Crossfit
Replies
-
Thanks again for everyone’s comments.
I’m most certainly not looking to achieve anything too crazy, just loose a little more weight and begin to gain some strength and hopefully start to see a change in my bodyshape to avoid that ‘skinny-fat’ look! And 100% no steriods for sure! 😂
My first session is Tuesday so I’ll report back next week with how I got on!
Thanks again (again!!) I really appreciate your opinions and guidance!6 -
natruallycurious wrote: »...And also, CrossFit hasn't been around long enough for someone to come in from the ground up...
It hasn't? It's been around for 18 years (founded in 2000). My earliest recollection of it is a few coworkers who were doing it around 2005-2006, so it's not like it's a brand new thing. If the athletes need more than 18 years of training to become competitive, that doesn't say much about it as a training modality.
Also, I know a number of people who are currently doing Crossfit, and not one of them looks anything even remotely like Rich Froning (the guy pictured above). I mean, they're all in good cardio condition and can lift some decent weight, but if you see them in street clothes you wouldn't think of them as gym-goers.
I didn't say it takes 18 years to become competitive. But CrossFit Kids is newer, and you don't typically start training straight out of the womb. What I meant is that it hasn't been around long enough for someone to start their training with only CrossFit at around 5 years old, which is when most top tier athletes of any sport start training (not that I would recommend starting CrossFit at such a young age).
Also. GENETICS. I know people who were lifters and bodybuilders for years before CrossFit, but you wouldn't know it when seeing them in street clothes. I know others who have been doing a CrossFit a couple years and look pretty similar to Rich Froning. It's not reasonable to expect everyone to look that way, and genetics and nutrition play a big part.1 -
natruallycurious wrote: »natruallycurious wrote: »jseams1234 wrote: »Give it a go - you won't know if it's a fit for you until you try.
You will certainly build some muscle with CrossFit. Will it be as much as a proper hypertrophy bodybuilding program? Nope, not even close.
You will certainly build some strength with CrossFit. Will it be as much as a proper stength based or Powerlifting program? Nope, not even close.
CrossFit is kinda like the jack-of-all-trades master of none type of activity. It's interesting, since I know several people who are very into CrossFit and have been regularly training for years. None of them is what I'd call heavily muscled - with clothes on you couldn't even tell they lifted... well, there *is* one dude who is pretty big... but he was a bodybuilder for years and went into CrossFit with a pretty impressive build to begin with.
They are all in great shape though and love their "boxes" and the social aspect of it. One of the guys though - was pretty skinny when he started and told me he was gong to get "jacked". Well, it's been two years and he's still nowhere close to that goal. CrossFit might not have been the best choice for him considering the outcome he wanted.
I agree with some of this, but not all. CrossFit definitely aims to not specialize. It's in the level one trainer's handbook that their specialty is not specializing. The goal is to build a solid foundation in all 10 fitness domains, not just a couple.
I also agree that you will not become as strong as a powerlifter, or as defined as a bodybuilder. However, a lot of that is genetics and steroids. Look at top level CrossFit atheletes. They definitely look like they lift, but they are putting in way more than one training session a day. For the average person attending a few classes a week, you aren't going to build a ton of muscle or get super strong. But you likely wouldn't on a dedicated strength or hypertrophy program either. Genetics plays a big part. I started CrossFit in January. I look like I've been lifting for years. It's my body type. My coach was a bodybuilder for nearly a decade before starting CrossFit. Looking at him, he looks like he's in shape, but he's not big at all, even though he spent years trying to get as big as possible (the clean way, no steroids).
Um.you do realize that more than likely all the top crossfit athletes have used steroids during training and are genetic freaks to boot. Every year a couple get busted at the games.
Not once has a crossfit athlete started ground up in crossfit and won the games. It's not how it works. They are trained freak athletes who came into CrossFit to compete and earn money.
Those who want to compete in crossfit, should definitely do crossfit training. Arguably there is more optimal ways to train and get stronger outside of crossfit. That being said if you want to do crossfit, have at it. Enjoy.
CrossFit is a sport. People get busted in every sport where it is illegal. Yes, there are some top tier athletes that use them, just like every sport, but certainly not all of them.
And also, CrossFit hasn't been around long enough for someone to come in from the ground up. Though you're right, there are things that will provide you a stronger background for it. Most CrossFitters don't come in with a big background in lifting, but they were in shape beforehand. Katrin was a gymnast before CrossFit (one of the best foundations you can start with), and then there are retired Navy Seals competing, etc.
And you'd be a fool to think that most competition bodybuilders or powerlifters are completely clean.
The difference with CF, it's very easy to predict who would finish where respectively because it's always the same people, literally barring injury the same people are there. Other sports not so much, and yes the elite athletes of crossfit get busted more percentage wise than other sports. It's not a bad thing, it's just obvious and repetitive.
We are not talking powerlifters or bodybuilders being clean. That is for a different thread. I'm saying CF training alone did not get them to that level. Not one of them started training crossfit because it takes more than crossfit to be that level. The elites came into CrossFit for the money. Powerlifters didn't come for the money, because it's not there. There are elite powerlifters who only train powerlifting style to be elite.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »There's people on these boards that think everyone wants to be/look like an Olympic lifter.
Some of us just want to be Ninja Warrior type fit.....
I don't think so...
I quoted the post with the pic because some people might think that you get to be looking like that guy by doing CF and either 1) want to look that way...which CF would be sub-optimal...or 2) don't want to look that way and think CF makes you look that way so they don't try it for fear of looking that way.
That guy has done a ton of traditional weight lifting to look that way and also has awesome genetics.
Agreed. It's very simular to the booty shot girls on IG who claim that they are coaches and certain exercises will get you the same booty. There are different layers to the appearance.
1 -
Their mascot is a clown hooked up to a dialysis machine, from getting sick from Crossfit. No thanks.
Plus, where is the specialization? What if you have puny arms and thick legs? Why do more squats? Or if you have huge shoulders and puny legs? Why do more shoulder presses?
The programming is for the CLASS, not for YOU. Your goals are immaterial to Crossfit. Your goals are what they say they are that day, and every other day you go there.
4 -
IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »Their mascot is a clown hooked up to a dialysis machine, from getting sick from Crossfit. No thanks.
That's Uncle Rhabdo - because working out so hard that you get rhabdomyolysis is apparently funny and/or a badge of honor in Crossfit.
The other mascot is Pukie the Clown (an exhausted clown holding a puke bucket) - because working out until you puke is also apparently funny.2 -
I love Crossfit.
but not because of the training.
...... I just can't resist a really nice group photo.
2 -
This content has been removed.
-
MistressSara wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »I love Crossfit.
but not because of the training.
...... I just can't resist a really nice group photo.
Are you in these photos? I’m going to break out my magnifying glass to find you if you say yes.
maybe ?2 -
This content has been removed.
-
IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »Their mascot is a clown hooked up to a dialysis machine, from getting sick from Crossfit. No thanks.
Plus, where is the specialization? What if you have puny arms and thick legs? Why do more squats? Or if you have huge shoulders and puny legs? Why do more shoulder presses?
The programming is for the CLASS, not for YOU. Your goals are immaterial to Crossfit. Your goals are what they say they are that day, and every other day you go there.
The specialty is not specializing. CrossFit is not going to be the best decision for someone with specific aesthetic or strength goals. But it is a great option for those who want to develop overall strength and improve in multiple fitness modalities.2 -
natruallycurious wrote: »IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »Their mascot is a clown hooked up to a dialysis machine, from getting sick from Crossfit. No thanks.
Plus, where is the specialization? What if you have puny arms and thick legs? Why do more squats? Or if you have huge shoulders and puny legs? Why do more shoulder presses?
The programming is for the CLASS, not for YOU. Your goals are immaterial to Crossfit. Your goals are what they say they are that day, and every other day you go there.
The specialty is not specializing. CrossFit is not going to be the best decision for someone with specific aesthetic or strength goals. But it is a great option for those who want to develop overall strength and improve in multiple fitness modalities.
People seem not to understand what Cross-Fit means....5 -
annaskiski wrote: »natruallycurious wrote: »IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »Their mascot is a clown hooked up to a dialysis machine, from getting sick from Crossfit. No thanks.
Plus, where is the specialization? What if you have puny arms and thick legs? Why do more squats? Or if you have huge shoulders and puny legs? Why do more shoulder presses?
The programming is for the CLASS, not for YOU. Your goals are immaterial to Crossfit. Your goals are what they say they are that day, and every other day you go there.
The specialty is not specializing. CrossFit is not going to be the best decision for someone with specific aesthetic or strength goals. But it is a great option for those who want to develop overall strength and improve in multiple fitness modalities.
People seem not to understand what Cross-Fit means....
Agreed!!1 -
natruallycurious wrote: »IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »Their mascot is a clown hooked up to a dialysis machine, from getting sick from Crossfit. No thanks.
Plus, where is the specialization? What if you have puny arms and thick legs? Why do more squats? Or if you have huge shoulders and puny legs? Why do more shoulder presses?
The programming is for the CLASS, not for YOU. Your goals are immaterial to Crossfit. Your goals are what they say they are that day, and every other day you go there.
The specialty is not specializing. CrossFit is not going to be the best decision for someone with specific aesthetic or strength goals. But it is a great option for those who want to develop overall strength and improve in multiple fitness modalities.
Some of the problem with that type of training to those who successfully have trained ourselves and others longer than crossfit has even been around is if you only do a skilled lift such as a Clean once every six weeks you will not improve in strength, technique, or that skill. So not specializing actually makes it a non useful lift for nearly any goal.1 -
So... I lift and do Crossfit.
You make no sense. If its not YOUR program its not good? Maybe the OP just wants to be well-rounded.
You lift only? You never run, or do anything else? If you run once a week or so, you will not improve your running. Does that mean you should never do it? Only perform any exercise if you can devote yourself to it several days a week?
0 -
IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »Their mascot is a clown hooked up to a dialysis machine, from getting sick from Crossfit. No thanks.
That's Uncle Rhabdo - because working out so hard that you get rhabdomyolysis is apparently funny and/or a badge of honor in Crossfit.
The other mascot is Pukie the Clown (an exhausted clown holding a puke bucket) - because working out until you puke is also apparently funny.
It's pretty dumb if you ask me. Olympians don't train that hard, because they want to progress. They know they can't make that incremental progress every day if they do too much one day and have to be out for months.
I was under the impression that people exercised for their HEALTH.
Apparently Crossfit is not as interested in that. Plus, their emphasis on Paleo. If bread is too "processed" for them to eat (even though humans have been eating bread for many thousands of years), why are they trying to sell you their brand of whey protein? Is a tub of whey protein not processed???? Do you not have to FURTHER process it in the blender to mix it?
WHERE'S THE COMMON SENSE????6 -
Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....5
-
natruallycurious wrote: »IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »Their mascot is a clown hooked up to a dialysis machine, from getting sick from Crossfit. No thanks.
Plus, where is the specialization? What if you have puny arms and thick legs? Why do more squats? Or if you have huge shoulders and puny legs? Why do more shoulder presses?
The programming is for the CLASS, not for YOU. Your goals are immaterial to Crossfit. Your goals are what they say they are that day, and every other day you go there.
The specialty is not specializing. CrossFit is not going to be the best decision for someone with specific aesthetic or strength goals. But it is a great option for those who want to develop overall strength and improve in multiple fitness modalities.
Everyone has their own opinion and way of running their own life. If Crossfit is for you, you are not alone.
Do you.
But don't get mad when people criticize it, when it has such a high rate of injury and a disease so common among its followers that it incorporated into the mascot imagery, and has been dubbed "Crossfit disease."
3 -
annaskiski wrote: »Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....
You are not lying. Don't get me started on Planet Fitness. LOLOLOLOLOL!
Honestly, different people need different things. Some people need Crossfit. They need to spend exorbitant amounts of money for spartan spaces, a competitive environment and speed. The combo probably gives them the rush they need. If they spent less money, they'd question the value of what they are doing, if the grounds were nice, they wouldn't feel like they had "grit," if they couldn't prove they were doing better than Stacey, they'd wonder why are they even here, and tossing around weight for speed gets that combo of weightlifting pump and runners high, so their brains get their drugs. And some people have a hard time with autonomy. They are wired to be more communal and prefer having a leader than being self-led. Having goals and programming imposed on them might actually have them progress further and faster than if they'd gone at it alone. But it comes at a high cost, both in money and health.
Some people need PF. If people really are scared to come of out of a dressing room of a gym, they may need a starter gym like PF, just to get comfortable. But it comes at a high cost, in terms of not making any progress, or having a ceiling put on their progress.
I'm not saying that people can't progress in both CF or PF environments. Different strokes for different folks.
6 -
annaskiski wrote: »Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....
You're Not Allowed To Be Critical Of Planet Fitness !
....... they say so:
4 -
Motorsheen wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....
You're Not Allowed To Be Critical Of Planet Fitness !
....... they say so:
I hate their color scheme so much.2 -
IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....
You are not lying. Don't get me started on Planet Fitness. LOLOLOLOLOL!
Honestly, different people need different things. Some people need Crossfit. They need to spend exorbitant amounts of money for spartan spaces, a competitive environment and speed. The combo probably gives them the rush they need. If they spent less money, they'd question the value of what they are doing, if the grounds were nice, they wouldn't feel like they had "grit," if they couldn't prove they were doing better than Stacey, they'd wonder why are they even here, and tossing around weight for speed gets that combo of weightlifting pump and runners high, so their brains get their drugs. And some people have a hard time with autonomy. They are wired to be more communal and prefer having a leader than being self-led. Having goals and programming imposed on them might actually have them progress further and faster than if they'd gone at it alone. But it comes at a high cost, both in money and health.
Some people need PF. If people really are scared to come of out of a dressing room of a gym, they may need a starter gym like PF, just to get comfortable. But it comes at a high cost, in terms of not making any progress, or having a ceiling put on their progress.
I'm not saying that people can't progress in both CF or PF environments. Different strokes for different folks.
The condescension in this post is off the charts....
I don't think you have your act together. You are extremely insecure...5 -
annaskiski wrote: »IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....
You are not lying. Don't get me started on Planet Fitness. LOLOLOLOLOL!
Honestly, different people need different things. Some people need Crossfit. They need to spend exorbitant amounts of money for spartan spaces, a competitive environment and speed. The combo probably gives them the rush they need. If they spent less money, they'd question the value of what they are doing, if the grounds were nice, they wouldn't feel like they had "grit," if they couldn't prove they were doing better than Stacey, they'd wonder why are they even here, and tossing around weight for speed gets that combo of weightlifting pump and runners high, so their brains get their drugs. And some people have a hard time with autonomy. They are wired to be more communal and prefer having a leader than being self-led. Having goals and programming imposed on them might actually have them progress further and faster than if they'd gone at it alone. But it comes at a high cost, both in money and health.
Some people need PF. If people really are scared to come of out of a dressing room of a gym, they may need a starter gym like PF, just to get comfortable. But it comes at a high cost, in terms of not making any progress, or having a ceiling put on their progress.
I'm not saying that people can't progress in both CF or PF environments. Different strokes for different folks.
The condescension in this post is off the charts....
I don't think you have your act together. You are extremely insecure...
Or, I really think CrossFit is dangerous, and Planet Fitness has no squat racks, or free barbells for deadlifts and bench press, literally the three lifts considered foundational for strength gains.
Either way, you are entitled to your opinion.4 -
IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....
You are not lying. Don't get me started on Planet Fitness. LOLOLOLOLOL!
Honestly, different people need different things. Some people need Crossfit. They need to spend exorbitant amounts of money for spartan spaces, a competitive environment and speed. The combo probably gives them the rush they need. If they spent less money, they'd question the value of what they are doing, if the grounds were nice, they wouldn't feel like they had "grit," if they couldn't prove they were doing better than Stacey, they'd wonder why are they even here, and tossing around weight for speed gets that combo of weightlifting pump and runners high, so their brains get their drugs. And some people have a hard time with autonomy. They are wired to be more communal and prefer having a leader than being self-led. Having goals and programming imposed on them might actually have them progress further and faster than if they'd gone at it alone. But it comes at a high cost, both in money and health.
Some people need PF. If people really are scared to come of out of a dressing room of a gym, they may need a starter gym like PF, just to get comfortable. But it comes at a high cost, in terms of not making any progress, or having a ceiling put on their progress.
I'm not saying that people can't progress in both CF or PF environments. Different strokes for different folks.
LEAVE STACEY ALONE !!!1 -
IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....
You are not lying. Don't get me started on Planet Fitness. LOLOLOLOLOL!
Honestly, different people need different things. Some people need Crossfit. They need to spend exorbitant amounts of money for spartan spaces, a competitive environment and speed. The combo probably gives them the rush they need. If they spent less money, they'd question the value of what they are doing, if the grounds were nice, they wouldn't feel like they had "grit," if they couldn't prove they were doing better than Stacey, they'd wonder why are they even here, and tossing around weight for speed gets that combo of weightlifting pump and runners high, so their brains get their drugs. And some people have a hard time with autonomy. They are wired to be more communal and prefer having a leader than being self-led. Having goals and programming imposed on them might actually have them progress further and faster than if they'd gone at it alone. But it comes at a high cost, both in money and health.
Some people need PF. If people really are scared to come of out of a dressing room of a gym, they may need a starter gym like PF, just to get comfortable. But it comes at a high cost, in terms of not making any progress, or having a ceiling put on their progress.
I'm not saying that people can't progress in both CF or PF environments. Different strokes for different folks.
The condescension in this post is off the charts....
I don't think you have your act together. You are extremely insecure...
Or, I really think CrossFit is dangerous, and Planet Fitness has no squat racks, or free barbells for deadlifts and bench press, literally the three lifts considered foundational for strength gains.
Either way, you are entitled to your opinion.
OK, but some people go to PF to bike. Some people go to run (like me).
I'm not there to lift. (I lift at home, and at the Crossfit gym during their open gym hours).
Some people don't care about lifting. Some people are beginners or have disabilities and like the machines for strength training.
It's not all about you...3 -
Motorsheen wrote: »IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....
You are not lying. Don't get me started on Planet Fitness. LOLOLOLOLOL!
Honestly, different people need different things. Some people need Crossfit. They need to spend exorbitant amounts of money for spartan spaces, a competitive environment and speed. The combo probably gives them the rush they need. If they spent less money, they'd question the value of what they are doing, if the grounds were nice, they wouldn't feel like they had "grit," if they couldn't prove they were doing better than Stacey, they'd wonder why are they even here, and tossing around weight for speed gets that combo of weightlifting pump and runners high, so their brains get their drugs. And some people have a hard time with autonomy. They are wired to be more communal and prefer having a leader than being self-led. Having goals and programming imposed on them might actually have them progress further and faster than if they'd gone at it alone. But it comes at a high cost, both in money and health.
Some people need PF. If people really are scared to come of out of a dressing room of a gym, they may need a starter gym like PF, just to get comfortable. But it comes at a high cost, in terms of not making any progress, or having a ceiling put on their progress.
I'm not saying that people can't progress in both CF or PF environments. Different strokes for different folks.
LEAVE STACEY ALONE !!!
LOL.
0 -
I love Crossfit. I can't train at a normal gym, I get bored. I don't want to be able to lift anything super-heavy, I'm not training to compete, I have no motivation to enter a Crossfit competition, or any other competition.
I love the social aspect of it, the variety in the workouts and the health benefits. I'm fitter and stronger than I was (yes, I know I'd be stronger if I just did strength training, I'd also be bored).
The two boxes I've been members of have been great, focused on technique first, then increasing weight. No one has even mentioned paleo, or protein powder of any kind, so dunno where that all comes from.3 -
annaskiski wrote: »IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »IHaveMyActTogether wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Wow, this may as well be a Planet Fitness thread....
You are not lying. Don't get me started on Planet Fitness. LOLOLOLOLOL!
Honestly, different people need different things. Some people need Crossfit. They need to spend exorbitant amounts of money for spartan spaces, a competitive environment and speed. The combo probably gives them the rush they need. If they spent less money, they'd question the value of what they are doing, if the grounds were nice, they wouldn't feel like they had "grit," if they couldn't prove they were doing better than Stacey, they'd wonder why are they even here, and tossing around weight for speed gets that combo of weightlifting pump and runners high, so their brains get their drugs. And some people have a hard time with autonomy. They are wired to be more communal and prefer having a leader than being self-led. Having goals and programming imposed on them might actually have them progress further and faster than if they'd gone at it alone. But it comes at a high cost, both in money and health.
Some people need PF. If people really are scared to come of out of a dressing room of a gym, they may need a starter gym like PF, just to get comfortable. But it comes at a high cost, in terms of not making any progress, or having a ceiling put on their progress.
I'm not saying that people can't progress in both CF or PF environments. Different strokes for different folks.
The condescension in this post is off the charts....
I don't think you have your act together. You are extremely insecure...
Or, I really think CrossFit is dangerous, and Planet Fitness has no squat racks, or free barbells for deadlifts and bench press, literally the three lifts considered foundational for strength gains.
Either way, you are entitled to your opinion.
OK, but some people go to PF to bike. Some people go to run (like me).
I'm not there to lift. (I lift at home, and at the Crossfit gym during their open gym hours).
Some people don't care about lifting. Some people are beginners or have disabilities and like the machines for strength training.
It's not all about you...
Good for you. Do you. I think I mentioned that somewhere in every one of my posts.
I am as entitled to my opinion as you are of yours, right?
2 -
Oh wow. I kind of wish I’d never started this thread and now I’m really doubting if I go to the induction tomorrow or not 😕0
-
samiejones1 wrote: »Oh wow. I kind of wish I’d never started this thread and now I’m really doubting if I go to the induction tomorrow or not 😕
Do it, see if you enjoy it. For some reason CF just attracts a lot of haters, usually people who haven't even tried it.6
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.6K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.3K Health and Weight Loss
- 176K Food and Nutrition
- 47.5K Recipes
- 232.6K Fitness and Exercise
- 431 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.6K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8.1K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.4K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.8K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.2K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions