Stopped doing squats.
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My query is solved guys thanks for your reponse.1
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Always increase the weight, otherwise you don't build your legs. If you only have small dumbbells then look for advanced bodyweight squats, like one legged and pistols. Make it more difficult for you!2
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Most people in this world go on about their daily lives not doing squats, so in general yes, it is ok, no one ever died because of lack of squats. The question is what are you trying to achieve, and what your overall routine looks like. For me, doing for years a traditional large muscle teams routine, adjusting to a routine of no squats on drs orders (serious ankle injury and bearing any weight is off limits forever) has been extremely challenging and after two years I am still not happy with any alternative.
Disagree with bolded part. The average person will die if they can’t squat. If you can’t squat, you cannot live independently, will end up in a nursing home. The inability to squat is usually tied to overall health decline and loss of function. There are exceptions to this for disabled people who have adapted well, but even so they will have a shorter life span.
No, you won’t die tomorrow or even next year for most, but squatting is the most important exercise for maintaining functioning. Young people won’t get it, but anyone over 50 will. Maybe I should put this in Debate forum.
I am pretty sure you deliberately pretend to misunderstand1 -
born_of_fire74 wrote: »Most people in this world go on about their daily lives not doing squats, so in general yes, it is ok, no one ever died because of lack of squats. The question is what are you trying to achieve, and what your overall routine looks like. For me, doing for years a traditional large muscle teams routine, adjusting to a routine of no squats on drs orders (serious ankle injury and bearing any weight is off limits forever) has been extremely challenging and after two years I am still not happy with any alternative.
Disagree with bolded part. The average person will die if they can’t squat. If you can’t squat, you cannot live independently, will end up in a nursing home. The inability to squat is usually tied to overall health decline and loss of function. There are exceptions to this for disabled people who have adapted well, but even so they will have a shorter life span.
No, you won’t die tomorrow or even next year for most, but squatting is the most important exercise for maintaining functioning. Young people won’t get it, but anyone over 50 will. Maybe I should put this in Debate forum.
To add to this, for most people around the globe, a squat is a position of repose. Because we mainly sit on furniture here in the west, we are generally unable to squat. We have the ability when we're children to squat restfully but we lose it over time because we don't keep at it. We are not built for sitting on furniture and it is actually quite terrible for our bodies!
Squatting is a good measure of overall health and fitness. One should be able to squat comfortably with their feet flat on the ground well into their advanced years, like this old Asian lady:
Or this old Asian dude:
Considering that the OP was talking about squatting for building strength, I have to assume that @aggelikik is talking about squats for exercise, not the basic squatting movement. Yes, it's important to be mobile even into old age. Even weight bearing exercise is great to keep up with in old age. But no body is going to die if they do lunges or step ups instead of squats.
I’m not sure how you propose to separate the two as the range of motion is required whether you do them weighted or unweighted. That’s like saying I quit walking and it’s fine because I have no plans to race walk.4 -
I know I need to update my profile picture first off. Lol I recently switch off squats to a leg press hip thrust combo. I am not into power lifting, so I figured I don't need squats. Besides, my form is horrid at best. I found I was putting unneeded stress on knees and hips. As a person who walks a lot, I want to protect my legs at all cost.1
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psychod787 wrote: »I know I need to update my profile picture first off. Lol I recently switch off squats to a leg press hip thrust combo. I am not into power lifting, so I figured I don't need squats. Besides, my form is horrid at best. I found I was putting unneeded stress on knees and hips. As a person who walks a lot, I want to protect my legs at all cost.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Thats what I meant.
I have no clue why others were being rude.
You are such a sweetheart.3 -
no squat no gains10
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Priyanka2883 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »I know I need to update my profile picture first off. Lol I recently switch off squats to a leg press hip thrust combo. I am not into power lifting, so I figured I don't need squats. Besides, my form is horrid at best. I found I was putting unneeded stress on knees and hips. As a person who walks a lot, I want to protect my legs at all cost.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Thats what I meant.
I have no clue why others were being rude.
You are such a sweetheart.
Most people aren't being rude - you just asked a poor/incomplete/unclear question... one that is virtually impossible to answer, never mind actually offer any help/advice in regards to. Thus all the follow-up questions.4 -
Priyanka2883 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »I know I need to update my profile picture first off. Lol I recently switch off squats to a leg press hip thrust combo. I am not into power lifting, so I figured I don't need squats. Besides, my form is horrid at best. I found I was putting unneeded stress on knees and hips. As a person who walks a lot, I want to protect my legs at all cost.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Thats what I meant.
I have no clue why others were being rude.
You are such a sweetheart.
People who tell you the answer you want to hear are not necessarily sweethearts, they are telling you what you want to hear. People who don’t tell you what you want to hear aren’t being rude, they just aren’t telling you what you want to hear. Surrounding yourself with yes-men and only listening to people who agree with you is an unwise approach to life.
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born_of_fire74 wrote: »Priyanka2883 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »I know I need to update my profile picture first off. Lol I recently switch off squats to a leg press hip thrust combo. I am not into power lifting, so I figured I don't need squats. Besides, my form is horrid at best. I found I was putting unneeded stress on knees and hips. As a person who walks a lot, I want to protect my legs at all cost.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Thats what I meant.
I have no clue why others were being rude.
You are such a sweetheart.
People who tell you the answer you want to hear are not necessarily sweethearts, they are telling you what you want to hear. People who don’t tell you what you want to hear aren’t being rude, they just aren’t telling you what you want to hear. Surrounding yourself with yes-men and only listening to people who agree with you is an unwise approach to life.
Second, I am no "Yes man", I simply speak to what I know. This person is probably the first person on MFP to call me a sweet heart. I am a bit of a young cat head. I prefer the word yes person BTW. Using the word Men in such context is degrading to men.......4 -
Most people in this world go on about their daily lives not doing squats, so in general yes, it is ok, no one ever died because of lack of squats. The question is what are you trying to achieve, and what your overall routine looks like. For me, doing for years a traditional large muscle teams routine, adjusting to a routine of no squats on drs orders (serious ankle injury and bearing any weight is off limits forever) has been extremely challenging and after two years I am still not happy with any alternative.
Disagree with bolded part. The average person will die if they can’t squat. If you can’t squat, you cannot live independently, will end up in a nursing home. The inability to squat is usually tied to overall health decline and loss of function. There are exceptions to this for disabled people who have adapted well, but even so they will have a shorter life span.
No, you won’t die tomorrow or even next year for most, but squatting is the most important exercise for maintaining functioning. Young people won’t get it, but anyone over 50 will. Maybe I should put this in Debate forum.
You should post in the debate forum! I find that very interesting. I always notice how my 2 year old son will just pop a squat and play with his toys like that. I have the flexibility to sit like that, but it's definitely not comfortable in the slightest, and I always feel like I'm going to fall over.2 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises4 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Oft repeated and yet meaningless without context.
Back squats and deadlifts are the lifts through which most people can lift the most weight.
Back squats and deadlifts are not the best/most productive lifts for every lifter with every goal.8 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Oft repeated and yet meaningless without context.
Back squats and deadlifts are the lifts through which most people can lift the most weight.
Back squats and deadlifts are not the best/most productive lifts for every lifter with every goal.
Agreed, and thank you.6 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Oft repeated and yet meaningless without context.
Back squats and deadlifts are the lifts through which most people can lift the most weight.
Back squats and deadlifts are not the best/most productive lifts for every lifter with every goal.
Well it's just seems to me u r afraid of doing them because injury risks,
Well keep doing jumping jacks then till you get your gains7 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Oft repeated and yet meaningless without context.
Back squats and deadlifts are the lifts through which most people can lift the most weight.
Back squats and deadlifts are not the best/most productive lifts for every lifter with every goal.
Well it's just seems to me u r afraid of doing them because injury risks,
Well keep doing jumping jacks then till you get your gains
I squat and deadlift twice a week. Nice try though.4 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Oft repeated and yet meaningless without context.
Back squats and deadlifts are the lifts through which most people can lift the most weight.
Back squats and deadlifts are not the best/most productive lifts for every lifter with every goal.
Well it's just seems to me u r afraid of doing them because injury risks,
Well keep doing jumping jacks then till you get your gains
I squat and deadlift twice a week. Nice try though.
lol... aren't you DLing in your profile pic?1 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Oft repeated and yet meaningless without context.
Back squats and deadlifts are the lifts through which most people can lift the most weight.
Back squats and deadlifts are not the best/most productive lifts for every lifter with every goal.
Well it's just seems to me u r afraid of doing them because injury risks,
Well keep doing jumping jacks then till you get your gains
I squat and deadlift twice a week. Nice try though.
See! You gotta admit they're the best5 -
Most people in this world go on about their daily lives not doing squats, so in general yes, it is ok, no one ever died because of lack of squats. The question is what are you trying to achieve, and what your overall routine looks like. For me, doing for years a traditional large muscle teams routine, adjusting to a routine of no squats on drs orders (serious ankle injury and bearing any weight is off limits forever) has been extremely challenging and after two years I am still not happy with any alternative.
Disagree with bolded part. The average person will die if they can’t squat. If you can’t squat, you cannot live independently, will end up in a nursing home. The inability to squat is usually tied to overall health decline and loss of function. There are exceptions to this for disabled people who have adapted well, but even so they will have a shorter life span.
No, you won’t die tomorrow or even next year for most, but squatting is the most important exercise for maintaining functioning. Young people won’t get it, but anyone over 50 will. Maybe I should put this in Debate forum.
You should. You've said this before and I find it compelling enough to act on, but I'm the kind of person who likes to learn from other people's mistakes. Starting a thread will give the idea some visibility and maybe help more people.2 -
It depends on the benefit you're expecting to get from them.2
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psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Bro advice without context is bro advice. Nothing but chest thumping. There's a lot more nuance to the answer than that.Well keep doing jumping jacks then till you get your gains4 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Bro advice without context is bro advice. Nothing but chest thumping. There's a lot more nuance to the answer than that.
Kings of bodybuilding workouts, is that enough for u bro! 😂😂2 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Bro advice without context is bro advice. Nothing but chest thumping. There's a lot more nuance to the answer than that.Well keep doing jumping jacks then till you get your gains
GYM science... lol...
Well, I don't do squats anymore because of old injuries and training age. I have dislocated my patella in my right knee twice playing football when I was in college. I have the tendency to let my knees extend to far forward on my squat, thus putting strain on an already weakened patella tendon. Add in 20 years of being morbidly obese to the pressure on my joints and for me its a recipe for getting hurt. As goes the knee, generally, so goes the hip. I use walking as my primary calorie burner in my weight maintenance phase, so getting a knee injury would not be the greatest. I currently do my lower on a 2 day split. Leg press 8-12 reps at 9 RPE x5 sets, RDL repeat sets, leg extentions 15-20 x 2 with 4 rest pause sets and leg curls same, Calf raises 2x15-20 with 4 rest pause. Second day is the same expect sub hip thrust for RDL's. Do I miss getting under squats... well yeah...., but at my current age..... I will not let my pride rule me. As long as I am increasing volume progressively, I see some gains.3 -
Priyanka2883 wrote: »I don't feel that they were of any use. It's been 12 days I haven't done a single squat. Do tell is it okay?
You probably just maxed out your gains at your bodyweight. If you want to see real strength and muscle gains all over your body, do heavy squats. I did them for 3 days a week, alternating with deadlifts and other heavy leg exercises for about six months, and my legs completely changed.
I'm at 365lb squat now, and I actually decided to stop doing them so regularly because my legs are very muscular now.
But the thread where I asked for advice told me that I didn't gain any muscle in my legs at all, just lost fat, because getting skinny is where the muscles are. Apparently.
So I hear you on the people being rude part.
Just do you. It's your body.
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I like squats. Squats are good. I especially like them when they are heavy.0
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psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
I'm gonna second you on the compound lifts. My shoulders and traps are hard and visible and I haven't spent any time working them directly. And, sometimes my abs are sore after deadlifts and squats.
The problem with compound lifts is once you've achieved some level of muscularity.
Once you get there, you have to start specializing your exercises to get that asthetic you desire. Not everyone has the same body type or body goals and some prefer some muscles being more sizable than others. (Talking to you, curl bros!).
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psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Oft repeated and yet meaningless without context.
Back squats and deadlifts are the lifts through which most people can lift the most weight.
Back squats and deadlifts are not the best/most productive lifts for every lifter with every goal.
Well it's just seems to me u r afraid of doing them because injury risks,
Well keep doing jumping jacks then till you get your gains
I squat and deadlift twice a week. Nice try though.
lol... aren't you DLing in your profile pic?
Yes, yes I am1 -
psychod787 wrote: »
Yes you can bulid your legs with isolation exercises but compound exercises are on top.
Squats and deadlifts are the kings of of all exercises
Oft repeated and yet meaningless without context.
Back squats and deadlifts are the lifts through which most people can lift the most weight.
Back squats and deadlifts are not the best/most productive lifts for every lifter with every goal.
Well it's just seems to me u r afraid of doing them because injury risks,
Well keep doing jumping jacks then till you get your gains
wow... and I thought I was the guy at the gym people avoided...... I think I have found my replacement!4
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