Reduce running to gain weight?
Livingstrongx
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So I've been debating on how much to scale back on running to gain back alot of weight I lost. I'm a long distance runner who normally runs 5 times a week 45-55 miles sometimes more and I love it but the last few weeks I've increased my mileage and well..that resulted in a huge weight loss that was way unintentional so now I'm VERY underweight.
I'm not one to weigh myself ever but this last time I was shocked to see the number so low and now I'm thinking about reducing my running and increasing calories but I'm not sure how much I should reduce it to? Just need some opinions/suggestions
Just for reference, I'm 20 years old, 5'1 and weight is below 76 so yes I'm super underweight but I dont mind gaining weight or increasing calories like I've mentioned. I'm just looking for reasonable suggestions.
Thanks!
I'm not one to weigh myself ever but this last time I was shocked to see the number so low and now I'm thinking about reducing my running and increasing calories but I'm not sure how much I should reduce it to? Just need some opinions/suggestions
Just for reference, I'm 20 years old, 5'1 and weight is below 76 so yes I'm super underweight but I dont mind gaining weight or increasing calories like I've mentioned. I'm just looking for reasonable suggestions.
Thanks!
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You don't have to stop running, you just need to start eating A LOT. I am always envious of those who need to gain weight rather than lose and I think many of us here wish we had your concern. Not to make light of your situation in any way; the struggle is real for those who are chronically underweight too.
I would start by researching calorie dense foods then add those to your diet so that you are not overwhelmed by the increase in volume of food. Make sure you get your protein and a good level of micronutrients in, then indulge in what most others would consider treats: ice cream, cookies, chocolate, that sort of thing. I have a terrible sweet tooth though. If you don't, there are plenty of calorie dense foods out there. Nuts are a good example but you can find lots of things depending on what appeals to you most.
Of course you could reduce your running to reduce your CO but, if you enjoy it, why deprive yourself?
Just to add: a TDEE calculator will help you decide how much you should increase your calories. They are readily available online and there is one on MFP as well. I note you have only 2 posts and are quite young so you might be very new to this and still learning--if I'm preaching to the converted, my apologies.5 -
You love running, so run. You just need to eat enough to keep up with your calorie burn. This is an issue for endurance athletes in general. For instance, cyclists in training or in competition need upwards of 6,000 cal/day just to keep up.
You aren't going to need that much, of course. According to the runnersworld.com calculator, If you're running 10 miles at an 8 min/mile pace, you're burning around 600 calories. Use that calculator to figure out your burn using your actual distance and pace (I put in 80 lbs for the weight since that's the lowest it will go), take that result, then make sure you eat at least that much more on top of your NEAT expenditure.2 -
I ran a little more on average while playing baseball, working construction, lifting at then age 46 at 210-220lbs with a low body fat.
I just would eat more of the foods laced with higher calories like peanut butter & ice cream which can be your friends. I needed up to 8-12k in cals just to keep the weight. Find high calories food that fits your goals.2 -
Technically, your BMI is only around 68-74% of ideal weight (don't know if you are male or female); below 80% in considered very underweight (ED). Not sure what your goal(s) are, but you seem built for endurance athleticism with your low bodyweight. Consider at least getting to 80% ideal weight for health purposes though1
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MFP calculates your calories for you. Make sure you eat back your exercise calories. Nutrition is so important for our bodies as we work them hard with exercise. I was in the same boat where I was ok with my weight and one day I weighed myself and was surprised to see that I had lost more weight than I ever intended to. I have increased my calories and feel so much better. Good luck.1
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Fuel your runs with calorie-dense meals. You obviously love this activity . So no need to give it up if you eat back the calories you burn. Bring in the peanut butter, bananas, avocados, nuts, e.t.c. You choose your favorite energy-rich fuel. Have fun!3
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I think a reasonable suggestion would be to talk to your doctor about this. You are saying you are under 76 lbs? If you were 76 lbs that would put your BMI at 14.4 - that is severely underweight. I think you need to stop all exercise until you have been cleared by a doctor.2
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I'd probably start here so you can ensure you are getting enough calories. And if you want to gain some muscle along with your weight gain, i would start here.
At this point, I'd probably stop running if you can't keep up with the calories.0 -
As everone says, you can keep running if that's what you enjoy, but the price to pay is that you will be eating more food in order to be in a surplus. The maintenance + 250 calories still applies here for a lean bulk, but because you're running a lot, chances are that your maintenance is quite high.0
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Is there a reason you haven't been fueling your runs so far?2
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I'm surprised you can still run with a bmi of 14.4 or how you didn't realize you were so underweight. Gaining weight should be your priority right now. Also you should go see your doctor.4
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Like everyone else said, it's OK to keep running -- with the caveat that you eat more, and you fuel those runs. (AKA: Ignore all of the threads about not eating your exercise calories.)
Please see your doctor, and ask for a referral to a dietitian. You're extremely underweight, and you need help eating and gaining safely.1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »Is there a reason you haven't been fueling your runs so far?
I quit counting calories a while back and thought I would just eat intuitively but its backfired on me and now I plan to track again to make sure I'm fueling for my runs+gain weight.
The other day I calculated everything I had been eating throughout the time I was trying to intuitively eat and only came out to 1300-1400 max so it's no wonder I lost all that weight. I will have to increase from here on out0 -
MFP calculates your calories for you. Make sure you eat back your exercise calories. Nutrition is so important for our bodies as we work them hard with exercise. I was in the same boat where I was ok with my weight and one day I weighed myself and was surprised to see that I had lost more weight than I ever intended to. I have increased my calories and feel so much better. Good luck.
Did you increase slowly or just jump into bigger increases(ex: 250-500)? I hadn't realized my calories were so low before and I only hit around 1300-1400 so I'm not sure how high of an increase to start with0 -
Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Is there a reason you haven't been fueling your runs so far?
I quit counting calories a while back and thought I would just eat intuitively but its backfired on me and now I plan to track again to make sure I'm fueling for my runs+gain weight.
The other day I calculated everything I had been eating throughout the time I was trying to intuitively eat and only came out to 1300-1400 max so it's no wonder I lost all that weight. I will have to increase from here on out
I'd start with a rest week and a check up at the doctors personally4 -
collectingblues wrote: »Like everyone else said, it's OK to keep running -- with the caveat that you eat more, and you fuel those runs. (AKA: Ignore all of the threads about not eating your exercise calories.)
Please see your doctor, and ask for a referral to a dietitian. You're extremely underweight, and you need help eating and gaining safely.
Someone actually told me to reverse diet since my calories were so low before and that a sudden huge increase is not good. Should I ignore that too? Not very certain whether that's true or not0 -
born_of_fire74 wrote: »You don't have to stop running, you just need to start eating A LOT. I am always envious of those who need to gain weight rather than lose and I think many of us here wish we had your concern. Not to make light of your situation in any way; the struggle is real for those who are chronically underweight too.
I would start by researching calorie dense foods then add those to your diet so that you are not overwhelmed by the increase in volume of food. Make sure you get your protein and a good level of micronutrients in, then indulge in what most others would consider treats: ice cream, cookies, chocolate, that sort of thing. I have a terrible sweet tooth though. If you don't, there are plenty of calorie dense foods out there. Nuts are a good example but you can find lots of things depending on what appeals to you most.
Of course you could reduce your running to reduce your CO but, if you enjoy it, why deprive yourself?
Just to add: a TDEE calculator will help you decide how much you should increase your calories. They are readily available online and there is one on MFP as well. I note you have only 2 posts and are quite young so you might be very new to this and still learning--if I'm preaching to the converted, my apologies.
Thanks for the info I will keep all of it in mind but I do have a question, is it bad idea to increase calories so suddenly? I was told that increasing calories so rapidly is a bad idea since I had been only eating very low calorie before (1300-1400) and that I should reverse diet?0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Is there a reason you haven't been fueling your runs so far?
I quit counting calories a while back and thought I would just eat intuitively but its backfired on me and now I plan to track again to make sure I'm fueling for my runs+gain weight.
The other day I calculated everything I had been eating throughout the time I was trying to intuitively eat and only came out to 1300-1400 max so it's no wonder I lost all that weight. I will have to increase from here on out
I'd start with a rest week and a check up at the doctors personally
I'm on a waiting list for a new doctor since I switched from my old one so it will be quite a while to go for a checkup.0 -
Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Is there a reason you haven't been fueling your runs so far?
I quit counting calories a while back and thought I would just eat intuitively but its backfired on me and now I plan to track again to make sure I'm fueling for my runs+gain weight.
The other day I calculated everything I had been eating throughout the time I was trying to intuitively eat and only came out to 1300-1400 max so it's no wonder I lost all that weight. I will have to increase from here on out
I'd start with a rest week and a check up at the doctors personally
I'm on a waiting list for a new doctor since I switched from my old one so it will be quite a while to go for a checkup.
What's more important, your health or running?1 -
How long habe you been underweight? You didn't drop from 18.5 to <14.4 in a few weeks2
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TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Is there a reason you haven't been fueling your runs so far?
I quit counting calories a while back and thought I would just eat intuitively but its backfired on me and now I plan to track again to make sure I'm fueling for my runs+gain weight.
The other day I calculated everything I had been eating throughout the time I was trying to intuitively eat and only came out to 1300-1400 max so it's no wonder I lost all that weight. I will have to increase from here on out
I'd start with a rest week and a check up at the doctors personally
I'm on a waiting list for a new doctor since I switched from my old one so it will be quite a while to go for a checkup.
What's more important, your health or running?
Of course my health. Although my last checkup, I only had low iron but took care of that bu eating more iron rich foods and took daily iron pills for it. Other than that, I was in good condition0 -
singingflutelady wrote: »How long habe you been underweight? You didn't drop from 18.5 to <14.4 in a few weeks
I've always been underweight but not THIS underweight but I'm honestly not too sure because like I've mentioned I'm not one to ever weigh myself often.0 -
Livingstrongx wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »Like everyone else said, it's OK to keep running -- with the caveat that you eat more, and you fuel those runs. (AKA: Ignore all of the threads about not eating your exercise calories.)
Please see your doctor, and ask for a referral to a dietitian. You're extremely underweight, and you need help eating and gaining safely.
Someone actually told me to reverse diet since my calories were so low before and that a sudden huge increase is not good. Should I ignore that too? Not very certain whether that's true or not
That's something you need to ask your doctor. When you are that far underweight, refeeding syndrome is a real concern.3 -
collectingblues wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »Like everyone else said, it's OK to keep running -- with the caveat that you eat more, and you fuel those runs. (AKA: Ignore all of the threads about not eating your exercise calories.)
Please see your doctor, and ask for a referral to a dietitian. You're extremely underweight, and you need help eating and gaining safely.
Someone actually told me to reverse diet since my calories were so low before and that a sudden huge increase is not good. Should I ignore that too? Not very certain whether that's true or not
That's something you need to ask your doctor. When you are that far underweight, refeeding syndrome is a real concern.
I agree. With the severity of how underweight you are, it is quite likely you either have a medical issue or a mental one and that really needs to be addressed. You don't just naturally become a 14.4 BMI from running without something majorly wrong.
I am surprised those around you did not notice you lose so much weight and I really think you need to go to a doctor before running. It is never recommended to exercise daily when you are so emaciated until your weight is in a healthy range. It is just dangerous and counterproductive at this point. No medical professional would condone this and would say you need immediate weight restoration first and to get to the bottom of this medical and/or mental health issue. Please try to get in to a doctor, without your health you have nothing.5 -
I'm surprise you can run at all being this underweight. I would say to stop running all together until you see your doctor and get your calorie intake under control.1
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Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Is there a reason you haven't been fueling your runs so far?
I quit counting calories a while back and thought I would just eat intuitively but its backfired on me and now I plan to track again to make sure I'm fueling for my runs+gain weight.
The other day I calculated everything I had been eating throughout the time I was trying to intuitively eat and only came out to 1300-1400 max so it's no wonder I lost all that weight. I will have to increase from here on out
I'd start with a rest week and a check up at the doctors personally
I'm on a waiting list for a new doctor since I switched from my old one so it will be quite a while to go for a checkup.
What's more important, your health or running?
Of course my health. Although my last checkup, I only had low iron but took care of that bu eating more iron rich foods and took daily iron pills for it. Other than that, I was in good condition
But that was before you lost all this weight, no?
I think it's admirable that you started this thread, but it makes me sad that when the advice is not want you want to hear (eat more, stop running, see a doctor) you start to disagree and say actually you're probably ok at this weight.
You're not.7 -
Livingstrongx wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »You don't have to stop running, you just need to start eating A LOT. I am always envious of those who need to gain weight rather than lose and I think many of us here wish we had your concern. Not to make light of your situation in any way; the struggle is real for those who are chronically underweight too.
I would start by researching calorie dense foods then add those to your diet so that you are not overwhelmed by the increase in volume of food. Make sure you get your protein and a good level of micronutrients in, then indulge in what most others would consider treats: ice cream, cookies, chocolate, that sort of thing. I have a terrible sweet tooth though. If you don't, there are plenty of calorie dense foods out there. Nuts are a good example but you can find lots of things depending on what appeals to you most.
Of course you could reduce your running to reduce your CO but, if you enjoy it, why deprive yourself?
Just to add: a TDEE calculator will help you decide how much you should increase your calories. They are readily available online and there is one on MFP as well. I note you have only 2 posts and are quite young so you might be very new to this and still learning--if I'm preaching to the converted, my apologies.
Thanks for the info I will keep all of it in mind but I do have a question, is it bad idea to increase calories so suddenly? I was told that increasing calories so rapidly is a bad idea since I had been only eating very low calorie before (1300-1400) and that I should reverse diet?
I am not a medical practitioner in any way, shape or form and I absolutely bow to the wisdom of experience around here. You would be best off seeing a doctor immediately rather than following any advice from me. Perhaps if you indicate the severity of your condition, they will see you sooner than for a general checkup? Best of luck!
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TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Is there a reason you haven't been fueling your runs so far?
I quit counting calories a while back and thought I would just eat intuitively but its backfired on me and now I plan to track again to make sure I'm fueling for my runs+gain weight.
The other day I calculated everything I had been eating throughout the time I was trying to intuitively eat and only came out to 1300-1400 max so it's no wonder I lost all that weight. I will have to increase from here on out
I'd start with a rest week and a check up at the doctors personally
I'm on a waiting list for a new doctor since I switched from my old one so it will be quite a while to go for a checkup.
What's more important, your health or running?
Of course my health. Although my last checkup, I only had low iron but took care of that bu eating more iron rich foods and took daily iron pills for it. Other than that, I was in good condition
But that was before you lost all this weight, no?
I think it's admirable that you started this thread, but it makes me sad that when the advice is not want you want to hear (eat more, stop running, see a doctor) you start to disagree and say actually you're probably ok at this weight.
You're not.
I'm not disregarding any advice, even the ones telling me to stop running. I mean, I'd prefer not to stop because running is something I truly love doing but if its something i have to stop to better my health, I'll have to do that I guess. I was just hoping I would be able to even while gaining weight because I know it's possible.0 -
Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Livingstrongx wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Is there a reason you haven't been fueling your runs so far?
I quit counting calories a while back and thought I would just eat intuitively but its backfired on me and now I plan to track again to make sure I'm fueling for my runs+gain weight.
The other day I calculated everything I had been eating throughout the time I was trying to intuitively eat and only came out to 1300-1400 max so it's no wonder I lost all that weight. I will have to increase from here on out
I'd start with a rest week and a check up at the doctors personally
I'm on a waiting list for a new doctor since I switched from my old one so it will be quite a while to go for a checkup.
What's more important, your health or running?
Of course my health. Although my last checkup, I only had low iron but took care of that bu eating more iron rich foods and took daily iron pills for it. Other than that, I was in good condition
But that was before you lost all this weight, no?
I think it's admirable that you started this thread, but it makes me sad that when the advice is not want you want to hear (eat more, stop running, see a doctor) you start to disagree and say actually you're probably ok at this weight.
You're not.
I'm not disregarding any advice, even the ones telling me to stop running. I mean, I'd prefer not to stop because running is something I truly love doing but if its something i have to stop to better my health, I'll have to do that I guess. I was just hoping I would be able to even while gaining weight because I know it's possible.
Seeing a doctor is step one, which you don't seem keen to do?1 -
I'm surprise you can run at all being this underweight. I would say to stop running all together until you see your doctor and get your calorie intake under control.
This.
Also I understand what you say about "intuitive eating" but for people like you (and I) who struggle to gain weight, I don't think it works. I only gained weight when I started logging my food and activity levels accurately and realised I hadn't been eating anywhere near enough food. Even after a 3 week holiday earlier this year when I took a break from logging, I came back to find I'd lost 1 kg!
I'd say your first step is to see a doctor and in the meantime cut down on running or take a complete break0
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