Diet Sodas?
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MinuitMinuet wrote: »
But anything "natural" is chemically bonded at the molecular level. When people talk of chemicals, they speak of artificial, but artificial isn't really "bad" in anyway unless there's a health issue with it.MinuitMinuet wrote: »Yes, they are bad for you.
No, they are not bad for you.
Depends on how you are looking at them. Chemicals and fake sugars are never as good as all natural.. Zero calories won't make you gain weight though. And the chances of cancer? Negligible.
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I disagree. You can believe how you like and I will continue to believe that God doesn't make mistakes, but man fouls everything up daily. Artificial in my book will always be "not good for you." You may have to drink 100 cans a day for a month to develop major health risks because the amount of aspartame per serving is negligible, and frankly I don't find that enough of a threat to stop partaking once in awhile myself, but that doesn't take away from the truth that artificial is never as good as natural.
You're telling people this, using a human-constructed language, on a human-created machine.16 -
janejellyroll wrote: »MinuitMinuet wrote: »
But anything "natural" is chemically bonded at the molecular level. When people talk of chemicals, they speak of artificial, but artificial isn't really "bad" in anyway unless there's a health issue with it.MinuitMinuet wrote: »Yes, they are bad for you.
No, they are not bad for you.
Depends on how you are looking at them. Chemicals and fake sugars are never as good as all natural.. Zero calories won't make you gain weight though. And the chances of cancer? Negligible.
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I disagree. You can believe how you like and I will continue to believe that God doesn't make mistakes, but man fouls everything up daily. Artificial in my book will always be "not good for you." You may have to drink 100 cans a day for a month to develop major health risks because the amount of aspartame per serving is negligible, and frankly I don't find that enough of a threat to stop partaking once in awhile myself, but that doesn't take away from the truth that artificial is never as good as natural.
You're telling people this, using a human-constructed language, on a human-created machine.
My favorite part is her avatar with full makeup and driving in a car.11 -
janejellyroll wrote: »MinuitMinuet wrote: »
But anything "natural" is chemically bonded at the molecular level. When people talk of chemicals, they speak of artificial, but artificial isn't really "bad" in anyway unless there's a health issue with it.MinuitMinuet wrote: »Yes, they are bad for you.
No, they are not bad for you.
Depends on how you are looking at them. Chemicals and fake sugars are never as good as all natural.. Zero calories won't make you gain weight though. And the chances of cancer? Negligible.
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I disagree. You can believe how you like and I will continue to believe that God doesn't make mistakes, but man fouls everything up daily. Artificial in my book will always be "not good for you." You may have to drink 100 cans a day for a month to develop major health risks because the amount of aspartame per serving is negligible, and frankly I don't find that enough of a threat to stop partaking once in awhile myself, but that doesn't take away from the truth that artificial is never as good as natural.
You're telling people this, using a human-constructed language, on a human-created machine.
My favorite part is her avatar with full makeup and driving in a car.
I can never understand how people like this decide which artificial things are bad and which are perfectly okay.10 -
It's not "bad" neither is it good. Drinking it daily however isn't something I'd do personally. Looking at the ingredients of most of those drinks there's no need for the body to be constantly full of that.5
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NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »It's not "bad" neither is it good. Drinking it daily however isn't something I'd do personally. Looking at the ingredients of most of those drinks there's no need for the body to be constantly full of that.
Given that we're omnivores and capable of meeting our nutritional needs in all kinds of ways, there isn't really a "need" for us to consume any individual item in our diet. Yet we still do consume these things . . .5 -
MinuitMinuet wrote: »
But anything "natural" is chemically bonded at the molecular level. When people talk of chemicals, they speak of artificial, but artificial isn't really "bad" in anyway unless there's a health issue with it.MinuitMinuet wrote: »Yes, they are bad for you.
No, they are not bad for you.
Depends on how you are looking at them. Chemicals and fake sugars are never as good as all natural.. Zero calories won't make you gain weight though. And the chances of cancer? Negligible.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I disagree. You can believe how you like and I will continue to believe that God doesn't make mistakes, but man fouls everything up daily. Artificial in my book will always be "not good for you." You may have to drink 100 cans a day for a month to develop major health risks because the amount of aspartame per serving is negligible, and frankly I don't find that enough of a threat to stop partaking once in awhile myself, but that doesn't take away from the truth that artificial is never as good as natural.
I will agree that God doesn't make mistakes.
That doesn't mean that everything man does is a mistake. Sure, mankind has made plenty...but we have no evidence that I've seen to indicate that aspartame is one of them.6 -
janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »It's not "bad" neither is it good. Drinking it daily however isn't something I'd do personally. Looking at the ingredients of most of those drinks there's no need for the body to be constantly full of that.
Given that we're omnivores and capable of meeting our nutritional needs in all kinds of ways, there isn't really a "need" for us to consume any individual item in our diet. Yet we still do consume these things . . .
Speak for yourself. I "need" to eat some pizza today. I'm pretty sure I'll collapse if I don't. True story.11 -
RebeccaHovland wrote: »They are not great for you. Aspartame, the artificial sweetener is really bad for you over time. Definitely do some research on that. As for your diet, they will only satisfy your craving for sugar, not curb it. You will still crave sugar because your body will still register that artificial sweetener as the real deal. I only allow myself to have a diet soda like once a month because its just better to go with unsweetened tea, water, or powerade zero.
Good luck!
Rebecca
wait a second, how exactly is your powerade zero any better than a diet soda??
(ingredients:
Water, Citric Acid, Salt And Mono-Potassium Phosphate And Magnesium Chloride And Calcium Chloride (Electrolyte Sources), Natural Flavors, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium, Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide), Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride), Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin), Blue 1, Ascorbic Acid (To Protect Taste), Calcium Disodium EDTA (To Protect Color).)11 -
JeepHair77 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »It's not "bad" neither is it good. Drinking it daily however isn't something I'd do personally. Looking at the ingredients of most of those drinks there's no need for the body to be constantly full of that.
Given that we're omnivores and capable of meeting our nutritional needs in all kinds of ways, there isn't really a "need" for us to consume any individual item in our diet. Yet we still do consume these things . . .
Speak for yourself. I "need" to eat some pizza today. I'm pretty sure I'll collapse if I don't. True story.
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Depends on you. Artificial sugars give me migraines so I cant drink them. I LOVE flavored sparkling water (the kind with no sweeteners)
But if you don't have a problem with the artificial sugars than they are fine. 0 calories is better than 200 from a normal coke.3 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »RebeccaHovland wrote: »They are not great for you. Aspartame, the artificial sweetener is really bad for you over time. Definitely do some research on that. As for your diet, they will only satisfy your craving for sugar, not curb it. You will still crave sugar because your body will still register that artificial sweetener as the real deal. I only allow myself to have a diet soda like once a month because its just better to go with unsweetened tea, water, or powerade zero.
Good luck!
Rebecca
wait a second, how exactly is your powerade zero any better than a diet soda??
(ingredients:
Water, Citric Acid, Salt And Mono-Potassium Phosphate And Magnesium Chloride And Calcium Chloride (Electrolyte Sources), Natural Flavors, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium, Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide), Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride), Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin), Blue 1, Ascorbic Acid (To Protect Taste), Calcium Disodium EDTA (To Protect Color).)
It must be better - it doesn't contain shudder - aspartame!6 -
MinuitMinuet wrote: »
But anything "natural" is chemically bonded at the molecular level. When people talk of chemicals, they speak of artificial, but artificial isn't really "bad" in anyway unless there's a health issue with it.MinuitMinuet wrote: »Yes, they are bad for you.
No, they are not bad for you.
Depends on how you are looking at them. Chemicals and fake sugars are never as good as all natural.. Zero calories won't make you gain weight though. And the chances of cancer? Negligible.
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I disagree. You can believe how you like and I will continue to believe that God doesn't make mistakes, but man fouls everything up daily. Artificial in my book will always be "not good for you." You may have to drink 100 cans a day for a month to develop major health risks because the amount of aspartame per serving is negligible, and frankly I don't find that enough of a threat to stop partaking once in awhile myself, but that doesn't take away from the truth that artificial is never as good as natural.
IF you drink 100 cans a day of water for a month, you'll develop major health problems long before the aspartame kills you.
For the record, that 1200-1600 oz or 9-12 Gallons.
I give it 3 days max for water toxication.4 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »MinuitMinuet wrote: »
But anything "natural" is chemically bonded at the molecular level. When people talk of chemicals, they speak of artificial, but artificial isn't really "bad" in anyway unless there's a health issue with it.MinuitMinuet wrote: »Yes, they are bad for you.
No, they are not bad for you.
Depends on how you are looking at them. Chemicals and fake sugars are never as good as all natural.. Zero calories won't make you gain weight though. And the chances of cancer? Negligible.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
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I disagree. You can believe how you like and I will continue to believe that God doesn't make mistakes, but man fouls everything up daily. Artificial in my book will always be "not good for you." You may have to drink 100 cans a day for a month to develop major health risks because the amount of aspartame per serving is negligible, and frankly I don't find that enough of a threat to stop partaking once in awhile myself, but that doesn't take away from the truth that artificial is never as good as natural.
I will agree that God doesn't make mistakes.
That doesn't mean that everything man does is a mistake. Sure, mankind has made plenty...but we have no evidence that I've seen to indicate that aspartame is one of them.
Also "God being incapable of mistake" is not somehow equivalent to "nature is your friend and everything that exists in nature is good for you". Nature is indifferent to the wellbeing of humanity. Do you know who isn't indifferent to the wellbeing of humanity? Humanity.20 -
janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »It's not "bad" neither is it good. Drinking it daily however isn't something I'd do personally. Looking at the ingredients of most of those drinks there's no need for the body to be constantly full of that.
Given that we're omnivores and capable of meeting our nutritional needs in all kinds of ways, there isn't really a "need" for us to consume any individual item in our diet. Yet we still do consume these things . . .
True, however there's some nutritional benefit from most food items, soda on the other hand... Purely for taste which has it's place.2 -
NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »It's not "bad" neither is it good. Drinking it daily however isn't something I'd do personally. Looking at the ingredients of most of those drinks there's no need for the body to be constantly full of that.
Given that we're omnivores and capable of meeting our nutritional needs in all kinds of ways, there isn't really a "need" for us to consume any individual item in our diet. Yet we still do consume these things . . .
True, however there's some nutritional benefit from most food items, soda on the other hand... Purely for taste which has it's place.
Water (which makes up the majority of the volume of diet soda) does have benefits for us.4 -
WTF does "God" have to do with soda?11
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Cracks me up when people are asking. Where did you hear they were bad for you" ..lol
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karintalley wrote: »Cracks me up when people are asking. Where did you hear they were bad for you" ..lol
why does that crack you up? You don't think understanding the source of pseudoscience and misinformation is important in being able to help discuss someone's beliefs and maybe encourage them to do a more thorough job of vetting information?8 -
janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »It's not "bad" neither is it good. Drinking it daily however isn't something I'd do personally. Looking at the ingredients of most of those drinks there's no need for the body to be constantly full of that.
Given that we're omnivores and capable of meeting our nutritional needs in all kinds of ways, there isn't really a "need" for us to consume any individual item in our diet. Yet we still do consume these things . . .
True, however there's some nutritional benefit from most food items, soda on the other hand... Purely for taste which has it's place.
Water (which makes up the majority of the volume of diet soda) does have benefits for us.
Lol. You're clearly bored so I'll let you win this.6 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »MinuitMinuet wrote: »
But anything "natural" is chemically bonded at the molecular level. When people talk of chemicals, they speak of artificial, but artificial isn't really "bad" in anyway unless there's a health issue with it.MinuitMinuet wrote: »Yes, they are bad for you.
No, they are not bad for you.
Depends on how you are looking at them. Chemicals and fake sugars are never as good as all natural.. Zero calories won't make you gain weight though. And the chances of cancer? Negligible.
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I disagree. You can believe how you like and I will continue to believe that God doesn't make mistakes, but man fouls everything up daily. Artificial in my book will always be "not good for you." You may have to drink 100 cans a day for a month to develop major health risks because the amount of aspartame per serving is negligible, and frankly I don't find that enough of a threat to stop partaking once in awhile myself, but that doesn't take away from the truth that artificial is never as good as natural.
I will agree that God doesn't make mistakes.
That doesn't mean that everything man does is a mistake. Sure, mankind has made plenty...but we have no evidence that I've seen to indicate that aspartame is one of them.
Also "God being incapable of mistake" is not somehow equivalent to "nature is your friend and everything that exists in nature is good for you". Nature is indifferent to the wellbeing of humanity. Do you know who isn't indifferent to the wellbeing of humanity? Humanity.Aaron_K123 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »MinuitMinuet wrote: »
But anything "natural" is chemically bonded at the molecular level. When people talk of chemicals, they speak of artificial, but artificial isn't really "bad" in anyway unless there's a health issue with it.MinuitMinuet wrote: »Yes, they are bad for you.
No, they are not bad for you.
Depends on how you are looking at them. Chemicals and fake sugars are never as good as all natural.. Zero calories won't make you gain weight though. And the chances of cancer? Negligible.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I disagree. You can believe how you like and I will continue to believe that God doesn't make mistakes, but man fouls everything up daily. Artificial in my book will always be "not good for you." You may have to drink 100 cans a day for a month to develop major health risks because the amount of aspartame per serving is negligible, and frankly I don't find that enough of a threat to stop partaking once in awhile myself, but that doesn't take away from the truth that artificial is never as good as natural.
I will agree that God doesn't make mistakes.
That doesn't mean that everything man does is a mistake. Sure, mankind has made plenty...but we have no evidence that I've seen to indicate that aspartame is one of them.
Also "God being incapable of mistake" is not somehow equivalent to "nature is your friend and everything that exists in nature is good for you". Nature is indifferent to the wellbeing of humanity. Do you know who isn't indifferent to the wellbeing of humanity? Humanity.
Indeed. It would be a mistake to eat certain mushrooms God created. Also, trying to pet a Komodo dragon. Both being totally natural things and far more dangerous than man-made sweeteners.10 -
*sips diet coke*2
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WinoGelato wrote: »karintalley wrote: »Cracks me up when people are asking. Where did you hear they were bad for you" ..lol
why does that crack you up? You don't think understanding the source of pseudoscience and misinformation is important in being able to help discuss someone's beliefs and maybe encourage them to do a more thorough job of vetting information?
It cracks me up when people ask the OP where he heard this info...because.....its that kind of misinformation I hear often, on tv, radio, bloggs, you name it. It's all over. It's going to be harder to find peoole telling you its not bad for you..lol
Anyways, no hard feelings.
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NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »It's not "bad" neither is it good. Drinking it daily however isn't something I'd do personally. Looking at the ingredients of most of those drinks there's no need for the body to be constantly full of that.
Given that we're omnivores and capable of meeting our nutritional needs in all kinds of ways, there isn't really a "need" for us to consume any individual item in our diet. Yet we still do consume these things . . .
True, however there's some nutritional benefit from most food items, soda on the other hand... Purely for taste which has it's place.
Water (which makes up the majority of the volume of diet soda) does have benefits for us.
Lol. You're clearly bored so I'll let you win this.
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karintalley wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »karintalley wrote: »Cracks me up when people are asking. Where did you hear they were bad for you" ..lol
why does that crack you up? You don't think understanding the source of pseudoscience and misinformation is important in being able to help discuss someone's beliefs and maybe encourage them to do a more thorough job of vetting information?
It cracks me up when people ask the OP where he heard this info...because.....its that kind of misinformation I hear often, on tv, radio, bloggs, you name it. It's all over. It's going to be harder to find peoole telling you its not bad for you..lol
Anyways, no hard feelings.
Oh I agree the misinformation is astoundingly prevalent - however, there often are some clues back to a main source - Food Babe or some other fearmonger that helps highlight not only why this information is not credible, but that other information coming off of that site is dubious as well.6 -
Considering the volume of threads and amount of posts on said threads for diet coke related matters of late, I would say that there is ample audience out there for a yet another pseudo-health documentary where we can blame diet coke for everything short of the downfall of Western civilization.
Somebody should start a kickstarter or else reach out to a venture capitalist with some bucks to play around with so that we might be able to profit from this.1 -
Aspartame/diet pop isn't harmful. There are so many other threads that discuss this, and discuss it well, so I won't add my flawed explanations here. For me personally, I limit myself to one diet pop (or two single-serve envelopes of Crystal Light that have been extremely watered down) in a day. I do this because for some reason having any more than that consistently increases pain in some joints, but this is a response that I have observed in myself over long periods under a variety of purposely applied conditions. However, for pretty much anyone else - go to town. My mother drinks it like it's water, for example. You do you.2
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »RebeccaHovland wrote: »They are not great for you. Aspartame, the artificial sweetener is really bad for you over time. Definitely do some research on that. As for your diet, they will only satisfy your craving for sugar, not curb it. You will still crave sugar because your body will still register that artificial sweetener as the real deal. I only allow myself to have a diet soda like once a month because its just better to go with unsweetened tea, water, or powerade zero.
Good luck!
Rebecca
wait a second, how exactly is your powerade zero any better than a diet soda??
(ingredients:
Water, Citric Acid, Salt And Mono-Potassium Phosphate And Magnesium Chloride And Calcium Chloride (Electrolyte Sources), Natural Flavors, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium, Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide), Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride), Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin), Blue 1, Ascorbic Acid (To Protect Taste), Calcium Disodium EDTA (To Protect Color).)
It must be better - it doesn't contain shudder - aspartame!
Apparently sucralose and acesulfame-K (both artificial sweeteners themselves) aren't teh poizonzzz like aspartame.
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Someone is going ham with the "abuse" flag. Rut roh!2
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Yeah to the person "flagging" posts. People disagreeing with your publicly stated beliefs is not "abuse", even if it hurts your feelings to be disagreed with. Honestly if you can't stand having your beliefs criticized its probably best if you don't promote them on a public forum because chances are someone somewhere will not agree with you and might even decide to share that.13
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NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »NoLimitAsLimit wrote: »It's not "bad" neither is it good. Drinking it daily however isn't something I'd do personally. Looking at the ingredients of most of those drinks there's no need for the body to be constantly full of that.
Given that we're omnivores and capable of meeting our nutritional needs in all kinds of ways, there isn't really a "need" for us to consume any individual item in our diet. Yet we still do consume these things . . .
True, however there's some nutritional benefit from most food items, soda on the other hand... Purely for taste which has it's place.
Water (which makes up the majority of the volume of diet soda) does have benefits for us.
Lol. You're clearly bored so I'll let you win this.
I'm not bored, I just don't understand your position. If you don't want to explain your reasoning, that's fine.4
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