November 2018 Monthly Running Challenge
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For November I will shoot for 80 miles.
I'm gradually building up my mileage, trying to prevent injuries.
I get injured more easily than I have in the past - more hamstring pulls and my back acts up every so often. I used to run marathons but now I hurt myself more easily. Am building up more gradually to see if I can run a half next year.
Am getting more faithful with stretching and warming up more thoroughly, and increasing mileage more cautiously. So far this year my longest run was 7 miles. Last week I ran 22.8 miles. I didn't run yesterday though because my back felt a bit wonky after lifting.
I am also trying to balance out running and lifting without straining something in the process. How to avoid straining a hamstring when running when I had done deadlifts the day before? I thought lower body weights were supposed to improve running.
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For November I will shoot for 80 miles.
I'm gradually building up my mileage, trying to prevent injuries.
I get injured more easily than I have in the past - more hamstring pulls and my back acts up every so often. I used to run marathons but now I hurt myself more easily. Am building up more gradually to see if I can run a half next year.
Am getting more faithful with stretching and warming up more thoroughly, and increasing mileage more cautiously. So far this year my longest run was 7 miles. Last week I ran 22.8 miles. I didn't run yesterday though because my back felt a bit wonky after lifting.
I am also trying to balance out running and lifting without straining something in the process. How to avoid straining a hamstring when running when I had done deadlifts the day before? I thought lower body weights were supposed to improve running.
@lkpducky if you're doing static stretching before your runs, don't. Dynamic stretching is ok, but never do static stretching on cold muscles. All I ever do before a run is to warm up by first walking briskly, then running slowly for at least a mile. I'll only do static stretching after a long run.
Proper form and a stride cadence approaching 170 are two great ways to avoid injury. If you're straining your hamstrings by running you might not be engaging your glutes like you should. Run tall and with good posture, with your hips leading the way. This makes it easy for your glutes to do their work so your hamstrings don't have to pick up the slack.
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Thanks @7lenny7 that makes sense. I've had physical therapy for pulled hamstrings before and the PT had noted that my glutes are weak, especially on the left, so the hamstrings did too much work (as you noted) and the right leg was doing more work than the left. Right now I'm doing glute exercises with resistance bands.3
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And we're off!!!
Interval training today: 3 minutes hard; 2 minutes easy; repeat 6 times.
Did the first 5 minutes as warmup; did the intervals; filled out the rest of the 7k with cooldown.
A warm welcome to our new participants and it's good to hear from our returning members.7 -
I WILL run today. Speaking it into existence14
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Today was C25K W5D3, the first non-interval 20 minute run. I didn't quite run for 20 minutes straight, though. Running into 15 mph wind, rain, uphill ... nope! We walked up instead. But we ran again afterward, and then an extra minute or two into the cooldown period, so I'm going to count it complete.MegaMooseEsq wrote: »@zeesparrow: The only thing about your plan that I would be concerned about is “I'm in the middle of C25K yet again”. Assuming that your goal is to keep running longer than six months, I would suggest spending some time thinking about what you can do to make things turn out differently. “I’ll do better/try harder/be more dedicated” isn’t a plan, it’s an aspiration. It’s great to start with aspiration, but if you don't back that up with some real strategies, you’re setting yourself up for the same results as before.
To be clear, I don’t mean to say that C25K is necessarily the problem, but if you can identify some commonalities between the times you quit and make a plan for how to address those issues when/if they come up, you might just find yourself in a much stronger place than before. I try to remember that even if you try something new and it doesn't work out, it's still worth it if you can learn something from the experience. Good luck - you can totally do this!
Thank you for your concern. It's well founded. I think you hit the nail on the head: I had aspirations but no real plan or strategy. Well, actually, I always started with one but then didn't have another when that was complete and then I'd falter. That's part of why I have been considering what I'm going to do next.
Previously, I would start running in order to lose weight (then quit once I reached my goal)...because a coworker wanted a running partner (and they quit running or left the job)...or for one race. This time, the idea came to me again in order to lose weight but there is something new (no really it's different this time-I know how that sounds-haha). But I'm actually enjoying running. I even look forward to it, making sure I get to bed early enough so I am rested and won't be tempted to reset my alarm for another hour on the days I'm scheduled to run. I have multiple training plans already lined up for after C25K, 10k (repeated) and HM. And, I have all of you to help me stay accountable!8 -
AlphaHowls wrote: »Someone asked me recently about my running (why) and I stated, "because I can."
I think every runner who has been asked why they run wrestles with finding an answer that can be stated briefly. The best I've come up with is, "Because it's too far to walk."
A local friend of mine recently wrote a blog on why he runs:
https://www.tonemansblog.com/why-do-i-run/
Excerpt:
What am I supposed to do with a question like that? It’s like asking why I like to spend time with my friends and family. Why I love my kids or why The Beatles were so good. Why a sandwich tastes better when someone else makes it.
You either get it or you don’t.
That is one of the most awesome blogs I have ever read.2 -
AlphaHowls wrote: »Someone asked me recently about my running (why) and I stated, "because I can."
I think every runner who has been asked why they run wrestles with finding an answer that can be stated briefly. The best I've come up with is, "Because it's too far to walk."
A local friend of mine recently wrote a blog on why he runs:
https://www.tonemansblog.com/why-do-i-run/
Excerpt:
What am I supposed to do with a question like that? It’s like asking why I like to spend time with my friends and family. Why I love my kids or why The Beatles were so good. Why a sandwich tastes better when someone else makes it.
You either get it or you don’t.
That is one of the most awesome blogs I have ever read.
No kidding. Dang. Get that boy another piece of cake!5 -
Monthly question:
I've been fretting over this question, because although I do many things which benefit my tomorrow self, it feels dishonest to say I am doing them for that reason, when I feel like I am doing them for today. I'm terrible at adulting. I do best when I translate my motivations into something that gives me instant feedback. For example I have been better about saving money, working to create a decent emergency fund. But I fail ludicrously when I think, "Future me might have an emergency." I do much better when I frame it, "If I know I have an emergency fund, today me will have less anxiety." I work out and watch my blood sugar because I know I may go blind or lose my feet if I have uncontrolled diabetes. But I do better knowing that today I look pretty in clothes and feel strong. I am an instant gratification kind of person.
One thing I've been doing lately that really does benefit tomorrow me is not allowing myself to procrastinate. I ask myself, "Is there any reason to believe you will feel any more like doing this unpleasant task later than you do right now?" Usually, nope, I'm gonna hate it in the future just as much, so do it now, and then it's done. I get to enjoy the time after it's done without something hanging over my head.
Another thing is never allowing myself to say I just don't want to know something. "It feels like I've been spending a lot, I should check the balance on my checking account, but I don't want to know." Nope! If you don't want to know, do it, right now. "I think I may have eaten too many carbs but if I don't check my blood sugar I can pretend it was probably okay." Yeah, check your blood sugar, and you'll know next time whether that was too many.8 -
Well yesterday was an impromptu rest day as I couldn't sleep with my CPAP overnight and my nose was a faucet that would not stop running. Today was a little better thanks to modern pharmacopoeia. I was able to do a decent full body workout with PT this morning and may or may not get my long run in tomorrow. We'll see how I feel the rest of today. So far not too happy with my November start, but in this as in all things:it's how you finish that is important.
Welcome to all our new people, you'll find us extremely chatty and very much encouraging !
ETA: @MobyCarp Awesome blog by your friend!
@garygse Hilarious SF clip!6 -
rheddmobile wrote: »Monthly question:
I've been fretting over this question, because although I do many things which benefit my tomorrow self, it feels dishonest to say I am doing them for that reason, when I feel like I am doing them for today. I'm terrible at adulting. I do best when I translate my motivations into something that gives me instant feedback. For example I have been better about saving money, working to create a decent emergency fund. But I fail ludicrously when I think, "Future me might have an emergency." I do much better when I frame it, "If I know I have an emergency fund, today me will have less anxiety." I work out and watch my blood sugar because I know I may go blind or lose my feet if I have uncontrolled diabetes. But I do better knowing that today I look pretty in clothes and feel strong. I am an instant gratification kind of person.
One thing I've been doing lately that really does benefit tomorrow me is not allowing myself to procrastinate. I ask myself, "Is there any reason to believe you will feel any more like doing this unpleasant task later than you do right now?" Usually, nope, I'm gonna hate it in the future just as much, so do it now, and then it's done. I get to enjoy the time after it's done without something hanging over my head.
Another thing is never allowing myself to say I just don't want to know something. "It feels like I've been spending a lot, I should check the balance on my checking account, but I don't want to know." Nope! If you don't want to know, do it, right now. "I think I may have eaten too many carbs but if I don't check my blood sugar I can pretend it was probably okay." Yeah, check your blood sugar, and you'll know next time whether that was too many.
So insightful. I do this too, but hadn't been able to put it in words.6 -
Just ran 4.5 miles. Hot out there (84F at the end) but half my route was in the shade. Feeling pretty good.8
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11/1 4miles
11/2 rest
For the first time since following training, 19 months, I’m skipping a training run. Not just any training run, but my longest run in my marathon training plan. Ugh. I’m battling a cold and decided yesterday not to run today. I knew if I ran 18 miles that I’d probably make my cold much worse than it is.
I’m going to repeat this week’s plan next week. Hopefully, I’m not messing up.
I’m not even going to set a goal for this month. I just want to finish this plan and survive running 26.2miles at some point towards the end of the month.
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11/1 4miles
11/2 rest
For the first time since following training, 19 months, I’m skipping a training run. Not just any training run, but my longest run in my marathon training plan. Ugh. I’m battling a cold and decided yesterday not to run today. I knew if I ran 18 miles that I’d probably make my cold much worse than it is.
I’m going to repeat this week’s plan next week. Hopefully, I’m not messing up.
I’m not even going to set a goal for this month. I just want to finish this plan and survive running 26.2miles at some point towards the end of the month.
I’d bet that “taking care of your health” is somewhere in the fine print of that training plan. Feel better!8 -
11/1 4miles
11/2 rest
For the first time since following training, 19 months, I’m skipping a training run. Not just any training run, but my longest run in my marathon training plan. Ugh. I’m battling a cold and decided yesterday not to run today. I knew if I ran 18 miles that I’d probably make my cold much worse than it is.
I’m going to repeat this week’s plan next week. Hopefully, I’m not messing up.
I’m not even going to set a goal for this month. I just want to finish this plan and survive running 26.2miles at some point towards the end of the month.
You could really mess yourself up trying to follow a training plan precisely when your body needs rest more than it needs the exercise. Just do the best you can, and understand that you can't get to the finish line if you don't get to the start line.12 -
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Which leads to the Monthly question...
What in the world have you done for your tomorrow self this year? Done done. Not gonna do. Not gonna get done honey. DONE.
In September I decided to do a “no eating out challenge”. It was really to save money, so I didn’t count outings/parties where food was free. I managed to make it 44 days!
I don’t know about you guys, but eating out chews up (pun intended ) a lot of our budget. So we saved a lot of money and I lost a few pounds without even trying.
I want to do it again. Maybe I’ll start tomorrow....
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amirahdaboss wrote: »I WILL run today. Speaking it into existence
I find it unbelievable that c25k/10K make it the standard to be running 10 minute miles when it is designed to help people who could not even run for a minute straight. In 60 minutes I run 5 miles, not 6.2. Don’t mind my ranting
11/2: 4.1 miles
Cumulative for November: 4.1/50 miles
Upcoming race: Thursday 11/22 Feaster Five Thanksgiving Road Race: Approximately 5 miles
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2---2.24 intervals
2.24/65
Upcoming Races
December 1st Dinosaur Valley Endurance Run. 5 Mile Glen Rose TX
January 5 BIRR Ultra relay. 50k. Hawaii. For @KeepRunningFatboy
March 31, 2019 A2A Undecided distance. Ardmore OK
April 28, 2019 OKC Memorial Marathon (half)4 -
I am in the 100 mile club again for November. I ran 120 miles in October and would have run more if not for temporary sidelining.
What have I done for my future self?
I became a healthy weight from morbidly obese.
I started running and lifting weights.
I am furthering my education.
@hanlonsk Thank you for the recommendation and for tagging me here as I had not seen this thread yet.
@Avidkeo I hear you. I used to wear a 44F. I lost 115 pounds (found 15 of them again) and now wear a 38C.
Oh I wish I was a C! 32f is frustrating cause apparently you aren't supposed to have big boobs if you are a size 10/12. Grrr. I started as a G at my heaviest so I guess I shouldn't complain too much. If I had a spare 15k, I'd get a reduction. Fortunately I don't get any medical problems from them - or unfortunately cause if I did then I'd be covered.
I imagine it is a ridiculous frustration for you. I have other issues that may be too graphic for the men here. I hate how certain things are and are not covered by insurance. But that's a whole other thing.
Ya know.... You could still share and put a tmi warning. And use the spoiler option. I'm not squeamish and am an aging female. Or we could just create a thread for running females, men enter at their own risk4 -
amirahdaboss wrote: »I find it unbelievable that c25k/10K make it the standard to be running 10 minute miles when it is designed to help people who could not even run for a minute straight. In 60 minutes I run 5 miles, not 6.2.
Endurance and pace aren't necessarily related. When I started to turn myself into a runner, I had to slow to a walk after 1 minute. But the first time the program called for a continual run instead of intervals, the average pace that popped out was 7:45 per mile.
I suspect that to the extent a 10 minute mile is standard, that's because that's where the fat part of the bell curve of paces lands. In the program I pace for, the largest pace groups are 10:00 and 10:30 per mile.2 -
Ya know.... You could still share and put a tmi warning. And use the spoiler option. I'm not squeamish and am an aging female. Or we could just create a thread for running females, men enter at their own risk
You mean that's not what the "Let's talk sports bras" thread is about? With that title, it sounds way too dangerous for me to enter.6 -
Ya know.... You could still share and put a tmi warning. And use the spoiler option. I'm not squeamish and am an aging female. Or we could just create a thread for running females, men enter at their own risk
You mean that's not what the "Let's talk sports bras" thread is about? With that title, it sounds way too dangerous for me to enter.
Oooh ya. If bra talk seems like something thats risky you definitely dont want in on our other concerns. Unless we just start sharing pics of us in bras huggin' each other. Runners gone wild sort of thing, then you might be take a pass4 -
I am in the 100 mile club again for November. I ran 120 miles in October and would have run more if not for temporary sidelining.
What have I done for my future self?
I became a healthy weight from morbidly obese.
I started running and lifting weights.
I am furthering my education.
@hanlonsk Thank you for the recommendation and for tagging me here as I had not seen this thread yet.
@Avidkeo I hear you. I used to wear a 44F. I lost 115 pounds (found 15 of them again) and now wear a 38C.
Oh I wish I was a C! 32f is frustrating cause apparently you aren't supposed to have big boobs if you are a size 10/12. Grrr. I started as a G at my heaviest so I guess I shouldn't complain too much. If I had a spare 15k, I'd get a reduction. Fortunately I don't get any medical problems from them - or unfortunately cause if I did then I'd be covered.
I imagine it is a ridiculous frustration for you. I have other issues that may be too graphic for the men here. I hate how certain things are and are not covered by insurance. But that's a whole other thing.
Ya know.... You could still share and put a tmi warning. And use the spoiler option. I'm not squeamish and am an aging female. Or we could just create a thread for running females, men enter at their own risk
I really wish ladies would stop assuming this about men. It is just silliness. Seriously. Its like on the TV show when they show the guy scared to by tampons. For real? Dude they are just sponges with a string on them. Whatever.7 -
11/1 - 0 km
11/2 - 12 miles
Upcoming Races:
Harvest 10 Miler - November 2018
Steel Challange 5k - May 2019
Pittsburgh Marathon - May 2019
Glacier Ridge 50k Trail Race - May 2019
--More as I find them - need to find a nice trail race
2021 - Disney World Dopey! (if can raise funds)
2019 GOAL: Knock a full hour off my 50k time at Glacier Ridge.2 -
PastorVincent wrote: »I am in the 100 mile club again for November. I ran 120 miles in October and would have run more if not for temporary sidelining.
What have I done for my future self?
I became a healthy weight from morbidly obese.
I started running and lifting weights.
I am furthering my education.
@hanlonsk Thank you for the recommendation and for tagging me here as I had not seen this thread yet.
@Avidkeo I hear you. I used to wear a 44F. I lost 115 pounds (found 15 of them again) and now wear a 38C.
Oh I wish I was a C! 32f is frustrating cause apparently you aren't supposed to have big boobs if you are a size 10/12. Grrr. I started as a G at my heaviest so I guess I shouldn't complain too much. If I had a spare 15k, I'd get a reduction. Fortunately I don't get any medical problems from them - or unfortunately cause if I did then I'd be covered.
I imagine it is a ridiculous frustration for you. I have other issues that may be too graphic for the men here. I hate how certain things are and are not covered by insurance. But that's a whole other thing.
Ya know.... You could still share and put a tmi warning. And use the spoiler option. I'm not squeamish and am an aging female. Or we could just create a thread for running females, men enter at their own risk
I really wish ladies would stop assuming this about men. It is just silliness. Seriously. Its like on the TV show when they show the guy scared to by tampons. For real? Dude they are just sponges with a string on them. Whatever.
My husband still refuses to by them. Its a thing.
And we women dont really want to share our concerns with men, they don't understand and are not typically helpful in matters. Its a sisterhood. We enjoy that. Its like bromance.5 -
amirahdaboss wrote: »I find it unbelievable that c25k/10K make it the standard to be running 10 minute miles when it is designed to help people who could not even run for a minute straight. In 60 minutes I run 5 miles, not 6.2.
Endurance and pace aren't necessarily related. When I started to turn myself into a runner, I had to slow to a walk after 1 minute. But the first time the program called for a continual run instead of intervals, the average pace that popped out was 7:45 per mile.
I suspect that to the extent a 10 minute mile is standard, that's because that's where the fat part of the bell curve of paces lands. In the program I pace for, the largest pace groups are 10:00 and 10:30 per mile.
Plus 10 makes the math easier. I get frustrated about that kind of thing too, @amirahdaboss, then I remember that as a short, heavier, somewhat older woman, I just have to work harder than someone taller, lighter, younger and possessing more testosterone for the same results. No shame in that.3 -
Ya know.... You could still share and put a tmi warning. And use the spoiler option. I'm not squeamish and am an aging female. Or we could just create a thread for running females, men enter at their own risk
You mean that's not what the "Let's talk sports bras" thread is about? With that title, it sounds way too dangerous for me to enter.
Hell, I just wear stretchy pull-on things and even I'm too scared to enter that thread.2 -
PastorVincent wrote: »I am in the 100 mile club again for November. I ran 120 miles in October and would have run more if not for temporary sidelining.
What have I done for my future self?
I became a healthy weight from morbidly obese.
I started running and lifting weights.
I am furthering my education.
@hanlonsk Thank you for the recommendation and for tagging me here as I had not seen this thread yet.
@Avidkeo I hear you. I used to wear a 44F. I lost 115 pounds (found 15 of them again) and now wear a 38C.
Oh I wish I was a C! 32f is frustrating cause apparently you aren't supposed to have big boobs if you are a size 10/12. Grrr. I started as a G at my heaviest so I guess I shouldn't complain too much. If I had a spare 15k, I'd get a reduction. Fortunately I don't get any medical problems from them - or unfortunately cause if I did then I'd be covered.
I imagine it is a ridiculous frustration for you. I have other issues that may be too graphic for the men here. I hate how certain things are and are not covered by insurance. But that's a whole other thing.
Ya know.... You could still share and put a tmi warning. And use the spoiler option. I'm not squeamish and am an aging female. Or we could just create a thread for running females, men enter at their own risk
I really wish ladies would stop assuming this about men. It is just silliness. Seriously. Its like on the TV show when they show the guy scared to by tampons. For real? Dude they are just sponges with a string on them. Whatever.
My husband buys them for me when I ask. When he's confused about brand etc he takes pictures and texts them to me.4
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