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American-seniors-are-sicker-than-global-peers story.
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suzannesimmons3 wrote: »Cool data! One of my things.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240855/How-does-nation-rank-world-map-life-expectancy.html
Glad I’m Canadian. I’m pretty sure our obesity rates are on par with the US.
I wouldn't believe the mail if it told me the sun was hot.
I linked the article for the map alone. Is the map wrong?
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Here’s another world map, not from the Daily Mail.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/world-health-rankings
Canada ranks slightly better off than the US, which is consistent with the other maps.
Canada has some shameful pockets too. We have to do a better job of engaging our native nations and communities.0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »Cool data! One of my things.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240855/How-does-nation-rank-world-map-life-expectancy.html
Glad I’m Canadian. I’m pretty sure our obesity rates are on par with the US.
That's interesting, and kind of surprising. I didn't know my country ranks high on life expectancy. It's surprising because it also has one of the highest smoking rates in the world. Must be because of our one true macro (average >60% of energy intake from carbs).
It's interesting how much of a difference affordable health care makes.
Again, need to emphasize personal responsibility. Sure people need healthcare, but if they ate a healthy diet, not too much food to make them fat, moved, etc, the need for healthcare is reduced.3 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »Cool data! One of my things.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240855/How-does-nation-rank-world-map-life-expectancy.html
Glad I’m Canadian. I’m pretty sure our obesity rates are on par with the US.
I wouldn't believe the mail if it told me the sun was hot.
I know, I didn't click on the link although the underlying source might be fine. I certainly would want to see it from the better source, and not the Mail's spin/interpretation.0 -
Here’s another world map, not from the Daily Mail.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/world-health-rankings
Canada ranks slightly better off than the US, which is consistent with the other maps.
Canada has some shameful pockets too. We have to do a better job of engaging our native nations and communities.
What's the source? I couldn't easily tell from the site.
Here's the WHO:
Healthy life expectancy at birth: http://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.main.HALE?lang=en
Life expectancy at birth: http://apps.who.int/gho/data/view.main.SDG2016LEXv?lang=en
I did not compare the numbers, they might be identical -- Canada scores better here too, as does most of Europe (neither of which surprises me).1 -
If only those seniors walked a quarter mile a day, and found their one true macro they'd be so much healthier.
Cute, but not appropriate. The OP on this thread was civil.
Personally, looking at people my age (62) around me - people I know well and value in my life - I think it's deeply saddening how many people
* eat poorly;
* eat too much;
* believe inaccurate things about food ("salad is a low calorie choice");
* eschew exercise because it's too hard and sweating is icky;
* avoid daily-life movement/effort as much as possible for "efficiency";
* believe absurd popularized myths about achieving healthy weight (monster workouts required, everyone will lose weight eating ad libitum as long as they eliminate carbs 100%, sugar is the very devil irrespective of dosage/context, etc.).
And it really, really breaks my heart that so many of my friends believe improvement (strength, CV fitness, weight) is impossible "at our age". It's tragic.18 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »Cool data! One of my things.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240855/How-does-nation-rank-world-map-life-expectancy.html
Glad I’m Canadian. I’m pretty sure our obesity rates are on par with the US.
That's interesting, and kind of surprising. I didn't know my country ranks high on life expectancy. It's surprising because it also has one of the highest smoking rates in the world. Must be because of our one true macro (average >60% of energy intake from carbs).
It's interesting how much of a difference affordable health care makes.
sure is...but I wonder how many of us take advantage of it...really???? I only go when I have to...1 -
Canada is not more walkable than the US. Our obesity rates are only marginally better. Our restaurant food portions are much smaller and our food choices generally saltier.
I don’t think our nation is more disciplined than our American cousins.
Two big factors I believe is our smaller income inequality (The social safety net is broader). And of course universal health care.5 -
@jgnatca I think income is a factor. While I live in the red zone the difference in the adjoining where I live/work where I work has 2 year better life expectancy than where I live. The last time I checked there was $10K difference in income. Well education is also higher due to being the home of Murray State University. Well ed and income are related anyway.2
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I think US results get skewed because the country is not homogenous. There are definite haves and have nots.
The yellow counties in this map are much healthier. Ask yourself what makes them different.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa/life-expectancy-by-county
I'll bite. Why is rural Minnesota so very yellow?
I've read in the past that Minnesota is one of the least obese states in the US. Active lifestyle, walkable cities, supportive of biking, lots of farmers markets etc. The MN govt started a bunch of health initiatives too a few years ago to encourage physical activity, hoping to be an example for the rest of the country on how to stop the obesity epidemic. Not sure if any of that accounts for the rural counties though.2 -
I think US results get skewed because the country is not homogenous. There are definite haves and have nots.
The yellow counties in this map are much healthier. Ask yourself what makes them different.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa/life-expectancy-by-county
I'll bite. Why is rural Minnesota so very yellow?
I've read in the past that Minnesota is one of the least obese states in the US. Active lifestyle, walkable cities, supportive of biking, lots of farmers markets etc. The MN govt started a bunch of health initiatives too a few years ago to encourage physical activity, hoping to be an example for the rest of the country on how to stop the obesity epidemic. Not sure if any of that accounts for the rural counties though.
It's probably because all that shivering in the cold burns lots of calories.9 -
I think US results get skewed because the country is not homogenous. There are definite haves and have nots.
The yellow counties in this map are much healthier. Ask yourself what makes them different.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa/life-expectancy-by-county
I'll bite. Why is rural Minnesota so very yellow?
I've read in the past that Minnesota is one of the least obese states in the US. Active lifestyle, walkable cities, supportive of biking, lots of farmers markets etc. The MN govt started a bunch of health initiatives too a few years ago to encourage physical activity, hoping to be an example for the rest of the country on how to stop the obesity epidemic. Not sure if any of that accounts for the rural counties though.
It's probably because all that shivering in the cold burns lots of calories.
You forget sweating in the hot summers--and of course there's all that loss of blood(water weight) thanks to the mosquitoes. Just teasing, I'm originally from rural Minnesota--a farm girl from Scott county. I miss Minnesota!4 -
i still want to know what the one true macro is....5
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TavistockToad wrote: »i still want to know what the one true macro is....
I have never seen one true macro. If you find one expect it to be a temporary true macro.5 -
Even numbers by county can be extremely misleading (or just average out differences between population groups in ways that do not reflect the actual situation) in counties that have a lot of disparities (like the one I live in).0
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I think income inequality is a stronger indicator than raw income. If everyone is generally in the same boat, hope stays alive for everyone.0
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Can't tell you how many of my senior clients came to me for the FIRST TIME ever doing any physical fitness. And of course most of them are obese or very overweight.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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*puts hand up* Does the 55 club count? I was the geeky kid who got picked last in gym class. I used to pray that I’d at least be second last.
When I started to get active in my fifties I learned how body unaware I was. What I thought was the start of arthritis was seized up muscles in my hips.
Instead of experiencing slowly declining mobility (stairs were getting too hard) I have a new lease on life with increased health and strength.
Being body aware is a great side bonus.7 -
TavistockToad wrote: »i still want to know what the one true macro is....
pretty sure it involves some kind of Jedi Mind Trick...3
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