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Has Paleo had its day?
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Wish the paleo warriors that posted here actually come back to post about their actual experience to convey to others. I'm sure there are some that are still doing a form of it, but there were lots that used to be so argumentative about it and saying they'd never go back to eating processed foods, grains or dairy.
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I don't think Paleo ever stood a chance. If "feeling good" requires too many rules, effort, or money without enough weight loss people will stop caring.
Keto is going to be hard to topple, IMO, because of the water weight loss and how so many people do not seem to know what that is. It is still so common to want quick results with minimal effort. The additional "magic" of keto will, no doubt, fade but not completely since ACV, cleanses, and detoxes are still around.
We are probably due for another round of a miracle diet drug with the resulting pop-up weight loss clinics though. Weight loss and class action lawsuits for everyone!
Why does it need to be toppled?
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tennisdude2004 wrote: »I don't think Paleo ever stood a chance. If "feeling good" requires too many rules, effort, or money without enough weight loss people will stop caring.
Keto is going to be hard to topple, IMO, because of the water weight loss and how so many people do not seem to know what that is. It is still so common to want quick results with minimal effort. The additional "magic" of keto will, no doubt, fade but not completely since ACV, cleanses, and detoxes are still around.
We are probably due for another round of a miracle diet drug with the resulting pop-up weight loss clinics though. Weight loss and class action lawsuits for everyone!
Why does it need to be toppled?
Because it's currently a faddy craze. It's best for many if it gets downgraded from magic back to preference and need status, just like any other diet. As it stands, it's rampant with misinformation and unrealistic expectations.15 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »I don't think Paleo ever stood a chance. If "feeling good" requires too many rules, effort, or money without enough weight loss people will stop caring.
Keto is going to be hard to topple, IMO, because of the water weight loss and how so many people do not seem to know what that is. It is still so common to want quick results with minimal effort. The additional "magic" of keto will, no doubt, fade but not completely since ACV, cleanses, and detoxes are still around.
We are probably due for another round of a miracle diet drug with the resulting pop-up weight loss clinics though. Weight loss and class action lawsuits for everyone!
Why does it need to be toppled?
Because it's currently a faddy craze. It's best for many if it gets downgraded from magic back to preference and need status, just like any other diet. As it stands, it's rampant with misinformation and unrealistic expectations.
Well it's certainly getting the 'welcome' treatment from the MFP regulars that's for sure.
But I'm confident you guys will topple it soon enough, then it will be on the toppling the DASH diet no doubt
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Wish the paleo warriors that posted here actually come back to post about their actual experience to convey to others. I'm sure there are some that are still doing a form of it, but there were lots that used to be so argumentative about it and saying they'd never go back to eating processed foods, grains or dairy.
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Pretty sure most of them found other forums and diet sites that were a little more welcoming.13 -
I'm liking this thread. Good way to farm woos.8
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amusedmonkey wrote: »I'm liking this thread. Good way to farm woos.
They are nice to collect.. Especially when you only have woos but no posts rebutting your opinion.11 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »I was thinking the same.
I was also thinking, what is next.
I figure somebody will coin a catchy, flashy name for combining keto and IF, since that's already a very trendy combo right now, and make it into a "program" all its own. It would sell megatons of books, diet programs, supplements, website clicks, etc.
Ketif. Patent pending.11 -
Paleo isn't hard to understand you just haven't looked into enough from the sounds of it. Eat meat and veggies ... kind of simple if you ask me. There are other things you can eat as well but that's all there really is to it.
Keto is the "in thing", I can't do it cause of IBS but if either program works for you or you find it easy to follow go for it.8 -
The issue with keto is that people choose it by default as their first attempt of losing weight, not because it's their personal preference, but based on hearsay. I would be curious to know what is the percentage of people who stick with keto for more than 2 years.9
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The issue with keto is that people choose it by default as their first attempt of losing weight, not because it's their personal preference, but based on hearsay. I would be curious to know what is the percentage of people who stick with keto for more than 2 years.
I was thinking about this thread while the system was under repair. Paleo/primal and all of the rest of it. If only 5% of dieters can maintain after 5 years, in that 95% that are starting over on a another diet are paleo people who've eaten it all back. You won't hear from them.6 -
I am creating the next fad diet with my friend. She is Indian, so she will be the mystical face of our new "secrets of India" diet. It will involve chanting and chakras.
Obviously, you will be told that your weight is not your fault, because your chakras are misaligned.
If you purchase our soon-to-be-written book, you will learn the secret of thinness.
Either that, or we'll start a new religion. There's cash in both, methinks...8 -
annaskiski wrote: »I am creating the next fad diet with my friend. She is Indian, so she will be the mystical face of our new "secrets of India" diet. It will involve chanting and chakras.
Obviously, you will be told that your weight is not your fault, because your chakras are misaligned.
If you purchase our soon-to-be-written book, you will learn the secret of thinness.
Either that, or we'll start a new religion. There's cash in both, methinks...
Crystals. Don't forget the crystals. Big bucks in those puppies.
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It'll probably come around again in some form or another as all of the fads do. A few years ago I'd see lots of magazines and cookbooks and whatnot at the grocery checkout...not so much these days...mostly keto stuff right now.1
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annaskiski wrote: »I am creating the next fad diet with my friend. She is Indian, so she will be the mystical face of our new "secrets of India" diet. It will involve chanting and chakras.
Obviously, you will be told that your weight is not your fault, because your chakras are misaligned.
If you purchase our soon-to-be-written book, you will learn the secret of thinness.
Either that, or we'll start a new religion. There's cash in both, methinks...
And some magical drink--I was at a bookstore once with a guy at a card table in the back selling tiny cups of "Chakra-Clearing Water". One sip and all your ills would be cured! Just ignore that annoying "distilled water" label on the plastic gallon jug sitting next to him.....3 -
@tennisdude2004 Don't take the woo's personally. You can't.
I did a paleo/primal/keto/IF combo/BPC. I ate all of the fat, fat, fat. Fat is where it's at. I ate 85% fat and 10% protein and 5% carbs in the form of a frozen spinach ball and ball of wax.
When you come off the keto high, do you really believe you can eat 85% for the rest of your life to maintain what you are doing now. Can I get a witness, when you come off this protocol your body will stack the weight back on like pancakes and taking it off again will be as slow as molasses. Unless you throw yourself into another cycle of keto for giant month hunks of time but with each keto excursion the heart grows faint.
You wake up one day and realize that this cannot go on forever. There are some people here that have garnered respect from everybody. They are not playing games but genuinely want to get the truth out there. Keto is a temporary fix. Start thinking about a strategy that will help keep the positive side effects you like now with your weight and muscle mass.
So much of paleo is absolute malarkey. During the long winter months, the tribes on the plains, northern Canada and elsewhere lived with about 9 months of snow. Lakes and rivers were frozen. There was no fishing going on and hunting for wildgame during blizzards and -40 below temps were a real hardship. Bulletproof coffee and coconut oil for the big WIN...we haven't got the time.
No one owns the term and word paleo. The truth has not been told what those people went through to survive. Keto is temporary. I know a woman who did it for over a year. Wrote up her big success story and then went on a trip to Europe. She ate her way through several countries and rebounded back with every pound plus friends.
She kept trying to get back UP on that high horse and keto wagon but she lost heart.
Woo's = Boo's. They do. But there are some here who really do have your best interest at heart.
Open. Mind. Insert. Possibilities.
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snickerscharlie wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »I am creating the next fad diet with my friend. She is Indian, so she will be the mystical face of our new "secrets of India" diet. It will involve chanting and chakras.
Obviously, you will be told that your weight is not your fault, because your chakras are misaligned.
If you purchase our soon-to-be-written book, you will learn the secret of thinness.
Either that, or we'll start a new religion. There's cash in both, methinks...
Crystals. Don't forget the crystals. Big bucks in those puppies.
Wasn't this an episode of Absolutely Fabulous?1 -
@tennisdude2004 Don't take the woo's personally. You can't.
I did a paleo/primal/keto/IF combo/BPC. I ate all of the fat, fat, fat. Fat is where it's at. I ate 85% fat and 10% protein and 5% carbs in the form of a frozen spinach ball and ball of wax.
When you come off the keto high, do you really believe you can eat 85% for the rest of your life to maintain what you are doing now. Can I get a witness, when you come off this protocol your body will stack the weight back on like pancakes and taking it off again will be as slow as molasses. Unless you throw yourself into another cycle of keto for giant month hunks of time but with each keto excursion the heart grows faint.
You wake up one day and realize that this cannot go on forever. There are some people here that have garnered respect from everybody. They are not playing games but genuinely want to get the truth out there. Keto is a temporary fix. Start thinking about a strategy that will help keep the positive side effects you like now with your weight and muscle mass.
So much of paleo is absolute malarkey. During the long winter months, the tribes on the plains, northern Canada and elsewhere lived with about 9 months of snow. Lakes and rivers were frozen. There was no fishing going on and hunting for wildgame during blizzards and -40 below temps were a real hardship. Bulletproof coffee and coconut oil for the big WIN...we haven't got the time.
No one owns the term and word paleo. The truth has not been told what those people went through to survive. Keto is temporary. I know a woman who did it for over a year. Wrote up her big success story and then went on a trip to Europe. She ate her way through several countries and rebounded back with every pound plus friends.
She kept trying to get back UP on that high horse and keto wagon but she lost heart.
Woo's = Boo's. They do. But there are some here who really do have your best interest at heart.
Open. Mind. Insert. Possibilities.
I think both Paleo and The Paleo Diet have both been trademarked
Keto might have been a temporary fix for you but for many it’s a gateway into LCHF and it a permanent diet model for millions.
I personally do not eat in a VLCHF model, but I certainly prefer LCHF to a higher carb diet.
I agree an open mind approach is always best.11 -
No one owns the word paleo. They may have trademarked a diet but no owns the paleozoic era. That ended with the largest extinction event in the history of the earth. Paleo peoples. Sigh and alas.2
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Paleo had it's era....which ended ~10,000 years ago.
I'm becoming in increasingly convinced that when we remove sophisticated religious structure men will replace these with unsophisticated religious structures. Why you find such fervor and evangelism behind recent lifestyle converts. It's the inability to question - the fundamentalism - that is the problem.15
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