JUST GIVE ME 10 DAYS - ROUND 55
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quiltingjaine wrote: »@sweetmellymel typo?
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Round 52 SW: 204
Round 52 EW: 202
Round 53 EW: 198
Round 54 EW: 195
Goal: whatever these 10 days bring!
Happy so far .. I’ll stick with no specific goal for the round. I’d like to be 160 generally, but my ultimate stretch goal is 150
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quiltingjaine wrote: »Another comment was to Tish, @tiabirdie56 I saw the picture of your beautiful flowers and assumed they are for Breast Cancer Awareness but seem to have missed exactly what the wall is.
@quiltingjaine, " ...honestly, sometimes I want to reach through the internet and whack some in the head!"
Lol, Yes to this!
My girlfriend is holding a breast cancer event at her church and wanted a flower wall as a photo backdrop for attendees. We couldn't find or afford
enough pink silk flowers to make it, so I made the paper flowers to fill the perimeter. I will take a photo of the completed backdrop and post it on our thread. I think it's going to be really pretty.
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33yo, Female, 2nd roundLost -4.2lbs last round, 171.2lbs last weigh-in 10/4/18
10/05- 171.2 Hit the gym this morning for weights/cardio feeling good, will focus on staying with calorie goal today. My weekend goals are to do at least 45mins cardio on Saturday and Sunday weights/cardio again.
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I’m in for round 55 after a break
This will be my 8th round.USW 6th of May: 210 lbs
UGW: 144 lbs
Challenge goal weight: 169.9 lbs
Previous rounds:
R39 SW: 196.2 lbs EW: 190.7 lbs (-5.5)
R46 SW: 185.8 lbs EW: 183.4 lbs (-2.4)
R47 SW: 182.8 lbs EW: 178.6 lbs (-4.2)
R48 SW: 178.2 EW: 180.1 (+1.9)
R49 SW: 182.1 EW: 180.2 (-1.9)
R50 SW: 180.0 EW: 175.9 (-4.1)
R51 SW: 175.3 EW: 172.6 (-2.7)
10/05 – 171.2 lbs Been very slow after the huge losses I had in my last three rounds. Went to the gym today and had a really good workout with my physical therapist. I work out 3 times a week now, and this feels like the perfect amount of workouts for me now. Been having a lot of issues with the mobile app lately, so I haven't been tempted to struggle with forum posts everyday. So slow and it's crashing all the time
Been logging everyday and staying under my calorie goal since the last time I was participating in this challenge. I have been weighing once a week, was kinda nice to have a break from the daily weigh-ins. I have also chosen to open my diary to friends to hold my self accountable.
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Female, 5' 4 1/2 " age 53
OSW 199 (June 15 2018)
Pre-challenge start weight 177
R54 SW 177 EW 175 (-2.0)
CW 175
RGW 173
UGW 140-145
Goals--
Carbs < 40-
Steps/day > 12000
Exercise/walk 6 of 7 days/week
Day/Weight/Comment
10/05 – 174.5 (There’s that < 175 from last challenge!) Good day yesterday. Exercised. Ate in a smaller window yesterday and had an awesome, huge egg/sausage/cheese/spinach scramble for dinner!
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R1: Lost 1.7 (SW 196.8 EW 195.1)
R2: Lost 0.7 (SW 195.1 EW 194.4)
R3: Gained 3.7 (SW 194.4 EW 198.1)
R4: Lost 2.8 (SW 198.1 EW 195.3)
R5: Lost 1.1 (SW 195.3 EW 194.2)
R6: Lost 0.8 (SW 194.2 EW 193.4)
R7: Lost 0.2 (SW 188.7 EW 188.5)
R8: Lost 1.7 (SW 188.9 EW 187.2)
CW: 187.2
GW: 184.0
I HAVE to reach my goal this time. I'm going to make it happen.
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10/5- 186.3- I don't want to get too excited because I'm just going to jinx myself again lol. But I'm happy the scale is going back down again! No rice until I hit my goal! I really want to get to 185.0 though. I've been hovering in the upper 180s for a while now. Gotta get down to the lower 180s. Going to make this round the round I get to it! It's Friday but I'll try to do well today so the scale goes down some more. REALLY want to get to 185.something!
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Hello
Mâle, 48yo
Round 49: SW 186 EW: 184.53 (1.47 lbs lost this round)
Round 50: SW 184.53 EW: 178.79 ( 5 .74 lbs lost this round)
Round 51: SW 178.79 EW: 175.92 lbs (2.87 lost this round)
Round 52: SW 175.92 lbs EW: 171.96 lbs (3.96 Lost this round)
Round 53: SW 171.96 lbs EW: 171.56 lbs (0.40 lbs Lost this round)
Round 54: SW 171.56lbs EW: 166.44 lbs ( 5.12 lbs Lost this round)
Round 55: SW 166.44 lbs EW:
Total lost so far (all rounds) : 19.56 lbs
My goal for this ound: to bé under 160 lbs
Day/Weight/Comment
10/5- 168.65 (2,21 gain) a very bad start
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I weigh everyday anyway but only track it on here once a week. I feel like it reminds me everyday that I will be answering to that scale and I don't want it to go up. It does anyway and I try to keep in mind that it's water or hormones or I need a hair cut. Anyway I'm happy to join this challenge.8
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F/24/5'1"
OSW: 85kg
CW:81.6kg
RGW: 79kg
UGW: 55kg
Day/Weight/Comment
10/5 - 81.4kg, only down .2 from yesterday, did eat pretty awful dinner (under cals but high sodium), and didn’t drink a lot of water. Happy to see a loss either way
10/6- 81.6kg, Friday seems to be a hard day for me (it’s a ‘weekend’ day). I definitely stayed under calories, but ate out and had food that was hard to track. I worked out for 30 mins, and drank plenty of water, so pretty annoyed that I’ve gone up again
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Age: 39
Height: 5'9"
Historical SW: 251.6 lbs 9/14/2015
Restart W: 230.8 12/26/2017
JGM SW: 222.7 (2/7/2018)
R31 EW: 218.6 ✔️ Goal
R32 EW: 215.8 ✔️Goal
R33 EW: 213 ✔️Goal
R34 EW: 211.3 ✖️
R35 EW: 208.1 ✔️Goal
R36 EW: 212.2 ✖️
R39 EW: 210.2 ✔️ Goal
R40 EW: 206.9 ✔️ Goal
R41 EW: 201.4 ✔️ Goal
R42 EW: 200.1 ✖️ (saw 199.9)
R43 EW: ??? ✖️ (Camping, no scale)
R44 EW: 201.2 ✔️ Goal
R47 EW: 201.2 ✖️
R54 EW: 214.1 ✔️
Goal: Release 2 lbs per round.
Ultimate Goal: 175 lbs, reevaluate at that point
🍂🍁October🍁🍂
5: 218.1... I had a pre-planned dinner & wine date with a friend last night that had to come after an away soccer game. Needless to say, dinner was quite late, so no IF... plus a few glasses of wine. No gym today either because I have blisters from the last 3 days of going.
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ROUND 55 (Round 2 for me)
5’5” 65 y/o Texas Lady
SW 178 lb.
GW 140 lb.
Round 54 – SW 178 lb. down to 171.8 lb. (6.2 lb. loss) This was my beginning of eating keto and tracking calories. I expect more realistic loss this round, but loss, none the less!
Day/Weight/Comment
10/05 171.6 I’m happy to be starting another round! I had BBQ ribs, brisket, and sausage last night, but only one small bite of German Potato Salad. I am tempted by the carbs. After a big breakfast with our guests from Zimbabwe, Thor (my GSD) and I walked a little over 3 miles. I took water for both of us this time. Someone took my water before I returned for it, but I drank a little of Thor’s water (out of the jar, not out of his bowl). We walked a little slower than usual since I had a full tummy from breakfast.
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I'm a mother of 3 trying to get in shape and be a positive role model for my kids. Feel free to add me to your friends list so we can support each other!
F/30/5'6"
CSW: 248.2 lbs
CGW: 246.0 lbs
UGW: 140.0 lbs
Round 53 SW 255.0 EW 249.2 = - 5.8
Round 54 SW 249.2 EW 248.2 = - 1.0
Day/Weight/Comment
10/05: 248.2 - No change in weight today. I'm hoping to see more of a downward trend this round now that TOM has passed.
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MY NAME IS DONNA. I AM 58 YEARS OLD & FROM THE MIDWEST. I AM APPROX 5’ 5” TALL.
ROUND 13 FOR ME.
SOMETIMES I GIVE IN………BUT I NEVER GIVE UP!
Goals:
1. To be an inspiration to my 22 year old Autistic son who started his weight loss journey on
May 1, 2018 weighing 308.4. His current weight is 276.8 .
2. Weight Goal this round: 172.6 (2.0 lb. loss)
3. No Bingeing (new attitude on food outside of my home and socially)
4. 20-50 Net Carbs Daily. 1277 Calories Daily.
5. 10,000 steps per day. Mixed modes of exercise.
6. Lots of water, green tea daily, apple cider vinegar before carby meals.
7. Check my blood sugar daily for improvements.
MY STATS:
Highest weight ever (2014/2015): 253
Original starting weight for this current journey : (1-11-2018) 235.0
My Final Goal: To weight 145 by Valentine’s Day
LOOK AND SEE HOW MUCH THESE 10 DAY CHALLENGES HAVE HELPED MER43 EW= 195.6.....LOST
R44 EW= 192.4…..LOST
R45 EW= 191.4…..LOST
R46 EW= 186.0….LOST
R47 EW= 186.8…..SLIGHT GAIN/FLUCTUATION
R48 EW= 185.4…..LOST
R49 EW= 182.8…..LOST
R50 EW= 180.8…..LOST
R51 EW= 179.6…..LOST
R52 EW= 179.0…..LOST
R53 EW= 176.0…..LOST
R54 EW= 174.6
R55 EW= TBD
Day/Weight/Comment:
10/05 - 174.8 Out to the Pool Hall with a neighbor friend last night which includes pot luck. Haven’t been there in a few weeks, I had lots of fun. I ate very reasonable quantities and made sure I didn’t show up starving. But I did have a small bump up in weight this morning which is not surprising since most of the foods had more carbs than I would normally consume. I have already been battling some water bloat and this didn’t help. But, boy oh boy, did I ever need to get away from my home/business! I don’t play pool, I just watch my friend. I was a good girl and stuck to just drinking a pitcher of water. So I’m happy that it wasn’t worse. I haven't had a good fast overnight whoosh in a while. Hey, I can dream, can't I ?
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Round 54 SW 199. EW 200.8
Round 55
Goal: Get under 200 pounds and stay under 200. Stay under calorie goal (1500 calories). Exercise or walk at least 30 minutes a day. Drink at least 64 oz of water a day.
10/05- 199.8. Over calories. I was doing good until the end of the day. One mini snickers turned into too many mini snickers! 1 hour of exercise. 64 oz of water.
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workoutcreek wrote: »Good Friday Morning Everyone! The best thing I could do is weigh-in, show up here post.. to get back on the daily accountability track!
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I really love this challenge and the participants, it makes me under control somehow. Even I cannot reach my goals, it's really better than nothing. So the previous challenge I really lost a little weight (0.3 kg/0.9 lbs) and that motivated me.
My goals for this challenge:- Drink enough water
- Exercise 3-4 times in a week
- Try to not eat junk food and drink max 3 glasses of alcohol in a week (I don't wanna be hard on myself because I can't)
- Eat nutritious food not just all carbs
10/5 85.3 kg (188 lbs)
I got really sick yesterday, I was exhausted, lost too much water, however, also drank so much water. I couldn't eat enough.
10/6 85.1 kg (187.6 lbs)
Yesterday I was still sick, and I couldn't move and couldn't eat enough. I'm not sure that this number is my true weight or not. But I hope I could see 84's in this challenge.
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Back to mfp after a long time! This challenge would be perfect for me right now to get me started.
SW : 178.2
GW : 154 (first goal [taking one step at a time] )
CW : 171.6
10/5 - 171.6
10/6 - 170.5 My goal today is to get hydrated enough and eat clean.
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I’m in for round 55 after a break This will be my 8th round.USW 6th of May: 210 lbs
UGW: 144 lbs
Challenge goal weight: 169.9 lbs
Previous rounds:
R39 SW: 196.2 lbs EW: 190.7 lbs (-5.5)
R46 SW: 185.8 lbs EW: 183.4 lbs (-2.4)
R47 SW: 182.8 lbs EW: 178.6 lbs (-4.2)
R48 SW: 178.2 EW: 180.1 (+1.9)
R49 SW: 182.1 EW: 180.2 (-1.9)
R50 SW: 180.0 EW: 175.9 (-4.1)
R51 SW: 175.3 EW: 172.6 (-2.7)
10/05 – 171.2 lbs Been very slow after the huge losses I had in my last three rounds. Went to the gym today and had a really good workout with my physical therapist. I work out 3 times a week now, and this feels like the perfect amount of workouts for me now. Been having a lot of issues with the mobile app lately, so I haven't been tempted to struggle with forum posts everyday. So slow and it's crashing all the time Been logging everyday and staying under my calorie goal since the last time I was participating in this challenge. I have been weighing once a week, was kinda nice to have a break from the daily weigh-ins. I have also chosen to open my diary to friends to hold my self accountable.
10/06 - 170.1 (-1.1) Had to step on the scale 3 times to make sure this was right 😂 Awesome!
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Heaviest:193
CW:190.2
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10/05 - 188 - I know this is because I am at the beginning but happy still. Onwards and hopefully downwards
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JGM10D ~|~ Round 55
I am FOCUSED on heathy food choices and DETERMINED to achieve my goals!
Previous roundsAge: 72; Height 5’2”; FemaleDaily Goals
SW: 227lbs (Mar 2014)
LW: 153 (Oct 2016)
Round 47: SW: 173.6; GW: 170; EW: 168.4
Round 48: SW: 168.4; GW: 167; EW: 167.4
Round 49: SW: 168.4; GW: 166; EW: 167.4 (at least I didn't gain!)
Round 50: SW: 167.4; GW: 166.x; EW: 166.8 ✅ Result!!!
Round 51: SW: 167.1; GW: 166.x; EW: 167.0
Round 52/3 on vacation.
Round 54: SW: 166.8 GW: 166.4Daily Goals04/10: 166.4: Goals ✅ 👌🏻 Happy that I have maintained my gentle downward trend
Food
~ Pre-log; stay under goal; balance macros/micros; Hydrate adequately; NLNS!!!
Cardio:
~ 9,500+ Steps daily
~ 30+ minutes HIIT
Strength:
~ 15+ mins lower body physio daily
~ 10+ minutes arms/core/abs
Flexibility:
~ 5 mins stretch before/after workouts
~ 10+ mins yoga/tai chi
Daily Mindfulness Practice/meditation
15 mins Daily Declutter session
Round 55 GW: 166
05/10: 167.2: Goals Meh!!! Not really surprising as I had an all day event yesterday which didn't finish until after 8 pm, and although I was under goal, hydration was iffy, and I didn't have time to do much exercise.
06/10: 167.1: Goals ✅ Still recovering from Thursday.
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THERE ARE NO QUICK FIXES OR SHORTCUTS to achieve permanent change.
REMINDERS One or two thoughts which might give heart to some of you.Stick with the process. It DOES work! But it does take time, effort, and most of all, patience!- Daily weight fluctuations are normal, and can be as much as 2 lbs a day for no apparent reason.
- A general downward trend is what we are looking for.
- Eating out can cause apparent weight gain because of high sodium levels, but usually goes quickly. Drinking extra water helps with this.
- The human body does not react instantly to what we do to it. Sometimes it can take several days to see results.
- Plateaus are a normal part of the process. The body is consolidating and adapting to your new way of eating/exercising.
- The closer you get to your goal weight, the more difficult it becomes to lose weight, as your body becomes more efficient at using what you feed it.
- When you exercise you build muscle, which takes up less space than fat, so use measurements as well as weight to assess your progress.
- Getting/Staying fit and healthy requires a lifestyle change for most people.
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Female, 46yo, 5’4”
SW: 289.2 (8/1/18)
CW: 270.4 (-18.8)
IGW: 259 by 10/31/18
R54 (my 1st) SW 271.4 EW 270.4 (-1.0)
Goals this round:
Log food in MFP 10/10 days
>1200 <1420 calories 8/10 days
Drink 54+oz water 8/10 days (this will be my 1st round trying to log qty water)
100+g protein 7/10 days
Intentional Exercise 5/10 days
Weight <= 268.4 (>=2 lb loss)
Round 55
10/05: 269.6 (-0.8) Yay! So happy to see that 2nd digit go down, now to keep it there for the rest of this round. 1223 calories, 104g protein, 56oz water
10/06: 269.8 (+0.2)
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R50/My 11th EW: 172 (+1.4) AW: 170.6
R51/My 12th EW: 167.4 (-4.6) AW: 168.9
R52/My 13th EW: 170.0 (+2.6) AW: 169.5
R53/My 14th EW: 170.4 (-0.4) AW: 170.54
R54/My 14th EW: 172.0 (+1.2) AW: 171.1
Day/Weight/Comment
10/5: 171
10/6: 171.4, date night last night!
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Michelle 37 from Dublin, Ireland
Height: 5'9"
SW: 99.2kg | UGW: 70kg
I really really want to achieve my goal weight before April 2019 as I want to wow everyone when I cross the stage to pick up my MSc! :-)R33 SW 99.2 EW 97.2kg (-2kg)R54 SW 99.2 GW 98.0kg
R34 SW 97.1 EW 98.1kg(+1kg)
R35 SW 98.6 EW 98.2kg (-0.4kg)
R36 SW 98.0 EW 96.7kg
R37 SW 97.2 EW 96.2kg
R38 SW 96.8 EW 95.6kg
R39 SW 95.6 EW 95.9kg
R40 SW 95.9 EW 95.5kg
R54 SW 99.2 EW 98.8kg
Day/Weight/Comment
10/5 99.2 Bit of an up to start me off....
10/6 98.8 woohoo! Nice run this morning, now out to work in the garden!
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Continuing my dietitian-designed 6-8 week anti-inflammation elimination diet. This round will see me through week 4. So far, so good!
Goals:
Food ~~ Follow anti-inflammation elimination diet - learn new food tricks! Calories <1330.
Exercise ~~ 60-90 minutes 5-6 days/week of walking/swimming; weight training 3 days/week.
Weight ~~ stay below 137.
UGW - 135 +/- 2
HSW - 218.2 (Feb. 2015)
OSW - 151.8 (Aug. 31, 2016)
Weight on 2/2015 - 218.2
Lost 75#, regained 12 (to 156) on metabolism reset 11/16-6/17. FIrst round (R15) Aug. 2017.R15 end weight 151.2R54 end weight 136.6 (-.6); 10-day ave 1238
R16 end weight 151.4 (+.2)
R17 end weight 151 (-.4)
R18 end weight 150.4 (-.6)
R19 end weight 149.6 (-.8)
R20 end weight 149.3 (-.3)
R21 end weight 149 (-.3)
R22 end weight 148 (-1)
R23 end weight 148.4 (+.4)
R24 end weight 149 (+.6)
R25 end weight 148.4 (-.6)
R26 end weight 149.2 (+.8)
R27 end weight 149 (-.2)
R28 end weight 146.8 (-2.2)
R29 end weight 146.8 (+/-0)
R30 end weight 146.8 (+/-0); ave net calories 1411
R31 end weight 146.8 (+/-0); ave net calories 1385
R32 end weight unknown - traveling, no scale - ave net calories 1468
R33 end weight 149.1 (+2.3); ave calories 1471 (after traveling/eating out for 3 weeks!)
R34 end weight 149 (-.1); ave calories 1577
R35 end weight 149.4 (+.4); ave calories 1592
R36 end weight 149.6 (+.2); ave calories 1650
R37 end weight 151 (+1.4); ave calories 1703 (154 over estimated TDEE, so no surprise I've gained)
R38 end weight 149.8 (-1.2); averages-- calories 1420; carbs ~48%; protein ~21% ; fat ~31%
R39 end weight 149.8 (+/-0); averages -- calories 1753.5; carbs ~47%; protein ~20%; fat ~33%
R40 end weight 150 (+.2); averages coming later
R41 end weight 150.8 (+.8); 10-day ave 1792
R42 end weight 149.8 (-1); 10-day ave 1432
R43 end weight 150.6 (+.8): 10-day ave 1406
R44 end weight 148.8 (-1.8); 10-day ave 1430
R45 end weight 147.6 (-1.2); 10-day ave 1338
R46 end weight 148.8 (+.8); 10-day ave 1437
R47 end weight 147.8 (-1); 10-day ave 1449
R48 end weight 146.8 (-1); 10-day ave 1378
R49 end weight 144.2 (-2.6); 10-day ave 1174
R50 end weight 142.2 (-2); 10-day ave 1200
R51 end weight 141 (-1.2); 10 day ave 1231
R52 end weight 140.6 (-.4); 10-day ave 1192
R53 end weight 137.2 (-3.4); 10-day ave 1134
Day/Weight/Calories Day Before/10-day ave/Comment
10/05 - 136.8 - 1097 - 10-day ave 1229
Chilly rain this morning, but it's supposed to clear up this afternoon so I should get a nice outdoor walk.
10/06 137.2 - 1206 - 10-day ave 1219
Hmmmm. Who knows? It's a bit warmer today, and rain this afternoon, so I'm hoping to get a nice walk in this morning. Have a great weekend, all!
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Round 8
49 year old female - 5'7" from the Midwest
OSW: 200.4
Rnd 1: -3
Rnd 2: - 2.8
Rnd 3: -.4
Rnd 4: +1.4
Rnd 5: -4.4
Rnd 6: -1.6 (end weight 187)
Rnd 7: +1.6
UGW: 165
Day/Weight/Comment
10/05 - 185.8!
10/06 - 186.4 - starting back to working out today (took a week off to rest some injuries)
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Round 55
SW: 74kg May 2018
GW: below 70kg in Oct and stay there
UGW: below 65 by end of the year
Rounds 47-54 EW: 73-72kg with loads of fluctuations and excuses to over eat.
Day/Weight/Comment
10/05 71kg. New round new determination. Fell off the waggon a bit the last round, but went for a short run this morning. However, the excuses for emotional eating won't stop: It looks like we'll have to put down our 6months old kitten. She's in hospital now and they can't figure out what is wrong with her, none of the tests have shown anything conclusive so far.
10/06 70.8-ish not quite 70.5 yet, but below 71kg. Ate over yesterday, but ran, walked and went boxing in the eve.
Just spoke to the vet and it looks like they have a good idea of what she has (a liver shunt) and in many cases that can be managed with meds and food. And the vet said she's such a little fighter, it would be a shame not to try!!! So we'll pick her up this afternoon - probably much to the dismay of our other cats. And sod the weight and food logging for another day or so. The last few days have been so emotional. I'll get back to it on Monday
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Back for another Round. This will be Round 6 for me. Lots of up and down with not much progress the last few rounds. Time to get consistent and off this merry go round.
69 YO Texas Male
Highest Weight 290
Start this Round 271
Goal this Round 269
Round 50 EW 277 (-13 lbs)
Round 51 EW 284 (+7 lbs)
Round 52 EW 271 (-13 lbs)
Round 53 EW 276 (+5 lbs)
Round 54 EW 271 (-5 lbs)
10/4 - 271 lbs Here we are again. I've seen this number too many times lately. Time to let it go!
10/5 – 269 lbs (-2 lbs) Well there ya go. Hit my goal from challenge we just finished. Missed it by one day! Well I'll reset my goal for this round to 267. I'm looking to average 2 lbs a week. It's a reasonable goal and I know there will be challenge rounds that I miss my target. I will look to my 30 day trend to see my overall progress. I get inspiration from all of you here who are going through the same ups and downs but are sticking with it. Have a great weekend everyone!
10/6 – 269lbs (No Change) Not unexpected after the quick drop yesterday. Still on track food wise. Been having lots of salads for dinner and got off peanuts and on to grapes for snack. Will see if that works out better. Much less salt but more sugar. Oh well its a process.. Change is good anyhow.
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