Can’t manage to hit intake goals, I’m not hungry
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No food is bad unless it has green fur or you are allergic to it.19
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labridge71488 wrote: »Okay well then someone please enlighten me on what protein I can eat that actually has flavor so that I don’t fall off the wagon if I’ve been doing it so wrong. Mind you these are all things I’ve previously been advised to try doing by other fitness “guru’s” so get the right protein needed for building muscle cutting fat.
Everything that “tastes good” is high in carbs and that is not my goal.
Eating chicken and only chicken. Bad. Eating turkey instead. Bad. Eating turkey bacon/sausage instead of real bacon and sausage. Bad. Red meat. Bad. Egg beaters vs real eggs. Bad. The list of things I’ve heard now I might as well give up because no one seems to know what’s good or bad based on science.
"don't eat carbs during the day as the are processed differently in women compared to men" is not science. There is nothing wrong with carbs.
You can eat what you like, just make it fit your calorie goal. Log accurately - get a scale and weigh everything, don't use measuring spoons unless it's a liquid. Do this consistently, until you reach your goal9 -
Unless there's a medical condition that I've missed somewhere, you need to shift your attention and focus on the basics.
- Proper calories - eat them. It doesn't matter where they come from, what type of food (food is not bad), just eat to your calorie goal
- Sufficient macros - fats, carbs, and protein - you need them all to be healthy and function well. None of them are bad, especially when eaten in reasonable quantities.
- Consistency and patience - the hardest part of this for many. You're not going to be perfect, so accept it and don't beat your self up for you bad days. Being consistently decent will likely yeild far better results than being occasionally perfect. Also - stick to what you're doing. Changing things up, at the very least, makes it harder to measure progress. Lastly, be patient. However long you think it will take to see results, it'll take longer.
At this point, it seems you've limited what you can and can't eat to such and extent that you can't hit basic nutritional needs (cals or macros). I don't care who you are - that's bad. That's the baddest bad. Get that fixed. Eat a variety of foods and aim for as balanced a diet as you can reasonably manage. That should be your goal for now.9 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »No food is bad unless it has green fur or you are allergic to it.
Kiwis have green fur
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labridge71488 wrote: »Okay well then someone please enlighten me on what protein I can eat that actually has flavor so that I don’t fall off the wagon if I’ve been doing it so wrong. Mind you these are all things I’ve previously been advised to try doing by other fitness “guru’s” so get the right protein needed for building muscle cutting fat.
Everything that “tastes good” is high in carbs and that is not my goal.
Eating chicken and only chicken. Bad. Eating turkey instead. Bad. Eating turkey bacon/sausage instead of real bacon and sausage. Bad. Red meat. Bad. Egg beaters vs real eggs. Bad. The list of things I’ve heard now I might as well give up because no one seems to know what’s good or bad based on science.
Just eat food. Pick a protein you like and eat it. I eat chicken, turkey, beef, pork, bacon, venison, hamburger, etc, etc.
Quit listening to "gurus."
And buy a food scale.18 -
You are right! My bad.k8andchr1smom wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »No food is bad unless it has green fur or you are allergic to it.
Kiwis have green fur
OP, if it smells funky.
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labridge71488 wrote: »Okay well then someone please enlighten me on what protein I can eat that actually has flavor so that I don’t fall off the wagon if I’ve been doing it so wrong. Mind you these are all things I’ve previously been advised to try doing by other fitness “guru’s” so get the right protein needed for building muscle cutting fat.
Everything that “tastes good” is high in carbs and that is not my goal.
Eating chicken and only chicken. Bad. Eating turkey instead. Bad. Eating turkey bacon/sausage instead of real bacon and sausage. Bad. Red meat. Bad. Egg beaters vs real eggs. Bad. The list of things I’ve heard now I might as well give up because no one seems to know what’s good or bad based on science.
There aren't "good" or "bad" foods, although there are some foods that are healthier for you than others as far as nutrients go. Is there a reason that you are avoiding carbs? Unless you have diabetes or are insulin resistant, there's no real reason to avoid carbs and they are actually a nice way to boost mood and satiety for a lot of people. You also get to add legumes into your diet, which will help boost your protein. Red meat is good in moderation, real bacon is good in moderation, brownies are good in moderation. Hit your macros and micros while maintaining your deficit and you're golden.7 -
Apparently people can’t read when I say I have a food scale lol
I’m sure I can do more to try and figure out how to change 1/4 cup of broccoli to whatever that equates to on a scale and somehow figure out the calories macros that way based on a label that measures in cups, not grams/ounces, but I do weigh my turkey or chicken. Apparently I am wrong to think that a package that has 5 servings when split into 5 servings isn’t actually what is on the nutrition label.
Oh well I guess I’ll just wing it?11 -
Good advice about accurately weighing your food, from the above posters.
If you are certain that you are weighing accurately, you should be losing. It may be time to consult with your health care professional to rule out something medical.0 -
labridge71488 wrote: »Apparently people can’t read when I say I have a food scale lol
I’m sure I can do more to try and figure out how to change 1/4 cup of broccoli to whatever that equates to on a scale and somehow figure out the calories macros that way based on a label that measures in cups, not grams/ounces, but I do weigh my turkey or chicken. Apparently I am wrong to think that a package that has 5 servings when split into 5 servings isn’t actually what is on the nutrition label.
Oh well I guess I’ll just wing it?
Having a food scale isn't the same as using a food scale.
Nutrition labels on packages can be off by 20% by law in the USA. Not sure where you are. I double checked a protein bar yesterday, just for *kitten* and giggles. It was supposed to be 62 grams, and really weighed 70. Those little things add up.
Weigh your broccoli in grams, log it in grams. It isn't hard.
But cheese, peanut butter, ice cream, fattier meats, etc, are the food items that really need weighed and logged in grams.
But, go ahead and wing it. It's working so well for you now.20 -
Got to weigh your food out,cups,spoons aren't accurate,,I once crammed a whole plate of lasagna into a "1 cup" serving,I think you're eyeballing a lot of your portions10
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labridge71488 wrote: »Apparently people can’t read when I say I have a food scale lol
I’m sure I can do more to try and figure out how to change 1/4 cup of broccoli to whatever that equates to on a scale and somehow figure out the calories macros that way based on a label that measures in cups, not grams/ounces, but I do weigh my turkey or chicken. Apparently I am wrong to think that a package that has 5 servings when split into 5 servings isn’t actually what is on the nutrition label.
Oh well I guess I’ll just wing it?
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1) you asked for advice, we're giving it to you. Don't get all huffy just because you don't like the advice. If you aren't willing to listen/think/consider options, then don't ask.
2) food labels are often inaccurate... even pre-packaged foods. There's a thread on this very topic in the food forum (I believe it's the food forum). Calorie info and/or # of servings can be significantly off from what is stated on the package.19 -
labridge71488 wrote: »
Late lunch(1-2ish)- 8oz ground turkey with premeasured taco seasoning with 2 tablespoons of guacamole. Total- 439 cals this hasn’t changed much as I always do 8oz of lean meat simply seasoned, no sauces.
I just feel stuck. Every time I try something new I feel like it’s working but then it’s not.
If someone tried to make me eat a meal of 8 oz of meat, I would call the police. Is that how you want to eat for the rest of your life? Then don't eat that way now. As has been mentioned, you should aim to hit your calorie goal and a *reasonable* amount of protein and not worry so much about the rest. It's good to want to protect muscle in the weight loss phase, but you're really not going to build muscle in a calorie deficit, if you are in fact in one.
Your other statement is interesting... what do you mean by "every time I try something new I feel like it's working but then it's not"? How often are you making changes? Do you expect to see weight loss every single week? (I understand you say you haven't lost anything in 2 months... just trying to clarify what you consider "working" is.)
What is the calorie allowance MFP gives you and what is your weekly weight loss goal?5 -
labridge71488 wrote: »Apparently people can’t read when I say I have a food scale lol
I’m sure I can do more to try and figure out how to change 1/4 cup of broccoli to whatever that equates to on a scale and somehow figure out the calories macros that way based on a label that measures in cups, not grams/ounces, but I do weigh my turkey or chicken. Apparently I am wrong to think that a package that has 5 servings when split into 5 servings isn’t actually what is on the nutrition label.
Oh well I guess I’ll just wing it?
2) food labels are often inaccurate... even pre-packaged foods. There's a thread on this very topic in the food forum (I believe it's the food forum).
Here it is:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10646009/why-weighing-is-important-even-for-packaged-food/p15 -
As you can tell I’m overly frustrated with this whole process not by what people are trying to help me do. It’s just confusing to be told do this and that and then be told it’s bad and wrong by someone else. I’m not trying to be huffy and puffy, I’m trying to get honest help but it’s like everything I told to do from on every person is the exact opposite of what someone else is saying.
I understand use the food scale to measure. I will do better with this and throw out all my measuring tools(not literally, but in this situation I will pretend they’re non existent for now when measuring).
I’m trying to not eat high amounts of carbs during the day, not all together. More of a carb backloading method. My energy is fine and I’m always pumped to go to the gym so the low carb during the day hasn’t been affecting me.
One thing I keep getting preached is everyone’s body is different and processes everything different so what may work for some may not work for me which is why I’m trying to figure out what will work for me to lose the weight. It literally “looks” like the fat I did have on my arms is now muscle which is fine but I wanted to make them smaller, not bigger. My legs have gotten stronger and more muscular but again no change in size. I don’t want to go up, I want to go down.
I’m sorry if my comments have come off as rudeness but I’m on two months of no change
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labridge71488 wrote: »Apparently people can’t read when I say I have a food scale lol
I’m sure I can do more to try and figure out how to change 1/4 cup of broccoli to whatever that equates to on a scale and somehow figure out the calories macros that way based on a label that measures in cups, not grams/ounces, but I do weigh my turkey or chicken. Apparently I am wrong to think that a package that has 5 servings when split into 5 servings isn’t actually what is on the nutrition label.
Oh well I guess I’ll just wing it?
Yes, you are. Nutrition labels and servings/package aren't exact. A protein powder I have says that 1 scoop=30g, when actually 1 scoop=20g. Another supplement powder I have is the opposite, with each scoop being more than the supposed weight according to the package.
If you're buying and cooking just for yourself and know what you'll be eating, you can weigh out everything when you buy it (plop the whole package of bacon on the scale, the entire bunch of spinach, etc.) and distribute that amount over however many days it takes you to eat it. So if you bought 200 grams of spinach, and it will take you 5 days to eat it, you could pre-log 40g/day for five days. If you have 50g one day and 30g another, it won't matter, and you will have saved yourself some time.3 -
What works for everyone is eating fewer calories than their body uses. How many calories that is is very individual.
How many calories are you eating per day? Do you know what your maintenance calories are?4 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »No food is bad unless it has green fur or you are allergic to it.
In moderation these are perfectly fine
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Well now that I’ve been told using measuring cups is wrong I really don’t know how many calories I’ve been consuming, I’ll have to get back to everyone. According to multiple calculators, Daily calorie target is 1600kcal5
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labridge71488 wrote: »As you can tell I’m overly frustrated with this whole process not by what people are trying to help me do. It’s just confusing to be told do this and that and then be told it’s bad and wrong by someone else. I’m not trying to be huffy and puffy, I’m trying to get honest help but it’s like everything I told to do from on every person is the exact opposite of what someone else is saying.
I understand use the food scale to measure. I will do better with this and throw out all my measuring tools(not literally, but in this situation I will pretend they’re non existent for now when measuring).
I’m trying to not eat high amounts of carbs during the day, not all together. More of a carb backloading method. My energy is fine and I’m always pumped to go to the gym so the low carb during the day hasn’t been affecting me.
One thing I keep getting preached is everyone’s body is different and processes everything different so what may work for some may not work for me which is why I’m trying to figure out what will work for me to lose the weight. It literally “looks” like the fat I did have on my arms is now muscle which is fine but I wanted to make them smaller, not bigger. My legs have gotten stronger and more muscular but again no change in size. I don’t want to go up, I want to go down.
I’m sorry if my comments have come off as rudeness but I’m on two months of no change
I'd throw out most of what you've been told prior to this thread as it seems to be doing you more harm than good. There is some truth to the notion that everyone is different - but not in the context that most people want to think.
We are all playing the same game, and playing under the same rules. You can't change that. The game and the rules are the same regardless of your age, height, gender, body shape, or whatever else you think might make you special. What does change is how you choose to play the game. Some people go all in, some double down, some play conservative, and some just flat out fold. That's a long way of saying this:
If your body is using more energy (calories) than you are giving it, it WILL necessarily break down stored energy to make up for that deficit. That will necessarily result in weight loss (though it can be hard to measure/track in real world scenarios). How you choose to burn calories (exercise) and how you choose to supply calories to your body (eat) is entirely up to you... but ultimately, you should try to do those things in a way that makes the process as easy as possible. The goal is to enjoy what (and how much) you eat and to enjoy how you exercise to the greatest degree possible. Because this can very individual, this is the part where "everyone is different" has merit.12 -
labridge71488 wrote: »Apparently people can’t read when I say I have a food scale lol
I’m sure I can do more to try and figure out how to change 1/4 cup of broccoli to whatever that equates to on a scale and somehow figure out the calories macros that way based on a label that measures in cups, not grams/ounces, but I do weigh my turkey or chicken. Apparently I am wrong to think that a package that has 5 servings when split into 5 servings isn’t actually what is on the nutrition label.
Oh well I guess I’ll just wing it?
Most bags will say "serving size 1/3 cup (1 oz/28 grams) All you do is divide the number of calories per serving by the number of grams per serving and that gives you the calories per gram of the item. Then you weigh out how much broccoli you want to eat and multiply that by the calories per gram. Example: apples are 0.5 calories per gram, a 156 gram apple is 78 calories.
I have a sheet of paper with the weights per gram of all fruits, vegetables, and meats that I eat (I don't log on MPF; I use a paper diary).1 -
labridge71488 wrote: »Well now that I’ve been told using measuring cups is wrong I really don’t know how many calories I’ve been consuming, I’ll have to get back to everyone. According to multiple calculators, Daily calorie target is 1600kcal
Sounds good, and BTW, you look great in your profile pic! Patience & consistency
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labridge71488 wrote: »Well now that I’ve been told using measuring cups is wrong I really don’t know how many calories I’ve been consuming, I’ll have to get back to everyone. According to multiple calculators, Daily calorie target is 1600kcal
To some extent, it doesn't matter what the number is. It's an estimate regardless, but obviously a more accurate estimate is easier to work with than a less accurate one. But ultimately, if you're not losing weight, you're not in a calorie deficit. So you could, in theory, continue with your current methods of weighing/measuring/estimating and simply eat less based on those estimates.4 -
Is there a more accurate way to determine body fat when literally 80% of my body fat is below my waist(thighs) without using calipers? Lol0
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Just a thought, you are working out 4 X a week, what do you do with those calories? are they part of your 1600? How accurate is the amount burned number you are working from? No experience with this personally tbh but everyone has covered calories in weighing and logging etc so may be worth checking calories out, x0
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labridge71488 wrote: »Is there a more accurate way to determine body fat when literally 80% of my body fat is below my waist(thighs) without using calipers? Lol
Hydrostatic weighing, Bod Pod, or DEXA scan.
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labridge71488 wrote: »Is there a more accurate way to determine body fat when literally 80% of my body fat is below my waist(thighs) without using calipers? Lol
Not really. I've got a scale that shows BF% and while it has gone down, I don't the the number itself is accurate. Even calipers are only as good as the person using them. DEXA scan is the best, but pricey (I can't even find one for non-medical use where I live).
On the scale vs cup. My eye opener when I got a scale was my Granola. Serving size is 2/3 cup or 45 grams for 210 calories. So I was having 1 cup and adding 315 calories. Then got a scale and found 1 cup was over 90 grams or ~425 calories (if I remember correctly). So 100 calories pretty much everyday. On someone with not a lot to lose, that can be half their deficit before they get moving in the morning.2 -
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this -- do you put your food into MFP or into Fitbit's calorie logging system?
Bacon won't make you fall off the wagon. I eat 2 slices for 70 calories. I also eat pasta every. single. day.
Definitely make sure that you're logging your sausages. I know it's been said but the 1/4 broccoli isn't going to have as much of a deviation as 1/4 cup sausage.1 -
I know very little about cico. However I did the calculations for BMR, TDEE and other random calorie intake calculators and it says my TDEE is 2220, and BMR is 1539. I basically aim to eat 1200-1500 calories a day, but I have no idea how to determine how many calories I’m burning by weight training to factor that in.0
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labridge71488 wrote: »Is there a more accurate way to determine body fat when literally 80% of my body fat is below my waist(thighs) without using calipers? Lol
Get a DEXA scan. A lot of major cities have places that offer them (at least here in the U.S.) and they usually run between $50-$150. I'm planning to get one this fall.
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