Thin Healthy Mama Diet?

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  • amy19355
    amy19355 Posts: 805 Member
    edited November 2018
    It's not a bad program at all. The core of it is, you don't eat carbs and fats together. Protein + fat, or protein + carb, but not carb + fat. Eat frequently, don't obsess over calories and good/bad foods, drink lots of water. They make use of some products like gluccomannan, collagen, oat fiber, apple cider vinegar, and so on. It can be as weird or as simple as you want to make it.

    What I do find is that a lot of the followers of the plan, like any other plan, can become a little bit obsessive. I have their book, but I left the Facebook group because it was so full of constant worry and overthinking of ingredients and whether this or that food was "safe". I'm not in this because I want a new kind of bondage or burden, and honestly I don't believe that's what either Pearl or Serene wanted people to take away from their books.

    A quick look at their website shows the plan includes multiple recipes that result in a dish that has both carbohydrates and fat.

    Here is an example: https://trimhealthymama.com/recipe/field-of-green-omcake-s/

    Here is another: https://trimhealthymama.com/recipe/strawberry-kale-salad-s/


    (Also, there's nothing wrong with eating carbohydrate and fat at the same time).

    Even though it's still nonsense, I think the "carbs" meant as a no-no to combine with fat are starches.

    Even if you buy that there's something magical about food combining, I'd love to know what's inherently slimming (as the blurb for the recipe seems to claim with it being able to help you push through weight stalls and all that) about that "omcake" absent context within someone's daily calorie allowance. Don't even get me started on "detoxing" with greens.

    I’m glad you clarified that,

    One of my pet peeves is the blanket use of the word ‘carb’ without distinguishing between the complex, refined or starchy.
    It is one of the big disservices performed on the buying public, IMO.
  • amyepdx
    amyepdx Posts: 750 Member
    Can you only do it if you are a “Mama”!
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    It's not a bad program at all. The core of it is, you don't eat carbs and fats together. Protein + fat, or protein + carb, but not carb + fat. Eat frequently, don't obsess over calories and good/bad foods, drink lots of water. They make use of some products like gluccomannan, collagen, oat fiber, apple cider vinegar, and so on. It can be as weird or as simple as you want to make it.

    What I do find is that a lot of the followers of the plan, like any other plan, can become a little bit obsessive. I have their book, but I left the Facebook group because it was so full of constant worry and overthinking of ingredients and whether this or that food was "safe". I'm not in this because I want a new kind of bondage or burden, and honestly I don't believe that's what either Pearl or Serene wanted people to take away from their books.

    A quick look at their website shows the plan includes multiple recipes that result in a dish that has both carbohydrates and fat.

    Here is an example: https://trimhealthymama.com/recipe/field-of-green-omcake-s/

    Here is another: https://trimhealthymama.com/recipe/strawberry-kale-salad-s/


    (Also, there's nothing wrong with eating carbohydrate and fat at the same time).

    Even though it's still nonsense, I think the "carbs" meant as a no-no to combine with fat are starches.

    Even if you buy that there's something magical about food combining, I'd love to know what's inherently slimming (as the blurb for the recipe seems to claim with it being able to help you push through weight stalls and all that) about that "omcake" absent context within someone's daily calorie allowance. Don't even get me started on "detoxing" with greens.

    I know it's common to use "carbohydrates" to mean "starches," but I don't get why people do it when "starches" already does the job perfectly.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    It's not a bad program at all. The core of it is, you don't eat carbs and fats together. Protein + fat, or protein + carb, but not carb + fat. Eat frequently, don't obsess over calories and good/bad foods, drink lots of water. They make use of some products like gluccomannan, collagen, oat fiber, apple cider vinegar, and so on. It can be as weird or as simple as you want to make it.

    What I do find is that a lot of the followers of the plan, like any other plan, can become a little bit obsessive. I have their book, but I left the Facebook group because it was so full of constant worry and overthinking of ingredients and whether this or that food was "safe". I'm not in this because I want a new kind of bondage or burden, and honestly I don't believe that's what either Pearl or Serene wanted people to take away from their books.

    A quick look at their website shows the plan includes multiple recipes that result in a dish that has both carbohydrates and fat.

    Here is an example: https://trimhealthymama.com/recipe/field-of-green-omcake-s/

    Here is another: https://trimhealthymama.com/recipe/strawberry-kale-salad-s/


    (Also, there's nothing wrong with eating carbohydrate and fat at the same time).

    Even though it's still nonsense, I think the "carbs" meant as a no-no to combine with fat are starches.

    Even if you buy that there's something magical about food combining, I'd love to know what's inherently slimming (as the blurb for the recipe seems to claim with it being able to help you push through weight stalls and all that) about that "omcake" absent context within someone's daily calorie allowance. Don't even get me started on "detoxing" with greens.

    I know it's common to use "carbohydrates" to mean "starches," but I don't get why people do it when "starches" already does the job perfectly.

    As lemurcat posted above, there's a general lack of literacy with the use of the term "carbs". People use it as short-hand to mean all sorts of things that include other macros and forget that it also means things like kale and raspberries. Add to this the common confusion between a refined carb and a simple carb and ... well.

    Plans like THM do nothing to clear up this confusion.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    It's not a bad program at all. The core of it is, you don't eat carbs and fats together. Protein + fat, or protein + carb, but not carb + fat. Eat frequently, don't obsess over calories and good/bad foods, drink lots of water. They make use of some products like gluccomannan, collagen, oat fiber, apple cider vinegar, and so on. It can be as weird or as simple as you want to make it.

    What I do find is that a lot of the followers of the plan, like any other plan, can become a little bit obsessive. I have their book, but I left the Facebook group because it was so full of constant worry and overthinking of ingredients and whether this or that food was "safe". I'm not in this because I want a new kind of bondage or burden, and honestly I don't believe that's what either Pearl or Serene wanted people to take away from their books.

    A quick look at their website shows the plan includes multiple recipes that result in a dish that has both carbohydrates and fat.

    Here is an example: https://trimhealthymama.com/recipe/field-of-green-omcake-s/

    Here is another: https://trimhealthymama.com/recipe/strawberry-kale-salad-s/


    (Also, there's nothing wrong with eating carbohydrate and fat at the same time).

    Even though it's still nonsense, I think the "carbs" meant as a no-no to combine with fat are starches.

    Even if you buy that there's something magical about food combining, I'd love to know what's inherently slimming (as the blurb for the recipe seems to claim with it being able to help you push through weight stalls and all that) about that "omcake" absent context within someone's daily calorie allowance. Don't even get me started on "detoxing" with greens.

    I know it's common to use "carbohydrates" to mean "starches," but I don't get why people do it when "starches" already does the job perfectly.

    As lemurcat posted above, there's a general lack of literacy with the use of the term "carbs". People use it as short-hand to mean all sorts of things that include other macros and forget that it also means things like kale and raspberries. Add to this the common confusion between a refined carb and a simple carb and ... well.

    Plans like THM do nothing to clear up this confusion.

    Yeah, I should have written "I don't know why (besides nutritional ignorance) people do this."
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    edited November 2018
    It's not a bad program at all. The core of it is, you don't eat carbs and fats together. Protein + fat, or protein + carb, but not carb + fat. Eat frequently, don't obsess over calories and good/bad foods, drink lots of water. They make use of some products like gluccomannan, collagen, oat fiber, apple cider vinegar, and so on. It can be as weird or as simple as you want to make it.

    What I do find is that a lot of the followers of the plan, like any other plan, can become a little bit obsessive. I have their book, but I left the Facebook group because it was so full of constant worry and overthinking of ingredients and whether this or that food was "safe". I'm not in this because I want a new kind of bondage or burden, and honestly I don't believe that's what either Pearl or Serene wanted people to take away from their books.

    Wait, so no avocado in salads? No vegetable stir fries or sautes? Or egg/tuna salad sandwiches?
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Personally, I prefer to eat at least some fat (5g is trivial!) with any and all veggies (ooo, way more than 10g carbs!). I know one strictly needn't combine slavishly at each meal, but I want best odds of absorbing all the fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E, K) I'm eating.

    Here's the thing that really gets me, though, with all these rules-y ways of eating: What are the odds that evolution designed human omnivores, over thousands of years of surviving feast, famine, varied geography and climate, to best thrive only by following a bunch of intricate rules about when to eat, how to combine foods, etc.?

    Sometimes I think us (relatively) wealthy modern first-worlders are Just Nuts. ;)

    ^This. And like you, I prefer to eat fat with my veggies, just in case.
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