Keto Diet (Do's and Don'ts)
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lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.
This Eric Berg? The chiropractor who has been fined and censured by the medical board in his state and ordered to cease and desist many of his fradulent scams?: https://casewatch.net/board/chiro/berg.shtml18 -
lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.
This Eric Berg? The chiropractor who has been fined and censured by the medical board in his state and ordered to cease and desist many of his fradulent scams?: https://casewatch.net/board/chiro/berg.shtml
None of that from ten years ago relates to keto however I will be a bit skeptical of any claim he makes. Not a big viewer of his videos anyway. Thanks for the post.8 -
lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.
This Eric Berg? The chiropractor who has been fined and censured by the medical board in his state and ordered to cease and desist many of his fradulent scams?: https://casewatch.net/board/chiro/berg.shtml
Dr. Eric bergs info works! Hes been dead on with any info I've needed...including blood pressure. His info on fat changed my whole way of thinking about the subject18 -
I've lost 130 pounds in the last 8 months on a low carb, moderate fat, higher protein keto diet. I OMAD. I am 10 pounds from my goal weight.
You don't need to eat a lot of bacon and butter to be Keto. Keto is simply LOW-CARB. The fat you don't put on your plate is drawn from your body. It's when you are at goal weight that you increase your fat intake (calories) to prevent further weight loss.
For the one meal I eat, at least 1/2 of my plate is a low carb vegetable, the other half is a lower fat protein, like chicken breast, center cut pork chops, a lean steak.
In the end, Keto is like any other diet. Calories in, calories out. The benefit of Keto, for me, is hunger control, a consistent energy level (no sugar highs and lows), and the lack of cravings for carbs and sugar.6 -
karenlong7 wrote: »I've lost 130 pounds in the last 8 months on a low carb, moderate fat, higher protein keto diet. I OMAD. I am 10 pounds from my goal weight.
You don't need to eat a lot of bacon and butter to be Keto. Keto is simply LOW-CARB. The fat you don't put on your plate is drawn from your body. It's when you are at goal weight that you increase your fat intake (calories) to prevent further weight loss.
For the one meal I eat, at least 1/2 of my plate is a low carb vegetable, the other half is a lower fat protein, like chicken breast, center cut pork chops, a lean steak.
In the end, Keto is like any other diet. Calories in, calories out. The benefit of Keto, for me, is hunger control, a consistent energy level (no sugar highs and lows), and the lack of cravings for carbs and sugar.
So not arguing with you, genuinely asking.. my understanding is a Keto Diet is burning fat instead of glucose for fuel, and if you have too much protein your body will convert it to sugar, therefore essentially treating it as a carb, ive read multiple books and more web pages than i can count that all state this. Am I incorrect in that? (I honestly hope I am because watching my protein level is harder than watching my carbs lol)1 -
lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.
Of ALL the people, he's the last I would recommend.7 -
datsundriver87 wrote: »karenlong7 wrote: »I've lost 130 pounds in the last 8 months on a low carb, moderate fat, higher protein keto diet. I OMAD. I am 10 pounds from my goal weight.
You don't need to eat a lot of bacon and butter to be Keto. Keto is simply LOW-CARB. The fat you don't put on your plate is drawn from your body. It's when you are at goal weight that you increase your fat intake (calories) to prevent further weight loss.
For the one meal I eat, at least 1/2 of my plate is a low carb vegetable, the other half is a lower fat protein, like chicken breast, center cut pork chops, a lean steak.
In the end, Keto is like any other diet. Calories in, calories out. The benefit of Keto, for me, is hunger control, a consistent energy level (no sugar highs and lows), and the lack of cravings for carbs and sugar.
So not arguing with you, genuinely asking.. my understanding is a Keto Diet is burning fat instead of glucose for fuel, and if you have too much protein your body will convert it to sugar, therefore essentially treating it as a carb, ive read multiple books and more web pages than i can count that all state this. Am I incorrect in that? (I honestly hope I am because watching my protein level is harder than watching my carbs lol)
Gluconeogenesis does occur when your body needs glucose. But even so, your body converts proteins and fat into glucose.
Even do the of rate of fat oxidation vs glucose oxidation really doesnt matter. Burning "fat" or fat oxidation doesnt mean body fat. It can, but it can also mean stored fat or recently consumed fat.
If you are concerned about anything, it shoule be protein levels. Often people do not get enough protein while dieting which can have poor effects on the body (like muscle loss).4 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.
Of ALL the people, he's the last I would recommend.
Who's your go to ketonians...I've kinda turned into a keto info junky lol.1 -
etaylor704 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.
Of ALL the people, he's the last I would recommend.
Who's your go to ketonians...I've kinda turned into a keto info junky lol.
Lyle McDonald is one of the most unbiased sources of solid keto nutrition. And unlike chiropractors and celebrity trainers, he actually is educated in the field.7 -
"So not arguing with you, genuinely asking.. my understanding is a Keto Diet is burning fat instead of glucose for fuel, and if you have too much protein your body will convert it to sugar, therefore essentially treating it as a carb, ive read multiple books and more web pages than i can count that all state this. Am I incorrect in that? (I honestly hope I am because watching my protein level is harder than watching my carbs lol)."
Dr. Stephen Phinney and Jeff Volek (The Art and Science)of Low-Carbohydrate Living are the leading authorities on the Ketogenic diet. There is a ton of information on their blog called Virtahealth.com.
Your body burns ketones for fuel. If you are giving it no ready supply of carbs to turn in to glucose, it has to turn to ketones. The fuel source for ketones is fat, be it from your body or your diet. Naturally, it will burn the dietary fat first because it's easiest. Then it turns to stored fats.
I eat from .8g to 1.2 g of protein for every kg of lean body mass. This amount protects your body from muscle loss during weight loss.
I eat a minimum of 50g of fat every day because that is how much fat your brain needs to function adequately.
I eat 20g or less of net carbs a day.
I supplement sodium, and magnesium (malate) and get my potassium from green leafy vegetables. I also take a multi-vitamin, and kelp based Omega-3's as I cannot consume fish or shellfish.
I feel great. My lab reports all come back excellent. My mind is clear. I have energy, no cravings, little hunger. My weight is in the normal range for the first time in over 25 years.
I will eat Ketogenically for the remainder of my life. I don't ever, ever, want to go back to the way I was before. I was dying from obesity.
I am quite aware that there are many naysayers that don't agree with this WOE. Great. Don't eat this way if you don't believe in it. However, you should try it before you dismiss it. A month or two eating Ketogenically is not that difficult. In fact, the longer you do it, the easier it gets, just like anything you practice. Just know that it does work for some people, and works very well.5 -
datsundriver87 wrote: »karenlong7 wrote: »I've lost 130 pounds in the last 8 months on a low carb, moderate fat, higher protein keto diet. I OMAD. I am 10 pounds from my goal weight.
You don't need to eat a lot of bacon and butter to be Keto. Keto is simply LOW-CARB. The fat you don't put on your plate is drawn from your body. It's when you are at goal weight that you increase your fat intake (calories) to prevent further weight loss.
For the one meal I eat, at least 1/2 of my plate is a low carb vegetable, the other half is a lower fat protein, like chicken breast, center cut pork chops, a lean steak.
In the end, Keto is like any other diet. Calories in, calories out. The benefit of Keto, for me, is hunger control, a consistent energy level (no sugar highs and lows), and the lack of cravings for carbs and sugar.
So not arguing with you, genuinely asking.. my understanding is a Keto Diet is burning fat instead of glucose for fuel, and if you have too much protein your body will convert it to sugar, therefore essentially treating it as a carb, ive read multiple books and more web pages than i can count that all state this. Am I incorrect in that? (I honestly hope I am because watching my protein level is harder than watching my carbs lol)
You'd have to eat a crap ton of protein, like well over a pound, in one sitting to have the excess convert to glucose. Anyway, on keto, your body still burn glucose from the minimal carbs you do eat. It burns them first (rapidly) and then goes back to the ketones. This is why some "Keto-ers" can have cheat days. They eat carbs, quickly burn them off, and switch back when they resume the low carb eating. Do it often enough and you'll screw yourself up, but once your body is accustomed to burning ketones instead of fat, it switches easily.
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etaylor704 wrote: »lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.
This Eric Berg? The chiropractor who has been fined and censured by the medical board in his state and ordered to cease and desist many of his fradulent scams?: https://casewatch.net/board/chiro/berg.shtml
Dr. Eric bergs info works! Hes been dead on with any info I've needed...including blood pressure. His info on fat changed my whole way of thinking about the subject
Dr. Berg's info on the health benefits, and physical results of a ketogenic way of eating seem spot on, however, he makes the diet far more complicated than it needs to be.
You don't HAVE to eat grass fed butter and beef, free-range chicken and eggs, 7 to 10 cups of dark leafy green, and slather imported oil grown on olive trees planted in the prehistoric swamps of the Mediterranian on your avacado. You don't even need to eat avacado.
Regular butter, beef from your local grocery store, any choice of low-carb vegetables, and eggs on sale this week will work just fine.
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Absolutely agree!etaylor704 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.
Of ALL the people, he's the last I would recommend.
Who's your go to ketonians...I've kinda turned into a keto info junky lol.
Lyle McDonald is one of the most unbiased sources of solid keto nutrition. And unlike chiropractors and celebrity trainers, he actually is educated in the field.
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I'm Deb. 5 foot tall and 180 now. I've lost 70 pounds in the last 5 months with Keto and Intermittent fasting!
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debkasper1 wrote: »I'm Deb. 5 foot tall and 180 now. I've lost 70 pounds in the last 5 months with Keto and Intermittent fasting!
Great job!!!!1 -
lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.dangerousdashie wrote: »Hey I’ve been keto for 4+ years. Bacon and butter are not necessarily bad for you. What exactly are you concerned about regarding those ingredients?
I just seen the replies to the post today. I've been following Dr. Berg for a little while now, and realized, not just from his research but other doctors, that I've had my idea of what fats are good and bad are wrong. I had been mostly concerned with cholesterol levels but he explained very well how Keto helps.
Though the diet seems a little too good to be true in some ways. It also seems very difficult in others. I've been on a little experiment to see if this is the route I want to go. I'm finding it difficult to get the amount of fat that was recommended to me. (75% Fat, 20% Protein, 5% Carbs). My carb intake though I can get it really low (compared to my normal intake) it still reaches to about 10-20%. Even when looking for "Keto recipes". A lot of people are focusing on low carbs only. Rather than low carbs, high fat. How do I get more fats in my diet?
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elijahwilliams314 wrote: »lauren_swee wrote: »If you want some good info and videos, follow dr Eric Berg. He is great at explaining everything and why Keto is good to combine with IF.dangerousdashie wrote: »Hey I’ve been keto for 4+ years. Bacon and butter are not necessarily bad for you. What exactly are you concerned about regarding those ingredients?
I just seen the replies to the post today. I've been following Dr. Berg for a little while now, and realized, not just from his research but other doctors, that I've had my idea of what fats are good and bad are wrong. I had been mostly concerned with cholesterol levels but he explained very well how Keto helps.
Though the diet seems a little too good to be true in some ways. It also seems very difficult in others. I've been on a little experiment to see if this is the route I want to go. I'm finding it difficult to get the amount of fat that was recommended to me. (75% Fat, 20% Protein, 5% Carbs). My carb intake though I can get it really low (compared to my normal intake) it still reaches to about 10-20%. Even when looking for "Keto recipes". A lot of people are focusing on low carbs only. Rather than low carbs, high fat. How do I get more fats in my diet?
I would never stress about getting more fat. If anything, i would ensure you are getting adequate protein. Depending on your calorie level 20% might not be enough.3 -
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elijahwilliams314 wrote: »
Personally, I would cut some of the fat and replace it with protein. To reach ketosis, fat isn't the magic macro - super low carbs is the magic. Fat is used as a filler to replace the calories from the carbs.6 -
The dietdoctor website and also Dr Ken Berry has some very good info on keto. I have been keto for about 11 months. I am fairly strict and lost 35.5kg in a little over 8 months and have been maintaining for nealrly 3 months. My health has improved since starting this way of life (for life it is, not a short quick fix diet) and I am no longer showing insulin resistance. No more high blood pressure and no more reflux. I do not often eat bacon, though do have butter every day. Keto is about high fat (with the emphasis on healthy fats), moderate protein and restricted carbs. This way of eating is not for everyone but can be of great benefit to some. Do your research properly before starting, if you choose to try keto, as this will help you avoid some of the pitfalls and traps and sort the good info from the bad or downright crazy.6
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