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punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Also your response to her response doesn't make sense to what she said.. you are claiming to use cups for liquids and a scale for meats, but we are telling you that your entries are generic and do not give you the actual calories you are consuming for what you are logging
OK so the thread is to help me better understand this fitness life that obviously people like you might have been doing this longer than me. shoot me I'm a rookie. I also said many failed attempts so yes i realize something im doing is wrong.
If this fitness app is suppose to be so helpful but apparently isnt then what am i suppose to believe on my own.
If i type in chicken breast grilled and it says 150gm = 200 calories (example)
so i weigh out 150 gm of a dam chicken breast because im lead to believe this is the best or closest thing for me to think is correct.
but your telling me its not correct. then im sorry.
I scan a bar-code tells me 1 cup = 70 calories so i measure a cup of milk. in a glass measuring cup that says this line is 1 cup
So please help me not judge me on what is the best possible way to measure and log. because just telling me im doing it wrong doesnt help me either.
I thought the things i picked where correct or as close to what im eating
Right.. and we are trying to tell you that entries being used can be wrong and the ones you are picking are wrong, isn't that what you are asking us to do?? We are telling you the entries being used are what are giving you the wrong calorie information, so now, we are hoping that you will confirm that you realize this so we can then show you how to find the real calorie counts.9 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Half a tablespoon of peanut butter isn't 12 calories... i hope you are not actually logging that as 12.. lol
i scanned the barcode of the powdered peanut butther pb2 which equaled 2tbsp (12gm) i only used 1/2 serving and thats what fitness app calculated.
We're really not trying to put you down here, @punkinjdm6. We've just all been around and faced your struggle and REPEATEDLY, this is the #1 mistake MFP users make. When you tighten up your logging (ie weighing your food and logging by weight), you see results.
In the beginning, if you're really overweight (I was 140 lbs overweight), you can kind of fudge it and get away with it. The closer you are to your goal weight, the less room for error there is.
Please trust us. This WILL help you. You just have to believe in the process.
No i dont feel this way about what your telling me everyone is being helpful but i hellyeaitskriss is just telling me how wrong i am.
not you. im understand everyone else.6 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Also your response to her response doesn't make sense to what she said.. you are claiming to use cups for liquids and a scale for meats, but we are telling you that your entries are generic and do not give you the actual calories you are consuming for what you are logging
OK so the thread is to help me better understand this fitness life that obviously people like you might have been doing this longer than me. shoot me I'm a rookie. I also said many failed attempts so yes i realize something im doing is wrong.
If this fitness app is suppose to be so helpful but apparently isnt then what am i suppose to believe on my own.
If i type in chicken breast grilled and it says 150gm = 200 calories (example)
so i weigh out 150 gm of a dam chicken breast because im lead to believe this is the best or closest thing for me to think is correct.
but your telling me its not correct. then im sorry.
I scan a bar-code tells me 1 cup = 70 calories so i measure a cup of milk. in a glass measuring cup that says this line is 1 cup
So please help me not judge me on what is the best possible way to measure and log. because just telling me im doing it wrong doesnt help me either.
I thought the things i picked where correct or as close to what im eating
Hey, try taking a deep breath. Everyone here is trying to help you. Virtually everyone here (including me) has made mistakes in logging before. That's how we're able to see this stuff -- because they are mistakes that we have made too.
Yes, there are incorrect database entries in the database. Virtually everything in there was created by other users. Some of them are great and some of them are awful, just like everything created by a big group of people with little oversight. So if you're eating something a lot, you will want to double-check the entry for accuracy. And if it's a generic/homemade entry for something like "tuna salad" or "egg salad sandwich" or "banana cream pie - homemade" it probably should be avoided completely.
For your logging to be accurate, you don't just need accurate entries, you also need to understand how much you're actually eating. That's where the food scale comes in. So that you don't have to guess or use things like "1 banana" (because bananas of different sizes can have very different calorie counts).
Nobody is judging you, we're trying to provide the help that you asked for in your first post. We're also giving you specific examples of what could be better. Nobody is just saying "You're wrong" and leaving it at that.13 -
You can friend me if you want. We're about the same height. I've almost hit my 70 lbs lost goal.
I plateaued at about 45 lbs lost. When I bought a digital scale and really got serious about measuring and weighing my food, the scale started to go down again. I'm still amazed at how far off I've been on some of my estimated foods before I got the scale. I got one for less than $20 off Amazon. It really is worth it. It is SO IMPORTANT to be ACCURATE in your logging!
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HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Also your response to her response doesn't make sense to what she said.. you are claiming to use cups for liquids and a scale for meats, but we are telling you that your entries are generic and do not give you the actual calories you are consuming for what you are logging
OK so the thread is to help me better understand this fitness life that obviously people like you might have been doing this longer than me. shoot me I'm a rookie. I also said many failed attempts so yes i realize something im doing is wrong.
If this fitness app is suppose to be so helpful but apparently isnt then what am i suppose to believe on my own.
If i type in chicken breast grilled and it says 150gm = 200 calories (example)
so i weigh out 150 gm of a dam chicken breast because im lead to believe this is the best or closest thing for me to think is correct.
but your telling me its not correct. then im sorry.
I scan a bar-code tells me 1 cup = 70 calories so i measure a cup of milk. in a glass measuring cup that says this line is 1 cup
So please help me not judge me on what is the best possible way to measure and log. because just telling me im doing it wrong doesnt help me either.
I thought the things i picked where correct or as close to what im eating
Right.. and we are trying to tell you that entries being used can be wrong and the ones you are picking are wrong, isn't that what you are asking us to do?? We are telling you the entries being used are what are giving you the wrong calorie information, so now, we are hoping that you will confirm that you realize this so we can then show you how to find the real calorie counts.
It's not exactly this. OP just doesn't quite know how to use the database yet. OP's guesses are very similar to ones I made when I was starting out.7 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Half a tablespoon of peanut butter isn't 12 calories... i hope you are not actually logging that as 12.. lol
i scanned the barcode of the powdered peanut butther pb2 which equaled 2tbsp (12gm) i only used 1/2 serving and thats what fitness app calculated.
We're really not trying to put you down here, @punkinjdm6. We've just all been around and faced your struggle and REPEATEDLY, this is the #1 mistake MFP users make. When you tighten up your logging (ie weighing your food and logging by weight), you see results.
In the beginning, if you're really overweight (I was 140 lbs overweight), you can kind of fudge it and get away with it. The closer you are to your goal weight, the less room for error there is.
Please trust us. This WILL help you. You just have to believe in the process.
No i dont feel this way about what your telling me everyone is being helpful but i hellyeaitskriss is just telling me how wrong i am.
not you. im understand everyone else.
Don't assume the worst about someone's tone. People have different communication styles and some people are more blunt than others. But I've seen @HellYeahItsKriss around here and she really does care about people. She's trying to help here, we just all have different styles. She's had a lot of success and she knows about logging.8 -
Also for the record, besides the steak and the peanut butter, I have not really said much of anything else, i actually defended you against others claiming you should go low carb, not eat your exercise calories and cause your body harm and the accusation of you eating excessively when you aren't.14
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janejellyroll wrote: »punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Also your response to her response doesn't make sense to what she said.. you are claiming to use cups for liquids and a scale for meats, but we are telling you that your entries are generic and do not give you the actual calories you are consuming for what you are logging
OK so the thread is to help me better understand this fitness life that obviously people like you might have been doing this longer than me. shoot me I'm a rookie. I also said many failed attempts so yes i realize something im doing is wrong.
If this fitness app is suppose to be so helpful but apparently isnt then what am i suppose to believe on my own.
If i type in chicken breast grilled and it says 150gm = 200 calories (example)
so i weigh out 150 gm of a dam chicken breast because im lead to believe this is the best or closest thing for me to think is correct.
but your telling me its not correct. then im sorry.
I scan a bar-code tells me 1 cup = 70 calories so i measure a cup of milk. in a glass measuring cup that says this line is 1 cup
So please help me not judge me on what is the best possible way to measure and log. because just telling me im doing it wrong doesnt help me either.
I thought the things i picked where correct or as close to what im eating
Hey, try taking a deep breath. Everyone here is trying to help you. Virtually everyone here (including me) has made mistakes in logging before. That's how we're able to see this stuff -- because they are mistakes that we have made too.
Yes, there are incorrect database entries in the database. Virtually everything in there was created by other users. Some of them are great and some of them are awful, just like everything created by a big group of people with little oversight. So if you're eating something a lot, you will want to double-check the entry for accuracy. And if it's a generic/homemade entry for something like "tuna salad" or "egg salad sandwich" or "banana cream pie - homemade" it probably should be avoided completely.
For your logging to be accurate, you don't just need accurate entries, you also need to understand how much you're actually eating. That's where the food scale comes in. So that you don't have to guess or use things like "1 banana" (because bananas of different sizes can have very different calorie counts).
Nobody is judging you, we're trying to provide the help that you asked for in your first post. We're also giving you specific examples of what could be better. Nobody is just saying "You're wrong" and leaving it at that.
Thank you.
can i ask a question. in the sense of the banana. i weight the banana in oz. it tells it is an 6 oz banana
and the myfitnessapp says 1 banana 6 oz = (random number)
so this is or is not correct?
I want to use the banana because it is an item with no bar- code.0 -
This post here is without a doubt one of the most helpful posts for this kind of problem:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p19 -
HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »punkinjdm6 wrote: »
Here's a handy chart that should help you gain some insight.
Can you help me understand the 3rd green diamond?
because when i see this on my fitness app it does confuse me
1500 - 1489+317= 358
like whaaaa??? does this mean i still have 358 calories to go or is it ok not to eat those??? i am confused
and yes i am on my 3rd week now.
If you have a calorie goal of 1500 per day... and you eat 1500 that brings you to 0 calories NET
If you workout and burn 320 calories it gives you calories because MFP already gives you a weight loss deficit and is designed to give you more calories to eat more. Also as a woman you are required to eat a minimum of 1200 calories per day. so when you burned 320 from that 1500 it brought you to 1180 NET. Which technically would be fine, If you burned MORE then that through exercise you would neat to eat back enough calories to bring yourself up to 1200 calories.
1500
-1500
=0
+320 Exercise
= 1180 NET (1500 - 320 = 1180)
(Eat 20 more calories to bring it back to 1200)
Perfect thank you i think i was eating back those calories. i didnt know. now i will definitely change that0 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Half a tablespoon of peanut butter isn't 12 calories... i hope you are not actually logging that as 12.. lol
i scanned the barcode of the powdered peanut butther pb2 which equaled 2tbsp (12gm) i only used 1/2 serving and thats what fitness app calculated.
We're really not trying to put you down here, @punkinjdm6. We've just all been around and faced your struggle and REPEATEDLY, this is the #1 mistake MFP users make. When you tighten up your logging (ie weighing your food and logging by weight), you see results.
In the beginning, if you're really overweight (I was 140 lbs overweight), you can kind of fudge it and get away with it. The closer you are to your goal weight, the less room for error there is.
Please trust us. This WILL help you. You just have to believe in the process.
No i dont feel this way about what your telling me everyone is being helpful but i hellyeaitskriss is just telling me how wrong i am.
not you. im understand everyone else.
We all have our off days, when we get frustrated on the forums. I've been guilty of coming off too harshly myself.
Another helpful hint is to utilize the USDA nutritional info. If you're seeing too many entries for something with very different calories, see what the USDA has to say about it (just google it!) and pick the entry closest to what USDA says. That's great for individual ingredients like chicken, tomatoes, vegetables, other proteins, honey, milk (based on fatness), etc.
Feel free to message me in the future if you have any questions. For now, just get a food scale and weigh everything you can, including peanut butters, pasta, protein, yogurt, cheese, everything that's prepackaged, etc.3 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »This post here is without a doubt one of the most helpful posts for this kind of problem:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
Second this. It's an extremely helpful post.3 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Also your response to her response doesn't make sense to what she said.. you are claiming to use cups for liquids and a scale for meats, but we are telling you that your entries are generic and do not give you the actual calories you are consuming for what you are logging
OK so the thread is to help me better understand this fitness life that obviously people like you might have been doing this longer than me. shoot me I'm a rookie. I also said many failed attempts so yes i realize something im doing is wrong.
If this fitness app is suppose to be so helpful but apparently isnt then what am i suppose to believe on my own.
If i type in chicken breast grilled and it says 150gm = 200 calories (example)
so i weigh out 150 gm of a dam chicken breast because im lead to believe this is the best or closest thing for me to think is correct.
but your telling me its not correct. then im sorry.
I scan a bar-code tells me 1 cup = 70 calories so i measure a cup of milk. in a glass measuring cup that says this line is 1 cup
So please help me not judge me on what is the best possible way to measure and log. because just telling me im doing it wrong doesnt help me either.
I thought the things i picked where correct or as close to what im eating
Hey, try taking a deep breath. Everyone here is trying to help you. Virtually everyone here (including me) has made mistakes in logging before. That's how we're able to see this stuff -- because they are mistakes that we have made too.
Yes, there are incorrect database entries in the database. Virtually everything in there was created by other users. Some of them are great and some of them are awful, just like everything created by a big group of people with little oversight. So if you're eating something a lot, you will want to double-check the entry for accuracy. And if it's a generic/homemade entry for something like "tuna salad" or "egg salad sandwich" or "banana cream pie - homemade" it probably should be avoided completely.
For your logging to be accurate, you don't just need accurate entries, you also need to understand how much you're actually eating. That's where the food scale comes in. So that you don't have to guess or use things like "1 banana" (because bananas of different sizes can have very different calorie counts).
Nobody is judging you, we're trying to provide the help that you asked for in your first post. We're also giving you specific examples of what could be better. Nobody is just saying "You're wrong" and leaving it at that.
Thank you.
can i ask a question. in the sense of the banana. i weight the banana in oz. it tells it is an 6 oz banana
and the myfitnessapp says 1 banana 6 oz = (random number)
so this is or is not correct?
I want to use the banana because it is an item with no bar- code.
When I eat a banana, I log the weight in ounces so when I look back at it later I can see the serving size was 5 ounces or 8 ounces or whatever. When I look at your diary recently, I see this: "Market - Banana, 1 banana." No indication of how much it was. So when you are logging your fruit, find an entry that contains information for grams or ounces and log it by that instead of just "1 banana."
Whenever possible you don't want to log the random number, you want to figure out how much banana you're actually eating and log that. Same for things like ground beef or rice or peanut butter or whatever you decide to eat.3 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Half a tablespoon of peanut butter isn't 12 calories... i hope you are not actually logging that as 12.. lol
i scanned the barcode of the powdered peanut butther pb2 which equaled 2tbsp (12gm) i only used 1/2 serving and thats what fitness app calculated.
We're really not trying to put you down here, @punkinjdm6. We've just all been around and faced your struggle and REPEATEDLY, this is the #1 mistake MFP users make. When you tighten up your logging (ie weighing your food and logging by weight), you see results.
In the beginning, if you're really overweight (I was 140 lbs overweight), you can kind of fudge it and get away with it. The closer you are to your goal weight, the less room for error there is.
Please trust us. This WILL help you. You just have to believe in the process.
No i dont feel this way about what your telling me everyone is being helpful but i hellyeaitskriss is just telling me how wrong i am.
not you. im understand everyone else.
We all have our off days, when we get frustrated on the forums. I've been guilty of coming off too harshly myself.
Another helpful hint is to utilize the USDA nutritional info. If you're seeing too many entries for something with very different calories, see what the USDA has to say about it (just google it!) and pick the entry closest to what USDA says. That's great for individual ingredients like chicken, tomatoes, vegetables, other proteins, honey, milk (based on fatness), etc.
Feel free to message me in the future if you have any questions. For now, just get a food scale and weigh everything you can, including peanut butters, pasta, protein, yogurt, cheese, everything that's prepackaged, etc.
I dont really think im having an off day or being harsh.
I am naturally a very straight forward person. However nothing i said was harsh.4 -
I use that PB2 stuff. It's low calorie, high protein peanut butter powder, and if OP weighs servings by the gram it will be accurate, however 1tbsp (the way I would measure a tablespoon) of it is more like 20-2.5 servings. So it that's what'[s being followed it won't be accurate.1
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littledainty wrote: »I use that PB2 stuff. It's low calorie, high protein peanut butter powder, and if OP weighs servings by the gram it will be accurate, however 1tbsp (the way I would measure a tablespoon) of it is more like 20-2.5 servings. So it that's what'[s being followed it won't be accurate.
This is my experience with PB2 as well -- if I was using a measuring spoon to measure it, I would be eating a lot more than I was logging. I've found it to be generally true for powdery foods, including protein powder (and that can make a huge difference in calories if you're eating it a lot or higher calorie versions).2 -
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HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »punkinjdm6 wrote: »punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Half a tablespoon of peanut butter isn't 12 calories... i hope you are not actually logging that as 12.. lol
i scanned the barcode of the powdered peanut butther pb2 which equaled 2tbsp (12gm) i only used 1/2 serving and thats what fitness app calculated.
We're really not trying to put you down here, @punkinjdm6. We've just all been around and faced your struggle and REPEATEDLY, this is the #1 mistake MFP users make. When you tighten up your logging (ie weighing your food and logging by weight), you see results.
In the beginning, if you're really overweight (I was 140 lbs overweight), you can kind of fudge it and get away with it. The closer you are to your goal weight, the less room for error there is.
Please trust us. This WILL help you. You just have to believe in the process.
No i dont feel this way about what your telling me everyone is being helpful but i hellyeaitskriss is just telling me how wrong i am.
not you. im understand everyone else.
We all have our off days, when we get frustrated on the forums. I've been guilty of coming off too harshly myself.
Another helpful hint is to utilize the USDA nutritional info. If you're seeing too many entries for something with very different calories, see what the USDA has to say about it (just google it!) and pick the entry closest to what USDA says. That's great for individual ingredients like chicken, tomatoes, vegetables, other proteins, honey, milk (based on fatness), etc.
Feel free to message me in the future if you have any questions. For now, just get a food scale and weigh everything you can, including peanut butters, pasta, protein, yogurt, cheese, everything that's prepackaged, etc.
I dont really think im having an off day or being harsh.
I am naturally a very straight forward person. However nothing i said was harsh.
I didn't think so either but OP did and I was trying to pacify the situation and get back on topic.3 -
However, as i was saying.. I was just waiting for confirmation so that i could share this link
https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
And show them how to use it.3 -
OP this site is your best calorie database.
If you were to eat chicken for dinner lets say, you would weigh the chicken raw first.
So in the search database type in "Boneless skinless chicken breast, Raw" and an entry option will come up, Select it.
This will bring you to a screen with all kinds of information on raw chicken.
the first thing you can do is edit the amounts to what you are eating. Either in grams or OZ, your choice
If i was eating 250g of chicken, i would type that in and press enter so it changes the nutritional values below.
Then i would use the information in the column below what i changed, since i used grams.
After that, i would go to MFP and use their database and type in
"USDA boneless skinless chicken breast raw"
And we find the entry in the database that gives us a correct match.
The reason why i selected the second entry at 100g = 120 calories is because..
When we were selecting a gram weight on the USDA search engine up above..
You will notice that before i changed the value to 250g the calorie amount said "120 calories for 100g"
Thats how i know to select that entry and not the one above it that says 198 calories.
So.. then.. when we change the amount to 2.5 and select "nutritional information"
a new window pops up
It will give us all the info for 250g of chicken.. we can then compare it to the data on the USDA search we did.. MFP rounds up/down but it is as close as possible for all nutrutional information listed so we can select that database entry and use it for our food logs.
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