Cool Sculpting, anyone?
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collectingblues wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.
if you are doing all that your body could be under stress and your cortisol levels could be raised resulting in the belly fat that wont go away.too much exercise is not good either.1550 calories doesnt seem like its enough calories for all that exercise. are you are very short person? not asking to offend you as 1500 calories seems like the very low calories for all that exercising.how many hrs a day are you doing those exercises?4 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.
if you are doing all that your body could be under stress and your cortisol levels could be raised resulting in the belly fat that wont go away.too much exercise is not good either.1550 calories doesnt seem like its enough calories for all that exercise. are you are very short person? not asking to offend you as 1500 calories seems like the very low calories for all that exercising.how many hrs a day are you doing those exercises?
Do you think I care *why* it's there at this point? No. I want it gone.
My grandfather was built this way, my mother is built this way, my uncle, etc. Sure, cortisol might play a role, but I'm fighting generations of genetics from individuals who are classic apples. Do you seriously think that generations of my family all had elevated cortisol from stress?
Unless someone can show me with lab testing that my cortisol is elevated, I have no concrete evidence to show what you claim "could" be the driver.
I've had it. I'm exhausted, and I'm frustrated, and as I said above, if I can throw money at the problem and make it gone, that's what I'm going to do. And you'll note how I didn't ask for an opinion from anyone.10 -
collectingblues wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.
if you are doing all that your body could be under stress and your cortisol levels could be raised resulting in the belly fat that wont go away.too much exercise is not good either.1550 calories doesnt seem like its enough calories for all that exercise. are you are very short person? not asking to offend you as 1500 calories seems like the very low calories for all that exercising.how many hrs a day are you doing those exercises?
Do you think I care *why* it's there at this point? No. I want it gone.
It's genetics. My grandfather was built this way, my mother is built this way, my uncle, etc. Sure, cortisol might play a role, but I'm fighting generations of individuals who are classic apples.
I'm done. I've been doing all I can do, and I've tried refeeds, and I'm seeing progress literally everywhere else.
I've had it. I'm exhausted, and I'm frustrated, and as I said above, if I can throw money at the problem and make it gone, that's what I'm going to do. And you'll note how I didn't ask for your opinion.
first of all you are on a public forum asking about it, so whether you directly asked for my opinion or not. I posted my reply as to what I thought it could be. you want to hear what you want to hear while being abrasive about it. you do what you want. if you want to waste your money so be it.But if you dont want people replying to your post them maybe you shouldnt post.10 -
I know people who have had LIPOSUCTION and have had unwanted fat show up in bad places. Fat forearms after lipo on the tummy and lower back. The fat goes someplace when it comes back on. It is coming bc you learn nothing from surgical fat loss procedures.
How about you just work for it, it feels sooooooo much better if you work for it. It teaches you PATIENCE, DISCIPLINE and how to FINISH things.
I am by no means against plastic surgery for things you cannot change on your own, Want a nose job, get it, want a boob job get em, lipo, cool sculpting, butt jobs, calf jobs, pec jobs WORK FOR IT.
that fat will show up someplace else bc nothing was learned. you don't want fat forearms.9 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.
if you are doing all that your body could be under stress and your cortisol levels could be raised resulting in the belly fat that wont go away.too much exercise is not good either.1550 calories doesnt seem like its enough calories for all that exercise. are you are very short person? not asking to offend you as 1500 calories seems like the very low calories for all that exercising.how many hrs a day are you doing those exercises?
Do you think I care *why* it's there at this point? No. I want it gone.
It's genetics. My grandfather was built this way, my mother is built this way, my uncle, etc. Sure, cortisol might play a role, but I'm fighting generations of individuals who are classic apples.
I'm done. I've been doing all I can do, and I've tried refeeds, and I'm seeing progress literally everywhere else.
I've had it. I'm exhausted, and I'm frustrated, and as I said above, if I can throw money at the problem and make it gone, that's what I'm going to do. And you'll note how I didn't ask for your opinion.
first of all you are on a public forum asking about it, so whether you directly asked for my opinion or not. I posted my reply as to what I thought it could be. you want to hear what you want to hear while being abrasive about it. you do what you want. if you want to waste your money so be it.But if you dont want people replying to your post them maybe you shouldnt post.
I was responding to someone who claimed that it was a quick fix. I *didn't* ask about it.3 -
I actually only care about my fat.
I have seen my six pack several times.
have fun with cool sculpting2 -
sarahlifts wrote: »I know people who have had LIPOSUCTION and have had unwanted fat show up in bad places. Fat forearms after lipo on the tummy and lower back. The fat goes someplace when it comes back on. It is coming bc you learn nothing from surgical fat loss procedures.
How about you just work for it, it feels sooooooo much better if you work for it. It teaches you PATIENCE, DISCIPLINE and how to FINISH things.
I am by no means against plastic surgery for things you cannot change on your own, Want a nose job, get it, want a boob job get em, lipo, cool sculpting, butt jobs, calf jobs, pec jobs WORK FOR IT.
that fat will show up someplace else bc nothing was learned. you don't want fat forearms.
This shows an utter lack of understanding of how body fat works.9 -
sarahlifts wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »I've been thinking about it -- I'm relatively lean, and the weight is coming off everywhere *but* my torso. But the reviews I've read make it sound like it won't do the results that I want, so likely I'm not actually going to do it.
Please post photo of relatively lean person. doesn't have to be you. Most ppl who think they are just 5-10 lbs off abs aren't.
See previous post. You'll note that unlike the OP, I'm *not* asking for opinions.1 -
You said "loose stuff under my chin"-could it be loose skin not fat?1
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stanmann571 wrote: »sarahlifts wrote: »I know people who have had LIPOSUCTION and have had unwanted fat show up in bad places. Fat forearms after lipo on the tummy and lower back. The fat goes someplace when it comes back on. It is coming bc you learn nothing from surgical fat loss procedures.
How about you just work for it, it feels sooooooo much better if you work for it. It teaches you PATIENCE, DISCIPLINE and how to FINISH things.
I am by no means against plastic surgery for things you cannot change on your own, Want a nose job, get it, want a boob job get em, lipo, cool sculpting, butt jobs, calf jobs, pec jobs WORK FOR IT.
that fat will show up someplace else bc nothing was learned. you don't want fat forearms.
This shows an utter lack of understanding of how body fat works.
It's always just easier to blame fat lazy people than to actually understand science.
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This thread is so odd. No one asked if Cool Sculpting is a good way to lose weight. They asked if it was a good way to get rid of stubborn fat deposits. It is not uncommon for people to lose weight to the point where they are really skinny and still have a bit of a poof somewhere that won't budge. Suggesting that it's not effective for that is one thing, suggesting that someone who is considering it isn't willing to put in the work is rude.16
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work for it.7
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collectingblues wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »sarahlifts wrote: »I know people who have had LIPOSUCTION and have had unwanted fat show up in bad places. Fat forearms after lipo on the tummy and lower back. The fat goes someplace when it comes back on. It is coming bc you learn nothing from surgical fat loss procedures.
How about you just work for it, it feels sooooooo much better if you work for it. It teaches you PATIENCE, DISCIPLINE and how to FINISH things.
I am by no means against plastic surgery for things you cannot change on your own, Want a nose job, get it, want a boob job get em, lipo, cool sculpting, butt jobs, calf jobs, pec jobs WORK FOR IT.
that fat will show up someplace else bc nothing was learned. you don't want fat forearms.
This shows an utter lack of understanding of how body fat works.
It's always just easier to blame fat lazy people than to actually understand science.
Indeed.
Background.
The body doesn't create new fat cells or destroy old ones past the end of puberty(for most people between age 18 and 25). Thus the fat you have is the fat you're going to have. That being said fat cells are remarkably elastic and can grow/shrink to contain the requisite energy reserves you have.
SO yes, If you get lipo or cool sculpt and subsequently have an energy imbalance you'll get fat in different places... USUALLY visceral(which is really unhealthy)
OTOH, if you've been in maintenance for 6-12 months and are still struggling with appearance issues, considering one of these procedures is certainly a reasonable plan.8 -
sarahlifts wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »I don't know. It seems like too much of a fast and easy solution. So get cool-sculpted, but does the person change anything about their nutrition? Who knows... It's certainly not a remedy for weight loss, nor a prevention for future weight gain, it targets and kills only a fraction of the fat in the treated area. I wouldn't bother.
Of course it isn't. And no one is claiming that it is a remedy, or a prevention of future gain. Some of us just aren't getting the desired results by doing everything by the "cosmetic work bad! bad person!" approach. Because genetics can be unkind, and I can't go back in history and get a different set of ancestors.
I eat ~1550 calories (on average) a day, and work out between 5-7 days a week (and no, not just aimless walking -- we're talking half marathon training + swimming + spin + barre + moderate strength training). I don't eat back exercise calories because I use TDEE instead. I weigh everything. Literally. I track to the gram. My records are meticulous, and I cross check everything with the USDA database.
And frankly? I'm exhausted and frustrated with banging my head into the wall trying to fix my genetic fat distribution.
But by all means, please tell me about how I'm not going to change or learn anything about nutrition or fitness.
Maybe you wouldn't bother. But if throwing money at a problem takes a level of body-self-hatred off, and means that I can actually finally proportion out my waist (because quite literally, I've shed inches off my arms, hips, bust, and thighs, and not seen the same on my waist), then I'm going to do it.
I gave you a hug.
My advise if you take it or not, us up to you, cut out all the extra cardio and barre and and get on a proper lifting program, It will change your body and push you to your true genetic potential. 4-5 days a week training.
Yup. That'll totally help with my half marathon training.
I *like* barre and swimming. I can't fit everything in the week that I like, so why should I cut things that I like just because someone on the internet who doesn't have a basic grasp of anatomy and physiology speculates that maybe I can fight genetics?4 -
cool sculpt away.
my response to this whole quick fix mess, OK5 -
sarahlifts wrote: »explain how body fat works. I'll wait.
and yes dear up there you are too lazy and too impatient to work for it.
HUH??
Oh, and for the first part, just scroll up.
And lazy and impatient. That's hysterical. The profile photo took 3 years of work to get right.7 -
I've thought about it occasionally and read reviews for both coolsculpting and sculpsure (which is a heat version, as opposed to the cold version). The overall response seems to be that the results aren't super obvious. Also, it takes about 3 months after the treatment (which I've heard ranges from fairly uncomfortable to downright painful) to actually see any kind of change and then it's not a big change. Most reviews I've seen seem to indicate that between the two, sculpsure might be a better choice, but neither gave great results. That being said, if even a little change would give you confidence and help you attain your goals, it's worth looking into. See if you can find reviews of local places and at the very least check out the locations.2
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Fascinating how someone who claims in their profile to not be here for body-shaming and diet-shaming seems totally cool with effort-shaming.
If someone has the money for it, I don't see any difference between wearing Spanx and having a little "work" done. The danger is when people see surgery as a replacement for diet and exercise. I don't see any reason why it can't be responsibly used as an addition to diet and exercise. There are plenty of people who decide they need skin removal surgery, a breast lift, or other surgical procedure after years of diet and exercise. Yeah, maybe more years of hard work and patience would continue to improve those conditions too, but life is short and full of cost/benefit decisions. <shrug>7 -
Fascinating how someone who claims in their profile to not be here for body-shaming and diet-shaming seems totally cool with effort-shaming.
If someone has the money for it, I don't see any difference between wearing Spanx and having a little "work" done. The danger is when people see surgery as a replacement for diet and exercise. I don't see any reason why it can't be responsibly used as an addition to diet and exercise. There are plenty of people who decide they need skin removal surgery, a breast lift, or other surgical procedure after years of diet and exercise. Yeah, maybe more years of hard work and patience would continue to improve those conditions too, but life is short and full of cost/benefit decisions. <shrug>
And then edits the posts to make it seem like she never said anything.
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I didn’t read all the comments, but my office performs cool sculpting. You are a perfect candidate. It is safe and very effective for targeted fat reduction. It will not make a fat person thin, but it will decrease a stubborn roll by 1/4 to 1/5.3
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