Is eating this bad 1 week in?
mikefromhaddonfield
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I started a diet after the sb. Doing great. Going to the store for meal prep tomorrow. Would it be bad to mix turkey meat, low sodium taco seasoning, black beans, corn and brown rice? Should I use quinoa instead. Thanks in advance.
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Nothing wrong with that - calories are king for losing weight7
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If it meets your calorie goals and you enjoy it go for it. There is nothing wrong with rice .... or quinoa.4
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Sounds good.1
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Do you think you’d enjoy eating it?0
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Yes. If I could use taco shells. Lol0
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Go for it, you can eat anything you want just stay in your calorie goal.0
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Is it a joke question? I'm confused.8
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I started a diet after the sb. Doing great. Going to the store for meal prep tomorrow. Would it be bad to mix turkey meat, low sodium taco seasoning, black beans, corn and brown rice? Should I use quinoa instead. Thanks in advance.
You've just described a common meal for me when I'm losing weight, except I use white rice and usually add avocado or sour cream and some salsa. Maybe some frozen sliced bell peppers if I have 'em.7 -
What do you think is wrong with it?4
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Rice and seasoning. Too early in diet process. I ate omelette, sardines, cucumber salad, almonds and berry smoothies since Monday and have went from 225-216lbs. I think that’s progress. I don’t want rice and salt to mess this up. It’s hard enough not drinking wine and beer.11
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Rice and seasoning. Too early in diet process. I ate omelette, sardines, cucumber salad, almonds and berry smoothies since Monday and have went from 225-216lbs. I think that’s progress. I don’t want rice and salt to mess this up. It’s hard enough not drinking wine and beer.
The vast majority of what you lost is water weight. Yes, you may gain some of that back from eating rice (carbs) and seasoning (sodium), but water weight fluctuates 24/7. Weight loss isn't linear.
And if you want wine/beer, see if you can have a drink or two in moderation within your calories.3 -
Rice and seasoning. Too early in diet process. I ate omelette, sardines, cucumber salad, almonds and berry smoothies since Monday and have went from 225-216lbs. I think that’s progress. I don’t want rice and salt to mess this up. It’s hard enough not drinking wine and beer.
Are you doing a low-carb diet deliberately or something? I am, so I wouldn’t eat rice after a week or a month for that matter, but low-carb isn’t the only way to lose weight. What you need to do is burn more energy than you consume. The only thing that really matters is finding a menu that you enjoy and feel satisfied on without eating as much of it as your body really wants day after day.6 -
Why would rice and salt mess up your diet?
You lose weight by eating the right amount of calories. Obviously you want to eat nutritious food for your health, but you can eat whatever you want as long as your calories line up at the end of the day.
Over restriction over the long term will just make it more likely you'll hit the wall. Make sure you fit in some foods you love. Emotional health matters too! Good luck4 -
Why wouldn't eating this week in be bad?
Its up to you if want to substitute, I couldn't do turkey and would use white rice. But its what fits your calorie goals and moreover your individual taste, textures and flavors in your food.2 -
FlyingMolly wrote: »Rice and seasoning. Too early in diet process. I ate omelette, sardines, cucumber salad, almonds and berry smoothies since Monday and have went from 225-216lbs. I think that’s progress. I don’t want rice and salt to mess this up. It’s hard enough not drinking wine and beer.
Are you doing a low-carb diet deliberately or something? I am, so I wouldn’t eat rice after a week or a month for that matter, but low-carb isn’t the only way to lose weight. What you need to do is burn more energy than you consume. The only thing that really matters is finding a menu that you enjoy and feel satisfied on without eating as much of it as your body really wants day after day.
Not really. Just trying to get down to 185lbs. I’m doing spin class and swimming outside every night. Plus playing hockey 3 nights a week. Just trying to not eat fast food, or drink and keep my calories between 1200-1500.
Want to lose the 40lbs in 3 months. Trying to stay focused. Thanks for the insight Molly.4 -
Rice and seasoning. Too early in diet process. I ate omelette, sardines, cucumber salad, almonds and berry smoothies since Monday and have went from 225-216lbs. I think that’s progress. I don’t want rice and salt to mess this up. It’s hard enough not drinking wine and beer.
Oh heavens. If rice and seasoning messed up a diet, I'd never have lost the weight I did. I can't stand bland food. I season everything.
If the rice and the seasonings fit into your calorie and nutrition goals then you should be fine.3 -
So let's see.... 225lb guy.
Goal is to go from 225 to 185 in 90 days while eating sardines and berry smoothies, check?
So cutting just about 1600 Cal a day while eating between 1200 Cal and 1500 Cal for a targeted deficit of between 51% and 63% of TDEE if my fingers and my dog's dewclaws are enough to carry all the digits...
I don't think that either rice or seasoning is going to be your biggest problem with this plan!15 -
So ur saying I should be eating 3300 calories. It will take forever to lose weight.
I guess I could have some steak, chicken, broccoli and sweet potato’s. Too much found though. But that’s why I’m asking.3 -
So ur saying I should be eating 3300 calories. It will take forever to lose weight.
I am saying that you should be eating approximately 20% less than what you actually burn if you want to lose weight relatively safely and at a relatively good clip.
As to how long it takes.... you planning on being dead in 90 days hence you have a dead-line?
'Cause if you're planning on being alive, I don't see a big problem with losing the weight in 91 days or in 365 or even 730 days for that matter.
You know what else? In order to be successful you may even want to maintain your weight loss for a few thousand days after you manage to get to that lower weight too!
So it is sort of useful to actually develop a couple of strategies as to how you might want to go about doing the maintenance thing given that most people fail miserably at that and what-not.
Picking the right sort of kibble at the right quantity so that you're sort of full enough and healthy enough without eating too many calories and figuring out how to move around and exercise for health and balance are all useful things for that too.
Or are you planning on spinning and swimming outdoors 7 days a week plus playing hockey 3 nights a week from now till you're 95?9 -
I appreciate the info. Thanks. Sarcasm aside. Lol2
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Good and tasty kibble that is just right without being too much or too little is an art all by itself and not easy to figure out! Add in there balancing the nutritional component with the tasty component without over-doing anything on a consistent basis... it takes more than a couple of days to figure things out Slow down, smell the roses, and have some rice and seasoning.
Stick your weigh ins in a trending weight app (Happy Scale, Libra, Trendweight.com, Weightgrapher.com) and avoid reacting to pure water weight variations while concentrating on the underlying weight trend.
The 3300 figure was pulled out of thin air. It was based on your stated desire to lose 40lbs and your timescale of 90 days (so 1556 Cal a day deficit) and based on what you said you were eating.
The reality is that your initial weight loss hints at you going even faster (i.e. currently having an even bigger deficit than that) but it is really WAY too early to be able to tell as even with males anything less than a few weeks cannot show a reliable trend due to water weight fluctuations. (and by water weight we are not talking the amount of water you drink or whether you're "hydrated" but that is a whole other subject)3 -
Quick thought: stick the nutritional profile of a sweet potato next to that of a regular potato right next to each other. Look at it real careful now. Tell me which one is better? By how much? A number of studies have found both regular potatoes and apples to be very satiating (relative to same calorie alternatives). When you end up with a gazillion calories when it comes to potatoes, you're rarely talking boiled potato or baked potato. You're usually talking fried in oil or butter, or with a lot of heavy cream and butter, or with cheese, or with full fat sour cream and butter, or.... re-do the calculations with say 0% greek yogurt and some chives. Or salsa. Or some chili on top. (Fast food meal: Wendy's baked potato with a small chili thrown on it no butter or sour cream added).... mmmm..... BRB: I think I'm going to Wendy's with my ~500 Cal tonight5
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FlyingMolly wrote: »Rice and seasoning. Too early in diet process. I ate omelette, sardines, cucumber salad, almonds and berry smoothies since Monday and have went from 225-216lbs. I think that’s progress. I don’t want rice and salt to mess this up. It’s hard enough not drinking wine and beer.
Are you doing a low-carb diet deliberately or something? I am, so I wouldn’t eat rice after a week or a month for that matter, but low-carb isn’t the only way to lose weight. What you need to do is burn more energy than you consume. The only thing that really matters is finding a menu that you enjoy and feel satisfied on without eating as much of it as your body really wants day after day.
Not really. Just trying to get down to 185lbs. I’m doing spin class and swimming outside every night. Plus playing hockey 3 nights a week. Just trying to not eat fast food, or drink and keep my calories between 1200-1500.
Want to lose the 40lbs in 3 months. Trying to stay focused. Thanks for the insight Molly.
40 lbs in 3 months with your stats is simply not realistic. And eating less than 1500 cals as an adult male who is exercising is a recipe for disaster. You will lose a lot of muscle along with the fat and will struggle to get enough nutrition. Plus cutting that hard that fast almost guarantees a rebound once you're done.
You should really shoot for 1 lb per week, but if you must, set your goal to 1.5 lbs per week. Eat all those calories. Log your exercise and eat some of those cals too. It will take longer but you will have a much better chance of succeeding and keeping it off, and you'll probably look better if you get to goal in 7 months than you will if you get there in 3 months. Good luck!6 -
Rice and seasoning. Too early in diet process. I ate omelette, sardines, cucumber salad, almonds and berry smoothies since Monday and have went from 225-216lbs. I think that’s progress. I don’t want rice and salt to mess this up. It’s hard enough not drinking wine and beer.
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I don't understand why you'd think rice and seasoning would be a problem.
I eat rice 5 days a week, and often add seasoning to my food because it tastes good.4 -
Your lunch sounds good with either quinoa or rice. Seasoning with sodium may make you gain water weight, but it helps you enjoy the taste of food without adding many calories, so that's good.
If you want to add extras, salsas are low calorie, and so is low fat sour cream or Greek yogurt. Or lime juice. Avocado is not low calorie (I wish!) but is nutritious and it's not bad to add a little fat to a meal.
Your deadline may be a little optimistic. It's better to give yourself a little slack and develop habits you can maintain for a lifetime than to go hard and burn out.1 -
Thanks for the positive info jimmy and thanks rhedd.0
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Like many, I arrived here wanting to lose a lot of weight and fast. I lost 16 pounds in 2-3 weeks from 230 to 214 and was proud of myself. Only 25+ pounds to go, great huh?!
I then spent 2-3 days here reading threads, learning about CICO, appropriate rates of weight loss and what exceeding those rates means. I have now been a member here for @2 weeks and am by NO means a veteran but I have quickly realized I went about things the wrong way, focusing only on one thing, that number on the scale, to the detriment of everything else. Fast weight loss is a shock to the system and not healthy, or sustainable.
There is a pinned post at the top of this forum which is worth reading through. I really think though a 'get started quick' set of guidelines would have helped me a lot. Something along the lines of....
A weight loss of 1-2% of your body weight per week is appropriate and towards the upper end of that (and especially beyond) it will more likely result in the loss of BOTH fat and lean mass. If your aim is to lose fat but maintain or grow muscle mass then a slow and steady weight loss is the best course. Sudden initial weight loss is more likely to be water loss.
Yes, you can eat <fill in this blank> as much as you like as long as it fits within your calorie limit. That includes pizza, donuts, beer etc. The overriding rule is that the number of calories you eat are less than the number of calories you burn, calories in<calorie out - CICO.
No, the number of meals you eat per day doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter if you eat ice cream at 10PM, No, you don't need to remove <fill in this blank> from your diet.
You cannot control where you lose fat from. There is no exercise, food or magic potion which will result in you being able to lose fat from your belly, butt or wherever. Genetics will decide that for you. You can simply aim to reach a body fat % as an objective.
The number of calories you burn has two numbers to watch. Your BMR which is the number of calories required simply to keep the lights on (run your body, organs, keep you alive but not moving). The TDEE is the number of calories that start with your BMR but additionally include every calorie you burn on top of that, walking, living, exercising. For me, (6'2" 214 pounds, male, 52) that is a BMR of approx 1900 calories and a TDEE (depending on level of exercise that day) of approx 2800 calories. Aim for a calorie intake approximately 10-20% below your TDEE to create a calorie deficit.
So, I aim for a 20% deficit of my TDEE (20% of 2800 = 560) which is 2240 (2800-560). My daily target then is 2240 calories, raised or lowered to take into account level of exercise etc if the TDEE rises/falls.
If I eat less than my TDEE-2800 calories then I will lose weight, if I eat more than 2800 I will gain weight. Weight loss is not linear so expecting precisely 1 pound per week is not realistic. Weight loss should be measured over an extended period and the calorie intake tweaked based upon 6-8 week results.
3500 calories equates to a pound so if I want to lose 1 pound a week then I need to eat 3500 calories less than my total weekly TDEE (2800*7). My weekly TDEE (assuming that 2700/day) is 18,900 calories and so if I eat @15,400 calories I should lose 1 pound. Does that mean I WILL lose 1 pound by next week? No. But eating to that deficit over the long term will result in a slow/steady weight loss that minimizes (assuming resistance training along the way) muscle loss.
As I said, I have been here 2 weeks so I fully expect those with more experience to now, quite rightly, correct me on anything I got wrong but this above is what I have picked up and as a result I have HALTED my weight loss for the next 1-2 weeks to let my body recover from my recent sudden loss. Next week I will recommence my downward trend, at a more safe/sustainable rate.
Wishing you all the best in your journey.8 -
So ur saying I should be eating 3300 calories. It will take forever to lose weight.
I guess I could have some steak, chicken, broccoli and sweet potato’s. Too much found though. But that’s why I’m asking.
Did you put the weight on in three months? Because it won’t come off that quickly without doing some major damage to your body.3 -
Thanks so much wex65. Great post. Thanks for the knowledge. It explains a lot.2
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Like many, I arrived here wanting to lose a lot of weight and fast. I lost 16 pounds in 2-3 weeks from 230 to 214 and was proud of myself. Only 25+ pounds to go, great huh?!
I then spent 2-3 days here reading threads, learning about CICO, appropriate rates of weight loss and what exceeding those rates means. I have now been a member here for @2 weeks and am by NO means a veteran but I have quickly realized I went about things the wrong way, focusing only on one thing, that number on the scale, to the detriment of everything else. Fast weight loss is a shock to the system and not healthy, or sustainable.
There is a pinned post at the top of this forum which is worth reading through. I really think though a 'get started quick' set of guidelines would have helped me a lot. Something along the lines of....
A weight loss of 1-2% of your body weight per week is appropriate and towards the upper end of that (and especially beyond) it will more likely result in the loss of BOTH fat and lean mass. If your aim is to lose fat but maintain or grow muscle mass then a slow and steady weight loss is the best course. Sudden initial weight loss is more likely to be water loss.
Yes, you can eat <fill in this blank> as much as you like as long as it fits within your calorie limit. That includes pizza, donuts, beer etc. The overriding rule is that the number of calories you eat are less than the number of calories you burn, calories in<calorie out - CICO.
No, the number of meals you eat per day doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter if you eat ice cream at 10PM, No, you don't need to remove <fill in this blank> from your diet.
You cannot control where you lose fat from. There is no exercise, food or magic potion which will result in you being able to lose fat from your belly, butt or wherever. Genetics will decide that for you. You can simply aim to reach a body fat % as an objective.
The number of calories you burn has two numbers to watch. Your BMR which is the number of calories required simply to keep the lights on (run your body, organs, keep you alive but not moving). The TDEE is the number of calories that start with your BMR but additionally include every calorie you burn on top of that, walking, living, exercising. For me, (6'2" 214 pounds, male, 52) that is a BMR of approx 1900 calories and a TDEE (depending on level of exercise that day) of approx 2800 calories. Aim for a calorie intake approximately 10-20% below your TDEE to create a calorie deficit.
So, I aim for a 20% deficit of my TDEE (20% of 2800 = 560) which is 2240 (2800-560). My daily target then is 2240 calories, raised or lowered to take into account level of exercise etc if the TDEE rises/falls.
If I eat less than my TDEE-2800 calories then I will lose weight, if I eat more than 2800 I will gain weight. Weight loss is not linear so expecting precisely 1 pound per week is not realistic. Weight loss should be measured over an extended period and the calorie intake tweaked based upon 6-8 week results.
3500 calories equates to a pound so if I want to lose 1 pound a week then I need to eat 3500 calories less than my total weekly TDEE (2800*7). My weekly TDEE (assuming that 2700/day) is 18,900 calories and so if I eat @15,400 calories I should lose 1 pound. Does that mean I WILL lose 1 pound by next week? No. But eating to that deficit over the long term will result in a slow/steady weight loss that minimizes (assuming resistance training along the way) muscle loss.
As I said, I have been here 2 weeks so I fully expect those with more experience to now, quite rightly, correct me on anything I got wrong but this above is what I have picked up and as a result I have HALTED my weight loss for the next 1-2 weeks to let my body recover from my recent sudden loss. Next week I will recommence my downward trend, at a more safe/sustainable rate.
Wishing you all the best in your journey.
This is a really refreshing post. Not only did you take the time to read the stickies, you processed them and are now paraphrasing to help others. I think that’s great. Good luck!6
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