Carb "Addiction"
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ilikeitalatte wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »Eat through the cravings with no/low carb foods - meat, eggs and the like are good. Give yourself a few weeks to adjust and not worry about calories. Once you get over the hurdle of the first few weeks your appetite/cravings will calm down and you should be good to go.
After that point, if you experience carb cravings or feel unreasonably cold those are signs you're not eating enough calories even if you don't feel particularly hungry. Good luck and if you haven't yet, join the Low Carbers Daily group - lots of info to be found there.
The OP would do this to what end? If there is not metabolic advantage, it is not their preferred was to eat and there is not health condition that requires it, what is the gain to be had?
If you believe there is a metabolic advantage, please post the peer reviewed studies that indicate it.
So, you don't think that a ketogenic diet (not just "low carb") has any metabolic advange over just a well-balanced, carby diet?
There has not been a single study that I've seen where calories and protein were held constant that show a metabolic advantage. There can be a useful application for those with insulin resistance and if one can't control carb cravings then possibly. But for fat loss? No.
And I have looked and debated this topic for over 5 years. If you have something, please share it.
PS: I see the pro keto crowd knows where the woo button is. Do they know where the scientific studies are??
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There has not been a single study that I've seen where calories and protein were held constant that show a metabolic advantage. And I have looked and debated this topic for over 5 years. If you have something, please share it.
PS: I see the pro keto crowd knows where the woo button is. Do they know where the scientific studies are??
Love it.
You may want to trademark this line, I think it's going to get used a lot.4 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »ilikeitalatte wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »Eat through the cravings with no/low carb foods - meat, eggs and the like are good. Give yourself a few weeks to adjust and not worry about calories. Once you get over the hurdle of the first few weeks your appetite/cravings will calm down and you should be good to go.
After that point, if you experience carb cravings or feel unreasonably cold those are signs you're not eating enough calories even if you don't feel particularly hungry. Good luck and if you haven't yet, join the Low Carbers Daily group - lots of info to be found there.
The OP would do this to what end? If there is not metabolic advantage, it is not their preferred was to eat and there is not health condition that requires it, what is the gain to be had?
If you believe there is a metabolic advantage, please post the peer reviewed studies that indicate it.
So, you don't think that a ketogenic diet (not just "low carb") has any metabolic advange over just a well-balanced, carby diet?
There has not been a single study that I've seen where calories and protein were held constant that show a metabolic advantage. There can be a useful application for those with insulin resistance and if one can't control carb cravings then possibly. But for fat loss? No.
And I have looked and debated this topic for over 5 years. If you have something, please share it.
PS: I see the pro keto crowd knows where the woo button is. Do they know where the scientific studies are??
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ilikeitalatte wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »Eat through the cravings with no/low carb foods - meat, eggs and the like are good. Give yourself a few weeks to adjust and not worry about calories. Once you get over the hurdle of the first few weeks your appetite/cravings will calm down and you should be good to go.
After that point, if you experience carb cravings or feel unreasonably cold those are signs you're not eating enough calories even if you don't feel particularly hungry. Good luck and if you haven't yet, join the Low Carbers Daily group - lots of info to be found there.
The OP would do this to what end? If there is not metabolic advantage, it is not their preferred was to eat and there is not health condition that requires it, what is the gain to be had?
If you believe there is a metabolic advantage, please post the peer reviewed studies that indicate it.
So, you don't think that a ketogenic diet (not just "low carb") has any metabolic advange over just a well-balanced, carby diet?
There has not been a single study that I've seen where calories and protein were held constant that show a metabolic advantage. There can be a useful application for those with insulin resistance and if one can't control carb cravings then possibly. But for fat loss? No.
And I have looked and debated this topic for over 5 years. If you have something, please share it.
PS: I see the pro keto crowd knows where the woo button is. Do they know where the scientific studies are??
Well said, agree with above. Maybe these scientific studies will help them, for starters:
Research review: No metabolic advantage to a ketogenic diet:
https://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/ketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-have-no-metabolic-advantage-over-nonketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-research-review.html
Review of the Hall Study - no metabolic advantage to a ketogenic diet, fat loss greater on non-keto diet:
https://shreddedbyscience.com/ketogenic-diets-actually-work-study-review/
Study: No metabolic advantage, protein intake a more important factor than carb intake:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22935440/
[ETA:] Here's a meta-analysis which compared weight loss between low and high carbohydrate diets in 7,286 individuals and found no significant difference between the diets in weight lost over 12 months: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1900510?utm_source=Silverchair Information Systems&utm_medium=email
The researchers concluded that: “significant weight loss was observed with any low-carbohydrate or low-fat diet. Weight loss differences between individual named diets were small. This supports the practice of recommending any diet that a patient will adhere to in order to lose weight.”
Disclosure: The link to the study above came from a research review which debunks Fung's pseudoscientific drivel. It can be found here: https://myoleanfitness.com/evidence-caloric-restriction/5 -
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