Cool Sculpting, anyone?
snarlingcoyote
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Has anyone done cool sculpting? I want to lose the loose stuff under my chin and the little belly I've had since I was 4. I'm thinking of socking some money away for it, but then maybe not. . .
Honestly, even if I save enough to do it, I will probably grab the money and have an extra hiking trip, but. . .I'm hearing good things about it, so I'm thinking about it. It isn't weight loss, I'm told, but it makes trouble spots look nicer by removing fat cells.
Honestly, even if I save enough to do it, I will probably grab the money and have an extra hiking trip, but. . .I'm hearing good things about it, so I'm thinking about it. It isn't weight loss, I'm told, but it makes trouble spots look nicer by removing fat cells.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4079633/
Cryolipolysis is safe for all skin types, with no reported pigmentary changes, and is safe for repeated application.18 The best candidates are those within their ideal weight range and those who engage in regular exercise, eat a healthy diet, have noticeable fat bulges on the trunk, are realistic in their expectations, and are willing to maintain the results of cryolipolysis with a healthy, active lifestyle. However, there is a lack of substantial research, with current knowledge based only on uncontrolled case studies and retrospective practice reviews. No head-to-head studies evaluating noninvasive body contouring devices have been conducted as yet. More randomized, controlled, double-blind studies with a sufficient number of subjects and objective measurements with high reproducibility are needed to evaluate the short-term and long-term efficacy and side effects of cryolipolysis. Further research should be directed towards identifying more ideal settings and maintenance programs.7 -
How can it "remove fat cells"? That does not line up with science. Save your money. It doesn't work.8
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Presumably, whoever woo'd the article didn't read it, basically says it was horrendously uncomfortable and didn't do anything long term.11
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If you're going to go that far, you may as well just have lipo and actually get the fat removed.10
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I've been thinking about it -- I'm relatively lean, and the weight is coming off everywhere *but* my torso. But the reviews I've read make it sound like it won't do the results that I want, so likely I'm not actually going to do it.1
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quiksylver296 wrote: »How can it "remove fat cells"? That does not line up with science. Save your money. It doesn't work.
By killing them. The procedure is somewhere between moderately uncomfortable and outright painful, but unlike Lipo it's non-invasive.
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It's a real thing that works, but the results, based on what I've read there on that internet, seem sketchy. It's not something I would have done.4
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I walk to work and I live in Ontario, does that count? lol13
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lol do not waste your time and moneeee1
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Go to a plastic surgeons office who does cool sculpting... talk to them get references and the facts. in fact, maybe talk to three different EXPERTS.....and don't take advice from a bunch of dieters who think we know everything from googling.16
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elisa123gal wrote: »Go to a plastic surgeons office who does cool sculpting... talk to them get references and the facts. in fact, maybe talk to three different EXPERTS.....and don't take advice from a bunch of dieters who think we know everything from googling.
Yup -- any plastic surgeon who is reputable will do a free consultation.
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mrsnattybulking wrote: »I walk to work and I live in Ontario, does that count? lol
It might. It also explains why I have ab definition any time I get even close to 225 lbs, because most of my BF is visceral. Unfortunately that's not a really healthy body shape even though I do like having an 8 pack kegerator.
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I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.3
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cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
It's really only indicated for someone who just has a small stubborn area of fat that losing weight hasn't eliminated. That's the only way I've seen it advertised. And OP specifically said they were considering it for exactly that.
OP, as far as your neck area, I've seen several relatively non-invasive procedures advertised recently for that area. If it bothers you, scheduling a consultation with a reputable plastic surgeon can't hurt!4 -
cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.24 -
I have wondered about this myself... I know nothing about it, always wondering, if like seaweed wraps, it was temporary.
As far as, it being a replacement for nutrition or exercise.... snarlingcoyote never said that it was = )2 -
collectingblues wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »Go to a plastic surgeons office who does cool sculpting... talk to them get references and the facts. in fact, maybe talk to three different EXPERTS.....and don't take advice from a bunch of dieters who think we know everything from googling.
Yup -- any plastic surgeon who is reputable will do a free consultation.
Actually most of them charge a consult fee but if you have something done with them they will apply it towards the procedure.0 -
And unfortunately, just like lipo, the fat can (and will) come back without dietary modification and activity. Sounds awful (from the article). I'd avoid.1
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melissa6771 wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »Go to a plastic surgeons office who does cool sculpting... talk to them get references and the facts. in fact, maybe talk to three different EXPERTS.....and don't take advice from a bunch of dieters who think we know everything from googling.
Yup -- any plastic surgeon who is reputable will do a free consultation.
Actually most of them charge a consult fee but if you have something done with them they will apply it towards the procedure.
Ah, that makes sense.0 -
collectingblues wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.
if you are doing all that your body could be under stress and your cortisol levels could be raised resulting in the belly fat that wont go away.too much exercise is not good either.1550 calories doesnt seem like its enough calories for all that exercise. are you are very short person? not asking to offend you as 1500 calories seems like the very low calories for all that exercising.how many hrs a day are you doing those exercises?4 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.
if you are doing all that your body could be under stress and your cortisol levels could be raised resulting in the belly fat that wont go away.too much exercise is not good either.1550 calories doesnt seem like its enough calories for all that exercise. are you are very short person? not asking to offend you as 1500 calories seems like the very low calories for all that exercising.how many hrs a day are you doing those exercises?
Do you think I care *why* it's there at this point? No. I want it gone.
My grandfather was built this way, my mother is built this way, my uncle, etc. Sure, cortisol might play a role, but I'm fighting generations of genetics from individuals who are classic apples. Do you seriously think that generations of my family all had elevated cortisol from stress?
Unless someone can show me with lab testing that my cortisol is elevated, I have no concrete evidence to show what you claim "could" be the driver.
I've had it. I'm exhausted, and I'm frustrated, and as I said above, if I can throw money at the problem and make it gone, that's what I'm going to do. And you'll note how I didn't ask for an opinion from anyone.10 -
collectingblues wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.
if you are doing all that your body could be under stress and your cortisol levels could be raised resulting in the belly fat that wont go away.too much exercise is not good either.1550 calories doesnt seem like its enough calories for all that exercise. are you are very short person? not asking to offend you as 1500 calories seems like the very low calories for all that exercising.how many hrs a day are you doing those exercises?
Do you think I care *why* it's there at this point? No. I want it gone.
It's genetics. My grandfather was built this way, my mother is built this way, my uncle, etc. Sure, cortisol might play a role, but I'm fighting generations of individuals who are classic apples.
I'm done. I've been doing all I can do, and I've tried refeeds, and I'm seeing progress literally everywhere else.
I've had it. I'm exhausted, and I'm frustrated, and as I said above, if I can throw money at the problem and make it gone, that's what I'm going to do. And you'll note how I didn't ask for your opinion.
first of all you are on a public forum asking about it, so whether you directly asked for my opinion or not. I posted my reply as to what I thought it could be. you want to hear what you want to hear while being abrasive about it. you do what you want. if you want to waste your money so be it.But if you dont want people replying to your post them maybe you shouldnt post.10 -
I know people who have had LIPOSUCTION and have had unwanted fat show up in bad places. Fat forearms after lipo on the tummy and lower back. The fat goes someplace when it comes back on. It is coming bc you learn nothing from surgical fat loss procedures.
How about you just work for it, it feels sooooooo much better if you work for it. It teaches you PATIENCE, DISCIPLINE and how to FINISH things.
I am by no means against plastic surgery for things you cannot change on your own, Want a nose job, get it, want a boob job get em, lipo, cool sculpting, butt jobs, calf jobs, pec jobs WORK FOR IT.
that fat will show up someplace else bc nothing was learned. you don't want fat forearms.9 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.
if you are doing all that your body could be under stress and your cortisol levels could be raised resulting in the belly fat that wont go away.too much exercise is not good either.1550 calories doesnt seem like its enough calories for all that exercise. are you are very short person? not asking to offend you as 1500 calories seems like the very low calories for all that exercising.how many hrs a day are you doing those exercises?
Do you think I care *why* it's there at this point? No. I want it gone.
It's genetics. My grandfather was built this way, my mother is built this way, my uncle, etc. Sure, cortisol might play a role, but I'm fighting generations of individuals who are classic apples.
I'm done. I've been doing all I can do, and I've tried refeeds, and I'm seeing progress literally everywhere else.
I've had it. I'm exhausted, and I'm frustrated, and as I said above, if I can throw money at the problem and make it gone, that's what I'm going to do. And you'll note how I didn't ask for your opinion.
first of all you are on a public forum asking about it, so whether you directly asked for my opinion or not. I posted my reply as to what I thought it could be. you want to hear what you want to hear while being abrasive about it. you do what you want. if you want to waste your money so be it.But if you dont want people replying to your post them maybe you shouldnt post.
I was responding to someone who claimed that it was a quick fix. I *didn't* ask about it.3 -
I actually only care about my fat.
I have seen my six pack several times.
have fun with cool sculpting2 -
sarahlifts wrote: »I know people who have had LIPOSUCTION and have had unwanted fat show up in bad places. Fat forearms after lipo on the tummy and lower back. The fat goes someplace when it comes back on. It is coming bc you learn nothing from surgical fat loss procedures.
How about you just work for it, it feels sooooooo much better if you work for it. It teaches you PATIENCE, DISCIPLINE and how to FINISH things.
I am by no means against plastic surgery for things you cannot change on your own, Want a nose job, get it, want a boob job get em, lipo, cool sculpting, butt jobs, calf jobs, pec jobs WORK FOR IT.
that fat will show up someplace else bc nothing was learned. you don't want fat forearms.
This shows an utter lack of understanding of how body fat works.9 -
sarahlifts wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »I've been thinking about it -- I'm relatively lean, and the weight is coming off everywhere *but* my torso. But the reviews I've read make it sound like it won't do the results that I want, so likely I'm not actually going to do it.
Please post photo of relatively lean person. doesn't have to be you. Most ppl who think they are just 5-10 lbs off abs aren't.
See previous post. You'll note that unlike the OP, I'm *not* asking for opinions.1 -
You said "loose stuff under my chin"-could it be loose skin not fat?1
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stanmann571 wrote: »sarahlifts wrote: »I know people who have had LIPOSUCTION and have had unwanted fat show up in bad places. Fat forearms after lipo on the tummy and lower back. The fat goes someplace when it comes back on. It is coming bc you learn nothing from surgical fat loss procedures.
How about you just work for it, it feels sooooooo much better if you work for it. It teaches you PATIENCE, DISCIPLINE and how to FINISH things.
I am by no means against plastic surgery for things you cannot change on your own, Want a nose job, get it, want a boob job get em, lipo, cool sculpting, butt jobs, calf jobs, pec jobs WORK FOR IT.
that fat will show up someplace else bc nothing was learned. you don't want fat forearms.
This shows an utter lack of understanding of how body fat works.
It's always just easier to blame fat lazy people than to actually understand science.
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