Any other ENDOMORPHS out there?
rueruechika86
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Recently, I've been learning a lot about somatotypes and I discovered that I'm an endomorph. This has been a game changer for me. Now I understand why my metabolism is slower and why it'll take A LOT more effort for me to look ripped. I've also learned that a high fat/protein-low carb lifestyle is best for me.
Has anyone else come terms with their "curvy" proportions?
Has anyone else come terms with their "curvy" proportions?
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Somatotypes have been debunked for years. It's a bunch of woo.28
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The good news is, somatotypes are bunk and don't have anything to do with your weight loss. They were made up by a psychologist in the 1940s by looking at pictures of people and thinking of how they made him feel.
So as long as you accurately log your calories and eat less of them than you burn, you'll successfully lose weight.16 -
Somatotypes are complete nonsense and even the far fetched intent behind their creation was nothing to do with metabolism or diet.
You aren't a separate species you are just a human.12 -
Somatotypes are complete nonsense and even the far fetched intent behind their creation was nothing to do with metabolism or diet.
You aren't a separate species you are just a human.
yep I agree .this the study was done on body types and what types of personality each body type had,somewhere down the line some idiot thought hey I will use this to tell people it has to do with weight gain,loss,building muscle,etc. probably was used so they could sell a product or idea. so OP somatypes have nothing to do with anything that has to do with fitness,weight loss/gain or building muscle.
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rueruechika86 wrote: »Recently, I've been learning a lot about somatotypes and I discovered that I'm an endomorph. This has been a game changer for me. Now I understand why my metabolism is slower and why it'll take A LOT more effort for me to look ripped. I've also learned that a high fat/protein-low carb lifestyle is best for me.
Has anyone else come terms with their "curvy" proportions?
it can take years of training to look ripped. you dont get that way overnight and you dont get that way in a few months,If somatypes where a thing then I would fall in between all 3 categories.I have characteristics of all those types. but since they have nothing to do with anything other than personality then I dont even worry about it. looking ripped is also about diet as well. its going to depend on your goals on if you want to gain weight,lose weight or maintain. Im curvy I have a big butt,hips and thighs and a smaller waist. I know that even with lifting heavy and changing how my body looks I still will be curvy,I cant change that.is there anything you are trying to accomplish besides being ripped? are you wanting to gain muscle or lose fat? what are your goals?1 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Somatotypes are complete nonsense and even the far fetched intent behind their creation was nothing to do with metabolism or diet.
You aren't a separate species you are just a human.
yep I agree .this the study was done on body types and what types of personality each body type had,somewhere down the line some idiot thought hey I will use this to tell people it has to do with weight gain,loss,building muscle,etc. probably was used so they could sell a product or idea. so OP somatypes have nothing to do with anything that has to do with fitness,weight loss/gain or building muscle.
If I remember it had links to Nazi ideology and was just as a justification for ethnic clensing. So stay away from that. Don't even touch it with a long stick.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Somatotypes are complete nonsense and even the far fetched intent behind their creation was nothing to do with metabolism or diet.
You aren't a separate species you are just a human.
yep I agree .this the study was done on body types and what types of personality each body type had,somewhere down the line some idiot thought hey I will use this to tell people it has to do with weight gain,loss,building muscle,etc. probably was used so they could sell a product or idea. so OP somatypes have nothing to do with anything that has to do with fitness,weight loss/gain or building muscle.
If I remember it had links to Nazi ideology and was just as a justification for ethnic clensing. So stay away from that. Don't even touch it with a long stick.
yeah not wanting to get into those kinds of debates thats for sure lol. but what I read had nothing to do with that bit but hey anything is possible.0 -
If I remember it had links to Nazi ideology and was just as a justification for ethnic clensing. So stay away from that. Don't even touch it with a long stick.
This may be the paper you read (or something based on this paper): https://www.utpjournals.press/doi/pdf/10.3138/cbmh.24.2.291
tl;dr from the article: William Sheldon, the guy who invented somatotypes, also believed that people with certain somatotypes were more prone to criminal or deviant behavior, low intelligence, and various other bad traits (he called this theory "constitutional psychology"). What he saw as "good" body types were most common among white people of European descent, and he used his research to justify his sexist and eugenic ideas.
Somatotypes are debunked science at best, and grounds for some horrifying beliefs at worst.
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OP lucky for you all anyone needs to lose weight is a calorie deficit and patience
As others have said, somatotypes aren't really a thing. However, there is something to be said for recognizing your proportions and working with them, not against them. 6 -
Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.31
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rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
The good news is: You can get ripped (if that's what you want).
The bad news: It will be really, really a lot of work, and take a long time. Like it does for any/every woman.
Curvy is a good thing. Me, I'm built like a 14-year-old boy: Wide shoulders, no hips, no booty. That's a good thing, too (but not a somatotype).
Best wishes!15 -
rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
I love your attitude! Kudos to you for being open to different thoughts. There is so much misinformation out there in the media/diet industry. As for your macro split, do you feel more sated when eating high fat/protein, and low carb? Or is this something you haven't really tried yet? Personally, I find it easier to make smaller changes over time, rather than trying to completely change my eating habits in one fell swoop. Too easy to give up when you're missing all the foods you enjoy.
In the end, accuracy in logging is going to be very helpful. There are several areas where logging can be inaccurate. If you want more help, just as. There are so many here who are willing to help out.7 -
rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
The good news is: You can get ripped (if that's what you want).
The bad news: It will be really, really a lot of work, and take a long time. Like it does for any/every woman.
Curvy is a good thing. Me, I'm built like a 14-year-old boy: Wide shoulders, no hips, no booty. That's a good thing, too (but not a somatotype).
Best wishes!
I would not even fit into somatypes
I have tiny wrists, wide shoulders, tend to have a 2-4-pack without doing anything for it, but also have a very wide pelvis bone, a very curvy/well padded bum and legs. <shrugs>0 -
rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
The good news is: You can get ripped (if that's what you want).
The bad news: It will be really, really a lot of work, and take a long time. Like it does for any/every woman.
Curvy is a good thing. Me, I'm built like a 14-year-old boy: Wide shoulders, no hips, no booty. That's a good thing, too (but not a somatotype).
Best wishes!
I would not even fit into somatypes
I have tiny wrists, wide shoulders, tend to have a 2-4-pack without doing anything for it, but also have a very wide pelvis bone, a very curvy/well padded bum and legs. <shrugs>
I think that either makes you a bank robber or someone who helps little old ladies across the street. I'm not too clear on it, but if it's the first one, I promise not to tell anyone. 5 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
The good news is: You can get ripped (if that's what you want).
The bad news: It will be really, really a lot of work, and take a long time. Like it does for any/every woman.
Curvy is a good thing. Me, I'm built like a 14-year-old boy: Wide shoulders, no hips, no booty. That's a good thing, too (but not a somatotype).
Best wishes!
I would not even fit into somatypes
I have tiny wrists, wide shoulders, tend to have a 2-4-pack without doing anything for it, but also have a very wide pelvis bone, a very curvy/well padded bum and legs. <shrugs>
I think that either makes you a bank robber or someone who helps little old ladies across the street. I'm not too clear on it, but if it's the first one, I promise not to tell anyone.
Maybe both? I can also fold my hands sideways and stick them in very tiny holes 
That's my secret super power. Oh well, us ladies all look different. Would be boring otherwise, right?
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nutmegoreo wrote: »rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
The good news is: You can get ripped (if that's what you want).
The bad news: It will be really, really a lot of work, and take a long time. Like it does for any/every woman.
Curvy is a good thing. Me, I'm built like a 14-year-old boy: Wide shoulders, no hips, no booty. That's a good thing, too (but not a somatotype).
Best wishes!
I would not even fit into somatypes
I have tiny wrists, wide shoulders, tend to have a 2-4-pack without doing anything for it, but also have a very wide pelvis bone, a very curvy/well padded bum and legs. <shrugs>
I think that either makes you a bank robber or someone who helps little old ladies across the street. I'm not too clear on it, but if it's the first one, I promise not to tell anyone.
Maybe both? I can also fold my hands sideways and stick them in very tiny holes That's my secret super power. Oh well, us ladies all look different. Would be boring otherwise, right?
I don't have a superpower. Unless snarly sarcasm counts?
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nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
The good news is: You can get ripped (if that's what you want).
The bad news: It will be really, really a lot of work, and take a long time. Like it does for any/every woman.
Curvy is a good thing. Me, I'm built like a 14-year-old boy: Wide shoulders, no hips, no booty. That's a good thing, too (but not a somatotype).
Best wishes!
I would not even fit into somatypes
I have tiny wrists, wide shoulders, tend to have a 2-4-pack without doing anything for it, but also have a very wide pelvis bone, a very curvy/well padded bum and legs. <shrugs>
I think that either makes you a bank robber or someone who helps little old ladies across the street. I'm not too clear on it, but if it's the first one, I promise not to tell anyone.
Maybe both? I can also fold my hands sideways and stick them in very tiny holes That's my secret super power. Oh well, us ladies all look different. Would be boring otherwise, right?
I don't have a superpower. Unless snarly sarcasm counts?
It's one of the strongest forces in the known universe.7 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
The good news is: You can get ripped (if that's what you want).
The bad news: It will be really, really a lot of work, and take a long time. Like it does for any/every woman.
Curvy is a good thing. Me, I'm built like a 14-year-old boy: Wide shoulders, no hips, no booty. That's a good thing, too (but not a somatotype).
Best wishes!
I would not even fit into somatypes
I have tiny wrists, wide shoulders, tend to have a 2-4-pack without doing anything for it, but also have a very wide pelvis bone, a very curvy/well padded bum and legs. <shrugs>
I think that either makes you a bank robber or someone who helps little old ladies across the street. I'm not too clear on it, but if it's the first one, I promise not to tell anyone.
Maybe both? I can also fold my hands sideways and stick them in very tiny holes That's my secret super power. Oh well, us ladies all look different. Would be boring otherwise, right?
I don't have a superpower. Unless snarly sarcasm counts?
That's what holds the universe together
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nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
The good news is: You can get ripped (if that's what you want).
The bad news: It will be really, really a lot of work, and take a long time. Like it does for any/every woman.
Curvy is a good thing. Me, I'm built like a 14-year-old boy: Wide shoulders, no hips, no booty. That's a good thing, too (but not a somatotype).
Best wishes!
I would not even fit into somatypes
I have tiny wrists, wide shoulders, tend to have a 2-4-pack without doing anything for it, but also have a very wide pelvis bone, a very curvy/well padded bum and legs. <shrugs>
I think that either makes you a bank robber or someone who helps little old ladies across the street. I'm not too clear on it, but if it's the first one, I promise not to tell anyone.
Maybe both? I can also fold my hands sideways and stick them in very tiny holes That's my secret super power. Oh well, us ladies all look different. Would be boring otherwise, right?
I don't have a superpower. Unless snarly sarcasm counts?
It's one of the strongest forces in the known universe.nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »rueruechika86 wrote: »Well then. Apparently I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the feedback guys.
The good news is: You can get ripped (if that's what you want).
The bad news: It will be really, really a lot of work, and take a long time. Like it does for any/every woman.
Curvy is a good thing. Me, I'm built like a 14-year-old boy: Wide shoulders, no hips, no booty. That's a good thing, too (but not a somatotype).
Best wishes!
I would not even fit into somatypes
I have tiny wrists, wide shoulders, tend to have a 2-4-pack without doing anything for it, but also have a very wide pelvis bone, a very curvy/well padded bum and legs. <shrugs>
I think that either makes you a bank robber or someone who helps little old ladies across the street. I'm not too clear on it, but if it's the first one, I promise not to tell anyone.
Maybe both? I can also fold my hands sideways and stick them in very tiny holes That's my secret super power. Oh well, us ladies all look different. Would be boring otherwise, right?
I don't have a superpower. Unless snarly sarcasm counts?
That's what holds the universe together
Awwwww, yeaaaaaah. To the pillow fort! :laugh:6 -
rueruechika86 wrote: »Recently, I've been learning a lot about somatotypes and I discovered that I'm an endomorph. This has been a game changer for me. Now I understand why my metabolism is slower and why it'll take A LOT more effort for me to look ripped. I've also learned that a high fat/protein-low carb lifestyle is best for me.
Has anyone else come terms with their "curvy" proportions?
Somatotypes aren't a thing.
It takes everyone forever to get ripped because to be ripped requires a very low BF% which is difficult to attain because from an evolutionary standpoint, it's a pretty new thing and not really what our body wants to do.1 -
Hey, OP, I just wanted to say that I think it is great you are looking for ways to get where you want to be and willing to entertain new ideas. Best of luck.3
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Lots of people will say that's not a thing, however I do think there's something to body types. From experience and people I know, there are those with builds that are more bulky and curvy/ wide, and have an easier time gaining both fat and muscle; and others who are either very small-framed and petite or 'long and lean', with narrow waists, hips etc, who seem to not gain weight easily and also have trouble putting on muscle. Asian people are one example - the Asian women I've known are able to eat very large amounts of food while remaining extremely slim, while Asian guys who are trying to build muscle have a much harder time doing so than their, say African American counterparts. Of course there are many exceptions, lifestyle does play a role, and most people are some mix of the body types, but they do exist. I mean, someone like Beyonce or Serena Williams, for instance, will likely never ever look like, say, Jessica Alba or Maria Sharapova, in spite of all these women being in close to optimal shape and having very closely monitored and professionally designed fitness and nutrition programmes30
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Two professional athletes in the same sport, why do they look SO dramatically different? I doubt that Williams purposefully attempts to bulk up in order to look like she does
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nettiklive wrote: »Lots of people will say that's not a thing, however I do think there's something to body types. From experience and people I know, there are those with builds that are more bulky and curvy/ wide, and have an easier time gaining both fat and muscle; and others who are either very small-framed and petite or 'long and lean', with narrow waists, hips etc, who seem to not gain weight easily and also have trouble putting on muscle. Asian people are one example - the Asian women I've known are able to eat very large amounts of food while remaining extremely slim, while Asian guys who are trying to build muscle have a much harder time doing so than their, say African American counterparts. Of course there are many exceptions, lifestyle does play a role, and most people are some mix of the body types, but they do exist. I mean, someone like Beyonce or Serena Williams, for instance, will likely never ever look like, say, Jessica Alba or Maria Sharapova, in spite of all these women being in close to optimal shape and having very closely monitored and professionally designed fitness and nutrition programmes
Believing it doesn't make it true. Genetics plays a large roll in people's shape, I would expect bone structure to be a significant factor, as well as health considerations.4 -
nettiklive wrote: »Lots of people will say that's not a thing, however I do think there's something to body types. From experience and people I know, there are those with builds that are more bulky and curvy/ wide, and have an easier time gaining both fat and muscle; and others who are either very small-framed and petite or 'long and lean', with narrow waists, hips etc, who seem to not gain weight easily and also have trouble putting on muscle. Asian people are one example - the Asian women I've known are able to eat very large amounts of food while remaining extremely slim, while Asian guys who are trying to build muscle have a much harder time doing so than their, say African American counterparts. Of course there are many exceptions, lifestyle does play a role, and most people are some mix of the body types, but they do exist. I mean, someone like Beyonce or Serena Williams, for instance, will likely never ever look like, say, Jessica Alba or Maria Sharapova, in spite of all these women being in close to optimal shape and having very closely monitored and professionally designed fitness and nutrition programmes
What does this have to do with somatypes, though? That genetics create differences in how a person's body looks doesn't mean that somatypes or diets based on them are a real thing.11 -
nettiklive wrote: »Lots of people will say that's not a thing, however I do think there's something to body types. From experience and people I know, there are those with builds that are more bulky and curvy/ wide, and have an easier time gaining both fat and muscle; and others who are either very small-framed and petite or 'long and lean', with narrow waists, hips etc, who seem to not gain weight easily and also have trouble putting on muscle. Asian people are one example - the Asian women I've known are able to eat very large amounts of food while remaining extremely slim, while Asian guys who are trying to build muscle have a much harder time doing so than their, say African American counterparts. Of course there are many exceptions, lifestyle does play a role, and most people are some mix of the body types, but they do exist. I mean, someone like Beyonce or Serena Williams, for instance, will likely never ever look like, say, Jessica Alba or Maria Sharapova, in spite of all these women being in close to optimal shape and having very closely monitored and professionally designed fitness and nutrition programmes
Ive seen many fat asians, ive also seen many fat african americans,as well as other fat people of varying races.ive also seen slim people of those races and muscular ones of those races. not to mention a lot of these athletes eat a lot more than someone who isnt an athlete and they are active very very often,man of them work out besides their sport. just because serena is african american and maria sharipova is "white" doesnt mean anything when it comes to their body types and why one is bulkier than another.5 -
nettiklive wrote: »Lots of people will say that's not a thing, however I do think there's something to body types. From experience and people I know, there are those with builds that are more bulky and curvy/ wide, and have an easier time gaining both fat and muscle; and others who are either very small-framed and petite or 'long and lean', with narrow waists, hips etc, who seem to not gain weight easily and also have trouble putting on muscle. Asian people are one example - the Asian women I've known are able to eat very large amounts of food while remaining extremely slim, while Asian guys who are trying to build muscle have a much harder time doing so than their, say African American counterparts. Of course there are many exceptions, lifestyle does play a role, and most people are some mix of the body types, but they do exist. I mean, someone like Beyonce or Serena Williams, for instance, will likely never ever look like, say, Jessica Alba or Maria Sharapova, in spite of all these women being in close to optimal shape and having very closely monitored and professionally designed fitness and nutrition programmes
The problem seems to be that you don't understand the difference between genetics and 'somatotypes'.
Of course there are different body types/shapes. But that has nothing to do with your metabolism, your personality, what kind of diet you should eat, etc.. Nor do they somehow make CICO more or less valid in any particular person/ethnicity/body type. Somatotypes are the health version of astrology.14 -
nettiklive wrote: »Two professional athletes in the same sport, why do they look SO dramatically different? I doubt that Williams purposefully attempts to bulk up in order to look like she does
This is actually quite offensive. Mixing race into a conversation about somatotypes is missing the entire point. You seem to be confusing genetics with woo. If you'd like to make some point about somatotypes for arguments sake, surely you can do it without comparing African American women to Caucasian women.12 -
100_PROOF_ wrote: »nettiklive wrote: »Two professional athletes in the same sport, why do they look SO dramatically different? I doubt that Williams purposefully attempts to bulk up in order to look like she does
This is actually quite offensive. Mixing race into a conversation about somatotypes is missing the entire point. You seem to be confusing genetics with woo. If you'd like to make some point about somatotypes for arguments sake, surely you can do it without comparing African American women to Caucasian women.
Yuuuuuup. I cringed so hard when I read that, especially since they picked extreme examples. There are slim and muscular women of all races and ethnicities. That's not even considering people of mixed backgrounds. My mom is White and my dad is Latino and Asian. According to that poster I probably should be able to eat copious amounts of food and not get fat while simultaneously getting ripped or being thick but being long and lean. Okay.10 -
Maxematics wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »nettiklive wrote: »Two professional athletes in the same sport, why do they look SO dramatically different? I doubt that Williams purposefully attempts to bulk up in order to look like she does
This is actually quite offensive. Mixing race into a conversation about somatotypes is missing the entire point. You seem to be confusing genetics with woo. If you'd like to make some point about somatotypes for arguments sake, surely you can do it without comparing African American women to Caucasian women.
Yuuuuuup. I cringed so hard when I read that, especially since they picked extreme examples. There are slim and muscular women of all races and ethnicities. That's not even considering people of mixed backgrounds. My mom is White and my dad is Latino and Asian. According to that poster I probably should be able to eat copious amounts of food and not get fat while simultaneously getting ripped or being thick but being long and lean. Okay.
It is cringeworthy. Hugs0
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