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Vegan Debate - Are we truly Herbivores or Omnivores.
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NorthCascades wrote: »@Nony_Mouse
I didn't think you were suggesting we should eat meat because cavemen did. I think it's kind if built into the question.
I didn't really think you were @NorthCascades, clarifying for the masses. Anyone who remembers the raging debates I used to have with the paleo dieters knows my thoughts on that! That whole 'man the hunter' thing was debunked yonks ago, anyway. And even if we could eat the way our Palaeolithic ancestors did (which was obviously remarkably varied depending on When and Where), doesn't mean we should.
Basically, being omnivores gives us the awesome ability to meet our nutritional requirements from a wide variety of sources. As my profile tag lines says, anything that you can ingest that doesn't kill you, whilst avoiding anything that might kill you if it gets the chance 6 -
OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Some vegans believe this idea. I at one time fell into this ideal of thinking, when trying to find the right way of eating and what's the most natural form that we should go.
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Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.4 -
Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
He also wasn't calling you stupid guy. I'm pretty sure he aimed that comment at himself because he was asking where the idea came from.
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Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
I believe he was referring to himself, not you. Saying he was stupid and asking you a stupid question...not that you were stupid and asking us a stupid question.5 -
Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
I think there was a misunderstanding on who was being referred to in the "stupid guy asking a stupid question" part...seems @jjpptt2 was referring to himself while it came across that he meant the OP.2 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
I think there was a misunderstanding on who was being referred to in the "stupid guy asking a stupid question" part...seems @jjpptt2 was referring to himself while it came across that he meant the OP.
Correct - I was referring to myself as the stupid guy who was asking a stupid question. Sorry if it seemed like that was directed at OP - not my intent at all.6 -
Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
My bad, I read it wrong. Just sipped my coffee and now everything makes sense LOL. okay, edited my response.
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Carlos_421 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
I think there was a misunderstanding on who was being referred to in the "stupid guy asking a stupid question" part...seems @jjpptt2 was referring to himself while it came across that he meant the OP.
I guess that what happens when you don't have your morning coffee. LOL, updated my response. 2 -
Lavelle1980 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
My bad, I read it wrong. Just sipped my coffee and now everything makes sense LOL. okay, edited my response.
I believe most wars would have been avoided if the principal players had had their coffee before responding to what they thought were insults.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Can a human exist at optimal health on a herbivore diet with no supplements? No? Well, there you go.
We are omnivores, but I don't think this is a valid argument for proving it. The question would have to be could humans ever exist at optimal health on a herbivore diet. It's quite possible that at some point in time we could.2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Can a human exist at optimal health on a herbivore diet with no supplements? No? Well, there you go.
We are omnivores, but I don't think this is a valid argument for proving it. The question would have to be could humans ever exist at optimal health on a herbivore diet. It's quite possible that at some point in time we could.
I wonder if Giant Pandas could be used as an example. I don't know much about them, including how long they've been surviving on a herbivore diet despite an omnivore digestive system.0 -
Lavelle1980 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
I think there was a misunderstanding on who was being referred to in the "stupid guy asking a stupid question" part...seems @jjpptt2 was referring to himself while it came across that he meant the OP.
I guess that what happens when you don't have your morning coffee. LOL, updated my response.
Funny thing...I read it as an insult myself before I had my coffee...then read it as intended afterward.
Coffee = harmony7 -
WorkerDrone83 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Can a human exist at optimal health on a herbivore diet with no supplements? No? Well, there you go.
We are omnivores, but I don't think this is a valid argument for proving it. The question would have to be could humans ever exist at optimal health on a herbivore diet. It's quite possible that at some point in time we could.
I wonder if Giant Pandas could be used as an example. I don't know much about them, including how long they've been surviving on a herbivore diet despite an omnivore digestive system.
Pandas will eat meat, including eggs and small rodents.6 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »WorkerDrone83 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Can a human exist at optimal health on a herbivore diet with no supplements? No? Well, there you go.
We are omnivores, but I don't think this is a valid argument for proving it. The question would have to be could humans ever exist at optimal health on a herbivore diet. It's quite possible that at some point in time we could.
I wonder if Giant Pandas could be used as an example. I don't know much about them, including how long they've been surviving on a herbivore diet despite an omnivore digestive system.
Pandas will eat meat, including eggs and small rodents.
Yeah, I just read that. That might be some proof in itself. haha. Still they waste an exorbitant amount of resources and energy eating bamboo instead of just eating meat in accordance with their carnivorous nature.1 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
I think there was a misunderstanding on who was being referred to in the "stupid guy asking a stupid question" part...seems @jjpptt2 was referring to himself while it came across that he meant the OP.
I guess that what happens when you don't have your morning coffee. LOL, updated my response.
Funny thing...I read it as an insult myself before I had my coffee...then read it as intended afterward.
Coffee = harmony
Me too, although there was no coffee involved on my end. 1 -
Lavelle1980 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
My bad, I read it wrong. Just sipped my coffee and now everything makes sense LOL. okay, edited my response.
I believe most wars would have been avoided if the principal players had had their coffee before responding to what they thought were insults.
HA HA HA. So true! I would of avoided child support if I just had a nice cup of coffee 17 years ago
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Carlos_421 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
I think there was a misunderstanding on who was being referred to in the "stupid guy asking a stupid question" part...seems @jjpptt2 was referring to himself while it came across that he meant the OP.
I guess that what happens when you don't have your morning coffee. LOL, updated my response.
Funny thing...I read it as an insult myself before I had my coffee...then read it as intended afterward.
Coffee = harmony
Me too, although there was no coffee involved on my end.
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Lavelle1980 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »Lavelle1980 wrote: »OK, stupid guy asking stupid question... but where did the idea that we were herbivores come from? That seems ridiculous to me...
Well it's a debate. Just like there are a group of people that believe the earth is flat. I'll refrain from calling you names though. Thanks for the comment.
No one called you names. Saying an idea seems ridiculous isn't the same as saying you are ridiculous. And this, much like the question of whether the Earth is flat, isn't a debate. There are facts, and people who choose to ignore those facts.
My bad, I read it wrong. Just sipped my coffee and now everything makes sense LOL. okay, edited my response.
I believe most wars would have been avoided if the principal players had had their coffee before responding to what they thought were insults.
HA HA HA. So true! I would of avoided child support if I just had a nice cup of coffee 17 years ago
The child support may have happened anyway. She may have been looking for a fight in any way she could, I don't know. Sucks for you though, but I'm sure your child is worth the inconvenience right now. And there's only so many more years you have to pay for them!3
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