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Why do people deny CICO ?
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I don’t know its so annoying. People want to make it so much more complicated than it is. They just want to believe these make believe rules.I never argue with these people though. I say what works for me and that’s it.
I will add that a lot of people don’t want to count calories because it’s tedious so thats why they look for alternatives. It helps them to create “rules” for themselves, and if those rules create a calorie deficit without them having to count calories then that works too. They never admit that’s what they’re doing though lol.7 -
I know a girl that lost a significant amount of weight. She literally looks like a totally different person and all while doing so, she ate anywhere from 2,000-3,000 calories a day. Mind you, this was following a ketogenic diet.26
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cheyennecall91 wrote: »I know a girl that lost a significant amount of weight. She literally looks like a totally different person and all while doing so, she ate anywhere from 2,000-3,000 calories a day. Mind you, this was following a ketogenic diet.
Do you have a link to this incredible story? Or is this hearsay?10 -
cheyennecall91 wrote: »I know a girl that lost a significant amount of weight. She literally looks like a totally different person and all while doing so, she ate anywhere from 2,000-3,000 calories a day. Mind you, this was following a ketogenic diet.
How tall is she?
I can lose on 2000 calories per day. So if I kept the 3000 calorie days to a minimum, it's totally do-able. Keto or no.10 -
cheyennecall91 wrote: »I know a girl that lost a significant amount of weight. She literally looks like a totally different person and all while doing so, she ate anywhere from 2,000-3,000 calories a day. Mind you, this was following a ketogenic diet.
So she says. My guess is neither she nor, much less, you have any real ideal of her calorie intake.17 -
we also don't know what her expenditure was per day either3
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It’s like people think that calories are a substance. Like carbs or something. Calories are a unit of measurement. It’s the “energy” in your food. Counting your calories, ultimately, is how weight works. You will never gain weight eating under your calories. And never lose weight eating over. That’s just factual, objectivity, factual information. I don’t get it either. And also why do people find it unappealing. Like you said - this “diet” you can eat literally whatever you want. If you get really good at counting you can even manipulate your calories with net counting and eat all kinds of ways. Idk. People are so resistance to factual information. Count your calories folks.12
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cheyennecall91 wrote: »I know a girl that lost a significant amount of weight. She literally looks like a totally different person and all while doing so, she ate anywhere from 2,000-3,000 calories a day. Mind you, this was following a ketogenic diet.
No disrespect. But she must be lying or doesn’t know how to count her calories correctly. Unless she’s like extremely active or 7 foot tall. She is not eating 3,000 calories a day. Lol.
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i didn't say it was. we know she was eating that much and doing a large amount of energy expenditure if the story is true7 -
Now I'm just wondering how I lost 40 Lbs and have managed to keep it off (except for winter weight) for 5 years. I'm also wondering how the hell I've lost 4 of my 10 Lbs of winter weight in the last month.4
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Now I'm just wondering how I lost 40 Lbs and have managed to keep it off (except for winter weight) for 5 years. I'm also wondering how the hell I've lost 4 of my 10 Lbs of winter weight in the last month.
Magic
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Now I'm just wondering how I lost 40 Lbs and have managed to keep it off (except for winter weight) for 5 years. I'm also wondering how the hell I've lost 4 of my 10 Lbs of winter weight in the last month.
share the unicorn with the rest of us!!!!2 -
i didn't say it was. we know she was eating that much and doing a large amount of energy expenditure if the story is true
I was adding to your point, not disputing it. 5 -
Who knows, maybe she was like 6 feet tall...3 -
michaelwyatt8262 wrote: »cheyennecall91 wrote: »I know a girl that lost a significant amount of weight. She literally looks like a totally different person and all while doing so, she ate anywhere from 2,000-3,000 calories a day. Mind you, this was following a ketogenic diet.
No disrespect. But she must be lying or doesn’t know how to count her calories correctly. Unless she’s like extremely active or 7 foot tall. She is not eating 3,000 calories a day. Lol.
You beat me to the punch...3 -
It's always the people on the special diets who eat ridiculous amounts of calories and lose weight. Keto and LFHC vegans are especially good for these tall tales of extreme caloric feats of weight loss that point to nothing more than their lack of ability to calorie count properly.14
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Idk why 2-3k is considered a lot when we don't know her bodyweight or what she does for a living. I got down to 175 lbs averaging 2600-2900 calories depending on the month with a desk job. And no, never Keto, lol!quiksylver296 wrote: »cheyennecall91 wrote: »I know a girl that lost a significant amount of weight. She literally looks like a totally different person and all while doing so, she ate anywhere from 2,000-3,000 calories a day. Mind you, this was following a ketogenic diet.
How tall is she?
I can lose on 2000 calories per day. So if I kept the 3000 calorie days to a minimum, it's totally do-able. Keto or no.
Here is an example. 7 -
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Why do people deny CICO?
Because trolling is so much fun!9 -
OK, fake woman aside. I eat anywhere between 2000-3000 calories/day. I also run anywhere from 4 - 7 miles/day and walk a bit. I am 59 years old, have been here for a few years and have been on maintenance for over 2 years. My weight stays constant. Height has nothing to do with anything. CICO10
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OK, fake woman aside. I eat anywhere between 2000-3000 calories/day. I also run anywhere from 4 - 7 miles/day and walk a bit. I am 59 years old, have been here for a few years and have been on maintenance for over 2 years. My weight stays constant. Height has nothing to do with anything. CICO
Calorie calculators seem to think that height has something to do with something.
Run a hypothetical person through a calorie calculator at the same weight, same age and two different heights (with a significant height difference - not just a couple inches). Doing mine that way gave a TDEE difference of 219 calories (2605 at my actual height/weight/age, 2386 at a height 10 inches shorter).10 -
A woman losing weight on 2000 - 3000 calories doesn't sound that extreme to me.
That's an average of 2500 calories per day
I lost on 1460 - I am older, shorter and less active than many people.
A taller younger more active woman could easily eat 1000 more calories than me and lose weight.
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michaelwyatt8262 wrote: »It’s like people think that calories are a substance. Like carbs or something. Calories are a unit of measurement. It’s the “energy” in your food. Counting your calories, ultimately, is how weight works. You will never gain weight eating under your calories. And never lose weight eating over. That’s just factual, objectivity, factual information. I don’t get it either. And also why do people find it unappealing. Like you said - this “diet” you can eat literally whatever you want. If you get really good at counting you can even manipulate your calories with net counting and eat all kinds of ways. Idk. People are so resistance to factual information. Count your calories folks.
Eating less than you burn is ultimately how weight loss works.
This may or may not involve counting calories.
I can undetstand why some people find calorie counting unappealing - and fair enough too. It is not the only way or neccesarily the best way, to lose weight.
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OK, fake woman aside. I eat anywhere between 2000-3000 calories/day. I also run anywhere from 4 - 7 miles/day and walk a bit. I am 59 years old, have been here for a few years and have been on maintenance for over 2 years. My weight stays constant. Height has nothing to do with anything. CICO
of course it does. My 6'4 husband will most definitely require more calories than my 5'2 self assuming our activity level is the same7 -
OK, fake woman aside. I eat anywhere between 2000-3000 calories/day. I also run anywhere from 4 - 7 miles/day and walk a bit. I am 59 years old, have been here for a few years and have been on maintenance for over 2 years. My weight stays constant. Height has nothing to do with anything. CICO
of course it does. My 6'4 husband will most definitely require more calories than my 5'2 self assuming our activity level is the same
Do you weigh the same?
Because this is the brunt of the question. According to calorie calculators, a taller person will require more calories than a shorter person-- even if all their other stats are the same (sex,age,weight, etc)4 -
OK, fake woman aside. I eat anywhere between 2000-3000 calories/day. I also run anywhere from 4 - 7 miles/day and walk a bit. I am 59 years old, have been here for a few years and have been on maintenance for over 2 years. My weight stays constant. Height has nothing to do with anything. CICO
Height has a lot to do with energy demands...11 -
OK, fake woman aside. I eat anywhere between 2000-3000 calories/day. I also run anywhere from 4 - 7 miles/day and walk a bit. I am 59 years old, have been here for a few years and have been on maintenance for over 2 years. My weight stays constant. Height has nothing to do with anything. CICO
Interesting point about height...I don't see why it in and of itself should influence CO other than through its correlation to weight. Weight matters and the amount of muscle you have matters but yeah I don't know that the distance from the ground the top of your head matters. Maybe there is something I'm not thinking of though.3 -
There was a time when my MFP friends would have pinged me to let me know early on about this inevitable dumpster fire of a thread.
Instead, I had to stumble on it myself from the RFT (which I seldom even glance at since it's usually filled w/ CCF&G nonsense).
So first, I am so very disappointed in my so-called MFP "friends". Each of you should be ashamed of yourselves. And second, I'm looking forward to reading through this later today, hopefully reviving memories from a simpler time of how MFP used to be.13
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