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Diet to lose weight plus try build up muscle mass and lower body fat!!
sflano1271
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Hi do you think this diet is ok to eat I need to lose weight plus try build up a bit of muscle mass and lower body fat! For breakfast I have 40g of porridge and a whey protein shake then after the gym have a whey protein shake and a fulfill protein bar then for dinner have a few frozen roasted potatoes with chicken breast and then last meal have weetabix with milk in a bowl then before bed have a casein protein shake. Do yous think this diet will work for me? Im doing resistance training 4 days a week in the gym...!!
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You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.8 -
It's improbable to build significant muscle mass while trying to lose fat at the same time. One is an anabolic program while the other is a catabolic program. Done at the same time, they pretty much cancel each other out. You pretty much have to pick one or the other, so pick the one that's more important to you.
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It's improbable to build significant muscle mass while trying to lose fat at the same time. One is an anabolic program while the other is a catabolic program. Done at the same time, they pretty much cancel each other out. You pretty much have to pick one or the other, so pick the one that's more important to you.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Will what way will I turn out like with this diet?0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean5 -
sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...16 -
TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?0 -
sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).7 -
sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Whatever you like. How much protein are you trying to get?
Also, you need to decide if you're cutting/bulking/recomping1 -
If you're in a calorie deficit you'll lose weight, mostly fat if you're getting enough calories in. Building muscle in a deficit isn't probable because to actually ADD mass, you're adding weight. The whole "converting" weight from fat to muscle is overly exaggerated by magazines and many in the fitness business to just sell more product or services.sflano1271 wrote: »It's improbable to build significant muscle mass while trying to lose fat at the same time. One is an anabolic program while the other is a catabolic program. Done at the same time, they pretty much cancel each other out. You pretty much have to pick one or the other, so pick the one that's more important to you.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Will what way will I turn out like with this diet?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).
I dont know what to be eating most foods that I like are unhealthy like fast foods etc I like eating potatoes as a carb I do steam them cause I don't really like rice but id eat white basmati rice0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Whatever you like. How much protein are you trying to get?
Also, you need to decide if you're cutting/bulking/recomping
I need to get 197g of protein per day Id say I need to cut.0 -
sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Whatever you like. How much protein are you trying to get?
Also, you need to decide if you're cutting/bulking/recomping
I need to get 197g of protein per day Id say I need to cut.
Is that how much you weigh? 197?0 -
If you're in a calorie deficit you'll lose weight, mostly fat if you're getting enough calories in. Building muscle in a deficit isn't probable because to actually ADD mass, you're adding weight. The whole "converting" weight from fat to muscle is overly exaggerated by magazines and many in the fitness business to just sell more product or services.sflano1271 wrote: »It's improbable to build significant muscle mass while trying to lose fat at the same time. One is an anabolic program while the other is a catabolic program. Done at the same time, they pretty much cancel each other out. You pretty much have to pick one or the other, so pick the one that's more important to you.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Will what way will I turn out like with this diet?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I need to be in a calorie deficit and I need 197g of protein per day0 -
sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).
I dont know what to be eating most foods that I like are unhealthy like fast foods etc I like eating potatoes as a carb I do steam them cause I don't really like rice but id eat white basmati rice
Stop thinking of foods as healthy and unhealthy and think about the context of your diet and get it balanced. Is it great to eat fast food two times per day 6 days per week? Maybe not. But ask yourself WHY. Food is made up of macro and micronutrients that your body needs and uses. Even fast food has them. But, eating too much fast food can stop you from eating enough vegetables, or getting enough micro nutrients, or just eating too many calories because it is calorie dense. So eat some fast food, but balance your diet with nutrient dense food as well. You like potatoes. Eat the potato.
I'm going on and on. First decide what your goal is (weight loss or muscle gain), then set MFP up with the calories to meet that goal, then eat that many calories. Adjust the propteinn upward as it gives you a low goal.7 -
TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Whatever you like. How much protein are you trying to get?
Also, you need to decide if you're cutting/bulking/recomping
I need to get 197g of protein per day Id say I need to cut.
Is that how much you weigh? 197?
I weigh 95kg0 -
sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).
I dont know what to be eating most foods that I like are unhealthy like fast foods etc I like eating potatoes as a carb I do steam them cause I don't really like rice but id eat white basmati rice
Stop thinking of foods as healthy and unhealthy and think about the context of your diet and get it balanced. Is it great to eat fast food two times per day 6 days per week? Maybe not. But ask yourself WHY. Food is made up of macro and micronutrients that your body needs and uses. Even fast food has them. But, eating too much fast food can stop you from eating enough vegetables, or getting enough micro nutrients, or just eating too many calories because it is calorie dense. So eat some fast food, but balance your diet with nutrient dense food as well. You like potatoes. Eat the potato.
I'm going on and on. First decide what your goal is (weight loss or muscle gain), then set MFP up with the calories to meet that goal, then eat that many calories. Adjust the propteinn upward as it gives you a low goal.
My goal for the moment is weightloss but I dont want to lose any muscle0 -
sflano1271 wrote: »
My goal for the moment is weightloss but I dont want to lose any muscle
Eat foods you like, in a deficit, and workout with a progressive lifting routine until you are at or near goal and then reassess. Don't focus on muscle growth at this time, the lifting will be to mitigate muscle loss from the weight cut.4 -
sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).
I dont know what to be eating most foods that I like are unhealthy like fast foods etc I like eating potatoes as a carb I do steam them cause I don't really like rice but id eat white basmati rice
Stop thinking of foods as healthy and unhealthy and think about the context of your diet and get it balanced. Is it great to eat fast food two times per day 6 days per week? Maybe not. But ask yourself WHY. Food is made up of macro and micronutrients that your body needs and uses. Even fast food has them. But, eating too much fast food can stop you from eating enough vegetables, or getting enough micro nutrients, or just eating too many calories because it is calorie dense. So eat some fast food, but balance your diet with nutrient dense food as well. You like potatoes. Eat the potato.
I'm going on and on. First decide what your goal is (weight loss or muscle gain), then set MFP up with the calories to meet that goal, then eat that many calories. Adjust the propteinn upward as it gives you a low goal.
How do I set mfp with the certain amount of calories for weight loss0 -
MelanieCN77 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »
My goal for the moment is weightloss but I dont want to lose any muscle
Eat foods you like, in a deficit, and workout with a progressive lifting routine until you are at or near goal and then reassess. Don't focus on muscle growth at this time, the lifting will be to mitigate muscle loss from the weight cut.MelanieCN77 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »
My goal for the moment is weightloss but I dont want to lose any muscle
Eat foods you like, in a deficit, and workout with a progressive lifting routine until you are at or near goal and then reassess. Don't focus on muscle growth at this time, the lifting will be to mitigate muscle loss from the weight cut.
But I dont know what to eat unfortunately I need to get my diet right not eat junk etc2 -
sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).
I dont know what to be eating most foods that I like are unhealthy like fast foods etc I like eating potatoes as a carb I do steam them cause I don't really like rice but id eat white basmati rice
Stop thinking of foods as healthy and unhealthy and think about the context of your diet and get it balanced. Is it great to eat fast food two times per day 6 days per week? Maybe not. But ask yourself WHY. Food is made up of macro and micronutrients that your body needs and uses. Even fast food has them. But, eating too much fast food can stop you from eating enough vegetables, or getting enough micro nutrients, or just eating too many calories because it is calorie dense. So eat some fast food, but balance your diet with nutrient dense food as well. You like potatoes. Eat the potato.
I'm going on and on. First decide what your goal is (weight loss or muscle gain), then set MFP up with the calories to meet that goal, then eat that many calories. Adjust the propteinn upward as it gives you a low goal.
How do I set mfp with the certain amount of calories for weight loss
Dude. Take a breath and look at the app for more than 30 seconds Just tell it you want to lose .5lbs per week. Or a 1 pound week in the goal settings and it does it for you.6 -
sflano1271 wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »
My goal for the moment is weightloss but I dont want to lose any muscle
Eat foods you like, in a deficit, and workout with a progressive lifting routine until you are at or near goal and then reassess. Don't focus on muscle growth at this time, the lifting will be to mitigate muscle loss from the weight cut.MelanieCN77 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »
My goal for the moment is weightloss but I dont want to lose any muscle
Eat foods you like, in a deficit, and workout with a progressive lifting routine until you are at or near goal and then reassess. Don't focus on muscle growth at this time, the lifting will be to mitigate muscle loss from the weight cut.
But I dont know what to eat unfortunately I need to get my diet right not eat junk etc
CERTAIN FOODS DO NO CREATE WEIGHT LOSS OR MUSCLE GAIN.
Eat food. Log it. Stay in a deficit for weight loss. Lift heavy weights for muscle maintenance.
Sorry guys, haven't finished my coffee yet.11 -
OP, if you go into almost any thread here asking about food groups, or kinds of diet, or struggles "eating clean" you will see an overwhelming amount of advice from people who have lost lots of weight is that exactly what your diet is made up of has very little impact on weight loss as long as you are eating less calories than you are burning. Start small. Start with eating your "junk" but in a deficit. Then start changing small habits one at a time every few weeks. Upending your life and preferences and habits one day has next to no chance of effecting permanent change.
What do you like to eat? What is this junk you are so disgusted by all of a sudden? There are "healthy" and lower cal versions of everything you like to eat. Chill out for a second and come at it from the perspective of being kind to yourself.5 -
I'm not saying eat super clean, but there are no veggies but potatoes in that diet. Your digestive system will thank you for adding some.4
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sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).
I dont know what to be eating most foods that I like are unhealthy like fast foods etc I like eating potatoes as a carb I do steam them cause I don't really like rice but id eat white basmati rice
Stop thinking of foods as healthy and unhealthy and think about the context of your diet and get it balanced. Is it great to eat fast food two times per day 6 days per week? Maybe not. But ask yourself WHY. Food is made up of macro and micronutrients that your body needs and uses. Even fast food has them. But, eating too much fast food can stop you from eating enough vegetables, or getting enough micro nutrients, or just eating too many calories because it is calorie dense. So eat some fast food, but balance your diet with nutrient dense food as well. You like potatoes. Eat the potato.
I'm going on and on. First decide what your goal is (weight loss or muscle gain), then set MFP up with the calories to meet that goal, then eat that many calories. Adjust the propteinn upward as it gives you a low goal.
How do I set mfp with the certain amount of calories for weight loss
Dude. Take a breath and look at the app for more than 30 seconds Just tell it you want to lose .5lbs per week. Or a 1 pound week in the goal settings and it does it for you.
Hi I set my calories for 1kg to lose per week it gave me 1,500calories per day with 188g of carbs at 50%,protein 75g at 20% and fats 50g at 30%.0 -
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sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).
I dont know what to be eating most foods that I like are unhealthy like fast foods etc I like eating potatoes as a carb I do steam them cause I don't really like rice but id eat white basmati rice
Stop thinking of foods as healthy and unhealthy and think about the context of your diet and get it balanced. Is it great to eat fast food two times per day 6 days per week? Maybe not. But ask yourself WHY. Food is made up of macro and micronutrients that your body needs and uses. Even fast food has them. But, eating too much fast food can stop you from eating enough vegetables, or getting enough micro nutrients, or just eating too many calories because it is calorie dense. So eat some fast food, but balance your diet with nutrient dense food as well. You like potatoes. Eat the potato.
I'm going on and on. First decide what your goal is (weight loss or muscle gain), then set MFP up with the calories to meet that goal, then eat that many calories. Adjust the propteinn upward as it gives you a low goal.
How do I set mfp with the certain amount of calories for weight loss
Dude. Take a breath and look at the app for more than 30 seconds Just tell it you want to lose .5lbs per week. Or a 1 pound week in the goal settings and it does it for you.
Hi I set my calories for 1kg to lose per week it gave me 1,500calories per day with 188g of carbs at 50%,protein 75g at 20% and fats 50g at 30%.
Change that to lose 0.5kg per week3 -
TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).
I dont know what to be eating most foods that I like are unhealthy like fast foods etc I like eating potatoes as a carb I do steam them cause I don't really like rice but id eat white basmati rice
Stop thinking of foods as healthy and unhealthy and think about the context of your diet and get it balanced. Is it great to eat fast food two times per day 6 days per week? Maybe not. But ask yourself WHY. Food is made up of macro and micronutrients that your body needs and uses. Even fast food has them. But, eating too much fast food can stop you from eating enough vegetables, or getting enough micro nutrients, or just eating too many calories because it is calorie dense. So eat some fast food, but balance your diet with nutrient dense food as well. You like potatoes. Eat the potato.
I'm going on and on. First decide what your goal is (weight loss or muscle gain), then set MFP up with the calories to meet that goal, then eat that many calories. Adjust the propteinn upward as it gives you a low goal.
How do I set mfp with the certain amount of calories for weight loss
Dude. Take a breath and look at the app for more than 30 seconds Just tell it you want to lose .5lbs per week. Or a 1 pound week in the goal settings and it does it for you.
Hi I set my calories for 1kg to lose per week it gave me 1,500calories per day with 188g of carbs at 50%,protein 75g at 20% and fats 50g at 30%.
Change that to lose 0.5kg per week
Why??0 -
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Because 1500 cals is rock bottom for men and it's going to be a tough number to stick to and burn you out really fast.2
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sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sflano1271 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You don't eat any fruit or veg?
Excessive use of protein powder and too low in fat.
I think this diet is for building lean
I think this diet is for hating food and being unhealthy...
Ok so what diet would you suggest me with and foods to eat I struggle with my diet at the moment?
Eat foods you like. Make sure you're eating some vegetables. Consider eating a good deal of protein (.8g per pound of body weight or lean mass).
I dont know what to be eating most foods that I like are unhealthy like fast foods etc I like eating potatoes as a carb I do steam them cause I don't really like rice but id eat white basmati rice
Stop thinking of foods as healthy and unhealthy and think about the context of your diet and get it balanced. Is it great to eat fast food two times per day 6 days per week? Maybe not. But ask yourself WHY. Food is made up of macro and micronutrients that your body needs and uses. Even fast food has them. But, eating too much fast food can stop you from eating enough vegetables, or getting enough micro nutrients, or just eating too many calories because it is calorie dense. So eat some fast food, but balance your diet with nutrient dense food as well. You like potatoes. Eat the potato.
I'm going on and on. First decide what your goal is (weight loss or muscle gain), then set MFP up with the calories to meet that goal, then eat that many calories. Adjust the propteinn upward as it gives you a low goal.
How do I set mfp with the certain amount of calories for weight loss
Dude. Take a breath and look at the app for more than 30 seconds Just tell it you want to lose .5lbs per week. Or a 1 pound week in the goal settings and it does it for you.
Hi I set my calories for 1kg to lose per week it gave me 1,500calories per day with 188g of carbs at 50%,protein 75g at 20% and fats 50g at 30%.
Change that to lose 0.5kg per week
Why??
At your weight, trying to lose a pound per week creates an aggressive deficit. Aggressive calorie deficits make it harder to maintain muscle mass. So we are giving you advice to help reach your goals
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