you.12 -
Nutritionislife wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to create any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
No. Eliminating foods may be the best way for *you* to sustain, but it isn't the best way for everyone.
You say yourself that not everything works for everyone, so stop assuming that she has to lose weight the same way that you do. Her sustainable plan may look different than yours.
It's contradictory for you to say there is only one way to sustain but that not everything works for everyone. You have no way of knowing that OP won't be successful eating foods like red meat and candy in the context of a calorie deficit. Maybe she's like you and she has to eliminate foods. Or maybe she is like a lot of people here and can lose weight by focusing on a calorie deficit without eliminating certain foods.
I never said she has to do anything or eliminate anything completely and forever. So stop being a drama queen. Im telling her how I lost 28 pounds in 4 months without the gym. But read her post again because she says shes eating the wrong things. People will tell you exactly what they are doing wrong. Its in her nutrition. Since high saturated foods and sugars are contradictory to her goals; this is why they need to be if not eliminated, extremely limited at first. The reason for this is to train her brain to eat less of whatever. Which goes hand in hand with following serving sizes and nutrient content.
Janejellyroll is correct. I think the problem is in your delivery, @Nutritionislife .
All that is needed for weight loss is a calorie deficit. Keep it simple.
I lost 70 pounds ten years ago and I've kept it off. I eat two meals and a snack every day - in an eight hour window - but that isn't important. I have beef at least a couple times a week. Last week I had Snickers twice, and fried fish and chips. I also had sugary yogurt every day. I hit my protein and fat macro targets every day.
Other than a calorie deficit, of course nutrition is important, but it is less about what you abstain from and more about adding more vegetables, fruits and whole foods - in any combo she wants.
For the original poster: log your food. Study your FOOD page and make changes where you can.
Exercise isn't important for weight loss, but it is important for mental health and for physical wellness. The bonus is it blunts hunger for a lot of people and it allows a bit more food.
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Nutritionislife wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to creat any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
what is the problem with red meat?? you keep focusing on that as if it is some horrible thing??
Im using red meat as an example of high saturated fats...but of course when eaten within you caloric limits and in moderation you can eat anything. But from this post she is struggling with weight and eating the wrong foods.
Getting in a calorie deficit will address her weight issues. She may find, over time, that it's easier to maintain a deficit when she limits or avoids certain foods, but this isn't a requirement to lose weight.
You can lose weight while eating foods high in saturated fats. This is just a distraction from what OP needs to be focusing on, a calorie deficit.
Lol. The distraction is being uneducated in nutrition. Nutrition and being at a healthy weight does not = counting calories. Count your calories if you want all day while eating all the saturated fat you can....then have a heart attack for eating too much saturated fats if you want too. Thats not my kind of plan.
This is a total strawman. Writing that someone can eat some red meat and still lose weight doesn't mean that one is encouraging someone to eat "all the saturated fat" or eat "too much of it."
Please consider that the reason you're disagreeing with me is because you are responding to a misunderstanding of what I'm writing instead of what I'm actually writing.13 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »But there are no 'wrong' foods. There are staples, there are 'sometime' foods, and there are 'are you absolutely positive you want to spend this many calories on it?' foods. And the category a food might fall into varies from person to person and situation to situation.
Someone running a marathon might chow down on a bag of gummi bears before the run. I'd likely take the bag and pre-portion it into 100-calorie servings and take one every other day or so. If we're talking jellybeans, though, I wouldn't buy more than a funsize pack at a time, because if I buy a whole bag, I will eat a whole bag. That same afternoon. Gummi bears don't have that effect on me.
Some people can snack on 100 calories of nuts and find them satiating. I find them in front of me and keep going back for more. But if I use a couple of tablespoons of chopped nuts to garnish a salad, I'm fine.
I know that I wouldn't have been able to stick with my weight loss, had I not admitted to myself, "I'm going into a situation where there will be food and I will want it. So, realistically, how much do I feel I 'need' in order to enjoy myself when everyone around me is partaking? Let's estimate calories now." And instead of going in there all uptight and thinking that I wasn't even going to look at the baked goods, I was going to stick to the fruit and veggie platters... I took a couple of pieces of potato kugel and a cookie that I'd pre-logged, and enjoyed it. And it came without all the guilt and negative self-talk that would have locked me in a cycle of 'eat-regret-feel guilty-eat to numb the guilt-finish-feel guiltier-eat more-etc'. Recognizing that I could cut back on foods I liked without cutting them out was incredibly freeing. If I'd sworn off of eating 'wrong foods', I know I would have given up long ago.
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YepItsKriss wrote: »@Nutritionislife - you lost 28 pounds by creating a deficit, whatever foods you picked to do that are irrelevant.
You eat 1500 calories with a 500 deficit = 1lbs loss
I eat 1500 calories with a 500 calorie deficit = 1lbs loss
Don't confuse nutrition with the math.
OP can eat what will keep her on track, the math stays the same.
I sure did. But what has been the quality of my food choice? Not snickers. Theres a difference, go read a nutrition book.18 -
All of this fighting is probably not helpful to the OP and is probably turning her off from reading all of the helpful comments that people are making. It's not productive.12
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Nutritionislife wrote: »YepItsKriss wrote: »@Nutritionislife - you lost 28 pounds by creating a deficit, whatever foods you picked to do that are irrelevant.
You eat 1500 calories with a 500 deficit = 1lbs loss
I eat 1500 calories with a 500 calorie deficit = 1lbs loss
Don't confuse nutrition with the math.
OP can eat what will keep her on track, the math stays the same.
I sure did. But what has been the quality of my food choice? Not snickers. Theres a difference, go read a nutrition book.
Nobody is arguing that all foods have the same nutrients.
But provided she is able to maintain a calorie defict, OP would be able to lose weight while sometimes having a Snickers bar.3 -
All of this fighting is probably not helpful to the OP and is probably turning her off from reading all of the helpful comments that people are making. It's not productive.
I get what you're saying, but when we don't challenge inaccurate information or assumptions, I think it's also not helpful to OPs in general.13 -
Honey, you need some rest!
When you clear the mind fog, you will be in a state to take better care of yourself.
I think all the exercise you need to incorporate is to run between classes. You can make it a game by timing yourself. As you get faster you get fitter, and you manage to squeeze a little more personal time in to your day.
I think food prep would work for you. On one day off, make a bulk amount of roast chicken thighs (cheaper than chicken breasts) and chili (or any other bulk stew type meal). Pre-package for your week. Get a bag of carrots and peel/cut them up as snacks. Hard boil some eggs. Have a pack of pita pockets or tortillas. You will gain more time by having these grab-and-go personal meals to take with you through the day.
When I worked out on an industrial site with ten hours carved out of my day, I had to pack my breakfast and all my snacks. That way I made sure I didn't come home ravenous and eat out the house.
By having all your meals pre-packaged and available you when you are hungry will avoid fast food and binging.5 -
Nutritionislife wrote: »YepItsKriss wrote: »@Nutritionislife - you lost 28 pounds by creating a deficit, whatever foods you picked to do that are irrelevant.
You eat 1500 calories with a 500 deficit = 1lbs loss
I eat 1500 calories with a 500 calorie deficit = 1lbs loss
Don't confuse nutrition with the math.
OP can eat what will keep her on track, the math stays the same.
I sure did. But what has been the quality of my food choice? Not snickers. Theres a difference, go read a nutrition book.
Snickers is nutritious.12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »All of this fighting is probably not helpful to the OP and is probably turning her off from reading all of the helpful comments that people are making. It's not productive.
I get what you're saying, but when we don't challenge inaccurate information or assumptions, I think it's also not helpful to OPs in general.
It's more of the "drama queen", "read a book", and speaking in condescending tones that I'm referring to. Challenging inaccurate information is great as long as people are doing it in a constructive way.6 -
gebeziseva wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »YepItsKriss wrote: »@Nutritionislife - you lost 28 pounds by creating a deficit, whatever foods you picked to do that are irrelevant.
You eat 1500 calories with a 500 deficit = 1lbs loss
I eat 1500 calories with a 500 calorie deficit = 1lbs loss
Don't confuse nutrition with the math.
OP can eat what will keep her on track, the math stays the same.
I sure did. But what has been the quality of my food choice? Not snickers. Theres a difference, go read a nutrition book.
Snickers is nutritious.
+1
It's probably the perfect candy.5 -
gebeziseva wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »YepItsKriss wrote: »@Nutritionislife - you lost 28 pounds by creating a deficit, whatever foods you picked to do that are irrelevant.
You eat 1500 calories with a 500 deficit = 1lbs loss
I eat 1500 calories with a 500 calorie deficit = 1lbs loss
Don't confuse nutrition with the math.
OP can eat what will keep her on track, the math stays the same.
I sure did. But what has been the quality of my food choice? Not snickers. Theres a difference, go read a nutrition book.
Snickers is nutritious.
Lol.6 -
Add me to the "Snickers are amazing" group. Second only to Reese's peanut butter cups.12
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Nutritionislife wrote: »gebeziseva wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »YepItsKriss wrote: »@Nutritionislife - you lost 28 pounds by creating a deficit, whatever foods you picked to do that are irrelevant.
You eat 1500 calories with a 500 deficit = 1lbs loss
I eat 1500 calories with a 500 calorie deficit = 1lbs loss
Don't confuse nutrition with the math.
OP can eat what will keep her on track, the math stays the same.
I sure did. But what has been the quality of my food choice? Not snickers. Theres a difference, go read a nutrition book.
Snickers is nutritious.
Lol.
It has peanuts, eggs, milk, and chocolate. None of those foods lose their nutritional value from being combined together in bar form.14
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