Weight gain at 1400 a day
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felixg1109 wrote: »Well concerning your diary you seem to eat low volume and high calorie food a lot. Even the measurement of cups is weak point concerning accuracy of logging.
If you combine this with a "regular but not to often" binge it may kill your deficit.
In my oppinion you should get rid of the fast food and the high-calorie food (and drinks?) first. You could try eating more vegetables and salad to make your stomach full. This helps a lot concerning urges to binge and staying within a certain limit of calories. I.e. you can make a 3kg (6,6lbs) vegetable stew with about 500 calories and take a bowl of it when you are getting hungry.
Do you do sports/walking?
Not really im more the artistic type than the active2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »maureenkhilde wrote: »Did you use any tools to figure out how many calories a day to eat for weight loss? That’s really a good place to start with learning how many calories you need just to maintain your current weight. Then you can calculate a lower than that number and give it a whirl.
It might seem counter intuitive, but, it requires calories for your body to do any of the movements it does, like your heart beating, and stuff. So too few calories is a risky place to be.
Lots of good info here at MFP/
Yup used lots of them unfortunately for my weight they can be drastically off. Most of them tell me I should be eating between 2400 and 3000 calories per day
Hi, you need to go on here MFP put in your age, height and weight. Then choose do you want to lose I am guessing 2 lbs a week. MFP will then tell you what your daily calorie intake should be. Also will ask if you are sedentary and sounds from what you said you are. That is the first step.
Second step log everything single item you eat.
And weigh every single item before you cook it, or eat it.
Do not forget to count as calories any oil, or dressings you use in making anything you eat.
Exercise is not required to lose weight, it is good for the body, but you do not have to do it.
But if you are eyeballing portions, you really cannot say for sure how much you are eating calorie wise.
It works the weighing and logging of food. I have lost 70 pounds, starting in May 2018.alyssadanielle2493 wrote: »Hi! My first concern would be whether you are truly eating 1400 calories. Are you using a food scale and measuring it out? When I started counting calories, I used to “eyeball” foods and realized I was overeating.
I would definitely check on that. Otherwise I would think you would be losing a little more.
Absolutely this. If you aren't using a food scale, then you're almost certainly eating more than you think you are. With your stats, you should be losing on considerably more than 1400. The minimum daily calorie intake for men is 1500, and you should not be eating less than that.
In addition, how long have you been eating this way without weight loss?
If you are using a food scale and carefully logging all your food, and if you have been doing this for several weeks with no weight loss, then I would visit your doctor to rule out underlying health problems.
I’ve been to the doctor several times and I’m healthyer than I have any reason to be at my weight. I’ve been trying to loose weight for about a year now and have managed to get from 375 to 340 but 15 lbs of that we’re from last month when I was extremely sick.
If you don't have an underlying health problem that would prevent weight loss or cause weight gain, then you are not gaining weight on 1400 calories per day. This is not mathematically possible.
Put your stats into MFP and use the calorie goal it gives you. For your stats, you can choose up to a 2 lb/week rate of loss, though you can also choose to lose more slowly if you wish.
Use a food scale for all solid food. Use measuring cups or spoons for liquids. Log everything you eat.
Get as close as you can to your MFP calorie goal without going over.
Give it a few weeks. Be patient and consistent.
The calories it gives me is over 2000 eating that way causes my weight to skyrocket
How long of a time period did you try eating at that amount? If you jump from lower calorie to higher calorie, particularly stuff that's higher in sodium, there is going to be a weight jump from water retention. Incremental changes are going to have less influence.
Maybe a month or so?
You said that your weight skyrocketed. How much did you gain? Did you gain consistently over the four weeks? Or did the scale jump up initially, and then level out?
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Just to build on what @nutmegoreo is saying... You've had a lot of changes lately, including being sick. All of that can mess with your appetite, your perception, and your results. So throw the last couple of months out the window, forget about it. It doesn't tell you anything about what will work.
Starting tomorrow, commit to logging accurately and consistently. Everything, everyday. Use a food scale whenever it's possible for all solid foods. Weigh your cereal. weigh luncheon meat. Double check that you are using accurate entries in the database - many are user entered and wrong. Aim for at least 1500 calories. Make notes of how you feel - hungry, full, satisfied, deprived. Learn from the process as you go. read the Most Helpful Posts threads pinned to the top of each forum. Hang in there - you can do this!
Short and sweet! I like it.
@neonmage0 Start again tomorrow, and commit to logging everything. The diary notes is a great way to help you look for trends. When you have a binge (if), you can look over the previous days to see if you've been under eating, low in any of the macros (fat, protein, carbs). You can also use it to track your emotional state, as well as your hunger levels. If it makes it easier to be completely honest with yourself, then lock your diary.3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »maureenkhilde wrote: »Did you use any tools to figure out how many calories a day to eat for weight loss? That’s really a good place to start with learning how many calories you need just to maintain your current weight. Then you can calculate a lower than that number and give it a whirl.
It might seem counter intuitive, but, it requires calories for your body to do any of the movements it does, like your heart beating, and stuff. So too few calories is a risky place to be.
Lots of good info here at MFP/
Yup used lots of them unfortunately for my weight they can be drastically off. Most of them tell me I should be eating between 2400 and 3000 calories per day
Hi, you need to go on here MFP put in your age, height and weight. Then choose do you want to lose I am guessing 2 lbs a week. MFP will then tell you what your daily calorie intake should be. Also will ask if you are sedentary and sounds from what you said you are. That is the first step.
Second step log everything single item you eat.
And weigh every single item before you cook it, or eat it.
Do not forget to count as calories any oil, or dressings you use in making anything you eat.
Exercise is not required to lose weight, it is good for the body, but you do not have to do it.
But if you are eyeballing portions, you really cannot say for sure how much you are eating calorie wise.
It works the weighing and logging of food. I have lost 70 pounds, starting in May 2018.alyssadanielle2493 wrote: »Hi! My first concern would be whether you are truly eating 1400 calories. Are you using a food scale and measuring it out? When I started counting calories, I used to “eyeball” foods and realized I was overeating.
I would definitely check on that. Otherwise I would think you would be losing a little more.
Absolutely this. If you aren't using a food scale, then you're almost certainly eating more than you think you are. With your stats, you should be losing on considerably more than 1400. The minimum daily calorie intake for men is 1500, and you should not be eating less than that.
In addition, how long have you been eating this way without weight loss?
If you are using a food scale and carefully logging all your food, and if you have been doing this for several weeks with no weight loss, then I would visit your doctor to rule out underlying health problems.
I’ve been to the doctor several times and I’m healthyer than I have any reason to be at my weight. I’ve been trying to loose weight for about a year now and have managed to get from 375 to 340 but 15 lbs of that we’re from last month when I was extremely sick.
If you don't have an underlying health problem that would prevent weight loss or cause weight gain, then you are not gaining weight on 1400 calories per day. This is not mathematically possible.
Put your stats into MFP and use the calorie goal it gives you. For your stats, you can choose up to a 2 lb/week rate of loss, though you can also choose to lose more slowly if you wish.
Use a food scale for all solid food. Use measuring cups or spoons for liquids. Log everything you eat.
Get as close as you can to your MFP calorie goal without going over.
Give it a few weeks. Be patient and consistent.
The calories it gives me is over 2000 eating that way causes my weight to skyrocket
How long of a time period did you try eating at that amount? If you jump from lower calorie to higher calorie, particularly stuff that's higher in sodium, there is going to be a weight jump from water retention. Incremental changes are going to have less influence.
Maybe a month or so?
You said that your weight skyrocketed. How much did you gain? Did you gain consistently over the four weeks? Or did the scale jump up initially, and then level out?
I think it was consistent but it was a while back.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Just to build on what @nutmegoreo is saying... You've had a lot of changes lately, including being sick. All of that can mess with your appetite, your perception, and your results. So throw the last couple of months out the window, forget about it. It doesn't tell you anything about what will work.
Starting tomorrow, commit to logging accurately and consistently. Everything, everyday. Use a food scale whenever it's possible for all solid foods. Weigh your cereal. weigh luncheon meat. Double check that you are using accurate entries in the database - many are user entered and wrong. Aim for at least 1500 calories. Make notes of how you feel - hungry, full, satisfied, deprived. Learn from the process as you go. read the Most Helpful Posts threads pinned to the top of each forum. Hang in there - you can do this!
Short and sweet! I like it.
@neonmage0 Start again tomorrow, and commit to logging everything. The diary notes is a great way to help you look for trends. When you have a binge (if), you can look over the previous days to see if you've been under eating, low in any of the macros (fat, protein, carbs). You can also use it to track your emotional state, as well as your hunger levels. If it makes it easier to be completely honest with yourself, then lock your diary.
I noticed I normally binge if I’m under 1800 for the day.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Just to build on what @nutmegoreo is saying... You've had a lot of changes lately, including being sick. All of that can mess with your appetite, your perception, and your results. So throw the last couple of months out the window, forget about it. It doesn't tell you anything about what will work.
Starting tomorrow, commit to logging accurately and consistently. Everything, everyday. Use a food scale whenever it's possible for all solid foods. Weigh your cereal. weigh luncheon meat. Double check that you are using accurate entries in the database - many are user entered and wrong. Aim for at least 1500 calories. Make notes of how you feel - hungry, full, satisfied, deprived. Learn from the process as you go. read the Most Helpful Posts threads pinned to the top of each forum. Hang in there - you can do this!
Short and sweet! I like it.
@neonmage0 Start again tomorrow, and commit to logging everything. The diary notes is a great way to help you look for trends. When you have a binge (if), you can look over the previous days to see if you've been under eating, low in any of the macros (fat, protein, carbs). You can also use it to track your emotional state, as well as your hunger levels. If it makes it easier to be completely honest with yourself, then lock your diary.
I noticed I normally binge if I’m under 1800 for the day.
Have you been diagnosed with binge eating disorder? Do you think that might be part of what's going on? If it is, that is something that you should reach out for treatment. I know it's difficult to reach out, but that's what you've been doing here, and it's really brave.
How about giving yourself a range? Say 1800-2000 for these first 2 weeks, and see how it goes. I think if you can stay consistent, you might be surprised at the progress you will make.
I found myself massively overeating after a week or two on 1200, and decided to aim for about 1700. It made so much more sense for me, because I could fit in a treat each day and not feel guilty about it. My biggest issue was learning to look at food differently, to take the guilt and shame out of it. Having the higher calorie goal, but not having the massive overconsumption, ended up being about the same calorie wise, but without the emotional baggage of beating myself up for it. I realize this may not be similar for you, but if it resonates at all, do consider it.5 -
Well it doesn't matter if you are the artistic or the active type. But going for a walk a good thing to do. If you continue/start to loose more weight you even have to do something for your muscles or you will get problems with muscle degeneration. It's 90% food to loose weigth, but especially for high amounts to loose its neccessary to keep the muscles as good as possible (by eating a lot of protein and doing a bit for your strength).1
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nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Just to build on what @nutmegoreo is saying... You've had a lot of changes lately, including being sick. All of that can mess with your appetite, your perception, and your results. So throw the last couple of months out the window, forget about it. It doesn't tell you anything about what will work.
Starting tomorrow, commit to logging accurately and consistently. Everything, everyday. Use a food scale whenever it's possible for all solid foods. Weigh your cereal. weigh luncheon meat. Double check that you are using accurate entries in the database - many are user entered and wrong. Aim for at least 1500 calories. Make notes of how you feel - hungry, full, satisfied, deprived. Learn from the process as you go. read the Most Helpful Posts threads pinned to the top of each forum. Hang in there - you can do this!
Short and sweet! I like it.
@neonmage0 Start again tomorrow, and commit to logging everything. The diary notes is a great way to help you look for trends. When you have a binge (if), you can look over the previous days to see if you've been under eating, low in any of the macros (fat, protein, carbs). You can also use it to track your emotional state, as well as your hunger levels. If it makes it easier to be completely honest with yourself, then lock your diary.
I noticed I normally binge if I’m under 1800 for the day.
Have you been diagnosed with binge eating disorder? Do you think that might be part of what's going on? If it is, that is something that you should reach out for treatment. I know it's difficult to reach out, but that's what you've been doing here, and it's really brave.
How about giving yourself a range? Say 1800-2000 for these first 2 weeks, and see how it goes. I think if you can stay consistent, you might be surprised at the progress you will make.
I found myself massively overeating after a week or two on 1200, and decided to aim for about 1700. It made so much more sense for me, because I could fit in a treat each day and not feel guilty about it. My biggest issue was learning to look at food differently, to take the guilt and shame out of it. Having the higher calorie goal, but not having the massive overconsumption, ended up being about the same calorie wise, but without the emotional baggage of beating myself up for it. I realize this may not be similar for you, but if it resonates at all, do consider it.
Well worth the try. I probably have binge eating disorder but living in the USA I don’t have the money for health care.1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Just to build on what @nutmegoreo is saying... You've had a lot of changes lately, including being sick. All of that can mess with your appetite, your perception, and your results. So throw the last couple of months out the window, forget about it. It doesn't tell you anything about what will work.
Starting tomorrow, commit to logging accurately and consistently. Everything, everyday. Use a food scale whenever it's possible for all solid foods. Weigh your cereal. weigh luncheon meat. Double check that you are using accurate entries in the database - many are user entered and wrong. Aim for at least 1500 calories. Make notes of how you feel - hungry, full, satisfied, deprived. Learn from the process as you go. read the Most Helpful Posts threads pinned to the top of each forum. Hang in there - you can do this!
Short and sweet! I like it.
@neonmage0 Start again tomorrow, and commit to logging everything. The diary notes is a great way to help you look for trends. When you have a binge (if), you can look over the previous days to see if you've been under eating, low in any of the macros (fat, protein, carbs). You can also use it to track your emotional state, as well as your hunger levels. If it makes it easier to be completely honest with yourself, then lock your diary.
I noticed I normally binge if I’m under 1800 for the day.
Then don't go under 1800 for the day. Just try it. Try to eat a minimum of 1800 calories every day, all logged, every single bite. You can't tell what's going on with your calories if you start veering off due to compensation. I know from experience, I'm capable of overeating to the point where I wipe out my deficit for the entire week while feeling like I didn't eat all that much. It just doesn't feel like the type of thing that would affect diet results all that badly, but for some of us it does because we're more capable of overeating and food amnesia than the average person.
If you already believe things aren't working, then why not just do the thing for the kicks without expecting results, every single day, consistently, just to give it a try as a last attempt. Do that for a couple of months and see what happens. Don't haphazardly change your strategies or start skipping days if the scale reads higher one day. Try sticking to one strategy consistently and without judgment while being as accurate as you can for long enough to see a trend in results. What do you have to lose?7 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Just to build on what @nutmegoreo is saying... You've had a lot of changes lately, including being sick. All of that can mess with your appetite, your perception, and your results. So throw the last couple of months out the window, forget about it. It doesn't tell you anything about what will work.
Starting tomorrow, commit to logging accurately and consistently. Everything, everyday. Use a food scale whenever it's possible for all solid foods. Weigh your cereal. weigh luncheon meat. Double check that you are using accurate entries in the database - many are user entered and wrong. Aim for at least 1500 calories. Make notes of how you feel - hungry, full, satisfied, deprived. Learn from the process as you go. read the Most Helpful Posts threads pinned to the top of each forum. Hang in there - you can do this!
Short and sweet! I like it.
@neonmage0 Start again tomorrow, and commit to logging everything. The diary notes is a great way to help you look for trends. When you have a binge (if), you can look over the previous days to see if you've been under eating, low in any of the macros (fat, protein, carbs). You can also use it to track your emotional state, as well as your hunger levels. If it makes it easier to be completely honest with yourself, then lock your diary.
I noticed I normally binge if I’m under 1800 for the day.
Have you been diagnosed with binge eating disorder? Do you think that might be part of what's going on? If it is, that is something that you should reach out for treatment. I know it's difficult to reach out, but that's what you've been doing here, and it's really brave.
How about giving yourself a range? Say 1800-2000 for these first 2 weeks, and see how it goes. I think if you can stay consistent, you might be surprised at the progress you will make.
I found myself massively overeating after a week or two on 1200, and decided to aim for about 1700. It made so much more sense for me, because I could fit in a treat each day and not feel guilty about it. My biggest issue was learning to look at food differently, to take the guilt and shame out of it. Having the higher calorie goal, but not having the massive overconsumption, ended up being about the same calorie wise, but without the emotional baggage of beating myself up for it. I realize this may not be similar for you, but if it resonates at all, do consider it.
Well worth the try. I probably have binge eating disorder but living in the USA I don’t have the money for health care.
There should be some on line resources. This page has some information:
https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1575987
While I don't disagree with the others that activity and nutrition are important, my experience has been that focusing on small changes can be really important. You can chose other things to focus on first. Whether that be your emotional state, your activity levels, your nutrition, or your logging. Focus on one thing for a couple weeks, until that becomes habit, then the next thing. I just chose logging, because it's something that you are halfway there with it. Some people do have success with making major overhauls on what they are doing, but I've seen many people fail because it is too far off of their normal, familiar patterns. You know yourself best. I suggest that if what you've been doing isn't working for you, it's time to consider a different approach.9 -
If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.14 -
Well, if you have BED you should think for yourself, what it is giving you. And you have to find other ways to reach those goals. For me "Brain over binge" was a very good book (even though i don't share every oppinion with it). Maybe it can be helpful for you.
Besides that i would try to do the 1800kCal and adding some movement to your life. From simple things like standing up and taking a walk around the flat in each commercial break, taking steps and not the elevator, parking further away from entrances up to taking at least one small walk a day. Btw: This helps against the urges too.3 -
I looked at your diary and you drink a ton of calories, and you don't log it correctly at times. You log a 20 oz Dr. Pepper at 250 calories, then in another entry you log 2.4 cups, which is basically 20 oz, as 150 or so (can't remember the exact #). Maybe try to switch to Diet Dr. Pepper, and try not to drink calories. Some days you drink about 500 calories.
That also makes me think maybe you are using wrong entries for some of your foods. Double check the calories to make sure you are using correct entries.
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musicfan68 wrote: »I looked at your diary and you drink a ton of calories, and you don't log it correctly at times. You log a 20 oz Dr. Pepper at 250 calories, then in another entry you log 2.4 cups, which is basically 20 oz, as 150 or so (can't remember the exact #). Maybe try to switch to Diet Dr. Pepper, and try not to drink calories. Some days you drink about 500 calories.
That also makes me think maybe you are using wrong entries for some of your foods. Double check the calories to make sure you are using correct entries.
The difference is between a bottle which is actually 20 oz and a cup from a restaurant which is mostly ice.0 -
If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle0 -
A pound of fat burns 2 calories per day. A pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day. There would have to be a huge difference to make that significant. And if almost none of your weight was muscle, you’d be bedridden. It takes muscle just to carry your body weight around on a daily basis.If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle
Your internal organs are responsible for the vast majority of your BMR calorie expenditure, the two biggest being your brain and your liver. You have a brain and a liver just like everybody else.
To be completely honest, it sounds like you’re more interested in making excuses than focusing on what you need to do to succeed at this. Unfortunately, your body won’t accept excuses.
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Almost none of my weight is muscle
Well thats.... *censored*. As someone who was waaaay over your weight i can tell you: you have a ton of muscles. Else your body would not be able to stand, sit or do even one step.
As it seems for me you just want to hear "oooh if you dont loose at 1400kCal it's not possible to loose weight. Just keep it that way". But you won't hear that from us ;-)13 -
If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle
You'd be surprised! The heavier you are, the more muscle it takes to move. Nutrition will become important in maintaining that muscle as you lose weight. Some of the lost will be muscle, but increasing protein intake, and exercise can help protect what you have.
Just start with whatever you feel is least overwhelming right now. Make it a habit, and then look at the next step.3 -
A pound of fat burns 2 calories per day. A pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day. There would have to be a huge difference to make that significant. And if almost none of your weight was muscle, you’d be bedridden. It takes muscle just to carry your body weight around on a daily basis.If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle
Your internal organs are responsible for the vast majority of your BMR calorie expenditure, the two biggest being your brain and your liver. You have a brain and a liver just like everybody else.
To be completely honest, it sounds like you’re more interested in making excuses than focusing on what you need to do to succeed at this. Unfortunately, your body won’t accept excuses.felixg1109 wrote: »Almost none of my weight is muscle
Well thats.... *censored*. As someone who was waaaay over your weight i can tell you: you have a ton of muscles. Else your body would not be able to stand, sit or do even one step.
As it seems for me you just want to hear "oooh if you dont loose at 1400kCal it's not possible to loose weight. Just keep it that way". But you won't hear that from us ;-)
That’s not at all what I’m looking for. I want a mathematical logical reason I’m haveing issues loosing weight which others have given so you can kindly *kitten* off with your talk of excuses14 -
If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle
How can that be possible? In order for you to carry your weight around, there has to be muscle under the fat.4 -
A pound of fat burns 2 calories per day. A pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day. There would have to be a huge difference to make that significant. And if almost none of your weight was muscle, you’d be bedridden. It takes muscle just to carry your body weight around on a daily basis.If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle
Your internal organs are responsible for the vast majority of your BMR calorie expenditure, the two biggest being your brain and your liver. You have a brain and a liver just like everybody else.
To be completely honest, it sounds like you’re more interested in making excuses than focusing on what you need to do to succeed at this. Unfortunately, your body won’t accept excuses.felixg1109 wrote: »Almost none of my weight is muscle
Well thats.... *censored*. As someone who was waaaay over your weight i can tell you: you have a ton of muscles. Else your body would not be able to stand, sit or do even one step.
As it seems for me you just want to hear "oooh if you dont loose at 1400kCal it's not possible to loose weight. Just keep it that way". But you won't hear that from us ;-)
That’s not at all what I’m looking for. I want a mathematical logical reason I’m haveing issues loosing weight which others have given so you can kindly *kitten* off with your talk of excuses
Despite your rude and ungrateful response, I'll offer this as help - every possible reason why you're not losing weight, and what to do about it: https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
The mathematical logical reason you're having issues losing weight is that you're not eating as few calories as you think you are. It's really as simple as that. No grown man, let alone a man your size, is going to not lose weight eating 1200-1400 calories per day, regardless of how little muscle you have or how sedentary you are.21 -
A pound of fat burns 2 calories per day. A pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day. There would have to be a huge difference to make that significant. And if almost none of your weight was muscle, you’d be bedridden. It takes muscle just to carry your body weight around on a daily basis.If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle
Your internal organs are responsible for the vast majority of your BMR calorie expenditure, the two biggest being your brain and your liver. You have a brain and a liver just like everybody else.
To be completely honest, it sounds like you’re more interested in making excuses than focusing on what you need to do to succeed at this. Unfortunately, your body won’t accept excuses.felixg1109 wrote: »Almost none of my weight is muscle
Well thats.... *censored*. As someone who was waaaay over your weight i can tell you: you have a ton of muscles. Else your body would not be able to stand, sit or do even one step.
As it seems for me you just want to hear "oooh if you dont loose at 1400kCal it's not possible to loose weight. Just keep it that way". But you won't hear that from us ;-)
That’s not at all what I’m looking for. I want a mathematical logical reason I’m haveing issues loosing weight which others have given so you can kindly *kitten* off with your talk of excuses
Despite your rude and ungrateful response, I'll offer this as help - every possible reason why you're not losing weight, and what to do about it: https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
The mathematical logical reason you're having issues losing weight is that you're not eating as few calories as you think you are. It's really as simple as that.
Don’t ever tell someone who is looking for help that they are just makeing excuses. It took a lot for me to overcome my anxiety to even make this post. Your post about making excuses is the kind of thing that pushes people into depression and causes them to just give up. You should be ashamed of yourself20 -
Running your stats through this calorie calculator, which many people find accurate, your BMR is approximately 2489 calories per day and your TDEE/maintenance calories (even at sedentary) is approximately 2987 calories per day.
If you were truly eating 1200 calories per day, you'd be in a deficit of 1787 calories per day - which mathematically would result in losing about a pound every two days, or 3.5 pounds per week. So it's obvious that the math doesn't match up with the reality you're experiencing. Since the variance in BMR is 10% or less, that means that even if you do have some kind of magically slow metabolism, you should still be losing around 3 pounds per week. Since none of that is happening, it's obvious that you're not truly eating 1200 calories per day.
Again, your responses are very rude, ungrateful and defensive. The information is right there, staring you in the face. What you do with it is your decision.
A pound of fat burns 2 calories per day. A pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day. There would have to be a huge difference to make that significant. And if almost none of your weight was muscle, you’d be bedridden. It takes muscle just to carry your body weight around on a daily basis.If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle
Your internal organs are responsible for the vast majority of your BMR calorie expenditure, the two biggest being your brain and your liver. You have a brain and a liver just like everybody else.
To be completely honest, it sounds like you’re more interested in making excuses than focusing on what you need to do to succeed at this. Unfortunately, your body won’t accept excuses.felixg1109 wrote: »Almost none of my weight is muscle
Well thats.... *censored*. As someone who was waaaay over your weight i can tell you: you have a ton of muscles. Else your body would not be able to stand, sit or do even one step.
As it seems for me you just want to hear "oooh if you dont loose at 1400kCal it's not possible to loose weight. Just keep it that way". But you won't hear that from us ;-)
That’s not at all what I’m looking for. I want a mathematical logical reason I’m haveing issues loosing weight which others have given so you can kindly *kitten* off with your talk of excuses
Despite your rude and ungrateful response, I'll offer this as help - every possible reason why you're not losing weight, and what to do about it: https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
The mathematical logical reason you're having issues losing weight is that you're not eating as few calories as you think you are. It's really as simple as that.
Don’t ever tell someone who is looking for help that they are just makeing excuses. It took a lot for me to overcome my anxiety to even make this post. Your post about making excuses is the kind of thing that pushes people into depression and causes them to just give up. You should be ashamed of yourself14 -
Running your stats through this calorie calculator, which many people find accurate, your BMR is approximately 2489 calories per day and your TDEE/maintenance calories (even at sedentary) is approximately 2987 calories per day.
If you were truly eating 1200 calories per day, you'd be in a deficit of 1787 calories per day - which mathematically would result in losing about a pound every two days, or 3.5 pounds per week. So it's obvious that the math doesn't match up with the reality you're experiencing. Since the variance in BMR is 10% or less, that means that even if you do have some kind of magically slow metabolism, you should still be losing around 3 pounds per week. Since none of that is happening, it's obvious that you're not truly eating 1200 calories per day.
Again, your responses are very rude and defensive. The information is right there, staring you in the face. What you do with it is your decision.
A pound of fat burns 2 calories per day. A pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day. There would have to be a huge difference to make that significant. And if almost none of your weight was muscle, you’d be bedridden. It takes muscle just to carry your body weight around on a daily basis.If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle
Your internal organs are responsible for the vast majority of your BMR calorie expenditure, the two biggest being your brain and your liver. You have a brain and a liver just like everybody else.
To be completely honest, it sounds like you’re more interested in making excuses than focusing on what you need to do to succeed at this. Unfortunately, your body won’t accept excuses.felixg1109 wrote: »Almost none of my weight is muscle
Well thats.... *censored*. As someone who was waaaay over your weight i can tell you: you have a ton of muscles. Else your body would not be able to stand, sit or do even one step.
As it seems for me you just want to hear "oooh if you dont loose at 1400kCal it's not possible to loose weight. Just keep it that way". But you won't hear that from us ;-)
That’s not at all what I’m looking for. I want a mathematical logical reason I’m haveing issues loosing weight which others have given so you can kindly *kitten* off with your talk of excuses
Despite your rude and ungrateful response, I'll offer this as help - every possible reason why you're not losing weight, and what to do about it: https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
The mathematical logical reason you're having issues losing weight is that you're not eating as few calories as you think you are. It's really as simple as that.
Don’t ever tell someone who is looking for help that they are just makeing excuses. It took a lot for me to overcome my anxiety to even make this post. Your post about making excuses is the kind of thing that pushes people into depression and causes them to just give up. You should be ashamed of yourself
I know the math doesn’t add up that’s why I’m here to figure out why and to receive encouragement. I do not need people being condescending. Even if the math doesn’t add up with a bar that high even if I was eating 600 calories over, essentially a whole meal I should still lose weight.6 -
Running your stats through this calorie calculator, which many people find accurate, your BMR is approximately 2489 calories per day and your TDEE/maintenance calories (even at sedentary) is approximately 2987 calories per day.
If you were truly eating 1200 calories per day, you'd be in a deficit of 1787 calories per day - which mathematically would result in losing about a pound every two days, or 3.5 pounds per week. So it's obvious that the math doesn't match up with the reality you're experiencing. Since the variance in BMR is 10% or less, that means that even if you do have some kind of magically slow metabolism, you should still be losing around 3 pounds per week. Since none of that is happening, it's obvious that you're not truly eating 1200 calories per day.
Again, your responses are very rude and defensive. The information is right there, staring you in the face. What you do with it is your decision.
A pound of fat burns 2 calories per day. A pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day. There would have to be a huge difference to make that significant. And if almost none of your weight was muscle, you’d be bedridden. It takes muscle just to carry your body weight around on a daily basis.If a man your size isn’t losing weight eating 1200 calories, the answer is very simple: you’re not eating 1200 calories.
I started off at 270 pounds and lost easily eating 2200 calories/day. I lost 75 pounds and my calorie goal was never below 2200.
Almost none of my weight is muscle
Your internal organs are responsible for the vast majority of your BMR calorie expenditure, the two biggest being your brain and your liver. You have a brain and a liver just like everybody else.
To be completely honest, it sounds like you’re more interested in making excuses than focusing on what you need to do to succeed at this. Unfortunately, your body won’t accept excuses.felixg1109 wrote: »Almost none of my weight is muscle
Well thats.... *censored*. As someone who was waaaay over your weight i can tell you: you have a ton of muscles. Else your body would not be able to stand, sit or do even one step.
As it seems for me you just want to hear "oooh if you dont loose at 1400kCal it's not possible to loose weight. Just keep it that way". But you won't hear that from us ;-)
That’s not at all what I’m looking for. I want a mathematical logical reason I’m haveing issues loosing weight which others have given so you can kindly *kitten* off with your talk of excuses
Despite your rude and ungrateful response, I'll offer this as help - every possible reason why you're not losing weight, and what to do about it: https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
The mathematical logical reason you're having issues losing weight is that you're not eating as few calories as you think you are. It's really as simple as that.
Don’t ever tell someone who is looking for help that they are just makeing excuses. It took a lot for me to overcome my anxiety to even make this post. Your post about making excuses is the kind of thing that pushes people into depression and causes them to just give up. You should be ashamed of yourself
I know the math doesn’t add up that’s why I’m here to figure out why and to receive encouragement. I do not need people being condescending. Even if the math doesn’t add up with a bar that high even if I was eating 600 calories over, essentially a whole meal I should still lose weight.
The math isn't adding up because most of the data are estimates or guesses. Take the advice about using a scale to measure your food. All your food. Consistently. For at least a month.15 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Just to build on what @nutmegoreo is saying... You've had a lot of changes lately, including being sick. All of that can mess with your appetite, your perception, and your results. So throw the last couple of months out the window, forget about it. It doesn't tell you anything about what will work.
Starting tomorrow, commit to logging accurately and consistently. Everything, everyday. Use a food scale whenever it's possible for all solid foods. Weigh your cereal. weigh luncheon meat. Double check that you are using accurate entries in the database - many are user entered and wrong. Aim for at least 1500 calories. Make notes of how you feel - hungry, full, satisfied, deprived. Learn from the process as you go. read the Most Helpful Posts threads pinned to the top of each forum. Hang in there - you can do this!
Short and sweet! I like it.
@neonmage0 Start again tomorrow, and commit to logging everything. The diary notes is a great way to help you look for trends. When you have a binge (if), you can look over the previous days to see if you've been under eating, low in any of the macros (fat, protein, carbs). You can also use it to track your emotional state, as well as your hunger levels. If it makes it easier to be completely honest with yourself, then lock your diary.
I noticed I normally binge if I’m under 1800 for the day.
but you claim in your very first post that you're only eating 1200 cals? so does that mean you're actually bingeing frequently?
I second or third or whatever it is that you buy a food scale and start weighing your food, set mfp to lose 2lb per week and eat that for at least 4 weeks. track what your weight does and then come back if you haven't lost any weight.11 -
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I'm going to address the first post first:
You're not eating that little. That's your goal, but looking through your diary I have yet to see a day when you're even close to your goal, let alone eating under it. So, advise:
- Log everything, even those binges
- Don't guesstimate, don't "well there's loads of ice in that drink, so I'll put it as less", just log it as it should be.
- Use food scales to weigh your food. Scales for solids, measuring cups for liquids.
- Never log by "amount". That being, if you're eating a handful of gummy bears, weigh them and log them as weight, not by the number of bears you eat.
- Pick a sensible target and stick to it. There's no point aiming for 1200kcals if you just eat at 2400kcal anyway. With your stats you can eat at least 2000kcals and lose weight, so why not put that as your goal and try to actually stick to it. And stop jumping around every couple of days. Give something 4 weeks at least. Be consistent.
In addition, a suggestion: try eating out less. I only say this because although there are database entries for restaurants and takeaways, they're often not accurate as it very much depends on the chef and there can often be hundreds of calories more in a meal than you're logging. When you are in control of your food, it is much easier to be completely sure of what you're actually eating.
Another couple of points: Water weight is a thing. Especially as you're eating out a lot, you're probably find your water weight fluctuates a lot. This means that the scale will not always drop every day. Some days it will be up, some days it will be down. This doesn't mean you plan isn't working, it just means that on that day, your weight is fluctuating. Looking at an overall trend is much more important than each day separately. Personally I can gain 2kg (4.4lbs) in 4 days and then in the next 3 I'll drop more than that. Although it looked bad day on day, for the week it's actually be a net loss. Do not be disheartened just because the scales go up one day.
Remember:
If your numbers do not add up, it's because they are wrong. You body see calories as calories. It doesn't matter if you fudged the numbers or logged incorrectly, if you have eaten the calories, then your body counts them. There is no magic when it comes to weight loss. There are hundreds of success stories on MFP where people have started off by assuming that CICO doesn't apply to them, but then when they tightened up their logging and stopped kidding themselves, they've realised that they've been eating more than they thought and when they eat less, they lose that weight that they wanted to. I am certain that you have the capability to lose the weight you want to, but you have to stop looking for answers that aren't there and making excuses, listen to the advise, log accurately and I'm sure you will find that you are eating much more than you think, and then you'll be able to make the changes that you need to shift the weight. Good luck17 -
Had to edit this as I just read you already do IF. How about working out ? Or going vegan?33
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