Scale stuck for 3 weeks
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stanmann571 wrote: »mochamommy wrote: »
Height 5’6.5” ish. One dr says I’m. 5”7’ one says 5’6. 1/2Silentpadna wrote: »Your post says the scale is stuck. You say you are eating 1300 calories....and workout 2 hours a day. Before going into anything else, and without looking at your stats....you haven't mentioned them. I would be shocked if 1300 isn't an adequate or even extreme deficit. The scale is not moving because either:
1) you are holding water due to added stress (likely),
2) you are eating more than you think (also probably likely) or
3) Both
Working out more is not going to be the answer here. You have not mentioned your height, current weight, goal weight or age. So there is no way to tell where your deficit is. Perhaps you can provide those. Nobody has to work out more than even 1 hour in a day to lose weight (or even at all for that matter). You just have to eat less than you burn.
Stress = hormone reaction, water retention, some (minor) metabolism slowing and all kinds of bad things. Adding more workout and less sleep will only exacerbate that. Furthermore, if you do lose the weight you want when you do that stuff, will you be able to keep it up during maintenance? How would you know?
Lastly, you're going to have to prioritize. I would put sleep above working out and above cleaning up. If you are working out, sleep is where the magic happens. That's when muscles recover (and build if you're doing that).
Please take the sensible advice offered on this thread - even if it's not mine. Best wishes to you.
Weight 151. Will not drop damn it
Goal weight 140
Age 45
That's a healthy weight.
Why do you want to lose weight? Is there a specific health concern that will benefit from going from a high normal/healthy weight to a lower weight?
Sick of having a fat poochy belly in a bathing suit. Sick of thigh spread when I sit down. Tired of having to angle my face right and not smile fully to assure I have no double chin in pictures. Tired of having my mom stare at me and ask if I’m sure I want to eat that
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Cortisol causes water retention. You should try to better manage your stress levels and get some sleep...5
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mochamommy wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »mochamommy wrote: »
Height 5’6.5” ish. One dr says I’m. 5”7’ one says 5’6. 1/2Silentpadna wrote: »Your post says the scale is stuck. You say you are eating 1300 calories....and workout 2 hours a day. Before going into anything else, and without looking at your stats....you haven't mentioned them. I would be shocked if 1300 isn't an adequate or even extreme deficit. The scale is not moving because either:
1) you are holding water due to added stress (likely),
2) you are eating more than you think (also probably likely) or
3) Both
Working out more is not going to be the answer here. You have not mentioned your height, current weight, goal weight or age. So there is no way to tell where your deficit is. Perhaps you can provide those. Nobody has to work out more than even 1 hour in a day to lose weight (or even at all for that matter). You just have to eat less than you burn.
Stress = hormone reaction, water retention, some (minor) metabolism slowing and all kinds of bad things. Adding more workout and less sleep will only exacerbate that. Furthermore, if you do lose the weight you want when you do that stuff, will you be able to keep it up during maintenance? How would you know?
Lastly, you're going to have to prioritize. I would put sleep above working out and above cleaning up. If you are working out, sleep is where the magic happens. That's when muscles recover (and build if you're doing that).
Please take the sensible advice offered on this thread - even if it's not mine. Best wishes to you.
Weight 151. Will not drop damn it
Goal weight 140
Age 45
That's a healthy weight.
Why do you want to lose weight? Is there a specific health concern that will benefit from going from a high normal/healthy weight to a lower weight?
Sick of having a fat poochy belly in a bathing suit. Sick of thigh spread when I sit down. Tired of having to angle my face right and not smile fully to assure I have no double chin in pictures. Tired of having my mom stare at me and ask if I’m sure I want to eat that
EVERYBODY's thighs spread when they sit down. I have a double chin in pictures with the wrong angle. Poochy belly - didn't you say you had four kids (or was that a different thread)?
Your mom sounds toxic.
Maybe therapy would be better than more gym time.29 -
You seem to be punishing yourself. Why? Weightloss/fitness should not be a punishment.
You look great in your profile pic. Maybe you should look into Re-comp rather than trying to lose more weight.
Cut the excercise get some more sleep it is really really important. It helps your body repair itself and does all kinds of wonderful things to your brain.
Ignore your mum. You are doing this for you. Take the advice given above from the people who know about these things.
Learn to love yourself and care for your body and it will respond accordingly.
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mochamommy wrote: »
Height 5’6.5” ish. One dr says I’m. 5”7’ one says 5’6. 1/2Silentpadna wrote: »Your post says the scale is stuck. You say you are eating 1300 calories....and workout 2 hours a day. Before going into anything else, and without looking at your stats....you haven't mentioned them. I would be shocked if 1300 isn't an adequate or even extreme deficit. The scale is not moving because either:
1) you are holding water due to added stress (likely),
2) you are eating more than you think (also probably likely) or
3) Both
Working out more is not going to be the answer here. You have not mentioned your height, current weight, goal weight or age. So there is no way to tell where your deficit is. Perhaps you can provide those. Nobody has to work out more than even 1 hour in a day to lose weight (or even at all for that matter). You just have to eat less than you burn.
Stress = hormone reaction, water retention, some (minor) metabolism slowing and all kinds of bad things. Adding more workout and less sleep will only exacerbate that. Furthermore, if you do lose the weight you want when you do that stuff, will you be able to keep it up during maintenance? How would you know?
Lastly, you're going to have to prioritize. I would put sleep above working out and above cleaning up. If you are working out, sleep is where the magic happens. That's when muscles recover (and build if you're doing that).
Please take the sensible advice offered on this thread - even if it's not mine. Best wishes to you.
Weight 151. Will not drop damn it
Goal weight 140
Age 45
And what do you have your activity level and rate of loss set at? At a minimum activity should be lightly active for what you’ve described, and rate of loss should be 0.5 lb/week. Are you using a food scale?
You’re focusing on the wrong things and setting up a self fulfilling prophecy with an extreme approach that results in burnout. Any weight lost will likely come back because the means to the end is so extreme it’s unsustainable.12 -
WinoGelato wrote: »mochamommy wrote: »
Height 5’6.5” ish. One dr says I’m. 5”7’ one says 5’6. 1/2Silentpadna wrote: »Your post says the scale is stuck. You say you are eating 1300 calories....and workout 2 hours a day. Before going into anything else, and without looking at your stats....you haven't mentioned them. I would be shocked if 1300 isn't an adequate or even extreme deficit. The scale is not moving because either:
1) you are holding water due to added stress (likely),
2) you are eating more than you think (also probably likely) or
3) Both
Working out more is not going to be the answer here. You have not mentioned your height, current weight, goal weight or age. So there is no way to tell where your deficit is. Perhaps you can provide those. Nobody has to work out more than even 1 hour in a day to lose weight (or even at all for that matter). You just have to eat less than you burn.
Stress = hormone reaction, water retention, some (minor) metabolism slowing and all kinds of bad things. Adding more workout and less sleep will only exacerbate that. Furthermore, if you do lose the weight you want when you do that stuff, will you be able to keep it up during maintenance? How would you know?
Lastly, you're going to have to prioritize. I would put sleep above working out and above cleaning up. If you are working out, sleep is where the magic happens. That's when muscles recover (and build if you're doing that).
Please take the sensible advice offered on this thread - even if it's not mine. Best wishes to you.
Weight 151. Will not drop damn it
Goal weight 140
Age 45
And what do you have your activity level and rate of loss set at? At a minimum activity should be lightly active for what you’ve described, and rate of loss should be 0.5 lb/week. Are you using a food scale?
You’re focusing on the wrong things and setting up a self fulfilling prophecy with an extreme approach that results in burnout. Any weight lost will likely come back because the means to the end is so extreme it’s unsustainable.
This needs to be bolded.7 -
I put your stats in with .5 lb loss per week and your minimum calories should be 1410. That is assuming you are at a sedentary job. With the amount of exercise you do (which is excessive) you could eat much more than 1400 calories and still lose weight. You need to stop stressing your body so much, then you will probably find that you can lose, slowly. But you really don't need to lose the last 10 vanity pounds. Ignore what your mother says to you.6
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mochamommy wrote: »
Height 5’6.5” ish. One dr says I’m. 5”7’ one says 5’6. 1/2Silentpadna wrote: »Your post says the scale is stuck. You say you are eating 1300 calories....and workout 2 hours a day. Before going into anything else, and without looking at your stats....you haven't mentioned them. I would be shocked if 1300 isn't an adequate or even extreme deficit. The scale is not moving because either:
1) you are holding water due to added stress (likely),
2) you are eating more than you think (also probably likely) or
3) Both
Working out more is not going to be the answer here. You have not mentioned your height, current weight, goal weight or age. So there is no way to tell where your deficit is. Perhaps you can provide those. Nobody has to work out more than even 1 hour in a day to lose weight (or even at all for that matter). You just have to eat less than you burn.
Stress = hormone reaction, water retention, some (minor) metabolism slowing and all kinds of bad things. Adding more workout and less sleep will only exacerbate that. Furthermore, if you do lose the weight you want when you do that stuff, will you be able to keep it up during maintenance? How would you know?
Lastly, you're going to have to prioritize. I would put sleep above working out and above cleaning up. If you are working out, sleep is where the magic happens. That's when muscles recover (and build if you're doing that).
Please take the sensible advice offered on this thread - even if it's not mine. Best wishes to you.
Weight 151. Will not drop damn it
Goal weight 140
Age 45
Thank you for responding.
Those stats help. Now, you have 10 pounds, give or take, to lose, which you don't really even have to. It's going to take awhile if you want to do this right. If you were completely sedentary, no exercise and on point with your logging, 1300 calories would be close to appropriate for losing .5 to 1 pound per week. With the exercise you describe, if you were logging accurately, 1300 is not enough.
You are normal weight right now. At this point, I would highly recommend taking your focus off of the scale and instead put it into your shape. Find a good lifting program for you. There are many. If you focus on losing fat and gaining or maintaining muscle, my bet is that you might find you look better at 155 with muscle than the image you have of yourself at 140. But only you can do that.
Cardio will help you aerobically, but you run the risk of losing fat and muscle together if you overdo it. Wouldn't you like to lose fat to show muscle. If you increase your deficit to the extreme, you run the risk of being at your goal weight and still being flabby (relatively speaking).
Those with the life-changing transformation take their time and build it to last. The winner is not the one who makes the dramatic changes the quickest. The winner is the one who makes the dramatic changes in the healthiest way. Take your time and you'll be happy you did.9 -
mochamommy wrote: »I changed up my workout and added interval classes, power lifting classes, and barre. I still run and bike. I was just running and biking. I’m trying to lift more. I went from level 6 on the stationary bike for a workout to level 11 minuum for 45 minutes keeping my hr at about 138 to 165 at all times per hrm. I don’t sleep enough. I workout instead of sleeping. My stress lately is about 12
"I don't sleep enough."
When I have this problem, my weight loss stops cold. You need to get home earlier and sleep more, even if you exercise less. My own solution is to eat at my desk and walk 30 minutes at lunch. (I walk 1.3 - 1.5 miles in that time. ) That 30 minutes does 2 things for me, gets me a de-stress ingredient time during my work day and gives me back the cardio time at the gym later. Good luck8 -
mochamommy wrote: »My question is: how long do you honestly think you can keep up this pace before you burn out? IMHO you are abusing your body by underfueling and denying it the sleep it needs to rejuvenate. Take a deep breath and slow down a bit. Weight loss doesn't happen overnight, just like gaining it didn't happen overnight. Stress and lack of sleep only sabotage your efforts (speaking from experience).
Been working 7 days a week for 5 years in April.
That's not what I was asking. We all know what hard work is. I'm almost 20 years older than you and have worked 12 hours shifts (on a drilling rig) regularly over extended periods of time. Because I was exhausted from my work schedule I didn't even consider that exercise was important to my well being although I did manage some walks as time allowed. We are all just questioning your priorities aside from work and family.
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Sleep is probably more important than that 2nd hour of exercise.14
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janejellyroll wrote: »
The single ingredient thing is not a panacea as many people claim. I have, however, heard it recommended to people at the beginning - not as the way to lose weight, but as a tool or means to an end. That end being that when people tend to do that, they end up eating more nutrient dense foods, which can help. That obviously can't work outside of portion and calorie control, but it is not without benefits.
I don't focus on those types of things, but again, it has merit in that it can "help" with making food choices that enhance the ability to create a deficit. It still has to be in context obviously.2 -
Silentpadna wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
The single ingredient thing is not a panacea as many people claim. I have, however, heard it recommended to people at the beginning - not as the way to lose weight, but as a tool or means to an end. That end being that when people tend to do that, they end up eating more nutrient dense foods, which can help. That obviously can't work outside of portion and calorie control, but it is not without benefits.
I don't focus on those types of things, but again, it has merit in that it can "help" with making food choices that enhance the ability to create a deficit. It still has to be in context obviously.
After years and years of following rules like this in the hope they would create weight loss, I guess I just wish that when people offered advice that is designed to get people to a certain end, they would just recommend the end instead of the rule that will sometimes back people into a certain end. If eating nutrient-dense foods is the recommendation, why not just state that?10 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
The single ingredient thing is not a panacea as many people claim. I have, however, heard it recommended to people at the beginning - not as the way to lose weight, but as a tool or means to an end. That end being that when people tend to do that, they end up eating more nutrient dense foods, which can help. That obviously can't work outside of portion and calorie control, but it is not without benefits.
I don't focus on those types of things, but again, it has merit in that it can "help" with making food choices that enhance the ability to create a deficit. It still has to be in context obviously.
After years and years of following rules like this in the hope they would create weight loss, I guess I just wish that when people offered advice that is designed to get people to a certain end, they would just recommend the end instead of the rule that will sometimes back people into a certain end. If eating nutrient-dense foods is the recommendation, why not just state that?
Probably the whole "one ingredient" prescription is pure woo/magical thinking as far as real justification, on the part of many who propose it.
But, if I were to speculate and seek for some kind of minimal rational basis, I think the point would be "whole foods" (another ill-defined term) more than "nutrient dense" foods. I remember reading a very small study (sorry, no cite) suggesting that "whole" (less "processed") foods had a slightly higher calorie cost in digestion, via TEF. The point is not "processed"/"unprocessed" in a pure sense either - IIRC, one of the food component differences used in the test was a hearty whole grain bread in one case vs. regular mainstream white bread in the other, and the degree of processed-ness isn't that different beween the two. There's a little more digestive work to do, though.
Protein powder, for example, is nutrient dense, but I'm guessing the workload to digest/metabolize is on the lighter side compared to many common "one ingredient" or "whole" or "minimally processed" protein sources.
It's majoring in the minors, anyway: Won't break a plateau, unless through satiation and compliance.
Well, I guess there could be that rare plateau where more fiber in "single ingredient" foods could do the trick! 2 -
mochamommy wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »mochamommy wrote: »
Height 5’6.5” ish. One dr says I’m. 5”7’ one says 5’6. 1/2Silentpadna wrote: »Your post says the scale is stuck. You say you are eating 1300 calories....and workout 2 hours a day. Before going into anything else, and without looking at your stats....you haven't mentioned them. I would be shocked if 1300 isn't an adequate or even extreme deficit. The scale is not moving because either:
1) you are holding water due to added stress (likely),
2) you are eating more than you think (also probably likely) or
3) Both
Working out more is not going to be the answer here. You have not mentioned your height, current weight, goal weight or age. So there is no way to tell where your deficit is. Perhaps you can provide those. Nobody has to work out more than even 1 hour in a day to lose weight (or even at all for that matter). You just have to eat less than you burn.
Stress = hormone reaction, water retention, some (minor) metabolism slowing and all kinds of bad things. Adding more workout and less sleep will only exacerbate that. Furthermore, if you do lose the weight you want when you do that stuff, will you be able to keep it up during maintenance? How would you know?
Lastly, you're going to have to prioritize. I would put sleep above working out and above cleaning up. If you are working out, sleep is where the magic happens. That's when muscles recover (and build if you're doing that).
Please take the sensible advice offered on this thread - even if it's not mine. Best wishes to you.
Weight 151. Will not drop damn it
Goal weight 140
Age 45
That's a healthy weight.
Why do you want to lose weight? Is there a specific health concern that will benefit from going from a high normal/healthy weight to a lower weight?
Sick of having a fat poochy belly in a bathing suit. Sick of thigh spread when I sit down. Tired of having to angle my face right and not smile fully to assure I have no double chin in pictures. Tired of having my mom stare at me and ask if I’m sure I want to eat that
These words are the kind of things folks with eating/exercising disorders say to defend what they are doing to lose weight (under eating and over excercising.) Have you ever been diagnosed with an eating disorder?
If you are going to be exercising so hard you certainly need to not only eat your target calories but also to be eating most if not all of the calories you are burning by excercising.
As for the horrible things your mom says to you about your food choices/your looks; that it is very common for woman/girls with eating disorders to have moms who also focus too much on looks and weight.
I seriously think you should consider counseling to help you prioritize things, developing a healthy relationship with food, and to know when you are going to extremes when it comes to diet and excercise.
As for cleaning and cooking, do you have a husband to help you with your house hold chores and cooking meals. *look into a crock pot perhaps, if you haven't already.
Right now you don't seem quite ready to make the changes you likely need to get healthier. Until you stop defending what you are doing now, and open your mind to better options out there, you are caught in a spiral you may not be able to get out of. Sometimes folks have to hit bottom before they decide to make changes. Hugs.
Hope this post is helpful for you. Many of us here are worried for your well being.
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tinkerbellang83 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »mochamommy wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »mochamommy wrote: »People have to work to make money and pay bills. I have to feed my family by cooking and I want my home to be clean.
All that is understood.
But most people who are spending 15+ uncompensated hours a week commuting don't need supplementary income from working on the weekend.
Goverment jobs don’t pay well. Not much else around here
Government jobs tend to pay plenty well if you manage your lifestyle appropriately. They also come with benefits like Health care and time off for fitness and fitness and lifestyle counseling.
Not in all countries.
And not at all levels of government, even in the U.S. (Government means state, county, city, as well as federal.)0 -
This thread is super weird. The fact that the OP is very specific about what they respond to despite having great advice across the board just makes me uncomfortable.
OP, if you can find a place for it in your busy schedule, consider taking some time to talk to a therapist. I don’t think forcing yourself to exercise for so long on top of such a busy schedule is healthy, and the fact that you’ve outright ignored every poster telling you such adds weight to this. Either you have a genuine problem and need to seek help before you burn yourself to the ground or like someone else said, bragplaining.
Either way, you don’t owe us an explanation but you owe it to yourself to take better care of your body.8 -
I also wanna say to the OP: maybe reconsider if your problems are actually to do with your weight or if that’s just a manifestation of a deeper issue.
I don’t know you at all so my assumptions are just that, purely assumptions. But anyone who feels the need to fill every waking second of their life with activity says to me that they’re hiding from something they don’t wanna face. What you’re doing right now isn’t living, what you’re doing is punishing yourself whilst simultaneously convincing yourself that everything you’re doing is either necessary to live or mandatory for happiness. It’s not. But if you stop - if you allow yourself time to rest - what then? If that thought scares you then I think therein is the problem, and that’s something you need to work on first before you even begin to consider your weight.10 -
OP, eat more than 1300 calories every day. And don't obsess over the gym so much, It clearly doesn't help you.
I lose 1- 2 pounds a week and I eat 1200 to 2000 calories a day. Some days more. I alternate.
One day I eat 1200, the next day I eat 2000, the next day I eat 1500...and so on.
Then I go to the gym and exercise maybe 4 days a week. But I also have an average of 15000 steps a day from work and other activities. I live in the City so getting walking in is easy.
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OP, you have very little time and you work a lot. People have responded to the sports and diet aspects. Thus a few other things:
- can you find work closer to where you live? Even if it earns less it might still be about the same net pay if you don't need to pay for those ridiculously long commutes. Otherwise, move closer to work? The same is still true: money saving by keeping the commute down. Maybe you don't even need a car or public transport ticket then.
- cook simple food! Buy a few fresh ingredients: seasonal veggies, some starches, some meat or fish and cook simple, quick dishes from them. Cook bigger portions and warm up the leftovers for the coming day(s). My cooking never takes more than 30 minutes including cutting and making spice mixes, marinades and the likes.
- Bring food to work that is superfast to prepare. I usually bring fruit, vegetables and 5 slices of bread with simple things like a slice of salami or other things. Takes 5 minutes to prepare and pack in the morning.
- A house doesn't need cleaning every day. Hey, you're not even home to actually enjoy is, thus why waste so much time on it?
- Btw, if moving is an option, a small flat is superfast to clean. My 40m^2 flat needs about 90 minutes per fortnight if I clean it, though I've outsourced it to a cleaner who just needs 60 minutes. Costs me £20 per 4 weeks.
- MORE SLEEP! again, get your priorities right, but sleep clearly is a priority for you right now!3
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