August 2018 Running Challenge
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midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »I was planning a run, but with air temp at 88F and humidity on the rise, dew point in the 70s... thinking of a rest day.
By the time I get out of work and go run, it is supposed to be 91F, heat index 102F, and dew point 74F. I'm going to do what I can regardless, but it will likely be pretty slow. I think I prefer today's forecast over tomorrow (hot and raining).
95 here, real feel 100, dew point 70. Had a big cookie. Settling in for a couch nap. I'm sore from yesterday's run. You enjoy it out there @midwesterner85 😉 stay hydrated.4 -
I'm noticing a little bit of a theme on the running funk.
Thought one. Are we overlooking the importance of cut back weeks?
Thought two. Are our expectations misaligned with our perceived realities?
Thought three. There's something for staying the straight and narrow, but life warrants balance. Is your diet too strict? Are you feeding yourself subpar food?
Something that stuck with me in the reply quoting Jeff Gaudette. ( @rusgolden i think. Or maybe kevin?). Reward yourself with good food choices. Ugh. Ya, that salad/healthier choice is not punishment. Ok. I did let myself have a cookie, again. But i di'ent buy 5 of them. Only one. And a bag of chips. 😊 And half an aspertame free diet soda.
Thought four. Run and train to manage stress. Not create it.
Thought five. This group pushes us further that we could push ourselves. That's good. Just remember to respect the rest and recovery process. Be patient.
If i go back and reread something i shared as if I'm reading a post from another. 98% of the time, i can see that its not as complicated as i made it out to be.
Simply. Root cause analysis. Self parent. Lift someone up.11 -
I've enjoyed reading everyone's comments about the "running funk'. So far I haven't had a real funk yet. I still feel like I "get to run" on my run days and I "don't get to run" on rest days. But after I ran my HM in May I was getting tired from the training. After the HM I decided that for a while I was going to just run. So for a couple of weeks on all of my runs I just tried to run by how much time I had available to run and not worry about pace or distance. It didn't take long before I was looking at my pace and distance again because I just "need" to know how far and how fast I ran. But it was enough that I wasn't stressing about how far I "had" to run, I was just running. I also have spent the summer playing "Zombies Run" so I have been focusing more on fun and less on training but I do think my running has improved over the summer.5
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@biketheworld I think your answer, to getting out of that funk, is to allow yourself those runs that don't feel like training. Just be free, run like a kid. Leave the Garmin off or unattended. Grab some earbuds. Go see, smell, feel the world on foot.
Go get reconnected with the beauty and belonging, every tree, every critter, every molecule is exactly where it needs to be, and was perfectly placed for you to find in that moment. Its your world.
Fart the training. There's bigger rewards out there if we take the time to see them. They should never get lost in training.
So so so true! I've been thinking about this. I run the same darn route every time. If I "need" to do more than 4 miles, I start looping around and around. I live in the country for crying out loud - there are so many pretty routes possible - but I was stalked by a guy a couple years ago and now am skittish about heading out anyplace the homes are more than 1/2 mile apart. It's time to start exploring again. There is a wonderful nature preserve about 2 miles down the road full of trails. This Saturday - I'm driving over there - and going to just enjoy running for awhile. I feel better just thinking about it!@biketheworld Maybe just some low stress fun runs at distances that don't require specific training would be good? Like some 5K or 10K no pressure races? That's all I've got left on my calendar for the year and it's kinda freeing.
You're exactly right. I don't know why I have it in my head to only sign up for halfs. What a dope I am! I'm going to go look for something right now. Thanks!7 -
so I'm over 200 posts behind now. I hope I haven't missed too much.
I've kicked back into training mode after having most of the month off due to injury. The injury is better but still niggling but I'm now at the point of ignoring it and living with it. I think its always going to be low level and I can handle that.
so 12 weeks till my HM! I have done 2 training runs. fortunately the first 2 weeks are pretty much what i've been doing the last 8 weeks anyway so I should be able to get my fitness up again. yesterdays 5k was pathetic and I did 6.5 today - just. only running once every 4 days has really tanked my fitness!5 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »I was planning a run, but with air temp at 88F and humidity on the rise, dew point in the 70s... thinking of a rest day.
By the time I get out of work and go run, it is supposed to be 91F, heat index 102F, and dew point 74F. I'm going to do what I can regardless, but it will likely be pretty slow. I think I prefer today's forecast over tomorrow (hot and raining).
95 here, real feel 100, dew point 70. Had a big cookie. Settling in for a couch nap. I'm sore from yesterday's run. You enjoy it out there @midwesterner85 😉 stay hydrated.
We broke 100 here too... unless temp really drops soon, today will be a cookies and ice cream day instead of a run day
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I'm noticing a little bit of a theme on the running funk.
Thought one. Are we overlooking the importance of cut back weeks?
Thought two. Are our expectations misaligned with our perceived realities?
Thought three. There's something for staying the straight and narrow, but life warrants balance. Is your diet too strict? Are you feeding yourself subpar food?
Something that stuck with me in the reply quoting Jeff Gaudette. ( @rusgolden i think. Or maybe kevin?). Reward yourself with good food choices. Ugh. Ya, that salad/healthier choice is not punishment. Ok. I did let myself have a cookie, again. But i di'ent buy 5 of them. Only one. And a bag of chips. 😊 And half an aspertame free diet soda.
Thought four. Run and train to manage stress. Not create it.
Thought five. This group pushes us further that we could push ourselves. That's good. Just remember to respect the rest and recovery process. Be patient.
If i go back and reread something i shared as if I'm reading a post from another. 98% of the time, i can see that its not as complicated as i made it out to be.
Simply. Root cause analysis. Self parent. Lift someone up.
All of this.3 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »8/1/18 2.65 miles
8/2/18 3.1 miles
8/3/18 3.1 miles
8/4/18 10 miles
8/5/18 2.7 miles
8/6/18 blood draw
8/7/18 3.9 miles
8/8/18 3.3 miles
8/9/18 3.05 miles
8/10/18 2.7 miles
8/11/18 3 miles
8/12/18 grieving
8/13/18 rest
8/14/18 3.65 miles
8/15/18 3.05 miles
8/16/18 3.1 miles
8/17/18 2.75 miles
8/18/18 2.45 miles
8/19/18 8 miles
8/20/18 3.25 miles
8/21/18 4.3 miles
8/22/18 3.6 miles
8/23/18 rest
8/24/18 3.2 miles
8/25/18 rest
8/26/18 8.25 miles
Total 83.1 /100-115
8.25 was supposed to be 14. I couldn't get myself to go any further. I had done my second loop and stopped at home for some Nuun performance. Walked the block, put my water bottle back and started to run again. I got about .25 in and I couldn't go any further. I think this might be the end of my marathon training. 3 attempts and no starts means it's not destined to be. I will probably drop down to the half.
@RunsOnEspresso
Hugs. What date is the event?
Looks like you were trying to go from a longest run of 8 up to 14. Tough ask.
I don't believe in destiny.
There are other marathons, or just run the distance when you've done the training.
I wouldn't let the date of one specific event stop me from achieving a distance goal.
More hugs.0 -
biketheworld wrote: »@biketheworld I think your answer, to getting out of that funk, is to allow yourself those runs that don't feel like training. Just be free, run like a kid. Leave the Garmin off or unattended. Grab some earbuds. Go see, smell, feel the world on foot.
Go get reconnected with the beauty and belonging, every tree, every critter, every molecule is exactly where it needs to be, and was perfectly placed for you to find in that moment. Its your world.
Fart the training. There's bigger rewards out there if we take the time to see them. They should never get lost in training.
So so so true! I've been thinking about this. I run the same darn route every time. If I "need" to do more than 4 miles, I start looping around and around. I live in the country for crying out loud - there are so many pretty routes possible - but I was stalked by a guy a couple years ago and now am skittish about heading out anyplace the homes are more than 1/2 mile apart. It's time to start exploring again. There is a wonderful nature preserve about 2 miles down the road full of trails. This Saturday - I'm driving over there - and going to just enjoy running for awhile. I feel better just thinking about it!
Take some pepper spray. Or something. Id feel really bad if i encouraged you to something.... Ugly.2 -
August 1 - 20 km run
August 2 - 9 km run
August 3 - rest day
August 4 - 16 km Harriers trail run/13 km water girl for football
August 5 - 15 km Harriers trail run
August 6 - 15 km run
August 7 - 14 km run
August 8 - 10 km run
August 9 - 23 km run
August 10 - rest day
August 11 - rest day
August 12 - 10 km club run
August 13 - 23 km run
August 14 - rest day
August 15 - 10 km Hill Repeats
August 16 - 20 km run
August 17- rest day
August 18 - 4 km water girl
- 23 km Howling Dog Night Run
August 19 - recovery day
August 20 - recovery day
August 21 - 10 km Interval Running
August 22 - 20 km run
August 23 - raining
August 24 - 11 km Hill Repeats
August 25 - 20 km run
August 26 - 10 km club run/5 km water girl
August 27 - 14 km run
August 28 - 20 km run
Total distance 334 km - goal 350 km.4 -
@Orphia Congrats on the 35k!
@MegaMooseEsq Terrific run on your 5k, and to hit all three goals is awesome!
@katharmonic Great race and great race report...congrats on the mileage PR!
@marisap2010 Nice 20-miler! Hope the shin soreness disappears soon.
@Elise4270 "Thought one. Are we overlooking the importance of cut back weeks?" Most probably! I used to try and fit one in every fourth week or so, but since I'm on a shorter on-call rotation nowadays, I tend to leave my down week until then, which means every eight weeks or so. I have to say, I can certainly tell the difference...after about six weeks, I quickly start to feel tired vs when I've just finished a cutback week. It could also be the heat though (or a mix of both).No one cares about your arm pit fat, your missing teeth, that your ugly, or dumb, or gimpy, or misunderstood...
Normally Mondays see me running 15 miles, so with a 20% reduction or so for the cutback week, that leaves about 12 miles for today. In other news, August seems to have realized that it's been slacking off lately, and has returned with a vengeance. Thankfully, September is just around the corner...not that that's going to change anything temp-wise any time soon, but at least psychologically it'll make a difference.
01 - 15.66
02 - 14.15
03 - 21.05
05 - 5.75
06 - 15.62
07 - 14.41
08 - 15.62
09 - 14.45
10 - 26.39
13 - 15.64
14 - 15.32
15 - 15.59
16 - 14.03
17 - 26.21 for @KeepRunningFatboy
20 - 15.66
21 - 14.16
22 - 15.63
23 - 14.15
24 - 7.35
27 - 12.27
Total: 309.11 / 250 miles6 -
Rest day today. Ridiculous humidity, weather app says dew point 74º F right now, temp 86º F. It was okay out walking, but not one of those just enjoy the day walks.
Running funk: I'm not sure I understand "funk" the same way everyone else does. I get in a real downer of a funk when I'm too injured to run, and force myself to concentrate on rehab and actually getting in the exercises that will help me get better.
When I'm healthy enough to run, the feelings probably aren't strong enough to be called "funk". Maybe, "lack of motivation." When I have an unexplained lack of motivation, that can be an indication that I'm overtraining and need to back off a bit. Sound familiar?
Maybe it gets strong enough to be called funk when we have weeks and weeks of oppressive humidity; but if I get out there and run, eventually I acclimate to it and it's just running. Then when the humidity comes back down, it's heavenly running.
I frequently experience that lack of motivation for doing my morning supporting (cross training?) exercises. Sometimes I give in and skip some of them for a day. Most of the time, I tell myself, 3 sets of pull ups before the banana. Work in 3 sets of push ups. Okay, do that second set of pushups and the balance exercises after I eat the eggs. Take a break, danger point to miss the rest. Start the steel cut oats in the microwave, and force myself to do the monster walk up and down the hallway with the resistance band. And from that point, even when I'm telling myself I'm just doing this one more thing, habit usually carries me through the swiss ball bridges, the one-leg weighted calf raises, the cone touches, the walking lunges, and that 3rd set of push ups.
I've let injury/lack of motivation/lack of comfortable time in the morning routine squeeze out all the kettlebell work for quite a while. That showed up as a lower back ache after long runs recently. Yep, need to add back those kettlebell swings and snatches to work the erector spinae. Wouldn't hurt to add back the Turkish get ups, too. Probably don't need to add back the squats; I'm likely getting enough quad work from the walking lunges and the cone touches.
So one day last week I did the kettlebell swings. Today I did the kettlebell swings and one set of snatches. Baby steps. Still need to find a time slot that makes this stuff routine. I know from experience that if I load too much of it into my morning/breakfast routine I'll crash and burn. But there's no longer any *physical* reason to avoid the kettlebell work; it's just that I've filled the time with other stuff. The cone touches are important, and I'm doing more walking lunges than I did the last time I was consistently doing kettlebell work.
And I struggle to overcome the funk/lack of motivation on all this non-running stuff, because doing it consistently helps me stay uninjured and keep running consistently. If it weren't for the fact that it helps me stay uninjured while running, I doubt I'd give a flying f*** in a rolling donut about walking lunges or calf raises.
I have been more consistent since I started giving myself a planned break on weekends. Saturdays and Sundays I'm up early, have a compressed time frame, and eat oatmeal instead of steel cut oats to save time. I let myself get by with just the pull ups and push ups those two days, and it helps with the motivation during the week. Possibly the two days off helps physically as well, but it really helps mentally.
I don't talk about the supporting stuff much, because it isn't as fun as talking about running. But it's important to be consistent with the supporting stuff, and that's where I struggle with motivation most often.7 -
@Elise4270 I bought two bunches today...that should be enough to last a couple of days or so.1
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4.71 hot and slow miles tonight. I would like to think that I'll be faster when it is cooler out, but that is a dream and not a reality.
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biketheworld wrote: »@biketheworld I think your answer, to getting out of that funk, is to allow yourself those runs that don't feel like training. Just be free, run like a kid. Leave the Garmin off or unattended. Grab some earbuds. Go see, smell, feel the world on foot.
Go get reconnected with the beauty and belonging, every tree, every critter, every molecule is exactly where it needs to be, and was perfectly placed for you to find in that moment. Its your world.
Fart the training. There's bigger rewards out there if we take the time to see them. They should never get lost in training.
So so so true! I've been thinking about this. I run the same darn route every time. If I "need" to do more than 4 miles, I start looping around and around. I live in the country for crying out loud - there are so many pretty routes possible - but I was stalked by a guy a couple years ago and now am skittish about heading out anyplace the homes are more than 1/2 mile apart. It's time to start exploring again. There is a wonderful nature preserve about 2 miles down the road full of trails. This Saturday - I'm driving over there - and going to just enjoy running for awhile. I feel better just thinking about it!
Take some pepper spray. Or something. Id feel really bad if i encouraged you to something.... Ugly.
When you see an unfamiliar guy running, and he crosses the street to give you a wide berth, you know he's heard stories about stalkers and pepper spray. I may or may not have done this on occasion.3 -
@Elise4270 I bought two bunches today...that should be enough to last a couple of days or so.
Green or fully ripend. I like mine just barely peelable, firm starchy green.1 -
biketheworld wrote: »@biketheworld I think your answer, to getting out of that funk, is to allow yourself those runs that don't feel like training. Just be free, run like a kid. Leave the Garmin off or unattended. Grab some earbuds. Go see, smell, feel the world on foot.
Go get reconnected with the beauty and belonging, every tree, every critter, every molecule is exactly where it needs to be, and was perfectly placed for you to find in that moment. Its your world.
Fart the training. There's bigger rewards out there if we take the time to see them. They should never get lost in training.
So so so true! I've been thinking about this. I run the same darn route every time. If I "need" to do more than 4 miles, I start looping around and around. I live in the country for crying out loud - there are so many pretty routes possible - but I was stalked by a guy a couple years ago and now am skittish about heading out anyplace the homes are more than 1/2 mile apart. It's time to start exploring again. There is a wonderful nature preserve about 2 miles down the road full of trails. This Saturday - I'm driving over there - and going to just enjoy running for awhile. I feel better just thinking about it!
Take some pepper spray. Or something. Id feel really bad if i encouraged you to something.... Ugly.
When you see an unfamiliar guy running, and he crosses the street to give you a wide berth, you know he's heard stories about stalkers and pepper spray. I may or may not have done this on occasion.
I do this, but not out of fear for pepper spray, more for fear the other person might want to TALK or say HI or something equally crazy...7 -
@MobyCarp - I hear you. I have started and fizzled out some many times on that stuff. I am currently in a fizzle out actually, in part cause with the job change I have no access to weights, pull bar, or etc anymore.0
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@MobyCarp i have a long list of similar pt exercises. I'm not as good about doing them once i had to go back to work. Think, honestly i havent done any of them in months. No time* and i still have nerves that get mad. But i should be doing them until the nerves get mad.
Just shows me that, if im not gonna put in the work, i won't see the pay off. Or catch that f** filled rolling donut if i wanted too 😁
*Lazy couch time, or time i wont get out of bed early enough to manage my life, yet continue to complain about the lack of opportunity to properly train, rehab or motivate myself. All on me.2
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