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(Calories in vs Calories out) vs dont eat crap ( aka semi low carb)
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WarningTheHermit wrote: »Discuss
Another binary argument which completely disregards the middle and demonstrates a misunderstanding of what CICO is.
That's about all I've got.
Pretty much.2 -
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'CICO vs don't eat crap' ( regardless of definition of crap eating) doesn't make sense - they are not in opposition to each other.
Statement is a bit like 'Borrowing from the library vs reading science fiction.'
The 2 things are not mutually exclusive.10 -
Arguing that CICO is wrong is akin to arguing that there is no such thing as gravity. I simple understanding of science and thermodynamics will tell you why.5
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CICO, still skeptical? Come inside for a meticulous log that proves it.0
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Soooo the laws of physics as they pertain to energy transfer simply don’t apply to you?
I think that your calculations may have been a little off.3 -
I love this discussion rounds. Obviously I wonder (and worry) constantly if I am losing any weight, when I am going to lose some weight, how I am going to lose weight. But then I know exactly, how I ended up on 170 kg (375 pounds). Was it the fairy godmother? Was it the nasty teacher in primary school? Was it that shouting neighbour? Or was it my one and only beloved mother - in - law who knows EVERYTHING better? (And also has a weight problem)? Me thinks not......Oh, hang on, could it have been my regular overeating? Could it have been that trigger food which ended up in a massive food binge? Let me think.... Just 100 calories more a day than my body needs adds about 5 kg a year. Over 10 years that's over 50 kg. And I have eaten plenty more than just an extra 100 calories! The trick is to stick to a healthier meal plan, be consistent, do a little bit of planning ahead and eventually the scales will show some weight change. Trying my best for nearly 5 months, lost so far about 20 kg (45 pounds).9
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My starting weight was +350lbs (home scale only goes to 350lbs, so that first month my weight was "ERR"). My current weight (this morning) is 168.9lbs. I eat "junk food" all the time. Last night: pizza, lunch was a McDonald's happy meal, snacks includes Cheetos Hot Fries and Pringles. Today I'm planning on a burger & beer for dinner, and not some low carb watered down beer either, a nice Stout.9
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WarningTheHermit wrote: »TO has not been back yet. I think I smell a troll.
nope just busy with life, and when I came back and saw the amount of posts that were ignorant like this one I decided it wasn't worth the effort replying to them. I've read the ones where people had actual thoughts and not just trying to be snarky.
So were you planning on responding and engaging with some of the people who asked clarifying questions?8 -
WinoGelato wrote: »WarningTheHermit wrote: »TO has not been back yet. I think I smell a troll.
nope just busy with life, and when I came back and saw the amount of posts that were ignorant like this one I decided it wasn't worth the effort replying to them. I've read the ones where people had actual thoughts and not just trying to be snarky.
So were you planning on responding and engaging with some of the people who asked clarifying questions?
It was mainly just put up to be a conversation starter, and a lot of people took it as me personally attacking their way of life. Decided it was best to just step away from it and move on rather than arguing with anyone over something that doesn't really matter to me enough to argue about it. Everyone should do what works for them, period. This is the last reply I'll make here so the post can die.
Quick note, I just joined the site right before making the post, so there is no food log to link like someone asked.
To those who weren't snarky, thanks for replying, your messages were read. Sorry my post had to anger so many people. /shrug12 -
WarningTheHermit wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »WarningTheHermit wrote: »TO has not been back yet. I think I smell a troll.
nope just busy with life, and when I came back and saw the amount of posts that were ignorant like this one I decided it wasn't worth the effort replying to them. I've read the ones where people had actual thoughts and not just trying to be snarky.
So were you planning on responding and engaging with some of the people who asked clarifying questions?
It was mainly just put up to be a conversation starter, and a lot of people took it as me personally attacking their way of life. Decided it was best to just step away from it and move on rather than arguing with anyone over something that doesn't really matter to me enough to argue about it. Everyone should do what works for them, period. This is the last reply I'll make here so the post can die.
Quick note, I just joined the site right before making the post, so there is no food log to link like someone asked.
To those who weren't snarky, thanks for replying, your messages were read. Sorry my post had to anger so many people. /shrug
So you actually have no data to back up your claims that you were eating a junk food heavy diet in a calorie deficit, then switched to a more whole foods diet at a higher calorie level but with lower carbs and started losing weight.
Gotcha.
FYI - that's not people being upset that you are personally attacking their way of life. It's people who value science and reproducible evidence asking for posters to support their claims.16 -
WarningTheHermit wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »WarningTheHermit wrote: »TO has not been back yet. I think I smell a troll.
nope just busy with life, and when I came back and saw the amount of posts that were ignorant like this one I decided it wasn't worth the effort replying to them. I've read the ones where people had actual thoughts and not just trying to be snarky.
So were you planning on responding and engaging with some of the people who asked clarifying questions?
It was mainly just put up to be a conversation starter, and a lot of people took it as me personally attacking their way of life. Decided it was best to just step away from it and move on rather than arguing with anyone over something that doesn't really matter to me enough to argue about it. Everyone should do what works for them, period. This is the last reply I'll make here so the post can die.
Quick note, I just joined the site right before making the post, so there is no food log to link like someone asked.
To those who weren't snarky, thanks for replying, your messages were read. Sorry my post had to anger so many people. /shrug
I mean, I'm not up on internet lingo, but isn't that kind of what the "snarky" reply accused you of? "Please put time and effort into politely replying, then I will ignore all replies because I don't really care and just wanted to see you all dance for me." I don't know, but I'm kind of sorry I wasted time and thought posting my initial reply now. Oh well, maybe a lurker who missed the first 3,000 posts about calories being calories and eating whatever you want wandered across this thread and learned something <shrug>19 -
I got fat eating healthy. Very healthy, actually. Still got fat.
That happened because my activity level dropped (rather significantly) but my eating habits didn't.
CICO.
I eat less healthy now than I did then. I'm losing weight. But it's because I'm eating fewer calories than I'm burning.
CICO.
It can suck, it's not always easy, and a LOT of things can affect that whole "CO" side of things, but if, for your body there is more CI than there are CO, you'll put on weight and vice versa.6 -
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