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What commonly given MFP Forum advice do you personally disagree with?

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  • FireOpalCOFireOpalCO Posts: 635Member, Premium Member Posts: 635Member, Premium Member
    try2again wrote: »
    mg07030 wrote: »
    “What commonly MFP forum advice do you disagree with?”

    When you post something and then get attack or ridicule for it.

    As it’s been said so many time each person journey is different and if it works for you then good on you. If you disagree with what someone is following don’t attack them. Asking questions is fine or share your thoughts but in a kind, respectful manner.

    Agree - although I’d rather someone disagree with me out in the open instead of using the cowardly woo button.

    The woo button is actually intended to keep people from being ganged up on with multiple posts debunking something questionable that's been put forth... so, to be kind. Of course, it's helpful if at least one person explains the source of disagreement. But keep in mind, many people have no idea what the woo button is actually for (some think it's a cheer), so take it with a grain of salt ;)

    It should be renamed. I recommend either "Bull *kitten*" or "Oh Hell No".
  • tbright1965tbright1965 Posts: 792Member, Premium Member Posts: 792Member, Premium Member
    I was thinking along the lines of the Car Talk brothers Tom and Ray that it be called the "Dope Slap" button.

    FireOpalCO wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    mg07030 wrote: »
    “What commonly MFP forum advice do you disagree with?”

    When you post something and then get attack or ridicule for it.

    As it’s been said so many time each person journey is different and if it works for you then good on you. If you disagree with what someone is following don’t attack them. Asking questions is fine or share your thoughts but in a kind, respectful manner.

    Agree - although I’d rather someone disagree with me out in the open instead of using the cowardly woo button.

    The woo button is actually intended to keep people from being ganged up on with multiple posts debunking something questionable that's been put forth... so, to be kind. Of course, it's helpful if at least one person explains the source of disagreement. But keep in mind, many people have no idea what the woo button is actually for (some think it's a cheer), so take it with a grain of salt ;)

    It should be renamed. I recommend either "Bull *kitten*" or "Oh Hell No".

  • TacklewasherTacklewasher Posts: 7,072Member Member Posts: 7,072Member Member
    FireOpalCO wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    mg07030 wrote: »
    “What commonly MFP forum advice do you disagree with?”

    When you post something and then get attack or ridicule for it.

    As it’s been said so many time each person journey is different and if it works for you then good on you. If you disagree with what someone is following don’t attack them. Asking questions is fine or share your thoughts but in a kind, respectful manner.

    Agree - although I’d rather someone disagree with me out in the open instead of using the cowardly woo button.

    The woo button is actually intended to keep people from being ganged up on with multiple posts debunking something questionable that's been put forth... so, to be kind. Of course, it's helpful if at least one person explains the source of disagreement. But keep in mind, many people have no idea what the woo button is actually for (some think it's a cheer), so take it with a grain of salt ;)

    It should be renamed. I recommend either "Bull *kitten*" or "Oh Hell No".

    Somewhere in the bowels of the forum, it does show up as a WTF button. I'd prefer it if it had been left that way.
  • Safari_GalSafari_Gal Posts: 888Member Member Posts: 888Member Member
    FireOpalCO wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    mg07030 wrote: »
    “What commonly MFP forum advice do you disagree with?”

    When you post something and then get attack or ridicule for it.

    As it’s been said so many time each person journey is different and if it works for you then good on you. If you disagree with what someone is following don’t attack them. Asking questions is fine or share your thoughts but in a kind, respectful manner.

    Agree - although I’d rather someone disagree with me out in the open instead of using the cowardly woo button.

    The woo button is actually intended to keep people from being ganged up on with multiple posts debunking something questionable that's been put forth... so, to be kind. Of course, it's helpful if at least one person explains the source of disagreement. But keep in mind, many people have no idea what the woo button is actually for (some think it's a cheer), so take it with a grain of salt ;)

    It should be renamed. I recommend either "Bull *kitten*" or "Oh Hell No".

    Somewhere in the bowels of the forum, it does show up as a WTF button. I'd prefer it if it had been left that way.
    It definitely has more clarity!! I think we should be able to see who likes and WTFs though. There needs to be hug and woo transparency lol.
  • tbright1965tbright1965 Posts: 792Member, Premium Member Posts: 792Member, Premium Member
    FireOpalCO wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    mg07030 wrote: »
    “What commonly MFP forum advice do you disagree with?”

    When you post something and then get attack or ridicule for it.

    As it’s been said so many time each person journey is different and if it works for you then good on you. If you disagree with what someone is following don’t attack them. Asking questions is fine or share your thoughts but in a kind, respectful manner.

    Agree - although I’d rather someone disagree with me out in the open instead of using the cowardly woo button.

    The woo button is actually intended to keep people from being ganged up on with multiple posts debunking something questionable that's been put forth... so, to be kind. Of course, it's helpful if at least one person explains the source of disagreement. But keep in mind, many people have no idea what the woo button is actually for (some think it's a cheer), so take it with a grain of salt ;)

    It should be renamed. I recommend either "Bull *kitten*" or "Oh Hell No".

    Somewhere in the bowels of the forum, it does show up as a WTF button. I'd prefer it if it had been left that way.

    If you hover over it and look at what shows up at the bottom of your browser, you will see WTF as part of the URL...

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/react/comment/wtf?id=43083110
    edited January 2
  • try2againtry2again Posts: 3,265Member Member Posts: 3,265Member Member
    leiflung wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    There's an element of risk at play here. One can believe in a flat earth and this causes no harm to anyone, whereas spreading misinformation such as unfounded dangers of vaccines can objectively cause incredible harm. When you intentionally increase risk, then you should expect condescension and mockery. It was earned.

    Do you think anti-vaxxers are intentionally increasing risk? Or do you think they believe they are decreasing risk, despite doing the opposite?

    Also, do you not think that being condescending to a person is likely to cause cognitive dissonance in them which would more likely cause them to double down on their beliefs rather than abandon them?

    To me, it's one thing trying to convince a person they are wrong. That's already hard. But if you mock them as you do it, you're making it even harder. You're making them feel bad and asking them to agree that they *should* feel bad as you ask them to change their minds. That seems to expect way too much of people.

    I wouldn't think it would even be effective for an onlooker. If a person is on the fence about something and somebody who talks about it is mocked, that only makes the person less likely to try to discuss their own confusion. They'd likely rather avoid being treated poorly. They'd be less likely to understand where they were wrong. They might be more likely to drink the kool-aid later on, when and if surrounded and cut off from opposing views.

    Lol... I think that's the fancy way of saying, "You can attract more flies with honey than with vinegar" ;)

    (But BTW, sincerely enjoying the thoughtful discussion, you guys :) )

    edited January 2
  • leiflungleiflung Posts: 76Member Member Posts: 76Member Member
    try2again wrote: »
    leiflung wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    There's an element of risk at play here. One can believe in a flat earth and this causes no harm to anyone, whereas spreading misinformation such as unfounded dangers of vaccines can objectively cause incredible harm. When you intentionally increase risk, then you should expect condescension and mockery. It was earned.

    Do you think anti-vaxxers are intentionally increasing risk? Or do you think they believe they are decreasing risk, despite doing the opposite?

    Also, do you not think that being condescending to a person is likely to cause cognitive dissonance in them which would more likely cause them to double down on their beliefs rather than abandon them?

    To me, it's one thing trying to convince a person they are wrong. That's already hard. But if you mock them as you do it, you're making it even harder. You're making them feel bad and asking them to agree that they *should* feel bad as you ask them to change their minds. That seems to expect way too much of people.

    I wouldn't think it would even be effective for an onlooker. If a person is on the fence about something and somebody who talks about it is mocked, that only makes the person less likely to try to discuss their own confusion. They'd likely rather avoid being treated poorly. They'd be less likely to understand where they were wrong. They might be more likely to drink the kool-aid later on, when and if surrounded and cut off from opposing views.

    Lol... I think that's the fancy way of saying, "You can attract more flies with honey than with vinegar" ;)

    (But BTW, sincerely enjoying the thoughtful discussion, you guys :) )

    lol, I see your point but I don't actually think the answer is in being nice. As I've said already, I'm not a fan of the saccharine.

    Also, flies prefer vinegar, but that's beside the point. ;)
  • TacklewasherTacklewasher Posts: 7,072Member Member Posts: 7,072Member Member
    leiflung wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    leiflung wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    There's an element of risk at play here. One can believe in a flat earth and this causes no harm to anyone, whereas spreading misinformation such as unfounded dangers of vaccines can objectively cause incredible harm. When you intentionally increase risk, then you should expect condescension and mockery. It was earned.

    Do you think anti-vaxxers are intentionally increasing risk? Or do you think they believe they are decreasing risk, despite doing the opposite?

    Also, do you not think that being condescending to a person is likely to cause cognitive dissonance in them which would more likely cause them to double down on their beliefs rather than abandon them?

    To me, it's one thing trying to convince a person they are wrong. That's already hard. But if you mock them as you do it, you're making it even harder. You're making them feel bad and asking them to agree that they *should* feel bad as you ask them to change their minds. That seems to expect way too much of people.

    I wouldn't think it would even be effective for an onlooker. If a person is on the fence about something and somebody who talks about it is mocked, that only makes the person less likely to try to discuss their own confusion. They'd likely rather avoid being treated poorly. They'd be less likely to understand where they were wrong. They might be more likely to drink the kool-aid later on, when and if surrounded and cut off from opposing views.

    Lol... I think that's the fancy way of saying, "You can attract more flies with honey than with vinegar" ;)

    (But BTW, sincerely enjoying the thoughtful discussion, you guys :) )

    lol, I see your point but I don't actually think the answer is in being nice. As I've said already, I'm not a fan of the saccharine.

    Also, flies prefer vinegar, but that's beside the point. ;)

    And who wants flies anyway?
  • leiflungleiflung Posts: 76Member Member Posts: 76Member Member
    leiflung wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    leiflung wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    There's an element of risk at play here. One can believe in a flat earth and this causes no harm to anyone, whereas spreading misinformation such as unfounded dangers of vaccines can objectively cause incredible harm. When you intentionally increase risk, then you should expect condescension and mockery. It was earned.

    Do you think anti-vaxxers are intentionally increasing risk? Or do you think they believe they are decreasing risk, despite doing the opposite?

    Also, do you not think that being condescending to a person is likely to cause cognitive dissonance in them which would more likely cause them to double down on their beliefs rather than abandon them?

    To me, it's one thing trying to convince a person they are wrong. That's already hard. But if you mock them as you do it, you're making it even harder. You're making them feel bad and asking them to agree that they *should* feel bad as you ask them to change their minds. That seems to expect way too much of people.

    I wouldn't think it would even be effective for an onlooker. If a person is on the fence about something and somebody who talks about it is mocked, that only makes the person less likely to try to discuss their own confusion. They'd likely rather avoid being treated poorly. They'd be less likely to understand where they were wrong. They might be more likely to drink the kool-aid later on, when and if surrounded and cut off from opposing views.

    Lol... I think that's the fancy way of saying, "You can attract more flies with honey than with vinegar" ;)

    (But BTW, sincerely enjoying the thoughtful discussion, you guys :) )

    lol, I see your point but I don't actually think the answer is in being nice. As I've said already, I'm not a fan of the saccharine.

    Also, flies prefer vinegar, but that's beside the point. ;)

    And who wants flies anyway?

    You'll regret this just before you're overrun by my army of flies!
  • try2againtry2again Posts: 3,265Member Member Posts: 3,265Member Member
    leiflung wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    leiflung wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    There's an element of risk at play here. One can believe in a flat earth and this causes no harm to anyone, whereas spreading misinformation such as unfounded dangers of vaccines can objectively cause incredible harm. When you intentionally increase risk, then you should expect condescension and mockery. It was earned.

    Do you think anti-vaxxers are intentionally increasing risk? Or do you think they believe they are decreasing risk, despite doing the opposite?

    Also, do you not think that being condescending to a person is likely to cause cognitive dissonance in them which would more likely cause them to double down on their beliefs rather than abandon them?

    To me, it's one thing trying to convince a person they are wrong. That's already hard. But if you mock them as you do it, you're making it even harder. You're making them feel bad and asking them to agree that they *should* feel bad as you ask them to change their minds. That seems to expect way too much of people.

    I wouldn't think it would even be effective for an onlooker. If a person is on the fence about something and somebody who talks about it is mocked, that only makes the person less likely to try to discuss their own confusion. They'd likely rather avoid being treated poorly. They'd be less likely to understand where they were wrong. They might be more likely to drink the kool-aid later on, when and if surrounded and cut off from opposing views.

    Lol... I think that's the fancy way of saying, "You can attract more flies with honey than with vinegar" ;)

    (But BTW, sincerely enjoying the thoughtful discussion, you guys :) )

    lol, I see your point but I don't actually think the answer is in being nice. As I've said already, I'm not a fan of the saccharine.

    Also, flies prefer vinegar, but that's beside the point. ;)

    And who wants flies anyway?

    I know... I always think that! Isn't there a phrase we can use that attracts a more desirable creature? ;)
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