Is eating 2 baked potatoes for one meal bad?
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Normally one does not seem enough for me so I normally have two standard size ones.
I'm just thinking of GI index and in the long term diabetes.
Would eating 2 on a regular basis be bad in the long run or is it more to genetics and being overweight that contributes to diabetes.
I tend to pair the potatoes with a good amount of protein too.
Thanks
I'm just thinking of GI index and in the long term diabetes.
Would eating 2 on a regular basis be bad in the long run or is it more to genetics and being overweight that contributes to diabetes.
I tend to pair the potatoes with a good amount of protein too.
Thanks
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How does your blood sugar handle potatoes now? That's what's most important. Carb intake does not cause diabetes, but needs to be watched once you have it.6
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Unnecessary worry is bad. It's bad for you, and it makes me sad, too
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Diabetes can occur in thin people too. Have a reason for worrying about diabetes? Two potatoes a day is not going to cause diabetes.6
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Things that increase the chances of getting diabetes: obesity, inactivity, genetics, certain races, and some medications.
I love me some meat and potatoes. My A1C's have never been better.10 -
It depends:
What are you eating with them? I find it impossible to eat white potatoes plain. Also, how many exercise calories do you have that day? Do you need the carbs?10 -
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The best place to get this information (aside from your medical doctor whom you trust) is the American Diabetes Association. Assuming of course they aren't "full of woo" as it were.
diabetes.org/are-you-at-risk/diabetes-risk-test/1 -
I'll have two loaded baked potatoes (cheddar cheese, bacon, and sour cream) as meal, and I haven't had any problems. I make sure to hit my macros and nutrients with my other meals, and it fits into my calories. It does tend to kick me into a higher-than-normal carb intake for the day, but it hasn't been a problem. I tend to have it as dinner, so I've eaten enough during the day that the carbs don't make me want to overeat and if I feel tired, I can just go to bed.7
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Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »It depends:
What are you eating with them? I find it impossible to eat white potatoes plain.
I eat potatoes (white and red and purple) plain all the time, and when I don't I normally just add a touch of olive oil.
Also, adding a little butter or sour cream (common more caloric things one adds to potatoes) or 0% greek yogurt (works as well as sour cream, IMO) is not going to make a huge difference.Also, how many exercise calories do you have that day? Do you need the carbs?
I'd say "what else are you eating that day, do you feel satisfied on an appropriate number of calories, are you getting enough protein, fat, and vegetables." If so, two potatoes is totally fine, enjoy!7 -
The best place to get this information (aside from your medical doctor whom you trust) is the American Diabetes Association. Assuming of course they aren't "full of woo" as it were.
diabetes.org/are-you-at-risk/diabetes-risk-test/
That link did not work for me. However, I checked the site and saw nothing suggesting that baked potatoes cause diabetes (the risk factors on the test I think are mostly obesity, genetics, and age). It wasn't very helpful on what does, but everything I've read is consistent with what psulemon wrote above: avoid obesity, inactivity, and eat a generally healthy diet. Genetics and some medications can be risk factors. Lots of sugary soda is the main dietary thing that seems clearly a bad idea, although it might be simply a correlation.
No correlation with higher carb diets that are also healthy (and no reason to assume 2 baked potatoes at a meal = a higher carb diet anyway).
I'm not saying you were trying to suggest that the advice given here so far is bad or that OP should worry about potatoes, but since the link didn't work for me and since someone else above is attacking the people giving advice, I thought it might be helpful to elaborate.5 -
Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »I'll have two loaded baked potatoes (cheddar cheese, bacon, and sour cream) as meal, and I haven't had any problems. I make sure to hit my macros and nutrients with my other meals, and it fits into my calories. It does tend to kick me into a higher-than-normal carb intake for the day, but it hasn't been a problem. I tend to have it as dinner, so I've eaten enough during the day that the carbs don't make me want to overeat and if I feel tired, I can just go to bed.
If you are getting adequate exercise that is a big part of maintaining good health. We tend to think that because we are well today that we will be well tomorrow. Damage is accumulated. Which is why we tend to see certain consequences from abusing our bodies at an older age more often than at a younger age. If you are getting regular yearly check-ups, and you do not feel physically off then you should be fine. Listen to your body and if in doubt ask your doctor for advice.
What does this have anything to do with eating potatoes?6 -
Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »I'll have two loaded baked potatoes (cheddar cheese, bacon, and sour cream) as meal, and I haven't had any problems. I make sure to hit my macros and nutrients with my other meals, and it fits into my calories. It does tend to kick me into a higher-than-normal carb intake for the day, but it hasn't been a problem. I tend to have it as dinner, so I've eaten enough during the day that the carbs don't make me want to overeat and if I feel tired, I can just go to bed.
If you are getting adequate exercise that is a big part of maintaining good health. We tend to think that because we are well today that we will be well tomorrow. Damage is accumulated. Which is why we tend to see certain consequences from abusing our bodies at an older age more often than at a younger age. If you are getting regular yearly check-ups, and you do not feel physically off then you should be fine. Listen to your body and if in doubt ask your doctor for advice.
I never said I had any concerns about my health.0 -
Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »A lot of medical doctors in here telling you untrue things. When you eat carbs and sugar your pancreas pumps out insulin to help your body take in said carbs and sugar. When you give your body high amounts of carbs and sugar you demand more insulin. You eventually can possibly become insulin resistant. Many people believe that insulin resistance is a myth. It isn't by the way. It is what happens when you are on your way to becoming diabetic. Exercise can help take the edge off of this biological and scientifically proven process.
If you exercise your body demands more fuel. Fat and blood glucose. When you do not exercise enough for your body to demand these fuels you get a rise in blood sugar and insulin resistance. When you start feeling that you are getting low blood sugars an hour or two after eating said baked potatoes (or other high carb items) that is when you know that you are no longer processing this high amount of carbs and sugar properly. Some people may never feel that they have these warning episodes of poor processing of carbs and sugar. Others do. Insulin resistance can be reversed. Usually with a lower carb and sugar eating plan coupled with good exercise.
Anyone who does not understand how excessive carbs and sugar can actually cause type 2 diabetes has never taken a lesson in Biology. Insulin is real, high levels of insulin are bad for you, high levels of blood glucose is bad for you, spiking your blood sugar on a habitual basis is bad for you.
So in closing I say, how about having a single potato with some other vegetable? How do you feel about other vegetables?
Eating carbs doesn't cause diabetes. At best that might be some theory at this point. If you look at every single organization studying diabetes, none of them suggest carbs is a driver of that. If carbs caused diabetes, than the healthiest people in the world wouldn't be largely carb based.... most vegans/vegetarians would all have diabetes, etc..
The fact that the OP is consuming proteins with their potatoes would also slow the absorption of nutrients, which wouldn't cause a "spike".
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Is two baked potatoes really gonna open a can of worms?
If it fits your macros and calorie allowance, eat it. Simples.9 -
Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »A lot of medical doctors in here telling you untrue things. When you eat carbs and sugar your pancreas pumps out insulin to help your body take in said carbs and sugar. When you give your body high amounts of carbs and sugar you demand more insulin. You eventually can possibly become insulin resistant. Many people believe that insulin resistance is a myth. It isn't by the way. It is what happens when you are on your way to becoming diabetic. Exercise can help take the edge off of this biological and scientifically proven process.
If you exercise your body demands more fuel. Fat and blood glucose. When you do not exercise enough for your body to demand these fuels you get a rise in blood sugar and insulin resistance. When you start feeling that you are getting low blood sugars an hour or two after eating said baked potatoes (or other high carb items) that is when you know that you are no longer processing this high amount of carbs and sugar properly. Some people may never feel that they have these warning episodes of poor processing of carbs and sugar. Others do. Insulin resistance can be reversed. Usually with a lower carb and sugar eating plan coupled with good exercise.
Anyone who does not understand how excessive carbs and sugar can actually cause type 2 diabetes has never taken a lesson in Biology. Insulin is real, high levels of insulin are bad for you, high levels of blood glucose is bad for you, spiking your blood sugar on a habitual basis is bad for you.
So in closing I say, how about having a single potato with some other vegetable? How do you feel about other vegetables?
Eating carbs doesn't cause diabetes. At best that might be some theory at this point. If you look at every single organization studying diabetes, none of them suggest carbs is a driver of that. If carbs caused diabetes, than the healthiest people in the world wouldn't be largely carb based.... most vegans/vegetarians would all have diabetes, etc..
The fact that the OP is consuming proteins with their potatoes would also slow the absorption of nutrients, which wouldn't cause a "spike".
Sure. Whatever you need!
So explain vegans, vegetarians and the blue zones? Why don't they all have diabetes?8 -
Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »A lot of medical doctors in here telling you untrue things. When you eat carbs and sugar your pancreas pumps out insulin to help your body take in said carbs and sugar. When you give your body high amounts of carbs and sugar you demand more insulin. You eventually can possibly become insulin resistant. Many people believe that insulin resistance is a myth. It isn't by the way. It is what happens when you are on your way to becoming diabetic. Exercise can help take the edge off of this biological and scientifically proven process.
If you exercise your body demands more fuel. Fat and blood glucose. When you do not exercise enough for your body to demand these fuels you get a rise in blood sugar and insulin resistance. When you start feeling that you are getting low blood sugars an hour or two after eating said baked potatoes (or other high carb items) that is when you know that you are no longer processing this high amount of carbs and sugar properly. Some people may never feel that they have these warning episodes of poor processing of carbs and sugar. Others do. Insulin resistance can be reversed. Usually with a lower carb and sugar eating plan coupled with good exercise.
Anyone who does not understand how excessive carbs and sugar can actually cause type 2 diabetes has never taken a lesson in Biology. Insulin is real, high levels of insulin are bad for you, high levels of blood glucose is bad for you, spiking your blood sugar on a habitual basis is bad for you.
So in closing I say, how about having a single potato with some other vegetable? How do you feel about other vegetables?
Eating carbs doesn't cause diabetes. At best that might be some theory at this point. If you look at every single organization studying diabetes, none of them suggest carbs is a driver of that. If carbs caused diabetes, than the healthiest people in the world wouldn't be largely carb based.... most vegans/vegetarians would all have diabetes, etc..
The fact that the OP is consuming proteins with their potatoes would also slow the absorption of nutrients, which wouldn't cause a "spike".
Sure. Whatever you need!
Thanks for the validation.7 -
nexangelus wrote: »Is two baked potatoes really gonna open a can of worms?
If it fits your macros and calorie allowance, eat it. Simples.
No, but it should definitely open a can of beans. To stick on top of said potatoes, along with some grated cheese.
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My husband and I eat two baked potatoes topped with shredded chicken or tuna (a green curry flavour or something similar is nice), melted cheese, and sometimes some salad.
We have this once or twice a month.3 -
Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »I'll have two loaded baked potatoes (cheddar cheese, bacon, and sour cream) as meal, and I haven't had any problems. I make sure to hit my macros and nutrients with my other meals, and it fits into my calories. It does tend to kick me into a higher-than-normal carb intake for the day, but it hasn't been a problem. I tend to have it as dinner, so I've eaten enough during the day that the carbs don't make me want to overeat and if I feel tired, I can just go to bed.
If you are getting adequate exercise that is a big part of maintaining good health. We tend to think that because we are well today that we will be well tomorrow. Damage is accumulated. Which is why we tend to see certain consequences from abusing our bodies at an older age more often than at a younger age. If you are getting regular yearly check-ups, and you do not feel physically off then you should be fine. Listen to your body and if in doubt ask your doctor for advice.
I never said I had any concerns about my health.
I believe I should clarify, You said, "I'll have two loaded baked potatoes (cheddar cheese, bacon, and sour cream) as meal, and I haven't had any problems. " and " I tend to have it as dinner, so I've eaten enough during the day that the carbs don't make me want to overeat ..." I was speaking on these two points. Sorry for the confusion!
That still has nothing to do with concerns about my health. The OP asked if it was bad, I said I didn't have any problems. Feelings of wanting to overeat or feeling sluggish after a high carb intake is also not a health concern, it's something that some people experience that can be easily handled by watching carb intake and timing.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »The best place to get this information (aside from your medical doctor whom you trust) is the American Diabetes Association. Assuming of course they aren't "full of woo" as it were.
diabetes.org/are-you-at-risk/diabetes-risk-test/
That link did not work for me. However, I checked the site and saw nothing suggesting that baked potatoes cause diabetes (the risk factors on the test I think are mostly obesity, genetics, and age). It wasn't very helpful on what does, but everything I've read is consistent with what psulemon wrote above: avoid obesity, inactivity, and eat a generally healthy diet. Genetics and some medications can be risk factors. Lots of sugary soda is the main dietary thing that seems clearly a bad idea, although it might be simply a correlation.
No correlation with higher carb diets that are also healthy (and no reason to assume 2 baked potatoes at a meal = a higher carb diet anyway).
I'm not saying you were trying to suggest that the advice given here so far is bad or that OP should worry about potatoes, but since the link didn't work for me and since someone else above is attacking the people giving advice, I thought it might be helpful to elaborate.
You went there searching for baked potatoes in relation to diabetes? Where did I say that that specific info could be found there? I said, "The best place to get INFORMATION." As in, this is a place where information can be found. I did NOT say, " this is the place to find out if potatoes cause diabetes. "
The OP said, "I'm just thinking of GI index and in the long term diabetes.
Would eating 2 on a regular basis be bad in the long run or is it more to genetics and being overweight that contributes to diabetes."
In order to direct the OP to find information on said GI index and the like, I posted this link. I am very careful about saying exactly what I mean and nothing more. I do not appreciate when people try to put words into my mouth.4 -
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Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »A lot of medical doctors in here telling you untrue things. When you eat carbs and sugar your pancreas pumps out insulin to help your body take in said carbs and sugar. When you give your body high amounts of carbs and sugar you demand more insulin. You eventually can possibly become insulin resistant. Many people believe that insulin resistance is a myth. It isn't by the way. It is what happens when you are on your way to becoming diabetic. Exercise can help take the edge off of this biological and scientifically proven process.
If you exercise your body demands more fuel. Fat and blood glucose. When you do not exercise enough for your body to demand these fuels you get a rise in blood sugar and insulin resistance. When you start feeling that you are getting low blood sugars an hour or two after eating said baked potatoes (or other high carb items) that is when you know that you are no longer processing this high amount of carbs and sugar properly. Some people may never feel that they have these warning episodes of poor processing of carbs and sugar. Others do. Insulin resistance can be reversed. Usually with a lower carb and sugar eating plan coupled with good exercise.
Anyone who does not understand how excessive carbs and sugar can actually cause type 2 diabetes has never taken a lesson in Biology. Insulin is real, high levels of insulin are bad for you, high levels of blood glucose is bad for you, spiking your blood sugar on a habitual basis is bad for you.
So in closing I say, how about having a single potato with some other vegetable? How do you feel about other vegetables?
Eating carbs doesn't cause diabetes. At best that might be some theory at this point. If you look at every single organization studying diabetes, none of them suggest carbs is a driver of that. If carbs caused diabetes, than the healthiest people in the world wouldn't be largely carb based.... most vegans/vegetarians would all have diabetes, etc..
The fact that the OP is consuming proteins with their potatoes would also slow the absorption of nutrients, which wouldn't cause a "spike".
Sure. Whatever you need!
Thanks for the validation.
Mistake it for validation. I was dismissing you.
And he was dismissing you.11 -
At least two people in this very thread were able to lower their blood sugar significantly without controlling carbs, simply by losing weight. I routinely eat more than 2 potatoes worth of carbs and I don't get a dip in blood glucose or have any issues with carb induced hunger because I'm no longer prediabetic. My postprandial glucose readings fall into the normal range - not even slightly elevated. Do you like potatoes? Do they make dieting easier? Great! Have at it then. Weight is a big risk factor for diabetes so if you are concerned about diabetes weight management and adequate physical activity should be your main priority, the same can't be said about carb intake (as mentioned earlier, vegans actually have significantly lower rates of diabetes as a group so if carb intake had much to do with it, it wouldn't have been the case).
ETA: just to give you an idea, I had a huge lunch today and my blood glucose was still perfect (I routinely test after large meals to catch any creep up, if any)
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Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »A lot of medical doctors in here telling you untrue things. When you eat carbs and sugar your pancreas pumps out insulin to help your body take in said carbs and sugar. When you give your body high amounts of carbs and sugar you demand more insulin. You eventually can possibly become insulin resistant. Many people believe that insulin resistance is a myth. It isn't by the way. It is what happens when you are on your way to becoming diabetic. Exercise can help take the edge off of this biological and scientifically proven process.
If you exercise your body demands more fuel. Fat and blood glucose. When you do not exercise enough for your body to demand these fuels you get a rise in blood sugar and insulin resistance. When you start feeling that you are getting low blood sugars an hour or two after eating said baked potatoes (or other high carb items) that is when you know that you are no longer processing this high amount of carbs and sugar properly. Some people may never feel that they have these warning episodes of poor processing of carbs and sugar. Others do. Insulin resistance can be reversed. Usually with a lower carb and sugar eating plan coupled with good exercise.
Anyone who does not understand how excessive carbs and sugar can actually cause type 2 diabetes has never taken a lesson in Biology. Insulin is real, high levels of insulin are bad for you, high levels of blood glucose is bad for you, spiking your blood sugar on a habitual basis is bad for you.
So in closing I say, how about having a single potato with some other vegetable? How do you feel about other vegetables?
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20857657,00.html#myth-exercise-can-t-help-prevent-type-2-diabetes-0
https://www.prevention.com/health/7-diabetes-myths-debunked/slide/4
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/features/diabetes-myths-truth#1
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/diabetesatwork/pdfs/diabetesmyths.pdf
Those people really should take a lesson in biology from you.14 -
now Iv read this I want jacket spuds for dinner3
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I am taking 2 medium size potatoes for lunch. People often forget that potatoes are vegetables. They are one of the most starchy ones but, they are still vegetables and have nutrients. To help control my blood sugar I usually have apple cider vinegar after lunch. It tastes as awful as it sounds but I have found a concoction that works for my taste buds. Cinnamon is in that drink. Both of those regulate blood sugar.
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Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Eyeswithoutaface wrote: »A lot of medical doctors in here telling you untrue things. When you eat carbs and sugar your pancreas pumps out insulin to help your body take in said carbs and sugar. When you give your body high amounts of carbs and sugar you demand more insulin. You eventually can possibly become insulin resistant. Many people believe that insulin resistance is a myth. It isn't by the way. It is what happens when you are on your way to becoming diabetic. Exercise can help take the edge off of this biological and scientifically proven process.
If you exercise your body demands more fuel. Fat and blood glucose. When you do not exercise enough for your body to demand these fuels you get a rise in blood sugar and insulin resistance. When you start feeling that you are getting low blood sugars an hour or two after eating said baked potatoes (or other high carb items) that is when you know that you are no longer processing this high amount of carbs and sugar properly. Some people may never feel that they have these warning episodes of poor processing of carbs and sugar. Others do. Insulin resistance can be reversed. Usually with a lower carb and sugar eating plan coupled with good exercise.
Anyone who does not understand how excessive carbs and sugar can actually cause type 2 diabetes has never taken a lesson in Biology. Insulin is real, high levels of insulin are bad for you, high levels of blood glucose is bad for you, spiking your blood sugar on a habitual basis is bad for you.
So in closing I say, how about having a single potato with some other vegetable? How do you feel about other vegetables?
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20857657,00.html#myth-exercise-can-t-help-prevent-type-2-diabetes-0
https://www.prevention.com/health/7-diabetes-myths-debunked/slide/4
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/features/diabetes-myths-truth#1
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/diabetesatwork/pdfs/diabetesmyths.pdf
Those people really should take a lesson in biology from you.
Prevention? You consider them a reputable source? "okay". LOL!
The pancreas puts out insulin on a supply and demand basis. This is an indisputable fact. Abusing this function is what causes diabetes coupled with inadequate exercise. Are you implying that the body does not function in this way?
I'm not implying that. The Diabetes Association, the CDC and a whole bunch of other scientists (i.e. all of them) explicitly say diabetes does not work that way.12
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